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Bozita

(26,955 posts)
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:52 AM May 2012

State probes McCotter petition - Such 'overt massive potential fraud is ... very rare,' ex-AG says

Source: Detroit News

May 31, 2012 at 1:00 am
State probes McCotter petition
Such 'overt massive potential fraud is ... very rare,' ex-AG says
By Marisa Schultz
The Detroit News


A criminal probe into doctored petitions for U.S. Rep. Thad McCotter may be uncharted territory as officials say they've never encountered such widespread signature problems.

About 87 percent of McCotter's signatures to get on the primary ballot were tossed because of duplicated copies and apparent copying and pasting of past signatures on his nominating petitions which the state's election chief said Tuesday was "frankly unheard of."

"No one has heard of anything so over the top before," echoed former Republican Attorney General Mike Cox. He added: "To have really overt massive potential fraud is really very unusual."

Secretary of State Ruth Johnson's office had turned over preliminary findings to Attorney General Bill Schuette's office, which won't comment. But Cox said investigators have tools working in their favor — a stack of paper evidence, names and signatures of circulators and the power of an investigative subpoena to compel circulators to talk.

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Johnson has made election fraud her priority. As Oakland County Clerk she helped expose the fake tea party scheme in the 2010 elections, where two former county Democratic Party officials where charged with creating bogus candidates on the ballot to confuse voters. Jason Bauer was sentenced in Oakland Circuit Court in January to 30 days in jail, one year's probation and more than $2,500 in fines and costs after pleading no contest to five counts of fraud. Michael McGuinness was sentenced to one year's probation for his role.


Read more: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120531/POLITICS01/205310393#ixzz1wQYIYOUH



Attorney General Bill Schuette is another of the Teabaggers who rode the wave in 2010.

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Nostradammit

(2,921 posts)
1. The penalty for election fraud in a democracy must be very severe
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:58 AM
May 2012

I'm sorry but one year's probation for fucking with an election is inexcusable. Give them ten years in the slammer and see who commits election fraud in the future.

That the Democratic Party has not made clean elections a major priority is telling and disturbing. Those who make peaceful revolution impossible... yadda yadda...

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
2. This is either egregious fraud or he used incompetent paid signature gatherers
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:58 AM
May 2012

I have seen some of these folks who are paid to gather signatures for referenda or for candidates, and lets just say that they didn't strike me as looking like the pick of the litter.

Nostradammit

(2,921 posts)
6. You don't think he knew what was going on?
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:07 AM
May 2012

Only 2,000 signatures needed and he didn't even do a spot check to see that they were legit?

Sorry, the buck stops with him.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
3. "To have really overt massive potential fraud is really very unusual."
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:25 AM
May 2012

Not for Repukes, it's typical.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
10. It's not only typical, their party can't stay alive without massive fraud. And they know it, but
Thu May 31, 2012, 09:22 AM
May 2012

won't admit it -- especially not to themselves.

chollybocker

(3,687 posts)
5. "To have really overt massive potential fraud is really very unusual."
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:35 AM
May 2012

He must have some stats on the frequency of this type of fraud, then. Exactly how unusual is this?

Very unusual? Really very unusual? Potentially really very unusual? Overtly potentially massive? Really overtly massive? Really massively overt? Potentially massively unusual? Really unusually potentially massive? Typical of fraudulently massive overtness?

Republicans.

kemah

(276 posts)
8. What happened? Some one in charge realized that they did not have the adequate signatures.
Thu May 31, 2012, 08:34 AM
May 2012

With an approaching deadline, someone just copied and paste the names, hoping no one would challenge the paperwork, but just rubber stamp the process.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. Oh! Well, if it's rare, then no sense in doing anything about it
Thu May 31, 2012, 09:09 AM
May 2012

They'll use more sophisticated techniques next time. No biggie.

Hey, didja see James O'Keefe has another spurious video about "voter fraud" out? Something Very Serious Must Be Done . . . about non-existent cheating voters.

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