First Read: Get Ready for a Long Fight for the Democratic Nod

[Attorney in Texas]

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Source: NBC News

How Michael Bloomberg creates a statistical tie between Trump and Sanders (or Trump and Clinton)

On Saturday, as much of the East Coast was snowed in by a historic blizzard, we learned that former NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg is seriously preparing for a third-party run -- if Donald Trump and Ted Cruz look like your GOP nominee, and if Bernie Sanders is ahead in the Democratic contest. When Hillary Clinton was asked about a possible Bloomberg run on "Meet the Press" yesterday, she responded, per NBC's Monica Alba: "He's a good friend of mine. The way I read what he said is if I didn't get the nomination, he might consider it. Well, I'm going to relieve him of that and get the nomination so he doesn't have to." Here was Sanders' reaction on "Meet": "If Donald Trump wins and Mr. Bloomberg gets in, you're going to have two multi-billionaires running for president of the United States against me. And I think the American people do not want to see our nation move toward an oligarchy where billionaires control the political process. I think we'll win that election." But per an online Morning Consult poll (conducted Jan. 21-24), a Trump-Sanders-Bloomberg three-way race gets you a statistical tie -- Sanders 35%, Trump 34%, and Bloomberg 12%. That's almost identical to what the same poll (conducted Jan. 14-17) found in a Trump-Clinton-Bloomberg matchup -- Trump 37%, Clinton 36%, Bloomberg 13%.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read-get-ready-long-fight-democratic-nod-n503696

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Sorta buried the headline:

Sanders does better than Clinton in a three-way race:

Sanders 35%, Trump 34%, and Bloomberg 12%

Trump 37%, Clinton 36%, Bloomberg 13%

EDITED to add Morning Consult's poll numbers for independents (Clinton does worse) and with Cruz instead of Trump (Sanders wins even bigger).

Among Independents:

Sanders 31%, Trump 33%, Bloomberg 11%

Trump 37%, Clinton 24%, Bloomberg 18%

excerpt:

"Sanders gets a boost in poll numbers when competing with Bloomberg and a different Republican nominee, like Texas Sen. Ted Cruz or Florida Sen. Marco Rubio. Sanders gets 36 percent of voters against Cruz, who gets 28 percent of voters and Bloomberg, who gets 11 percent of voters. The Vermont senator gets 38 percent of voters when he’s up against Rubio, who gets 33 percent of voters, and Bloomberg, who gets 10 percent of voters. Clinton similarly held larger leads in potential match-ups with Cruz and Rubio."

[jalan48]

1. I thought Bloomberg would only run if Bernie won the Democratic primary.

Hillary will protect the 1% so there would be no need for him to run if she wins.

[Attorney in Texas]

2. That's certainly the Clinton spin. Maybe you would draw a different conclusion from the polling that

Bloomberg commissioned.

[Hulk]

3. Where do these narcissistic billionaire idiots get off?

Senator Sander's message is so diametrically opposed to tRump and bLoomberg's. I see his potential entry as just being a spoiler for the great-wealth ticket. Those considering Sanders have little interest in their class of power or their message.

Bernie is on a roll, and HRC isn't sleeping well these days.

[BumRushDaShow]

4. This is an analysis. Not LBN. nt

[Attorney in Texas]

5. Polling is breaking news (or at least polling that favors Clinton is breaking news).

Just look at the myriad of polling threads in LBN.

Is there a different LBN standard for polling that is less favorable to Clinton?

[DhhD]

6. Three part plan of the Oligarch is surprised by the rise of Progressive's democracy and its

rising candidate, Bernie Sanders.

The three part plan was third way Barack Obama first, then Republican talking point Hillary Clinton, then a revolving door Goldman Sachs Democratic Primary Nominee (after Clinton), to run for President.

Oligarchs have known for a time now that the GOP was going over a cliff. Romney could not sell Reganism/Trickle-Down any longer.

IMO, Senator Warren was waiting to run against the Democratic Oligarch Nominee after Clinton.

A little change of their long term plan/coupe: run Bloomberg in the IOP-Independent Oligarch Party for the 2016 General Election.

[Attorney in Texas]

7. How is it possible that someone as smart as Bloomberg looks at this race and concludes "we need more

billionaires from NYC"?

[DhhD]

8. He is protecting his assests from the tug of war between the two parties that count; the Progressive

Democrats and the IOP-Independent Oligarch Party.

How many are on the side of the Progressive tug vs. the number on the Oligarchy tug?

[lark]

9. Bloomberg better not throw the election to the Repugs.

His karma will haunt him forever.

[In_The_Wind]

10. Locking

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