Bernie Sanders' Campaign Reaches Voter Data Deal With Democratic National Committee
Source: Huffington Post
WASHINGTON -- Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-Vt.) presidential campaign will regain access to the Democratic National Committee's national voter file under a deal reached late Friday, hours after Sanders sued the DNC.
The DNC, which suspended Sanders' access to the data after a campaign worker accessed confidential voter information from rival Hillary Clinton's campaign this week, will lift the ban effective on Saturday, according to statements from Sanders and the DNC.
The deal was reached hours after the Sanders campaign accused the DNC in a lawsuit of causing it “substantial financial, reputational and political injury” with the suspension. Friday night's agreement doesn't end the lawsuit, according to a Sanders aide.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sanders-sues-dnc_56748b06e4b06fa6887d883e?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013§ion=politics
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litlbilly
(2,227 posts)
mpcamb
(3,227 posts)Same with this one:
JUST IN: From Sanders campaign: access to voter files will be restored Saturday morning.
As I whipped down the page I couldn't find any.
Just sayin'...
I would be SO happy to dump DWS so it's an honorable campaign and not a coronation.
Duckfan
(1,268 posts)She really ticked off a lot of people--including many in the DNC itself.
PFunk1
(185 posts)And it was starting to hurt Hillary herself whom her camp IMO is behind this. Plus her TV stuff trying to explain her positions didn't help matters any.
Dustlawyer
(10,539 posts)for discovery on both sides (interrogatories, requests for production, and depositions), is evidence that they want to shine a spotlight on this situation, and find out what has been going on from all sides. This means they are determined to get to the bottom of all of this! I don't think the DNC is going to be happy with what comes out of it, even if Hillary's team did not appear to get Sander's information.
Duval
(4,280 posts)
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Hillary is going to be very lucky if she survives this.
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)music to my ears.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I'm dancin' to as well! Lovely melody.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I hope he sues the pants of the DNC and DWS.
Nite Owl
(11,303 posts)He' s not backing down. He's shown he is Presidential material.
valerief
(53,235 posts)
INdemo
(7,024 posts)to Sanders as should Hillary Clinton.
murielm99
(32,972 posts)a person was fired for it, and Hillary's campaign should apologize? On what planet?
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,539 posts)previously of a breach...? I am sure she would have just let it go, right? Of course, she knows all of her Donors and would still know how to reach Blankfein, Jamie Diamond...
jwirr
(39,215 posts)a vender that would not listen when the Sanders campaign informed them of a problem already in October. They asked for proof and the man who was fired was searching for evidence of the problem when it happened again. The vender now says nothing was stolen in any way.
Instead of working to fix the problem the DNC, the vender who has been working IT for Hillary since the 90s, and Hillary's campaign all jumped up yelling about Bernie. A lot of info has come out since this started and the DNC, the vender and Hillary's campaign are not innocent.
yuiyoshida
(45,401 posts)on that, there are already enough hard feelings..its gonna get worse.
Sanders' staffers did access the Clinton campaign's voters' list. They are the ones who should be apologizing to Clinton.
INdemo
(7,024 posts)Democrats can never get ahead or win the arguments because they always come up with some off the wall bullshit.
I find it no different debating (arguing) with Hillary supporters.
Why didn't DWS go to court? Because she knew she would lose because she had nothing,no proof whatsoever to base her accusations.
So she settled.
Simple question which you won't answer: If Hillary Clinton has this nomination in the bag,sewed up,no doubts that she has it won,then why does her campaign or the DNC have to make these false accusations and try and suspend Bernie's Campaign.
I think Hillary will get her ass kicked in tonight's debate but there is little doubt that networks like the Clinton News Network will go to great lengths to claim Hillary won.
Beacool
(30,514 posts)It wasn't her campaign who accessed another candidate's voter's list. As for getting her butt kicked tonight. Please, don't make me laugh.
INdemo
(7,024 posts)I think I am going to title the poem
"Its 2008 all over again"
So stand by I'll be working on that for you.
Beacool
(30,514 posts)
Contrary1
(12,629 posts)I'm thinking a certain someone didn't want to have the truth aired out in court.
murielm99
(32,972 posts)Let's see if any "truth" comes out. Let's see how the Bernistas twist things to suit themselves.
Contrary1
(12,629 posts)
chervilant
(8,267 posts)DWS and the DNC are in breach of contract, so it's really no surprise that they capitulated. As for the Sanders staffer who accessed data from the Clinton campaign: he's been fired.
Everything else should be revealed during discovery, if it gets that far.
If you've been following the events since the highly suspect, middle-of-the-night release of this story, you must have seen the outpouring of support and contributions from Sanders supporters. Support for Sanders' campaign is strengthening and spreading, as more people hear his message. Over two million contributions, averaging $30 each -- this is just the beginning.
DWS should resign. She is the worst chair of the DNC in my lifetime.
murielm99
(32,972 posts)What a snarky question.
Are you familiar with the software? Have you used it? That is a much more pertinent question.
I will follow this story, and not conclude that Saint Bernie his obviously guilty campaign worker are in the clear. I will not automatically conclude that Bernie and his campaign can do no wrong, that Hillary is somehow the cause of all this grief.
Bernie can protest all he wants. We will see what develops.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)And the poster you are responding to lays the blame where it belongs, with DWS. It is you and you alone who drag Hillary's name into the exchange. If I were you, I would instantly cease any verbiage that conflates Hillary with DWS. If DWS is criticized and you say 'stop blaming Hillary' it is like you admitting that DWS works for Hillary and not the Party. So conflating the two is a huge mistake. Please keep making it.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)If you read the lawsuit, you'd discover that the DNC is contractually obligated to provide written notice and a ten day grace before taking any kind of action. So, DWS violated her own contract with the Sanders campaign. I wonder if that's "criminal"?
Thus far, I've yet to see any of Sanders' supporters aver that the staffer who was fired "can do no wrong" or is "in the clear." What I have seen is people wondering why, and by whom, this report was leaked in the wee hours of Thursday night/Friday morning. Further, people have been wondering why, if the firewall was down, other candidates' data bases were not checked, or presumed to remain unscathed. So many questions are about DWS, her partisan stance, and how badly the DNC needs money.
I find it pitiable when individuals who support Hillary 'wax bombastic' when anything happens in the Sanders campaign. Bernie is a candidate who has had virtually no M$M coverage, has not accepted any money from the corporate oligarchs, and has won the hearts of millions of concerned citizens, not to mention the majority of the Millennials. And, this incident has netted him a significant uptick in donations.
Yes, you are right: we will see what develops.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)By the way, how often do you think guilty people sue to go into a courtroom and have the issue of their guilt fully investigated in full view of everybody?
Cal33
(7,018 posts)agreeing to reinstate the former state of affairs? Does this even make sense?
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)After midnight, Sanders and the DNC put out statements that both indicated the impasse had been resolved but that put remarkably different spins on the outcome. Sanders’s campaign said the DNC had “capitulated” and that Sanders would soon regain access to the data. The DNC said what happened was “completely unacceptable” and that it would continue to investigate the circumstances even as Sanders regained access to the valuable information.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-threatens-to-sue-dnc-if-access-to-voter-list-isnt-restored/2015/12/18/fa8d6df8-a5a2-11e5-ad3f-991ce3374e23_story.html
Tom Rinaldo
(23,187 posts)A fair full investigation, not only of this breech but of earlier ones also, is appropriate. But this clearly exposes the DWS partisan over reach. She claimed that the DNC had no other option but to freeze out Sanders from his data until an investigation was complete - to her satisfaction under her timeline. Total BS.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)she will play it off.
Fearless
(18,458 posts)Proserpina
(2,352 posts)If so, all the better. The "pure-blooded", vetted "Democrats" are prima facie, incompetent fools.
Present company excepted (where applicable).
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)1996 Crime bill, they say 'Bernie's bill demanding mass incarceration'. Clinton's bill, Hillary backed it, a huge majority of Democrats and 2/3 of the Black Caucus voted for it, but on DU it is 'Bernie's racist mass incarceration act'.
Senator Gillibrand has spent two years advancing the Family Act, providing family leave to employees like all other decent nations do. Hillary's supporters on DU call that 'Bernie's flat tax to fund his revolution'. He was one of many Democratic co-sponsors. That's it. 'Bernie's flat tax'.
Commodities Futures Reform, every Democrat in the House but two voted for it, Bernie voted for it, Bill Clinton pushed it and signed it. That cohort says 'Bernie backed the banksters'. I think he voted wrong on that one, but so did every Democrat but two. The entire Senate voted for it, Kerry, Biden, but that cohort says 'Bernie did it and he's evil'.
So he's both 'not a Democrat' and constantly blamed for voting too much like a Democrat.
Fearless
(18,458 posts)Proserpina
(2,352 posts)Lizard brains don't actually think...it's more reflexive...hardwired responses, like a machine that was programmed to do a specific action under stimulus. Doesn't matter what stimulus, or why.
In a word, untrainable.
GreydeeThos
(958 posts)Bernie has no chance of winning the general election. The Republicans are amassing a war chest of billions of dollars to smear Democrats, and we are sitting here arguing about access to a web site.
Get real folks, this election is too important to waste time and effort on a candidate who is not going to be the nominee.
murielm99
(32,972 posts)Outside the DU bubble, most people realize that you are correct.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Did you see the response on Twitter, Reddit, the petitions that got signed, the organizations backing Bernie yesterday???? But keep telling yourself the “Bernistas” in DU are an island until themselves. You’re in for a terrible shock.
And your admitting you didn’t read the suit by Sanders does you no credit. It would help you to understand exactly what is going on.
Outside the DU bubble, most people realize you’re incorrect.
a la izquierda
(12,324 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)say Bernie can't win spent 08 saying Obama was a big fake who can't win, a waste of a nomination. When I see those posters chatting away with our BOG superstars, it is like looking at an x-ray of their truth.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Proserpina
(2,352 posts)Yes, there is a way for Bernie to win the general--and that's by winning the nomination. And more and more, it looks like it's going to happen.
Reality is our friend.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)without losing his cause altogether. It would have been fatal for him to play the role of the
doormat.
I also think it's only sensible for him to continue seeing this case through in court, so there
will be no future repetitions of DWS's nonsense. I admire Bernie's judgment and thoroughness.
WIProgressive88
(314 posts)the nominee, and yet they continue to make these sorts of posts that will do nothing but alienate a sizable chunk of voters who Hillary will need should she make it to the general election.
I am a Bernie supporter, but I am also a realist. I've recognized from the beginning that, more than likely, Hillary will be the nominee, and that while I would do what I could to ensure a victory for Sanders, I would proudly vote for her if and when that should be the case. At this point, I will still vote for her should she be the nominee, but this incident and the conduct of many Clinton supporters certainly make the idea of throwing my support behind Clinton in the general much less appetizing, and I have no doubt others are feeling the same.
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)That's my Bernie! That's why I support him.
Maybe he will pry that pestiferous tick DWS out of the DNC at last. The real way to "never waste a crisis" is to make it blow up in the perpetrator's face.
merrily
(45,251 posts)If the Sanders' campaign had admitted wrongdoing, then a court would consider true a claim that the Sanders campaign had been guilty of wrongdoing. Telling the truth about the Sanders' campaign is not the basis for a claim for "reputational injury" in a lawsuit by the Sanders. Making that claim in court would be considered "frivolous." The court could fine both the Sanders campaign and its attorney for raising a frivolous claim in court.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)"Friday night's agreement doesn't end the lawsuit, according to a Sanders aide."
That is absolutely fantastic, for a number of reasons - the most important being that lawsuits allow broad discovery. In this case that means deposing under oath, of Deb and her minions as to their interactions with the vendor and with the Clinton campaign (their failure to take action when notified months ago of the problem, records of access by the Clinton camp to Bernie's data during those months), sweeping requests for production of documents - particularly concerning oversight and maintenance of the system and its software. A very harsh and bright light will be shone upon Deb, and can include her arbitrary and unilateral decisions on the number of debates, the dates and locations thereof, etc.
Bernie stood tough and timely negotiated a settlement to great advantage of the good guys - that's what a good president has the courage and capacity to do.
elias49
(4,259 posts)I think we'll see a side of Sanders that is harder-edged than the affable Sanders we've been seeing. He is righteously pissed off. How will Clinton play it? Hard-assed? (You know...gotta be as rough and tumble as "the boys". Witness Carly on the other side...) Will she be dismissive? I look forward to it.
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)elias49
(4,259 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Personally, I think that the electorate does not particularly care about this story one way or the other (outside of DU and similar boards).
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)DWS is asking me for money and for the use of my own personal reputation to advance the Party but clearly she takes that money and endorsement and uses it to hire inept vendors who are never held to account. She is still defending them while attacking the only person involved who has held anyone accountable. I really despise double standards.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)But in terms of the overall impact on the poll numbers, I don't think it will factor in to the average voter deciding who to vote for.
I think the national numbers could move if something surprising happens in Iowa and New Hampshire. If Sanders takes both, then I think everything changes. If HRC wins them both, then I think that would be the end of the race.
If it's a split (which is what I am predicting) then I think things will get very interesting.
crim son
(27,552 posts)then I considered the history of both candidates and who has consistently acted with integrity over the decades. I am pleased that the DNC has backed off and that Bernie is pursuing the suit.
lovuian
(19,362 posts)Why was it down? and whose responsible for it's failing
The gloves are off
LiberalLovinLug
(14,680 posts)Now I'm not saying this is definitely true (so calm down Hillies)
But WHAT IF
Hillary's camp, aided by Debbie W. had free access to Bernies info by setting up a secret tunnel into the DNC database, and were quietly using that for months. Then a Bernie staffer stumbled onto this open door and alerted the DNC. They tried to at first ignore this hoping it would go away, and then after months of stalling, knew they had to shut it down, and pissed that the Bernie camp had spoiled their fun, decided to pull an old Republican trick of accusing the other side of the crime they had committed. To take the heat off of them and put it on Bernie's camp.
And now the DNC wants to be in charge of an investigation with Debbie W in charge? I can see how that will go.
Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)the vendor was doing a software patch which caused the wall to temporarily go down. Although I don't know how this stuff works it seems to me you would not do a patch while connected to the internet if that were the case.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)Nice Job Bernie!
More of this please!
