500 people involved in upheaval at Deptford Mall

[LiberalEsto]

Source: NJ.com

DEPTFORD (NJ) - "Chaos broke out at the Deptford Center Mall Saturday night after a "large disturbance" involving more than 500 people erupted near the food court.

Multiple law enforcement agencies from both Gloucester and Camden counties were called to the mall, located on Deptford Center Road.

Videos posted on social media show droves of people dispersing near the Sears store on the second level.

One juvenile was arrested in the incident, police said."



Read more: http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2015/12/deptford_center_mall_large_disturbance.html#incart_river_home

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Are people starting to crack up? It seems like there are increasing numbers of violent incidents happening all over the place. Climate change? Stress?

[saltpoint]

1. They'll have to switch the spelling

to 'maul.'

[Wilms]

9. That's how I always have spelled it.

[pnwmom]

25. No assaults. No injuries. No weapons. Sounds like the headline writer

just wanted attention.

[Schema Thing]

2. Not sure there is even a shred of evidence to support your last sentence.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

28. I beg to differ

As many as 2,000 people, mostly juveniles, caused multiple disturbances and fights at the Mall St. Matthews Saturday evening, prompting police from four agencies to respond and forcing the shopping center to close early, police said. WHAS11

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2015/12/26/report-incidents-force-closure-of-st-matthews-mall/77932792/

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (KTHV) - Two off-duty deputies made an arrest Saturday night following a fight that broke out at Park Plaza Mall.

On Dec. 26, at 8 p.m., an off-duty deputy, who was in Dillard's at Park Plaza Mall, heard over his radio another deputy needing assistance. There was reportedly several hundred individuals fighting. The deputy in Dillard's Mall responded and was able to help his fellow deputy to alleviate the situation. Mall security began evacuating most of the shoppers. They also shutdown the mall early due to the fights.

http://www.thv11.com/story/news/2015/12/27/pcso-release-details-behind-saturdays-park-plaza-mall-fight/77945856/

A Nassau County police spokesman tells The Associated Press officers responded to a report of a fight at the shopping mall. There were no reported injuries.

Videos posted on social media sites showed shoppers running through the shopping mall and hiding behind a wall near the food court.

A spokesman for Simon Property Group, which runs the mall, didn't immediately respond to a message seeking comment.

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/local-news/63566033-story

[99th_Monkey]

3. It' not just for Black Friday anymore. This is actually a bit unsettling.

I don't mean to make lite of it.

[LiberalEsto]

4. A few hours ago someone posted about much larger brawl at a Kentucky mall

Kentucky's Mall Shuts Down After Brawls Involving Up to 2,000

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027477766

I saw that, and then read about the mall incident in NJ.

[pnwmom]

26. Except this wasn't a brawl. No assaults, no injuries, no weapons.

Just a big crowd, with maybe some arguing.

[trillion]

40. What is going on? I don't understand?

[Helen Borg]

46. Kids with no prospects +

inability to cope with anything + inexistent attention span + various substances = CHAOS!

[azureblue]

61. and no thought

of the consequences of what they do.

[Helen Borg]

62. When you feel like you have no prospects...

You also feel you have nothing to lose. Consequences only matters for those who believe they have something to lose.

[romanic]

5. Some sources are calling it a "flash mob"

aka a bunch of kids with nothing to do but start shit and cause mayhem. *sighs*

[Ligyron]

21. we need A Flash mob appearing in multiple locations to vote. nt

[FSogol]

53. Only works if you can get a flash mob to show up and register.

[philosslayer]

6. What, really, hope do young people have?

Economic uncertainty, fear of gun violence, climate change, republican politicians continuing to sow fear and hatred...

Young people are doing what young people do... they're acting out.

[LiberalEsto]

7. I agree with you

And they are fed a nonstop diet of violence through media, games, etc.

[romanic]

8. Even without all of that going on

most kids nowadays are coming out of broken homes with shitty parent(s), no rules, no hope for the future really.

[pangaia]

13. Do you have documented evidence of this?

[7962]

35. Of course not. Just excuses for acting like damn fools.

"kids" know right from wrong. I dont care how you're raised, these days with internet, tv, etc, they know right from wrong

[Jake Stern]

10. Went looking for a "it's teh Republicans and society!" post

Lo and behold here it is! Simply cannot be overindulged and over-entitled youth engaging in douchebaggery.

[TeddyR]

12. Yep

Not sure why anyone would go out of their way to excuse this criminal behavior. Perhaps we hold these folks accountable instead?

[Kaleva]

18. A very white male centric view on things

For generations, young blacks faced a lifetime of slavery, Jim Crow laws and lynchings. Young Native Americans faced economic hardship few of us can imagine living on the reservations.

[TeddyR]

24. What does that have to do

With this story?

[Kaleva]

44. I responded to a post and not the OP

Read the post I responded to.

[philosslayer]

30. I have no idea what you're talking about

What does this have to do with young blacks and native Americans? What is your point?

[Kaleva]

45. Young people in the past have had it far worse.

[trillion]

41. I have to agree with you and the context.

We need to end the war on blacks and minorities and the poor to end this "acting out."

[Squinch]

51. Wow! This post went over some heads, didn't it? Of course you are right.

[NobodyHere]

32. That's just making excuses

[jalan48]

11. I guess just buyin more shit isn't good enough anymore.

Maybe that's a good thing.

[forest444]

14. It's probably a combination of all of the above,

plus anti-depressants.

[hedgehog]

49. Is the remark about anti-depressants sarcasm?

[forest444]

56. Of course not, hedgehog.

The media seldom bothers to; but you know, whenever a shooting rampage occurs the public is entitled to disclosure as to the broad outlines of that person's mental health treatment history if any.

Sure enough: in most cases, the assailant was on pharmaceutical anti-depressants - particularly the SSRI kind. Here's a link to a site that compiles media stories of cases linked to their use: http://ssristories.org/

There are other health implications as well; but the fact that out of ten widespread medications with established links to violence, five are anti-depressants, should be food enough for thought.

http://healthland.time.com/2011/01/07/top-ten-legal-drugs-linked-to-violence/

[Octafish]

15. Radiation from Fukushima

Radioactive impact from three meltdowns is worldwide and ongoing.

[trillion]

42. Okay, that's it. I'm going to guess zombies.

[Ex Lurker]

16. There was also one in Kentucky and one in Little Rock

I wonder if they are related. A search of social media hashtags might be instructive.

[PeteSelman]

17. Yeah, climate change is causing idiots to act like idiots.

C'mon. Really?

I'll bet anything that 99.9% of the people involved in this nonsense have no idea what climate change is.

[Initech]

19. Was Bluto there?

[valerief]

20. WTF? First in Kentucky and now in NJ? Sounds like a sci-fi movie. nt

[azurnoir]

23. or an X-File

subliminal put out on Tumbler and Imgur

[BuelahWitch]

34. They were listening to this over and over...

[Initech]

37. Richmond Valentine's revenge!

[justamama83]

22. This is my mall- the one I shop at all the time

My kids are both teenagers and none of their friends- many who work at the mall have said a word about this. There is one article out there- maybe 2 but believe me if there had been a fight with 500 people or any kind of incident it would'be been all over the news- and there is nothing but the crickets chirping. There is one comment from someone on the Deptford police force that an investigation is ongoing and there could be arrests - but I really do not think it was this huge event that they are making it out to be.

[RandySF]

27. The holidays bring out the worst in people.

There was nearly a mass incident in a BK while my son and were there last weekend.

[enid602]

29. millenials at boiling point

Even more evidence of that 'revolution' that Bern's been touting.

[Initech]

38. Advertisers are coming at us left and right and we can't buy anything!

I cringe when I see the luxury car manufacturer's commercials at Christmas time - they show these young couples in these ridiculously expensive homes buying ridiculously expensive cars like Audis and BMWs and Mercedes and so on. If only most of us could live like that!

[Downwinder]

31. If there were five customers in Sears here it

would be a mob.

[Skittles]

33. will this be the norm now?

a bunch of fucking idiots unable to behave themselves in public?

[2naSalit]

60. I hope not. nt

[Renew Deal]

36. A 500 person disturbance and only one is arrested? Those numbers don't add up.

[Nye Bevan]

39. Amazon.com was unaffected by the incident (nt)

[frizzled]

43. It's not politically correct to say who they are or which culture it reflects badly on

Those of us who value truth telling and economic fairness are between a rock and a hard place right now.

[philosslayer]

48. They are teenagers

What is politically incorrect about stating that?

[LanternWaste]

58. I'd cower behind implication too.

I'd cower behind implication too. Maintaining the courage of one's convictions is so difficult. Luckily, we get to blame a non-existent argument whilst proudly wearing the white feather.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

47. Mall Food Court food can cause "upheavals"

Some of that food, upheaval may be the healthiest response.

But 500 people? There must have been a Chipotle at the mall. jk.

[brooklynite]

50. This was apparently a Flash Mob...

100 % Ginuwine ‏@DS7_Era
Cherry hill mall or deptford mall today

Video here:

http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2015/12/uproar_involving_500_people_at_mall_were_juveniles.html

[heaven05]

52. thugs

with nothing more to do, nothing more, nothing less.

[dembotoz]

54. define invovled if a fight breaks out at an nfl game parking lot are all 70,000 in the stadium

considered involved?

[Marrah_G]

55. There have been cases of robbery flashmobs

You can see them on youtube. Young people all decend on a store and just take what they want.

https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+robbery+flash+mob&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

[LanternWaste]

57. Good thing this had nothing to do with BLM, else we'd not rationalize this.

Good thing this had nothing to do with BLM, else we'd not rationalize this.

[LiberalEsto]

59. I'm not trying to "rationalize" anything

I perceive erratic, unusual behavior taking place in several locations, and I am trying to figure out explanations for it. It also seems to me that there is a great deal more gun violence and other kinds of violence around the globe, and am wondering what kinds of factors might be contributing to that.