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kpete

(71,979 posts)
Thu May 31, 2012, 10:52 AM May 2012

EXCLUSIVE: Palm Beach Elections Supervisor Rejects Florida’s Voter Purge List -Says 'Not Credible'

Source: Think Progress

EXCLUSIVE: Palm Beach Elections Supervisor Rejects Florida’s Voter Purge List, Says Effort Is ‘Not Credible’
By Josh Israel posted from ThinkProgress Justice on May 31, 2012 at 10:15 am

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Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections Susan Bucher, a former Democratic state representative, told ThinkProgress in an interview that while the state of Florida sent her county 115 names of voters it considered “sure matches” with a list of non-citizens, her office determined the list’s documentation to be “not credible” and has not sent out letters asking for verification of citizens to any of those voters.
Bucher said:



We need to make sure we have reliable and credible information, by a preponderance of evidence. We could prove that the information was not credible before sending letters and even the Division of Elections has admitted substantial flaws. I did not feel we had credible information and told them I wouldn’t send (any letters) until they could give me a better list.

This thing is not working out so well, we know the information (on which the state relied to flag these names) is very old. They (listed the voter's) last transaction date with (the Florida Department of) Highway Safety — in many cases, (the was 2000, 2002). By now they probably have become citizens – I questioned immediately.




Bucher says that given the documented inaccuracies around the state, the purge effort should be stopped. “We just want to have accurate data—why disturb voters and ask for extraordinary information? What if they get a letter and they’re on vacation, think it’s just mail, ignore it? We hope the state cleans it up very quickly.”


Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/05/31/492632/exclusive-palm-beach-elections-supervisor-rejects-floridas-voter-purge-list-says-effort-is-not-credible/

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EXCLUSIVE: Palm Beach Elections Supervisor Rejects Florida’s Voter Purge List -Says 'Not Credible' (Original Post) kpete May 2012 OP
Encouraging. MinneapolisMatt May 2012 #1
Your move, DOJ. rocktivity May 2012 #2
Brava! JustAnotherGen May 2012 #3
Wow!! Thanks. lamp_shade May 2012 #4
K and R nt. thanks for posting Stuart G May 2012 #5
Mutiny! C'mon Florida! MUTINY!!! nt daaron May 2012 #6
People need to start suing cindyperry2010 May 2012 #7
Glad, and thankfully not surprised. Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #8
One county out of many, but a start. L. Coyote May 2012 #9
I Believe The Scrub DallasNE May 2012 #17
Hoooo-bloody-rah! malthaussen May 2012 #10
I would assume that she is also the one who would take the names off the list. n/t RDANGELO May 2012 #11
Only one county out of HOW many?? kestrel91316 May 2012 #12
Good now maybe others will have the courage to follow suit. jwirr May 2012 #13
Yes! K and R goclark May 2012 #14
K&R flamingdem May 2012 #15
Wrong Solution To Wrong Problem Using The Wrong Methodology DallasNE May 2012 #16
"we know" translated DonCoquixote May 2012 #21
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2012 #18
Where the hell is Eric Holder on this? BattyDem May 2012 #19
I wrote to the white house and also signed a petition for Eric Holder crunch60 May 2012 #26
Repeat this in every county DonCoquixote May 2012 #20
Sandford, where the Trayvon Martin shooting happened is in Seminole County, not Orange. lovelyrita May 2012 #27
OK, I stand corrected, but DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #29
The tricks don't stop coming! lovelyrita Jun 2012 #30
More like this--on to the other swing states librechik May 2012 #22
Ms. Bucher is one hell of a gutsy lady. Vidar May 2012 #23
This is great news.. virgdem May 2012 #24
It looks like Susan Bucher got the ball rolling! K&R DianaForRussFeingold May 2012 #25
Sue Bucher is Da Bomb SoFlaJet May 2012 #28

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,159 posts)
8. Glad, and thankfully not surprised.
Thu May 31, 2012, 11:03 AM
May 2012

Bucher was one of the most outspoken Democrats during her tenure in the Florida house.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
17. I Believe The Scrub
Thu May 31, 2012, 12:32 PM
May 2012

Will not happen until after June 6th so there is a tiny amount of time to get this stopped.

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
10. Hoooo-bloody-rah!
Thu May 31, 2012, 11:19 AM
May 2012

Damn it, it's sad that it's so encouraging when somebody shows some spine. That woman needs to be Governor.

-- Mal

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
16. Wrong Solution To Wrong Problem Using The Wrong Methodology
Thu May 31, 2012, 12:30 PM
May 2012

If there is a problem it is with the registeration process and fixing those problems would be the place to start. I have not heard of any problems identified nor of any proposed changes to fix those problems.

A Republican party official today told MSNBC that "we know" there are illegal people registered. Of course he did not indicate how "we know". And he said it twice so it was one of his talking points. As we learned from the 2000 felon purge the "Juan Gomez" on the voter registeration role may not be the same "Juan Gomez" they have as a match from the Highway Safety department. Now I have no problem with them doing this match but once they do they need to review the registeration record and find something wrong there before sending out a notice. Not doing this sounds like it violates the Florida law on "credible and reliable" data. There was clearly nothing "credible and reliable" with sending the notice to the 91-year old WW II war hero.

The obvious problem is that in Florida the voter registeration process is not shielded from partisam politics so changes in the law are needed in that area so the department has independence from these kinds of things.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
21. "we know" translated
Thu May 31, 2012, 12:54 PM
May 2012

"we know" really means "we know that only White Anglo Saxon Protestants owning property should vote, only reason we let the Cubans vote is because we needed to change Florida from Democrat to Republican."

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
26. I wrote to the white house and also signed a petition for Eric Holder
Thu May 31, 2012, 06:06 PM
May 2012

to get off his butt and stop this voter purging that's going on in Florida under Gov. Rick Scott.....duh think it will do any good to ask him to do his job?

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
20. Repeat this in every county
Thu May 31, 2012, 12:51 PM
May 2012

Especially Hillsbourough and Pinellas (aka "The tampa bay area&quot and Orange (home of Orlando and Tray Martin).

lovelyrita

(241 posts)
27. Sandford, where the Trayvon Martin shooting happened is in Seminole County, not Orange.
Thu May 31, 2012, 09:15 PM
May 2012

I live in Polk County and am really concerned about the election. For those of us on the ground, things are getting real scary.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
29. OK, I stand corrected, but
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 03:12 AM
Jun 2012

Orlando is the main metro in the area, and somehwere where I am sure the GOP will try tricks.

lovelyrita

(241 posts)
30. The tricks don't stop coming!
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 06:21 AM
Jun 2012

1. Changes to the voter ID laws.
2. Making early voting more difficult by opening the polls for less hours.
3. Imposing fines and ridiculous rules about when the paperwork must be turned in and who is responsible for it. This forced many third party groups who register voters to stop doing so.
4. Purging voters from the voter rolls.
5. Waiting until the last moment possible to have the maps from the redistricting available. This is making it difficult to attract candidates and imposing a burden on the county Supervisor of Elections.

There are so many problems down here, I am glad that the national media seems to have picked up on some of it. For those of us on the ground in Florida, this entire year has been a struggle against these terrible burdens to democracy.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
22. More like this--on to the other swing states
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:02 PM
May 2012

with Republican election problems. They are attacking all of us. Very cleverly and in different ways depending on local laws. The SNAKES!!!

Vidar

(18,335 posts)
23. Ms. Bucher is one hell of a gutsy lady.
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:03 PM
May 2012

Unfortunately, such courage is very rare among our elected Democratic officilals.

virgdem

(2,124 posts)
24. This is great news..
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:08 PM
May 2012

my father, brother and nephews all live in Palm Beach County and I was worried about their voting status. It really does make a difference who the Supervisor of Elections is and whether they are Dems or Pubs.

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