Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:24 PM
drm604 (16,230 posts)
Militants In Oregon Say They'll Leave If Local Community AsksLast edited Tue Jan 5, 2016, 12:08 AM - Edit history (1)
Source: NPR
Anti-federalist militants continue to hold the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Ore., as law enforcement officials keep their distance. But they say they're willing to leave if local residents ask them to, Oregon Public Broadcasting reports. Read more: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/04/461950205/gunmen-hold-federal-building-in-oregon-as-convicted-ranchers-seek-pardon It sounds like they're looking for a graceful way out of this. Edited to add: I'm starting to wonder about this story. No one else seems to be reporting this, and CNN just showed a video of the local sheriff asking them to leave. So they have their request from the locals and apparently aren't leaving.
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drm604 | Jan 2016 | OP |
Laurian | Jan 2016 | #1 | |
FreeState | Jan 2016 | #17 | |
pinboy3niner | Jan 2016 | #37 | |
LiberalElite | Jan 2016 | #40 | |
AwakeAtLast | Jan 2016 | #52 | |
GGJohn | Jan 2016 | #2 | |
Tess49 | Jan 2016 | #3 | |
drm604 | Jan 2016 | #7 | |
underthematrix | Jan 2016 | #28 | |
sakabatou | Jan 2016 | #13 | |
uppityperson | Jan 2016 | #4 | |
drm604 | Jan 2016 | #10 | |
uppityperson | Jan 2016 | #11 | |
drm604 | Jan 2016 | #15 | |
uppityperson | Jan 2016 | #16 | |
drm604 | Jan 2016 | #18 | |
passiveporcupine | Jan 2016 | #35 | |
IthinkThereforeIAM | Jan 2016 | #38 | |
Elmer S. E. Dump | Jan 2016 | #44 | |
progressoid | Jan 2016 | #23 | |
1StrongBlackMan | Jan 2016 | #45 | |
Feeling the Bern | Jan 2016 | #5 | |
63splitwindow | Jan 2016 | #6 | |
passiveporcupine | Jan 2016 | #36 | |
longship | Jan 2016 | #8 | |
Bernin | Jan 2016 | #9 | |
Midnight Writer | Jan 2016 | #25 | |
JDPriestly | Jan 2016 | #31 | |
mpcamb | Jan 2016 | #50 | |
starroute | Jan 2016 | #34 | |
1StrongBlackMan | Jan 2016 | #46 | |
jalan48 | Jan 2016 | #12 | |
Midnight Writer | Jan 2016 | #26 | |
davidpdx | Jan 2016 | #53 | |
63splitwindow | Jan 2016 | #14 | |
Botany | Jan 2016 | #19 | |
2naSalit | Jan 2016 | #20 | |
tandot | Jan 2016 | #21 | |
trueblue2007 | Jan 2016 | #22 | |
bl968 | Jan 2016 | #24 | |
underthematrix | Jan 2016 | #29 | |
Elmer S. E. Dump | Jan 2016 | #48 | |
msongs | Jan 2016 | #27 | |
lastone | Jan 2016 | #30 | |
1StrongBlackMan | Jan 2016 | #47 | |
Liberty Belle | Jan 2016 | #32 | |
Kennah | Jan 2016 | #33 | |
IronLionZion | Jan 2016 | #39 | |
LiberalElite | Jan 2016 | #41 | |
Vinca | Jan 2016 | #42 | |
tk2kewl | Jan 2016 | #43 | |
jwirr | Jan 2016 | #49 | |
OregonBlue | Jan 2016 | #51 |
Response to drm604 (Original post)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:28 PM
Laurian (2,560 posts)
1. My guess is they've found out how they're being mocked.
Guys like these have very fragile egos and I'm sure they never expected to be ridiculed so mercilessly.
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Response to Laurian (Reply #1)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:53 PM
FreeState (9,741 posts)
17. Especially seeing their Cult slapped them in the press today n/r
Response to Laurian (Reply #1)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 02:41 AM
pinboy3niner (53,339 posts)
37. "Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah. I never should have left Nevada...
People are laughing, making fun of us.
Please send ticket for the next homebound Greyhound bus." With apologies to Allan Sherman. ![]() |
Response to Laurian (Reply #1)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 11:08 PM
AwakeAtLast (13,336 posts)
52. That, unfortunately, makes them dangerous.
Bruised egos, beginning to face reality, armed to the teeth - not a good combination.
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:31 PM
Tess49 (1,462 posts)
3. I thought the community had already told them to get lost. Did they not hear that?
Plus, they are locked in there without socks, beer, and cheetos. Naturally, they are looking for a way out.
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Response to Tess49 (Reply #3)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:33 PM
drm604 (16,230 posts)
7. My guess is that they did hear that,
so they're using it as a way out of the mess they've gotten themselves into.
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Response to drm604 (Reply #7)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:30 AM
underthematrix (5,632 posts)
28. Yep. Totally agree. This is their face saving move
Response to Tess49 (Reply #3)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:43 PM
sakabatou (37,891 posts)
13. Me too
They must be deaf then.
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:32 PM
uppityperson (114,793 posts)
4. "Leave"? You mean surrender and be arrested?
Response to uppityperson (Reply #4)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:36 PM
drm604 (16,230 posts)
10. I don't mean anything.
I'm just linking to the article.
I would hope that they'll be arrested. I suppose it's possible that they got some kind of deal for a slap on the wrist or immunity in exchange for them leaving. |
Response to drm604 (Reply #10)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:40 PM
uppityperson (114,793 posts)
11. Sorry, I didn't mean you, drm604, but talking to the idiots who will leave
I was unclear, didn't mean you, you.
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Response to uppityperson (Reply #11)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:50 PM
drm604 (16,230 posts)
15. I knew that you didn't mean me. I'm not sure why I said that.
I apologize.
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Response to drm604 (Reply #15)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:52 PM
uppityperson (114,793 posts)
16. No worries. I'm dealing with a sick cat and a job interview tomorrow
my mind is going many different directions, but I do have warm socks and snacks! Those bozos in OR are something else. I wonder if they are hoping to just walk away from this? I hope they don't get to.
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Response to uppityperson (Reply #16)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:55 PM
drm604 (16,230 posts)
18. I'm wondering if they've made some kind of deal
where they get a slap on the wrist if they leave peacefully.
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Response to uppityperson (Reply #16)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:59 AM
passiveporcupine (8,175 posts)
35. I"m wondering if they have embarrassed themselves so badly with this fool move
That this will be the end of their efforts to keep this People vs BLM and Government alive.
I think this ballooned out of control and they just got scared and now are embarrassed too. I hope anyway. I'd still love to see them get a little jail time out of this. Teach them a lesson. But I bet it won't happen. |
Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #35)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 03:11 AM
IthinkThereforeIAM (2,847 posts)
38. Haven't you read the social media?
... they need winter socks, more cheezy poofs and winter camo clothes. |
Response to uppityperson (Reply #16)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:09 AM
Elmer S. E. Dump (5,751 posts)
44. Get about 100 people to set up a nice potluck or pig roast right outside the buiding.
With a sign - no felons allowed. Fuckem!
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Response to uppityperson (Reply #4)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 12:27 AM
progressoid (45,862 posts)
23. Exactly. n/t
Response to uppityperson (Reply #4)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:10 AM
1StrongBlackMan (31,849 posts)
45. Exactly ...
you don't get to burgle and just say never mind when the authorities arrive ... no matter how well armed you are.
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:32 PM
Feeling the Bern (3,839 posts)
5. Someone needs to write The Ballad of the Wounded Ego
About a war that only one side arrived to fight and the other side collectively yawned and got on with their lives.
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:33 PM
63splitwindow (2,657 posts)
6. They're praying that request gets there quick too!
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Response to 63splitwindow (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 02:00 AM
passiveporcupine (8,175 posts)
36. Snacks?
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:36 PM
Bernin (311 posts)
9. Guess
the novelty of being holed up in a cabin in single digit temperatures wore off quick.
Not to mention how on earth would they watch the playoffs... |
Response to Bernin (Reply #9)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:12 AM
Midnight Writer (9,894 posts)
25. I'm wondering how long before there is an outbreak of sodomy
Seriously, don't these guys have jobs, families, responsibilities?
They are willing to stay there for years? OK by me. Corral all these nut jobs in one place while the rest of us get on with our lives. |
Response to Bernin (Reply #9)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:36 AM
JDPriestly (57,936 posts)
31. Portland had terrible weather today. Ice, cold, miserable. So maybe God is freezing them out.
Response to JDPriestly (Reply #31)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:46 AM
mpcamb (2,379 posts)
50. Good time to turn off the bldg's heat. Save a few tax payer dollars.
Leave the water on for toilet flushes.
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Response to Bernin (Reply #9)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:53 AM
starroute (12,977 posts)
34. There's satellite TV
I found a reference to it in a page for the sanctuary welcoming volunteers.
Probably no widescreen, though. |
Response to starroute (Reply #34)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:12 AM
1StrongBlackMan (31,849 posts)
46. And no beer, chicken wings, or pizza ... That'll NEVER do. eom.
Response to drm604 (Original post)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:40 PM
jalan48 (11,371 posts)
12. They're looking for a way to save face.
Reality has set in and there has been no big popular uprising to support them. They're basically fucked and they know it. They need to be arrested and jailed.
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Response to jalan48 (Reply #12)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:17 AM
Midnight Writer (9,894 posts)
26. And their gun rights should be revoked
They have pointed guns at law enforcement officers and used their guns to threaten violence.
Please recall that just last year a couple from the Cliven Bundy stand off went on to shoot and kill a couple of police officers as they ate lunch. These people cannot be trusted as responsible gun owners. They have now officially used firearms in the commission of a crime. |
Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #26)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 11:17 PM
davidpdx (22,000 posts)
53. If they are convicted of a felony, then they would not be allowed to have guns
We'll have to wait and see what charges the FBI has come up with.
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:46 PM
63splitwindow (2,657 posts)
14. They deserve less respect than their famous namesake ever got...
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 12:04 AM
Botany (58,307 posts)
19. My guess is the temps in the 20s w/wind and three inches of snow tomorrow might have ..
... something to do w/their leaving.
http://www.wunderground.com/q/zmw:_97720.1.99999 Still arrest their asses and charge 'em with crimes and make 'em pay for the police and stuff. |
Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 12:06 AM
2naSalit (47,496 posts)
20. LOLOLOL!!!
Surprised the goat squad hasn't arrived yet! So in honor of the goat squad...
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 12:10 AM
tandot (6,671 posts)
21. cold feet?
Nobody mailed them socks yet?
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 12:17 AM
trueblue2007 (13,188 posts)
22. THE LOCAL COMMUNITY ALREADY SAID ...... WE HATE YOUR GUTS. Go away.
Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 12:38 AM
bl968 (360 posts)
24. Not so fast..
The only place they should be allowed to go after they leave is to their arraignment.
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Response to bl968 (Reply #24)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:32 AM
underthematrix (5,632 posts)
29. yep. but i would do 3am raids on them in their homes.
Response to underthematrix (Reply #29)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:16 AM
Elmer S. E. Dump (5,751 posts)
48. Then you'll have dead police officers. Make them put down there weapons as they leave the bldg
and then escort them (in shackles) into the waiting paddy-wagon. Confiscate their guns - they won't need them where they're going.
Then when they get out of jail - they are convicted felons and can't own a firearm. That would make me so happy + I'd probably split a gut laughing! ![]() |
Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:19 AM
msongs (58,949 posts)
27. odd how OWS people were beaten and dragged away by cops yet these guys? zzzz nt
Response to msongs (Reply #27)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:36 AM
lastone (588 posts)
30. Yeah, good point
The double standards in the good ole us of a can be disgusting.
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Response to msongs (Reply #27)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:15 AM
1StrongBlackMan (31,849 posts)
47. OWS didn't have gunz. eom.
Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:49 AM
Liberty Belle (8,836 posts)
32. How long til they turn on each other? Anybody see the Hateful 8 yet?
Movie about a bunch of evil people holed up in a Wyoming cabin in winter who turn on each other out of greed. Very gratuitously violent.
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:51 AM
Kennah (8,522 posts)
33. Just wondering what day their subsidy checks arrive n/t
Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 06:26 AM
IronLionZion (31,991 posts)
39. I think all wingnuts should hole themselves up in snowy mountain cabins
I can't be the only one enjoying this.
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 06:29 AM
LiberalElite (14,691 posts)
41. They moved themselves in there without an invitation
they can just move themselves out. At night if necessary so no one sees they're embarrassed. Go the back roads and avoid the cameras. DON"T GO BIG GO QUIETLY.
Edit: Snark notwithstanding, they should not be allowed to get away with this. |
Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:36 AM
Vinca (45,486 posts)
42. It must be getting cold and uncomfortable.
A "patriot" can only take so much.
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 08:00 AM
tk2kewl (18,133 posts)
43. put down your guns, surrender and go to jail
Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:33 AM
jwirr (39,215 posts)
49. Well, well. They know they made a big mistake and now they
want the local community to help them leave without losing face.
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Response to drm604 (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 11:19 AM
OregonBlue (6,641 posts)
51. The locals are pissed. Even these idiots must be able to figure out that Oregon is not
Idaho.
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