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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
Tue May 29, 2012, 01:01 PM May 2012

U.S. Plans To Arm Italy's Drones

Source: Wall Street Journal

Updated May 29, 2012, 8:13 a.m. ET
By ADAM ENTOUS

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration plans to arm Italy's fleet of Reaper drone aircraft, a move that could open the door for sales of advanced hunter-killer drone technology to other allies, according to lawmakers and others familiar with the matter. The sale would make Italy the first foreign country besides Britain to fly U.S. drones armed with missiles and laser-guided bombs. U.S. officials said Italy intends initially to deploy the armed drones in Afghanistan.

Lawmakers who question the planned deal say the decision to "weaponize" Italy's unarmed surveillance drones could make it harder for the U.S. to deny similar capabilities to other North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies, and set back efforts to urge sales limitations on other nations that make sophisticated drones such as Israel.

Advocates say such sales would enable trusted allies to conduct military missions on their own as well as help open markets for U.S. drone manufacturers.

The administration sent a confidential "pre-notification" to congressional panels in April detailing its plan to sell kits to Italy to arm up to six Reaper drones, which are larger, more-powerful versions of Predators.

Read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303395604577432323658176792.html

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U.S. Plans To Arm Italy's Drones (Original Post) DeSwiss May 2012 OP
So the new definition of "change," then is "business as usual?" villager May 2012 #1
And so it continues gratuitous May 2012 #2
What military missions will Italy be conducting on its own? pscot May 2012 #3
Maybe they're anticipating they'll need them...... DeSwiss May 2012 #6
Oh crap. emilyg May 2012 #4
"as well as" my ass Enrique May 2012 #5
I'm sorry, I just don't give a shit about "opening markets for US drone manufacturers." Comrade Grumpy May 2012 #7
Well, in Italy's case...... DeSwiss May 2012 #8
True and we do have USArmy Base (AFRICOM) that is expanding. KoKo May 2012 #9
Never happen pscot May 2012 #19
K&R mollerjay May 2012 #10
Nobel Peace Prize, my ass. nt woo me with science May 2012 #11
Those were my first words upon reading this as well. :-/ - n/t DeSwiss May 2012 #12
DeSwiss, freshwest May 2012 #13
"War is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength" n/t IamK May 2012 #14
Damn felix_numinous May 2012 #15
Fox news will run this: DocMac May 2012 #16
The only way to win the war on terror, is to RC May 2012 #17
And the reason for that ... Nihil May 2012 #20
will congress go along with Obama's wish to arm Italian Reapers? may3rd May 2012 #18
They will - they represent no threat to us. nt hack89 May 2012 #21

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. And so it continues
Tue May 29, 2012, 01:08 PM
May 2012

I like how the Wall Street Journal put "weaponize" in quotes. What else would you call it? Nice to see that we've got a new and improved model over the Predator drone - the Reaper drone! Be the first on your block to have one. Trusted allies only. For now. And please to be forgetting that at various times over the last 30 years our "trusted allies" have included the Saddam regime in Iraq and the Qaddafi regime in Libya.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
3. What military missions will Italy be conducting on its own?
Tue May 29, 2012, 01:09 PM
May 2012

Are they likely to attack the Vatican or San Moreno? Does Italy even have an independent foreign policy?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
6. Maybe they're anticipating they'll need them......
Tue May 29, 2012, 01:15 PM
May 2012

...to fight off the populace when the next rating's downgrade of their sovereign debt takes place.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
5. "as well as" my ass
Tue May 29, 2012, 01:11 PM
May 2012

Advocates say such sales would enable trusted allies to conduct military missions on their own as well as help open markets for U.S. drone manufacturers.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
7. I'm sorry, I just don't give a shit about "opening markets for US drone manufacturers."
Tue May 29, 2012, 01:24 PM
May 2012

But I am kind of excited: Where can I get my own drone weaponization kit?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
8. Well, in Italy's case......
Tue May 29, 2012, 01:33 PM
May 2012

...they have gold, the Mafia and the Pope. And everyone knows that Great Britain and the US are joined at the hip.

So what are you offering in exchange? Do you have any oil? Natural gas? Rare earth?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
9. True and we do have USArmy Base (AFRICOM) that is expanding.
Tue May 29, 2012, 01:47 PM
May 2012

Not only the gold, the Mafia and the Pope...but, a little incursion into Africa? Done clandestinely, of course.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
19. Never happen
Tue May 29, 2012, 08:03 PM
May 2012

Our masters wouldn't feel safe if they knew we could reach them inside their gated communities.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
17. The only way to win the war on terror, is to
Tue May 29, 2012, 04:35 PM
May 2012

depopulate all the other countries.

The United states has a solid record of selling arms and ammunition to a country and then some years later declare them to be an enemy and either topple their legally elected government or just go to war with them. The exception is Great Britain.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
20. And the reason for that ...
Wed May 30, 2012, 08:26 AM
May 2012

> The United states has a solid record of selling arms and ammunition to a country
> and then some years later declare them to be an enemy and either topple their
> legally elected government or just go to war with them. The exception is Great Britain.

... is that the UK has been a satrap of the US for practically all of the time post-WWII.

No need to topple something that you've picked anyway.

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