Woman shot in carjacking dies, police scour West Seattle for suspect

[Tripper11]

Source: King5 TV

copy has not been updated, just the headline

Seattle police say a woman was shot during a possible carjacking in downtown Seattle in the area of 8th and Seneca streets.

No details have been released about the condition of the woman.

The suspect is described as a white male, about 35-years old, blonde haired with a crew cut. He was driving a black Mercedes SUV with Washington license 348-VWV. Police say the suspect is armed and dangerous.

If you see the suspect or the car, you are urged to call 911 immediately.

More to follow.


So that makes 9 dead in a week in Seattle alone because of gun violence.. 9...

And just for added measure...

2 Dead in Puyallup 2 days ago, and 2 dead in Shelton...just this week

Puyallup Shootings:
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/05/28/2160521/2-bodies-found-in-south-hill-home.html

Shelton Shootings:
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/05/29/2161027/2-found-dead-in-shelton-police.html

And for a kicker(sic)
Renton Teen Arrested in Oklahoma for killing his 17yr old girlfriend in Renton Wa earlier this week as well
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/05/29/2161026/suspect-in-teens-death-arrested.html

Read more: http://www.king5.com/news/cities/seattle/Shooting-in-downtown-Seattle-prompts-search-for-suspect-155767335.html

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WTF?

[pnwmom]

1. Also, I heard on the news that there had been 60 gunshots in Seattle over the long weekend.

[slackmaster]

2. I don't understand the mentality of risking one's life to acquire a car

[notadmblnd]

8. Nor to retain one.

[apocalypsehow]

3. The temptation here is going to be to blame the real victim of these stories - the innocent gun.

We must resist the urge to say anything bad about the poor, misunderstood gun. In fact, we need more guns in as many hands as possible from sea-to-shining sea, and perhaps then when someone starts shooting everyone can whip out their heaters and start blazing away in response! We'll live in a much safer country, then! Yes we will: all those bullets flying around at the drop of a hat are just what a civilized, safe society looks like! Didn't yah know?

[Defectata]

4. a facebook friend is nearby the shooting sight

She posted a pic from her window of a cop with an assault rifle drawn patroling the neighborhood.

[slackmaster]

5. Great. Just what the situation needs. MORE GUNS!

[apocalypsehow]

6. Heh-heh. I see what you did there.

[Atypical Liberal]

7. The good news is violent crime is declining and is at decades-long lows.

[EFerrari]

9. The bad news is that US gun violence is 11X that of other western democracies.

[Atypical Liberal]

11. But we enjoy a very important right that they do not.

As Benjamin Franklin said, "Those who would forsake essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Yes, as a result of the freedom to bear arms we have a lot of people who abuse that right compared to places that do not protect that right. I'm OK with that.

[EFerrari]

13. "The grave's a fine and private place but none, I think, do there embrace"

-- not even their guns.

[Atypical Liberal]

28. Every man dies. Not every man really lives.

[DCBob]

10. Think how much lower it could be..

if we didnt have hundreds of millions of guns floating around.

[Atypical Liberal]

12. Yes, you can trade liberty for safety...

But I'm not willing to do so.

As Benjamin Franklin said, "Those who would forsake essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

[DCBob]

15. More effective and restricitive gun control does not equate to lost liberty.

good grief.

[hack89]

16. What do you consider as appropriate "more effective and restricitive" gun laws? nt

[Atypical Liberal]

17. I cannot believe any rational person would make such a statement.

More effective and restricitive gun control does not equate to lost liberty.

good grief.

When the government tells you what you can or cannot do, you have lost liberty.

If you are advocating increased government control over the kinds of firearms I can own and the conditions under which I can own them and use them, you are decreasing my liberty.

[DCBob]

19. So any controls/regulations on dangerous/hazardous items would be "lost liberty"??

again, good grief.

[Atypical Liberal]

23. It's incrementalism.

Yes, any transfer of power from the individual to the state is a lost liberty.

You haven't commented on what controls or regulations you have in mind so I can't comment as to the severity of the loss.

[DCBob]

25. The old slippery slope argument.

no regulation would ever be acceptable if it had to pass the slippery slope test.

[former9thward]

26. The old "no controls" argument.

We have 20,000 local,,state and federal gun laws in this country. Exactly what regulation do you propose that would have stopped this killing spree?

[Atypical Liberal]

27. So what regulations do you propose?

And at what point would you consider no further regulations necessary?

[suffragette]

14. Not the case here

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Suspected-gunman-in-shooting-turns-gun-on-self--155838715.html
Wednesday's shootings were the latest incidents in a string of violence that has plagued the Seattle and led some city leaders to openly question whether police are doing enough.

Twenty people have been killed in Seattle so far this year with only seven arrests made, not counting two cases that were cleared.

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Last year, the city saw 20 homicide cases. In 2010, there were 19 cases.

[hack89]

18. Suspect's family: 'We could see this coming'

Ian L. Stawicki was drawn there, too. But his loud, bizarre behavior sometimes got him tossed out.

On Wednesday morning, minutes before 11 a.m., Stawicki returned. And he had a gun.

But over the past five or so years, Ian Stawicki severely changed. "Angry. He was really angry toward everything," Andrew Stawicki said. Despite his problems, Ian Stawicki would not talk about his mental illness, his anger or other troubles, his brother said.

Andrew Stawicki said their family long hoped Ian would go to mental-health treatment or take medication to keep his moods in balance.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2018316552_roosevelt31m.html

How many times have we heard this. If you think your family member is mentally ill and capable of violence you have to do something.

[countryjake]

20. That's a mighty big "If" you've got there...

and I would have to ask you, how do you know that Stawicki's family did not "do something"?

All I'd like to learn about this awful tragedy is how, exactly, did this fellow get his hands on those weapons. Where did those two guns come from? That, more than anything else, is at the root of this massacre.

The gun violence that our state has experienced so far this year is absolutely devastating, from babies finding pistols in glove boxes, to the ridiculous melee at the Folk Life Festival which ended in shots fired. The sudden rise of violent GUN crime here needs to be addressed immediately and the Cafe Racer shooter, as a last straw, gives all Washingtonians very good reasons to re-examine our own gun-control laws.

[hack89]

21. Considering many of the shootings have been gang related

just what laws do you intend to pass that will be obeyed by criminals?

Why not focus on the people, not the instruments?

[countryjake]

22. Simply because it is the access to those "instruments"...

that the people have, that is the real problem; those are the laws that need to be tightened. I've been to gun shows here and seen just how easily anyone at all can purchase a bag full of guns and walk away with a personal arsenal to do with what they please.

I do not wish to turn this thread into a spread sheet for some sovereign citizen treatise or a libertarian pissing contest, so that's all that I've got to say on the subject here. But washington had its eyes opened wide yesterday and that has nothing whatsoever to do with gangs.

I grieve for my state today.

[hack89]

24. No - the problem is violent criminals

Seattle has a criminal problem. Lets fix the real problems and not chip away at civil liberties - they are endangered enough as it is.