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Neue Regel

(221 posts)
Tue May 29, 2012, 06:03 PM May 2012

Christine Lagarde, scourge of tax evaders, pays no tax

Source: Guardian UK

Christine Lagarde, the IMF boss who caused international outrage after she suggested in an interview with the Guardian on Friday that beleaguered Greeks might do well to pay their taxes, pays no taxes, it has emerged.

As an official of an international institution, her salary of $467,940 (£298,675) a year plus $83,760 additional allowance a year is not subject to any taxes.

The same applies to nearly all United Nations employees – article 34 of the Vienna convention on diplomatic relations of 1961, which has been signed by 187 states, declares: "A diplomatic agent shall be exempt from all dues and taxes, personal or real, national, regional or municipal."

Other benefits include rent subsidies, dependency allowances for spouses and children, education grants for school-age children and travel and shipping expenses, as well as subsidised medical insurance.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/may/29/christine-lagarde-pays-no-tax



Taxes for thee, but not for me. How typical of the ruling class.
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Christine Lagarde, scourge of tax evaders, pays no tax (Original Post) Neue Regel May 2012 OP
This is NOT news, elleng May 2012 #1
How is it not news? Neue Regel May 2012 #2
Its part of her contract, nothing NEW about it, elleng May 2012 #4
Many are not comfortable with the way the IMF and World Bank do business abelenkpe May 2012 #7
who wrote her contract? the rich elite roguevalley May 2012 #21
Not only am I uncomfortable with it..... DeSwiss May 2012 #25
One rule for the rich, another for the poor. nt SunSeeker May 2012 #3
No, ALL IMF employees. elleng May 2012 #5
Yes, and they are rich compared to most people on this planet. SunSeeker May 2012 #6
By that standard, you would complain about U.S. Federal Government employees, elleng May 2012 #7
you are very defensive Skittles May 2012 #10
FACTS ARE IMPORTANT. elleng May 2012 #16
Diplomats pay taxes to their own country Sanity Claws May 2012 #23
Americans are almost the only people in the world taxed on the basis of citizenship. Spider Jerusalem May 2012 #30
OOH OOH OOH!!! Skittles May 2012 #33
Nope. All U.S. government employees pay income taxes. SunSeeker May 2012 #11
us federal employees pay taxes. She doesn't roguevalley May 2012 #19
Federal government employees are exempt from paying taxes? brentspeak May 2012 #28
NO, we pay taxes, elleng May 2012 #29
And this supports your defense of Christine "Bankster Loan Shark Spokesperson" Lagarde, how? brentspeak May 2012 #31
I responded to #6 above. elleng May 2012 #32
this is about lagarde and her dumbass commentary frylock May 2012 #9
Know of any poverty-stricken IMF employees? brentspeak May 2012 #27
Typical jackassery from the world wealthy/elite, and before I'm jumped on... Comrade_McKenzie May 2012 #12
And...so? Diplomats pay no tax. This is by agreed international convention. Spider Jerusalem May 2012 #13
Thanks SO MUCH, Spider! elleng May 2012 #15
Hypocricy not so much, it seems. Occulus May 2012 #17
Still don't get it, do you??? elleng May 2012 #18
wow. In greece they are abandoning four and roguevalley May 2012 #22
name a diplomat that isn't rich. Just because roguevalley May 2012 #20
How many United Nations employees are there? may3rd May 2012 #14
Of course..... DeSwiss May 2012 #24
Ofc they dont pay taxes Dokkie May 2012 #26
Do as I say... rayofreason May 2012 #34
Why not blame all UN officials Jeneral2885 May 2012 #35
She not evading anything dipsydoodle May 2012 #36
Nothing in the OP says she is evading taxes. Prometheus Bound May 2012 #37
aside from the subject line dipsydoodle May 2012 #38
"Pays no tax" is not the same as "evades taxes". Prometheus Bound May 2012 #39

elleng

(130,768 posts)
1. This is NOT news,
Tue May 29, 2012, 06:07 PM
May 2012

and is NOT isolated to 'the ruling class,' but to all who work at IMF (and probably World Bank,) which includes many mid-and low-level employees, many here in the DC area.

 

Neue Regel

(221 posts)
2. How is it not news?
Tue May 29, 2012, 06:10 PM
May 2012

Someone making $500,000 a year berated the people of Greece for not paying enough in taxes, all while not paying a penny in taxes herself. You may not consider it newsworthy, but others may disagree.

elleng

(130,768 posts)
4. Its part of her contract, nothing NEW about it,
Tue May 29, 2012, 06:13 PM
May 2012

and she properly stated that Greek people should pay and not avoid taxes they owe.

Sorry if you're not comfortable with the way IMF, World Bank and United Nations do business.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
7. Many are not comfortable with the way the IMF and World Bank do business
Tue May 29, 2012, 06:23 PM
May 2012

But that's another story. Don't apologize for LaGarde. She's still is a hypocritical pompous jerk championing starving workers and retirees while propping up banks.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
21. who wrote her contract? the rich elite
Tue May 29, 2012, 10:55 PM
May 2012

of course we are uncomfortable with these bastards. they are bleeding a country to death and people are dying even as they drive by in their limos.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
25. Not only am I uncomfortable with it.....
Tue May 29, 2012, 11:10 PM
May 2012

...but it reeks of hypocrisy.

As long a we sit back a settle for this crap being dealt to us, then they'll keep dealing it to us.

And in that case, we end up getting what was asked for.............

SunSeeker

(51,523 posts)
6. Yes, and they are rich compared to most people on this planet.
Tue May 29, 2012, 06:20 PM
May 2012

They are certainly rich compared to the average Greek, at whom they are wagging their collective finger.

elleng

(130,768 posts)
16. FACTS ARE IMPORTANT.
Tue May 29, 2012, 09:45 PM
May 2012

As Spider Jerusalem said below, at #13, Diplomats pay no tax by agreed international convention.

The number of accredited diplomats is very small. It is one thing for accredited diplomats who are not resident in their country of citizenship to pay no tax; it is quite another thing for tax evasion and avoidance to be such a widespread and endemic problem in an entire country that it's estimated at as much as €13 billion annually. The Greek finance minister estimated the shortfall in tax revenues due to evasion as being roughly equivalent to the size of the budget deficit. . .

Sanity Claws

(21,841 posts)
23. Diplomats pay taxes to their own country
Tue May 29, 2012, 11:03 PM
May 2012

They're not subject to taxation by the state where they are stationed. They are definitely subject to taxation by their own state.

Isn't this how Tim Geitner got into trouble back in2008? he had failed to pay US tax on his IMF earnings?

So is this woman paying taxes to France? Or not paying taxes to any state at all?
If the latter, it stinks and it is hypocritical for her to lecture Greeks about taxes.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
30. Americans are almost the only people in the world taxed on the basis of citizenship.
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:10 AM
May 2012

A French or British citizen who is resident for tax purposes in another country (meaning that they spend less than 90 days per year in their country of citizenship) is not taxed in France or Britain.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
19. us federal employees pay taxes. She doesn't
Tue May 29, 2012, 10:52 PM
May 2012

she's a fucker, they aren't.

try using corporations as your examples. I recommend the Waltons.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
28. Federal government employees are exempt from paying taxes?
Tue May 29, 2012, 11:54 PM
May 2012

You sure you don't want to quit while you're (well) behind?

 

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
12. Typical jackassery from the world wealthy/elite, and before I'm jumped on...
Tue May 29, 2012, 08:13 PM
May 2012

I don't give two bowel movements about the den of vultures over at the IMF.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
13. And...so? Diplomats pay no tax. This is by agreed international convention.
Tue May 29, 2012, 08:23 PM
May 2012

The number of accredited diplomats is very small. It is one thing for accredited diplomats who are not resident in their country of citizenship to pay no tax; it is quite another thing for tax evasion and avoidance to be such a widespread and endemic problem in an entire country that it's estimated at as much as €13 billion annually. The Greek finance minister estimated the shortfall in tax revenues due to evasion as being roughly equivalent to the size of the budget deficit. See here: http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2011/07/11/110711ta_talk_surowiecki

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
17. Hypocricy not so much, it seems.
Tue May 29, 2012, 10:06 PM
May 2012

You're ignoring a different fact: an untaxed person telling people to pay their taxes is the very tincture of hypocrisy. That this is true for all IMF employees does not alter that.

elleng

(130,768 posts)
18. Still don't get it, do you???
Tue May 29, 2012, 10:15 PM
May 2012

Hypocricy is a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
22. wow. In greece they are abandoning four and
Tue May 29, 2012, 10:58 PM
May 2012

five year old children in the streets with notes saying I can't keep her/him. Remember that when you wrap your love around this leech.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
20. name a diplomat that isn't rich. Just because
Tue May 29, 2012, 10:54 PM
May 2012

someone signed a treaty doesn't make it moral or just. honestly, there are laws that allow corporations and shyster preachers to skip taxes too. Is that a good thing?

 

may3rd

(593 posts)
14. How many United Nations employees are there?
Tue May 29, 2012, 08:25 PM
May 2012

...are they hiring ?


""..The same applies to nearly all United Nations employees ...A diplomatic agent shall be exempt from all dues and taxes, personal or real, national, regional or municipal""


I know Khadaffy's people in New York were the kings of parking violations.
Just another perk I guess

 

Dokkie

(1,688 posts)
26. Ofc they dont pay taxes
Tue May 29, 2012, 11:13 PM
May 2012

Reminds me of how Warren Buffett gave away all his money to Bill and Melinda Gates foundation so when he dies, the US gets nothing from estate taxes. But they sure will fight and use evasive tactic to limit their tax recipes as much as possible while lecturing us to pay more taxes. I say we in the spirit of the Buffet rule tax 35% on any deceased millionaire regardless of commitment to any charity or causes

Jeneral2885

(1,354 posts)
35. Why not blame all UN officials
Wed May 30, 2012, 05:26 AM
May 2012

The report clearly said all nations signed up to agree that UN employees do not pay tax. So what's the big deal? And Tax-evasion is a key issue in Greece and elsewhere too.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
36. She not evading anything
Wed May 30, 2012, 05:48 AM
May 2012

Her position is not subject to tax.

A simple search would have confirmed that vor you.

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