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MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:19 PM Jan 2016

Saudi Arabia executes dissident Shiite cleric Nimr al-Nimr, 46 others

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Source: CNN


Saudi Arabia said Saturday it had executed 47 people in a single day, including a dissident Shiite cleric, Nimr al-Nimr, who had repeatedly spoken out against the government and the Saudi royal family.

Nimr had been convicted of inciting sectarian strife, sedition and other charges following his 2012 arrest.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/02/middleeast/saudi-arabia-executes-dozens-terror/index.html

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Saudi Arabia executes dissident Shiite cleric Nimr al-Nimr, 46 others (Original Post) MariaThinks Jan 2016 OP
And We call these barbarian bastards ALLIES??!? lastlib Jan 2016 #1
there is something seriously wrong and what a cultural difference MariaThinks Jan 2016 #2
this is seriously fucked up.... dhill926 Jan 2016 #3
...savages. SoapBox Jan 2016 #4
Allies. A satellite state, even. JackRiddler Jan 2016 #23
Our friends, the Saudis. eom saltpoint Jan 2016 #5
yup corkhead Jan 2016 #9
Bush's bestest buddies in the whole universe. 47of74 Jan 2016 #21
Its pretty bi-partisan... former9thward Jan 2016 #22
Shhh, we want to pretend it's only Bushes! JackRiddler Jan 2016 #24
Here's the Common Dreams article... truth2power Jan 2016 #31
At least it wasn't a bunch of insane fundamentalist religious fanatics doing Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #6
I smell the BFEE SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #7
Our main ally in the war on terror and spreading democracy. CJCRANE Jan 2016 #8
I'm starting to really hate these *'es. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #10
You shouldn't. JackRiddler Jan 2016 #25
I have no trouble acccepting other religions but this action is beyond the pale. Paper Roses Jan 2016 #11
i can accept other religions if they accept mine. MariaThinks Jan 2016 #13
Selling us cheap oil buys a lot of latitude. thesquanderer Jan 2016 #12
aye, there's the rub....... lastlib Jan 2016 #18
Their oil is currently irrelevant to "us." JackRiddler Jan 2016 #26
Good point, but the bottom line is still... oil. (n/t) thesquanderer Jan 2016 #27
Not quite. JackRiddler Jan 2016 #29
Seems like they killed many this time flamingdem Jan 2016 #14
i wonder how many women were killed - maybe just for exposing their elbows MariaThinks Jan 2016 #15
At some point you wake up DaveT Jan 2016 #16
"ISIS" is the Saudis JackRiddler Jan 2016 #28
Maria, I feel powerless. saidsimplesimon Jan 2016 #17
I bet NBC Nightly news leads w. this tonite. Smarmie Doofus Jan 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author 47of74 Jan 2016 #20
Iran is going to get even against them. bdwker Jan 2016 #30
Locking... BooScout Jan 2016 #32

lastlib

(28,233 posts)
1. And We call these barbarian bastards ALLIES??!?
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jan 2016

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
2. there is something seriously wrong and what a cultural difference
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jan 2016

any moderate talkers are executed

dhill926

(16,953 posts)
3. this is seriously fucked up....
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jan 2016

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
4. ...savages.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jan 2016
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
23. Allies. A satellite state, even.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jan 2016

US owns and supports Saudi actions since 1944.

They could behead more people than ISIS - they have - and nothing changes. They will be "armed against ISIS," which is to say given replacements for the arms they handed over to jihadis who end up recycled as ISIS. If there was a democratic secular uprising (science fiction, I know), the US would intervene for the crown.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
5. Our friends, the Saudis. eom
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jan 2016

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
9. yup
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:45 PM
Jan 2016
 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
21. Bush's bestest buddies in the whole universe.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jan 2016

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
22. Its pretty bi-partisan...
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 08:51 PM
Jan 2016
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
24. Shhh, we want to pretend it's only Bushes!
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jan 2016

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
31. Here's the Common Dreams article...
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:16 AM
Jan 2016
http://commons.commondreams.org/t/outrage-follows-saudi-arabias-execution-of-nearly-50-prisoners/16952

Well, lookee here...if you scroll down in the comments section, here's another pic of Obama with the king..



Ha hahaha. Just a couple'a dudes, having a good time. But wait...there's nothing. Nothing that should ever cause anyone to disrespect Obama. Nope. Even him consorting with the scum of the earth.

Meanwhile, Assad killed his own people...his own people...his own people...

I am so sick to death of the hypocrisy I could just vomit. Ugh!
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
6. At least it wasn't a bunch of insane fundamentalist religious fanatics doing
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jan 2016

the beheadings.


Oh wait....,

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
7. I smell the BFEE
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:31 PM
Jan 2016

bandar bush

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
8. Our main ally in the war on terror and spreading democracy.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jan 2016

polly7

(20,582 posts)
10. I'm starting to really hate these *'es. nt.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jan 2016
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
25. You shouldn't.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jan 2016

We are in the United States. We should be, not hating, but fighting those here - not Muslims, for the most part - who support these *'es.

Paper Roses

(7,632 posts)
11. I have no trouble acccepting other religions but this action is beyond the pale.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jan 2016

Sick! And these are our friends? This is too much to comprehend.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
13. i can accept other religions if they accept mine.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jan 2016

if the other religion is not tolerant or willing to support my religion, it becomes a one way parasitic streak - much like destructive cults.

thesquanderer

(13,002 posts)
12. Selling us cheap oil buys a lot of latitude.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:01 PM
Jan 2016

Though our own death penalty and shoot-first-ask-questions-later problems don't buy us as much moral high ground as we might like.

lastlib

(28,233 posts)
18. aye, there's the rub.......
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jan 2016

We have GOT to abolish these barbaric practices, or we are little better than the Middle Easterners.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
26. Their oil is currently irrelevant to "us."
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 08:59 PM
Jan 2016

It's sold elsewhere. US reliance on ME oil is far down from the 1970s. Sponsoring the murderous feudal oil kingdoms is a geostrategy for exerting control over those to whom it sells, meaning Europe above all but also the rest of the market including China. In terms of the history of US foreign policy, the Saudi regime occupy the position they do so that Arab nationalists wouldn't.

thesquanderer

(13,002 posts)
27. Good point, but the bottom line is still... oil. (n/t)
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jan 2016
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
29. Not quite.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 09:08 PM
Jan 2016

The bottom line is power.

flamingdem

(40,885 posts)
14. Seems like they killed many this time
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jan 2016

to dilute the impact of the Shia cleric.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
15. i wonder how many women were killed - maybe just for exposing their elbows
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:33 PM
Jan 2016

or being beside a man.

DaveT

(687 posts)
16. At some point you wake up
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:41 PM
Jan 2016

and realize that the moralizing stories you keep hearing from the Blood Bath that would come to Vietnam if we left, through the incubators in Kuwait, to the cutting off of heads by ISIS are all propaganda tools. Some are true, some are stretchers and some are bald faced lies, but their truth or falsity has nothing to do with why you hear them. Certainly not to stop such atrocities from happening, as you can see by all the brutality done by our "friends" like the Saudis.

Could somebody please explain how ISIS or Assad is any worse than the Saudis?

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
28. "ISIS" is the Saudis
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 09:08 PM
Jan 2016

That's reductive, but true enough: "ISIS" is the result of the Saudi regime indoctrinating, dispatching, arming and financing foreign jihadis in Iraq and Syria, who end up recycled into "ISIS," which the US then bombs, or one of the other more "moderate" jihadi militias, which the US sometimes supports openly. And this Saudi practice can't be sold as anything other than also a U.S. policy, since it is done while Saudi enjoys the full backing without criticism from the U.S. U.S. sells the arms with which Saudi Arabia also conducts its simultaneous and official mass-murder in Yemen. U.S. says nothing about Saudi intervention in Bahrain. If we want this to be different, we need to stop othering and hating -- as detestable as this regime and the extremist thought it pushes and many of the people thus produced may be. Change begins at home with things we might change, like ending the longstanding arms and support for this regime, and moving to shut down the ME arms market. Otherwise "we" also own these barbarities.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
17. Maria, I feel powerless.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jan 2016

Yes, Saudi Arabia and Turkey are recognized as our allies. Their actions both sadden and sicken me. Those who claim religious superiority are hypocrites when they replace "Tho shalt not kill" with "an eye for an eye".

I am equally disturbed that the US continues to enforce the death penalty. We are not leading by example. imo

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
19. I bet NBC Nightly news leads w. this tonite.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:57 PM
Jan 2016

And it'll be all over the corporate yakfests tomorrow am.

Not.

Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

 

bdwker

(435 posts)
30. Iran is going to get even against them.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jan 2016

BooScout

(10,410 posts)
32. Locking...
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jan 2016

This article is a duplicate of this one posted earlier: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1301509

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