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L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:51 PM Jan 2016

REPORTS: Harney District Hospital in Burns is on lockdown - Ammon Bundy is in custody - shots fired

Last edited Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:05 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: Twitter

[center]KOIN News ‏@KOINNews 1 minute ago
REPORTS: Harney District Hospital in Burns is on lockdown. #OregonStandoff
http://koin.com/2016/01/26/malheur-militia-law-enforcement-01262016/?cid=twitter_KOINNews

Les Zaitz @LesZaitz
Pete Santilli reporting that Ammon Bundy is in custody and shots were fired. No police confirmation.

OPB ‏@OPB
Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward said he plans to issue a press release shortly. http://ow.ly/XzveG

Brent Weisberg ‏@BrentKOIN
BREAKING: From OSP: "OSP & the Harney County / Joint Information Center will be putting out a release."
http://koin.com/2016/01/26/malheur-militia-law-enforcement-01262016/ … #KOIN6News


Read more: https://twitter.com/LesZaitz/status/692160642925617152



[center]Pete Santilli cannot be trusted. That said, something is happening.



Pete Santilli: Militants supporter says Ammon Bundy in custody
Rebecca Woolington | The Oregonian/OregonLive updated January 26, 2016 at 5:58 PM

Two people have been shot and Ammon Bundy is in custody, according to a YouTube live stream report by Pete Santilli, who was speaking outside a hospital in Burns.
The media was alerted to a possible shooting with casualties --- upon approaching the road where the shooting was said to occur web found a blockade with officers in tactical gear and AR 15's on guard. The hospital is also on lockdown.

BURNS, Ore. (KOIN)
Highway 395 at the intersection of US 20 north of Burns — not far from the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge — closed in both directions.
Harney District Hospital is on lockdown, OPB reported.
KOIN 6 News will have more information as soon as possible.

more on edit BREAKING NOW
Les Zaitz @LesZaitz | OPB @OPB | KOIN News @KOIN News

Les Zaitz ‏@LesZaitz
Ryan Payne, one of the occupation leaders, suffered multiple gunshots, according to a local government official.
The highway between John Day and Burns is blocked by police at Seneca, which is about 40 miles north of Burns. No travel allowed.

Hwy 395 at US 20 near Malheur closed http://wp.me/p4yR81-16tS

Dave Blanchard ‏@blanchardd 1 minute ago
Meanwhile, well over 100 people are waiting for Bundy group meeting to begin inside. #Oregonstandoff


Randa ‏@Choderino 4 minutes ago
Heard from a friend's dad in burns that there was a confrontation on the way to John day. On police scanner. #Oregonstandoff #BurnsOregon

BREAKING: Ammon Bundy & 3 others in custody after shots fired at #Oregonstandoff - reports http://on.rt.com/72tl

[center]Amanda Peacher ‏@amandapeacher 45 minutes ago
Tonight I'm covering a mtg with Bundy and co in John Day, Ore. Flyers are up in town. #Oregonstandoff


Dave Killen @killendave 1 hour ago
.@lucashammill & I have migrated to John Day in Grant County for tonight's meeting, cont'd #Oregonstandoff coverage




Wilderness Society ‏@Wilderness 2 hours ago
#OregonStandoff triggers an anti-Bundy backlash as Americans who love public lands speak out: http://bit.ly/1VpazHQ

Kelly House ‏@Kelly_M_House 3 hours ago
Could #Oregonstandoff set back efforts to control invasive carp in Malheur Lake? Via @highcountrynews
http://www.hcn.org/articles/carp-lady-linda-beck-malheur-standoff-could-set-back-conservation-by-three-years

Dave Killen ‏@killendave
Not sure how well it'll work to tweet a panorama, but took aside from #oregonstandoff to shoot the Steens yesterday


Dave Blanchard ‏@blanchardd 6 minutes ago
Counter protester crowd growing. Now 35-40 outside Bundy meeting in John Day #Oregonstandoff


About 20 counter protesters outside John Day senior center, where Bundy group planned meeting. #Oregonstandoff


Jeroen van de Weijer ‏@JeroenSH
An Oregon man involved in the armed #OregonStandoff has been arrested on multiple charges today
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/26/1475404/-An-Oregon-man-involved-in-the-armed-standoff-has-been-arrested-on-multiple-charges-today

===== Previous #BundyTeaParty Threads =======

Bundy Gives Demands For Continued FBI Negotiations #BundyTeaParty

An Oregon man involved in the armed standoff has been arrested on multiple charges today

#RefugeRally chant went from "birds not bullies" to "throw the bums in jail" #Oregonstandoff 43 pics

Happening now: Bundy breaking down fence on refuge #BundyTeaParty

The #BundyBunch was spotted this morning, foraging for snacks.


===== Wed. noon edit =====


Bundy Shootout - Account of Witness Mark McConnell
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REPORTS: Harney District Hospital in Burns is on lockdown - Ammon Bundy is in custody - shots fired (Original Post) L. Coyote Jan 2016 OP
Holy. Shit. Initech Jan 2016 #1
Every Rethug running for president must be praying for another Waco right now. forest444 Jan 2016 #2
I wonder how they'll react to this. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #4
"Yet another unconstitutional overreach by Barack Hussein Obama" forest444 Jan 2016 #6
So great seeing these two giants hearing the dogwhistle. Adorable. Perfect picture. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #18
Why, thank you Judi! forest444 Jan 2016 #23
Wow! Never met one in person, yet. Have adored them from afar. They seem so soulful. Wuf. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #36
That's exactly what they are! forest444 Jan 2016 #39
This doggie seems very familiar with the song! Wow. Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #72
Lady Day. Absolutely. forest444 Jan 2016 #83
One of the Republican candidates for President was just jailed in Burns. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #5
These people are a gift that keeps on giving, aren't they! forest444 Jan 2016 #8
He doesn't seem particularly more absurd than the other candidates, does he? Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #20
He's a bit more bombastic than Trump. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #127
Don't let that asshole fool you. jen63 Jan 2016 #25
You're probably right, Jen. forest444 Jan 2016 #31
I'm in Ohio. jen63 Jan 2016 #66
The Bundys are terrorists. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #3
And actors? "the ALEC lens is emerging as the only way to make sense of Bundy’s actions." L. Coyote Feb 2016 #147
Oh, PLEASE let this be the beginning of the end for these dipsh*ts! lastlib Jan 2016 #7
I don't think any of this happened. Archae Jan 2016 #9
+1. This smells. Oneironaut Jan 2016 #12
This thread broke the story, so no surprise there wasn't any other stiory out yet. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #113
It is true. Oregon Live and CNN are both reporting it. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #47
Really? NBC: One Dead as Oregon Occupation Leaders Ammon and Ryan Bundy Arrested Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #86
Read the OP. The sources are many. I waited to confirm from various sources. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #110
Some people appear to "think" it ain't news unless corporate stenographers say it's news. Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #111
The problem was the early sources. Archae Jan 2016 #120
I had to sit on the news for a few minutes because I also would not believe word one from #PSguy. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #123
Two people have been shot and Ammon Bundy is in custody: report bemildred Jan 2016 #10
Ammo Bundle Mendocino Jan 2016 #11
Cheering along with you, Mendocino. love_katz Jan 2016 #60
Amazing catch, L. Coyote. Don't know how you did so much so quickly! Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #13
I was creating the thread for the 6pm meeting they were driving too, using Twitter L. Coyote Jan 2016 #19
Outstanding timing, and focus. It's outstanding you caught this so quickly, Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #22
#Oregonstandoff Twitter feed -- Pete Santilli being arrested on his own show! L. Coyote Jan 2016 #14
CNN has the story now (n/t) William Seger Jan 2016 #15
They're cleaning up. Oneironaut Jan 2016 #16
From what I read, they are giving eveyrone at the refuge a free pass to leave now passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #48
I would hope they already have their names, addresses, social security numbers, etc. Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #76
Fantastic! Thank you for the update. Wow. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #17
His video feed continues, very poor quality. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #21
It appears to come and go. Worth keeping an eye on it. Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #24
Leader of Oregon occupation Ammon Bundy, at least 8 others detained Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #26
Good catch. News is breaking fast now. Watch for the police press report. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #34
One dead, evidently one of the nutbags Major Nikon Jan 2016 #35
Wow. Getting strange. One nutbag martyr. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #37
They wont be martyrs padfun Jan 2016 #62
Sure hope you're right, thinking there are more sane people than idiots. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #77
I heard it was the Blue Tarp guy that died. FarPoint Jan 2016 #102
He seemed really surly on a tv interview I saw briefly. Creepy guy. Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #112
I hope all non-occupiers are safe and avoided harm nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #27
Rumors spreading ... among those gathered in John Day. Very few confirmed facts. Group now praying.. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #28
BREAKING NEWS: Ammon Bundy arrested with three fellow militiamen after 'two people were shot' at sit Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #29
replied to the wrong person blogslut Jan 2016 #30
Police Reportedly Arrest Rancher Ammon Bundy and Militiamen Occupying Oregon Wildlife Refuge Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #32
Whoa blogslut Jan 2016 #33
Two Bundys headed to the slammer. Hope they can get French Vanilla creamer there. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #41
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #85
Time for some schadenfreude. Jake Stern Jan 2016 #38
Great coverage L. Coyote. They picked them up on the way to the meeting underpants Jan 2016 #40
Ammon And Ryan Bundy Arrested In Oregon; One Militant Dies In Shootout With Law Enforcement Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #42
Hopefully, all casualties are the idiots. nt Lucky Luciano Jan 2016 #43
Here's the official news release from law enforcement in and around Burns. #Oregonstandoff L. Coyote Jan 2016 #44
Ammon Bundy arrested, 1 dead in Oregon, reports say Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #45
Update: Oregon standoff meeting interrupted with announcement that altercation stopped speakers Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #46
Bundys in custody, one militant dead after gunfight near Burns Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #49
5 arrested, 1 dead in connection with Oregon standoff, FBI says: read the press release Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #50
Thanks for the timely and informative post. love_katz Jan 2016 #51
#BREAKING: Radio talk show host and militia sympathizer Peter Sanitlli has also been arrested. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #68
Peter Sanitlli is a poisonous man. It's good news he gets to join his ugly buddies. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #79
Oh dear...he seemed almost rational. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #52
**Almost** rational FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #55
Yeah, but he kept stressing that nobody wanted to shoot anyone. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #58
"This peace guy"? He sat there with his rifle...under a tarp FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #61
They were all walking around with guns passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #63
I agree with you, I feel sad that he died for such stupidity. polly7 Jan 2016 #69
You've got more compassion for him than I do. cheapdate Jan 2016 #87
Yes, he put himself in that position but still ..... he has those who cared about him. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #89
I'm not a saint. I don't wish any suffering on his family. cheapdate Jan 2016 #97
That is true, I don't disagree at all. They were intent on causing violence at some point. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #100
No way should anyone believe a word Bundy would say. The agents would absolutely not be interested Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #88
Police at roadblock between Burns and John Day on edge, heavily armed L. Coyote Jan 2016 #53
Thanks for your reporting on this breaking news FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #59
Blue Tarp guy dead? OldRedneck Jan 2016 #54
That's the way it is looking passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #56
Apparently, he got his wish. He's not on the arrested list. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #64
Bet he was a heck of a novelist, too. Or maybe not. Finicum, we hardly knew ye outside the tarp. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #91
He died doing what he loved... SHRED Jan 2016 #57
It appears that Mendocino Jan 2016 #65
That went fast, didn't it? They waited so long, could have turned back at any time. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #92
The blue tarp guy, Lavoy Finicum, deceased. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #67
I hope his family thinks it was worth it. SHRED Jan 2016 #71
Amazing. Everyone probably expected he was going to stay right there under the tarp with his gun.n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #98
Thanks Coyote and Judi Lynn! cheapdate Jan 2016 #70
Our pleasure. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #93
+1000. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #96
I'm thanking L. Coyote, who broke the story at D.U. I nearly swallowed my tongue when I saw it. Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #99
Apparently, Ritzheimer has been asked to turn himself in to the FBI. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #73
This feed is crazy! polly7 Jan 2016 #74
Just as crazy as Santilli's YouTube feed. They say Bundy told his wife yatta yatta .... L. Coyote Jan 2016 #81
Yes. polly7 Jan 2016 #84
Joint Statement by the FBI and Oregon State Police csziggy Jan 2016 #75
Further statements = Updates. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #117
Cliven Bundy said: "He's sacrificed for a good purpose." L. Coyote Jan 2016 #78
Sounds like the feds had a strategy. ucrdem Jan 2016 #80
And it also appears the sheriff everyone criticized may have led them into a trap. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #82
exactly - they fell for the "meeting" ruse flamingdem Jan 2016 #107
And then up at high elevation, between the snow banks, ... L. Coyote Jan 2016 #118
"everyone is spreading the rumor ... (Bundy) called his wife from the backseat of a cop car L. Coyote Jan 2016 #90
Wow. polly7 Jan 2016 #94
Not willing to give up their big chance, are they? They may not find it as easy to do again. Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #95
Jon Ritzheimer in federal custody. Handed himself in L. Coyote Jan 2016 #101
There are all sorts of spin stories about Finicum. Mendocino Jan 2016 #103
CNN says 2 people didn't obey orders to surrender - LaVoy Finicum, who was killed, and Ryan Bundy L. Coyote Jan 2016 #105
"WSJ, report from officials ... cars stopped for arrest, person in car pulled gun and began firing" L. Coyote Jan 2016 #104
Goodbye message from militant still at the ranch flamingdem Jan 2016 #106
Hope they enjoy their "time" Mendocino Jan 2016 #108
OregonGovBrown responds to arrest of "unlawful occupiers" #OregonStandoff L. Coyote Jan 2016 #109
What a great song title. Stupendous! Really sticks in the mind. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #116
USC TITLE 18 - Sec. 372. Conspiracy to impede or injure officer L. Coyote Jan 2016 #114
In Burns, OR after Ammon Bundy arrest, assault vehicles, LEOs in full battle-rattle. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #115
No License plate, probally US Army or National Guard trucks left over from the War in Ieaq happyslug Jan 2016 #122
k and r...nt Stuart G Jan 2016 #119
AM Update. Still dark in Oregon, first light beginning. Authorities sealed off refuge overnight. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #121
FBI is not allowing media inside the checkpoints. @JohnLGC and @Bradley_W_Parks are inside L. Coyote Jan 2016 #124
Oregonian: Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum shot and killed while charging police, driver says L. Coyote Jan 2016 #125
FBI releases statement saying response was 'deliberate and measured' L. Coyote Jan 2016 #126
You have done an incredible job keeping us all informed. etherealtruth Jan 2016 #128
Indeed. FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #129
Thanks. Maybe ahead of news reports, but coming from the media reporter tweets. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #137
Live: Remaining occupiers broadcast from inside Malheur National Wildlife Refuge L. Coyote Jan 2016 #130
Before he was arrested, militant pondered on how #Oregonstandoff would end - VIDEO L. Coyote Jan 2016 #131
Convoy of semis containing flood lighting & cement barricades heads toward refuge L. Coyote Jan 2016 #132
Looks serious, like maybe they have thought about this next step for awhile. FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #135
Ammon Bundy and 6 co- defendants ordered detained until Friday @ hearing - 31 page complaint L. Coyote Jan 2016 #133
US v. Bundy Complaint and Affidavit Jan 27, 2016 - Interesting reading. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #134
Long convoy of vehicles arrived @ Harney County Courthouse, where many seemed to enter, then leave L. Coyote Jan 2016 #136
The Oregonian is reporting three more arrests near the Refuge jobendorfer Jan 2016 #138
Occupiers leaving amid mounting calls to end the takeover muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #139
Last militia ringleader surrenders, stragglers remain at the refuge drinking beer, smoking pot L. Coyote Jan 2016 #140
OPB has spoken with the last four militants inside the Malheur refuge. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #141
'Thousands' called to Burns to tell FBI to leave after occupation leader's arrest L. Coyote Jan 2016 #142
Judge: 'As long as that situation is ongoing I'm not going to release anybody' L. Coyote Jan 2016 #143
Apparently, the militant takeover is over, details sketchy. Road opening, presser in Burns later. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #144
Live Updates: Law Enforcement Movement Reported At Refuge - press conference at 5:30 pm L. Coyote Jan 2016 #145
FBI Press Conference in Burns - Video of LaVoy Finicum Shooting Released. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #146

forest444

(5,902 posts)
2. Every Rethug running for president must be praying for another Waco right now.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:55 PM
Jan 2016

With the possible exception of John Kasich, who seems genuinely decent.

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
18. So great seeing these two giants hearing the dogwhistle. Adorable. Perfect picture. n/t
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:41 PM
Jan 2016

forest444

(5,902 posts)
23. Why, thank you Judi!
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:48 PM
Jan 2016

You know, I bet that if someone could poll everyone here at DU, they'd find that most of us are cat people (I do love those adorable kitteh threads.

But it's dogs for me. My favorites are probably bassets:

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
36. Wow! Never met one in person, yet. Have adored them from afar. They seem so soulful. Wuf. n/t
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:02 PM
Jan 2016

forest444

(5,902 posts)
39. That's exactly what they are!
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:08 PM
Jan 2016

You have an excellent eye!

I had one for a few years. They're so observant, expressive, personable, and regal; he was a real character.

Most dogs, as you know, look up to you; but bassets see you as their equal.

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
72. This doggie seems very familiar with the song! Wow.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:13 AM
Jan 2016

He certainly appeared totally tuned into it, and made a shift when the song shifted.

My laptop doesn't have the best sound, but it sounded to me a little like Billie Holliday.

Mr. Bassett showed amazing restraint in his supporting role, and awareness of the song, and the proper tone!

Very unusual, impressive perception.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
83. Lady Day. Absolutely.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jan 2016

That, of course, was one of Billie Holiday's best-known standards, I'll Be Seeing You.

I'm sorry to hear about your laptop troubles, Judi. If you're in the market for a new one, consider Newegg. They have really good deals, and good customer support. http://www.newegg.com/

Good luck! I'll be seeing you.



forest444

(5,902 posts)
8. These people are a gift that keeps on giving, aren't they!
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jan 2016

Kudos for breaking these news, L. Coyote - a red letter day, no doubt about it!

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
20. He doesn't seem particularly more absurd than the other candidates, does he? Thanks. n/t
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jan 2016

forest444

(5,902 posts)
31. You're probably right, Jen.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:59 PM
Jan 2016

I vaguely remember Kasich being one of the nastier, most opportunistic Republicans during the Clinton impeachment circus.

And those leopards rarely if ever change their stripes.

jen63

(813 posts)
66. I'm in Ohio.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jan 2016

He's gone more moderate in public since Issue 2 shut him up. He's not changed at all though. Our schools are in terrible shape, and he and the House are gutting our pro choice rights. Spread the word; those who aren't familiar can easily be taken in by his lying mouth.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
147. And actors? "the ALEC lens is emerging as the only way to make sense of Bundy’s actions."
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:18 AM
Feb 2016
The real agenda behind the Malheur takeover
by Tina Casey on Monday, Feb 1st, 2016

..... All this leads us to thinking that Bundy chose the Malheur refuge as the focus for extreme action precisely because the 2013 agreement was working, not because it wasn’t working.

As described, the 2013 agreement is actually a model for mobilizing local stakeholders in support of federal land ownership. That presents a direct threat to the movement to privatize federal land, promoted by the powerful lobbying organization ALEC under the guise of a “states’ rights” philosophy.

When the Malheur takeover first erupted, TriplePundit noted that ALEC’s states’-rights fingerprints were all over all it, and as events unfold, the ALEC lens is emerging as the only way to make sense of Bundy’s actions.

While professing to help the local community, Bundy consistently and willfully failed to abide by overwhelming local sentiment calling for him to leave, including pleas from the Hammonds themselves. .......


Tina Casey ‏@TinaMCasey Jan 30
The #Oregonstandoff exposes ALEC fingers in "states rights" movement #Malheur #Oregon #USA #nature #wildlife
http://www.triplepundit.com/2016/01/oregon-occupation-update-multiple-arrests-one-fatality/

TriplePundit has been following the Oregon occupation from a corporate social responsibility (CSR) perspective partly because it has exposed, in dramatic fashion, the group’s “states-rights” stance as nothing more than a land-grab orchestrated by the conservative lobbying group ALEC ..

.... the weeks-long drama is now winding down, providing local media with an opportunity to dig deeper into the situation leading up to the takeover. Rather than supporting the militants’ cause, the picture that emerges makes this attempt to overthrow federal control of public property by force even more incoherent than it did at the start. ......
[center]

ALEC fingerprints all over #Malheur Wildlife Refuge takeover #nature #birds #Oregon #USA #UnitedStates
http://www.triplepundit.com/2016/01/csr-lessons-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-takeover/

Taylor McKinnon ‏@publiccarbon 15 minutes ago
"This was never meant to be an armed standoff" Jeff Schwick photo of #bundymilitia


Bruce Mackenzie ‏@BruceMackenzi19 20 minutes ago
#Oregonstandoff "Patriot: the person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about.” -Mark Twain

"This has always been about putting God back in American and back in our schools."
Don Cox also said his wife isn't a terrorist or anti-government.

Taylor McKinnon @publiccarbon
On how #bundymilitia is a tool for those seeking corporate privatization of US public lands. #Oregonstandoff #duh
http://www.psmag.com/nature-and-technology/beyond-the-bundys-the-far-right-and-the-future-of-conservation

We now know #bundymilitia recruited armed standoffs in OR, ID, UT, NM. That's seditious conspiracy. #Oregonstandoff
http://www.sltrib.com/news/3476188-155/in-front-of-assistant-utah-ag
 

Archae

(47,245 posts)
9. I don't think any of this happened.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:08 PM
Jan 2016

There is nothing on ANY of the "big three" news channels.
Just their regular programming.

Pete Santilli is a totally discredited "source."

Oneironaut

(6,295 posts)
12. +1. This smells.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:17 PM
Jan 2016

This could be true, but more than likely they were just arrested or something.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
113. This thread broke the story, so no surprise there wasn't any other stiory out yet.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:32 AM
Jan 2016

It broke as we started live coverage of the John Day meeting they were traveling to, that thread in GD.[center]

DIANA LYNN BLOKZYL ‏@NANDEE218
Even with the arrest of Ammon Bundy and 6 others, the #OregonStandoff isn't over. Still many holed up in refuge, calling for more to come.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
47. It is true. Oregon Live and CNN are both reporting it.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jan 2016

Ryan Bundy was shot, but minor, and someone else (unnamed) was killed. Aaron Bundy is in captivitiy along with two others. A number were apprehended, but it sounds like some of them were let go.

I don't think finnican was with them...could be wrong there.

They had a road block set up to catch them on their way to the John Day meeting.

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
86. Really? NBC: One Dead as Oregon Occupation Leaders Ammon and Ryan Bundy Arrested
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jan 2016

One Dead as Oregon Occupation Leaders Ammon and Ryan Bundy Arrested

by Alex Johnson and Erin Calabrese
Jan 26 2016, 11:13 pm ET

Ammon and Ryan Bundy, the brothers leading anti-government protesters occupying Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon, and five other people were arrested Tuesday, state and federal authorities said. One person was dead, the FBI said.

Shots were fired about 4:25 p.m. (7:25 p.m. ET) when the FBI and Oregon State Police began an "enforcement action" at the wildlife refuge, the FBI said. It didn't identify the victim but said he or she wasn't a law enforcement officer.

Three other people were in custody in addition to the Bundys in the initial incident, authorities said:
•Brian Cavalier, 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada
•Shawna Cox, 59, Kanab, Utah
•Ryan Waylen Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Montana

Two other people — Joseph Donald O'Shaughnessy, 45, of Cottonwood, Arizona, and Peter Santilli, 50, of Cincinnati — were arrested later in separate but related incidents, the FBI said.

Santilli is well known locally as a webcaster and activist who has vigorously supported the Bundys. He was live-streaming the initial confrontation when his feed went down late Tuesday afternoon.

More:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oregon-occupation-leader-ammon-bundy-arrested-law-enforcement-sources-n504911

[center]~ ~ ~ [/center]
1 dead as Ammon Bundy, 6 others arrested in Oregon

Armed group began occupying the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in eastern Oregon on Jan. 2 to protest federal land us​e policies

Last Updated Jan 26, 2016 11:14 PM EST

BURNS, Ore. -- One person was killed and another wounded as federal and state authorities arrested the leader of an armed group that has occupied a national wildlife refuge in Oregon for more than three weeks and five of his followers, the FBI said late Tuesday.

The FBI said authorities arrested Ammon Bundy, 40, his brother Ryan Bundy, 43, Brian Cavalier, 44, Shawna Cox, 59, and Ryan Payne, 32, during a traffic stop Tuesday afternoon on U.S. Highway 395.

Authorities said another person, Joseph Donald O'Shaughnessy, 45, was arrested by Oregon State Police in Burns. Later Tuesday evening, the FBI arrested Peter Santilli, 50, in Burns.

Shots were fired during the arrest and one person was killed. The person's identity was not released, pending notification of his next of kin. The FBI said he was the "subject of a federal probable cause arrest."

More:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/militia-leader-ammon-bundy-arrested-in-oregon/

[center]~ ~ ~ [/center]
Oregon Standoff: 1 Dead, 1 Wounded As Feds Arrest Ammon Bundy and Others

By TOM LIDDY

·Jan 26, 2016, 10:34 PM ET

Several members of a militia that have been occupying federal land in Oregon -- including Ammon Bundy -- have been arrested after a weeks-long standoff with law enforcement, authorities said.

Around 4:25 p.m., federal officials moved in to try to take several militia members into custody at the Malheur National Wildlife refuge. Shots were fired during the arrest and one individual -- the subject of a probable cause arrest, was killed, the FBI said. No name was available.

Another suffered non-life threatening injuries and was taken into custody.

Among the five arrested there was Bundy, the son of Cliven Bundy, a Nevada rancher who engaged in a standoff with the federal government, in 2014.

More:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-standoff-dead-wounded-feds-arrest-ammon-bundy/story?id=36537136

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
110. Read the OP. The sources are many. I waited to confirm from various sources.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:20 AM
Jan 2016

When have any of the "big three" outpaced DU?

Twitter is the gold source of news in the world today with a known hashtag like #OregonStandoff. I'm watching the feed for a dozen hashtags. People reported the highway closing before Santilli knew to go to the hospital. I put up the Santilli warning because the video is his feed. And that's why we saw his arrest live, on his own program!

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
111. Some people appear to "think" it ain't news unless corporate stenographers say it's news.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:28 AM
Jan 2016

You may have found yourself going to look at LBN, as I have, after hearing a new story, knowing someone at DU is probably on it, already!

You definitely got this one, and it's a good one. If you hadn't taken the time to check with so many sources, you would have been even faster than you already were.

 

Archae

(47,245 posts)
120. The problem was the early sources.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:10 AM
Jan 2016

Most of the early reports came from Pete Santilli, and we've seen he is a liar, rabble-rousing demagogue and publicity hound.

hence my initial doubt.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
123. I had to sit on the news for a few minutes because I also would not believe word one from #PSguy.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:17 AM
Jan 2016

KOIN was the first major outlet I saw tweet it. Video of the armed lockdown at the hospital was certainly a bigger clue than ranting by #PSguy.

Also, once they were way overdue at their meeting hall, it was obvious something had happened between Burns and John Day.

Mendocino

(8,491 posts)
11. Ammo Bundle
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jan 2016

in jail, three cheers to the official who clapped the handcuffs on this terrorist miscreant.

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
13. Amazing catch, L. Coyote. Don't know how you did so much so quickly!
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jan 2016

The tension around these loons has been loathesome, every minute they have squatted there.

Maybe this will get the ball rolling.

Hope the government officials didn't make any mistakes, themselves. This could be a good time to lock them all up.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
19. I was creating the thread for the 6pm meeting they were driving too, using Twitter
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jan 2016

to capture the photos with tweets when the news broke.

#BundyTeaParty has meeting in John Day tonight, counter-protestors gather too.

No one is watching that thread now! The media was over there, waiting for the #BundyBunch, and so were the police.[center]

Not so much FreeRange now, still just as nuts.



Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
22. Outstanding timing, and focus. It's outstanding you caught this so quickly,
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:47 PM
Jan 2016

by watching their movements!

This is one great story.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
14. #Oregonstandoff Twitter feed -- Pete Santilli being arrested on his own show!
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:38 PM
Jan 2016

[center]HGTomato ‏@HGTomato 1 minute ago
intense now. i think santilli being arrested. #Oregonstandoff #bundymilitia

Karl Frisch ‏@KarlFrisch
DEVELOPING: Ammon Bundy Arrested In #OregonStandoff, Shots Fired. http://karlfris.ch/1nx2AOy

KATU News ‏@KATUNews
Injuries reported in situation near Burns; 4 arrested including Ammon Bundy #LiveOnK2 #Oregonstandoff http://bit.ly/1K9yjis



Oneironaut

(6,295 posts)
16. They're cleaning up.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:39 PM
Jan 2016

I wonder if an assault is going to happen on the compound next? Interesting...

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
48. From what I read, they are giving eveyrone at the refuge a free pass to leave now
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jan 2016

IF they don't leave, they will most likely be arrested.

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
76. I would hope they already have their names, addresses, social security numbers, etc.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:15 AM
Jan 2016

They deserve a swift, solid kick in the rear on their ways out.

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
26. Leader of Oregon occupation Ammon Bundy, at least 8 others detained
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:54 PM
Jan 2016

Leader of Oregon occupation Ammon Bundy, at least 8 others detained

By KATU.com Staff |Tuesday, January 26th 2016

HARNEY COUNTY, Ore. — KATU News has learned the leader of the armed occupation at Malheur Wildlife Refuge - Ammon Bundy - has been detained, along with at least eight other individuals Tuesday evening.

Officials said it all began with a traffic stop while Bundy and some of his followers were en route to a community meeting in John Day, about 70 miles away.

Shots were fired after FBI agents, Oregon State troopers and other law enforcement agencies made the stop. CNN reports its unclear who fired first.

Details of the arrest and confrontation remain unknown, but charges are pending related to the group's 25-day takeover of the wildlife refuge.

More:
http://katu.com/news/local/leader-of-oregon-occupation-ammon-bundy-three-others-arrested

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
34. Good catch. News is breaking fast now. Watch for the police press report.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jan 2016

I need to go eat.

[link:http://| #oregonstandoff 406 new results!] Whew. Time to filter to just the reporters on scene.

padfun

(1,897 posts)
62. They wont be martyrs
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:49 PM
Jan 2016

If anything, anyone coming out in favor of the Bundy clan will be shown as seditionist and/or terrorists to this country.
I really don't expect much backlash.

FarPoint

(14,759 posts)
102. I heard it was the Blue Tarp guy that died.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:10 AM
Jan 2016

Well, he died doing what he loved doing.....

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
112. He seemed really surly on a tv interview I saw briefly. Creepy guy.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:29 AM
Jan 2016

By keeping his tarp over his body, a person couldn't tell if he was pointing his death ray at him or not!

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
28. Rumors spreading ... among those gathered in John Day. Very few confirmed facts. Group now praying..
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:56 PM
Jan 2016

[center]Dave Blanchard ‏@blanchardd 26 minutes ago
Rumors spreading very quickly among those gathered in John Day. Very few confirmed facts. Group now praying for Bundys. #Oregonstandoff

30 minutes ago
A children's choir is performing at John Day meeting in lieu of Bundy group speaking. Crowd demanding news of Bundys #Oregonstandoff

33 minutes ago
Lots of smiles among counter-protesters in John Day as news spreads. #Oregonstandoff

50 minutes ago
Organizer of John Day meeting: "My guest speakers aren't going to be here tonight."

1 hour ago
Carol Faulkner is one of the counter-protesters. Says she's concerned "the Bundys will tear this community apart"


Counter protester crowd growing. Now 35-40 outside Bundy meeting in John Day #Oregonstandoff

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
29. BREAKING NEWS: Ammon Bundy arrested with three fellow militiamen after 'two people were shot' at sit
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:57 PM
Jan 2016

BREAKING NEWS: Ammon Bundy arrested with three fellow militiamen after 'two people were shot' at site of Oregon stand-off


  • Bundy was the leader of the group occupying the government building
  • They took over the property in Burns, Oregon, more than 3 weeks ago

  • By Dailymail.com Reporter and Associated Press

    Published: 21:10 EST, 26 January 2016 | Updated: 21:45 EST, 26 January 2016

    The head of the militia group occupying a government building in Oregon has been arrested, reports claim.

    Ammon Bundy was one of four militiamen to be detained by the FBI on Tuesday evening after shots were fired on the premises, according to Oregon Live.

    Two people were shot, the report claims.

    It comes more than three weeks after Bundy and his associates took over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Burns, Oregon, to protest the incarceration of two ranchers who started fire on federal land.

    More:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3418491/Ammon-Bundy-arrested-three-fellow-militiamen-shots-fired-Oregon-stand-off.html

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    32. Police Reportedly Arrest Rancher Ammon Bundy and Militiamen Occupying Oregon Wildlife Refuge
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:59 PM
    Jan 2016

    Last edited Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:17 AM - Edit history (1)

    Jan. 26 2016 9:41 PM

    Police Reportedly Arrest Rancher Ammon Bundy and Militiamen Occupying Oregon Wildlife Refuge

    Rogue rancher and self-styled strict constructionist, Ammon Bundy was arrested along with other militia members, according to local news reports out of Oregon. KATU News reports shots fired as the militia group was on its way to a meeting. “Highway 395 at the intersection of US 20 north of Burns — not far from the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge — closed in both directions,” KOIN reports.

    Bundy and a group of armed protesters took over the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon more than three weeks ago as a misguided form of protest in support of two other ranchers convicted of arson for conducting a controlled burn on federal property.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/01/26/oregon_rancher_ammon_bundy_and_others_occupying_refuge_reportedly_arrested.html

    blogslut

    (39,161 posts)
    33. Whoa
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:00 PM
    Jan 2016
    http://twitter.com/LesZaitz/status/692179439594135552


    Les ZaitzVerified account
    ‏@LesZaitz
    One dead, six arrested in traffic stop. Ammon Bundy, Ryan Bundy, Ryan Payne in custody.

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    41. Two Bundys headed to the slammer. Hope they can get French Vanilla creamer there. n/t
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:09 PM
    Jan 2016

    Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #41)

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    42. Ammon And Ryan Bundy Arrested In Oregon; One Militant Dies In Shootout With Law Enforcement
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:12 PM
    Jan 2016

    Ammon And Ryan Bundy Arrested In Oregon; One Militant Dies In Shootout With Law Enforcement

    by Aviva Shen Jan 26, 2016 9:19 pm

    Six members of the militia occupying the Malheur National Refuge, including Ammon Bundy, were taken into custody Tuesday night following a shooting nearby, according to the FBI.

    The Harney County District Hospital in Burns, Oregon is on lockdown, and a section of the highway is also closed. The altercation occurred when the militia was on its way to a meeting in John Day, a neighboring town.

    The FBI released a statement confirming that one militant died in a shootout. Another militant sustained “non life-threatening” injuries and was taken to the hospital.

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/26/3743161/bundy-arrested/

    [center]~ ~ ~[/center]
    Official: Ammon Bundy is in custody

    Posted: 8:00 PM, Jan 26, 2016

    Updated: 9 mins ago

    BURNS, Ore. (AP) -- Law enforcement source: Leader of armed Oregon group that had occupied federal site arrested.

    A more than 50-mile stretch of highway in Oregon has been closed near where an armed group has been occupying a national wildlife refuge.

    The Oregon Department of Transportation reported on its website that U.S. 395 was closed between the towns of Burns and John Day on Tuesday evening. The Oregonian reports that there had been a meeting scheduled between some members of the group and local residents in John Day on Tuesday night.

    http://www.kivitv.com/news/official-ammon-bundy-is-in-custody

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    44. Here's the official news release from law enforcement in and around Burns. #Oregonstandoff
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:13 PM
    Jan 2016

    OMG - 460 new tweets

    BREAKING UPDATE: FBI confirms 1 person dead - no details on their identity at this time. #LiveOnK2 #OregonStandoff

    KATU News ‏@KATUNews 45 minutes ago
    UPDATE: Shots fired after FBI agents, OSP made traffic stop - Ammon Bundy & others arrested by Feds. #LiveOnK2 #OregonStandoff

    John Stempin ‏@johnstempin 21s22 seconds ago
    Here's the official news release from law enforcement in and around Burns. #Oregonstandoff

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    45. Ammon Bundy arrested, 1 dead in Oregon, reports say
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:17 PM
    Jan 2016

    Ammon Bundy arrested, 1 dead in Oregon, reports say
    Posted: Jan 26, 2016 8:23 PM CST
    Updated: Jan 26, 2016 9:13 PM CST

    (RNN) – One person is dead and Ammon Bundy and others have been arrested in Oregon, according to multiple media reports.
    Citing law enforcement sources, CNN reports that at least eight people were arrested during a traffic stop on Tuesday. Sources tell CNN shots were fired, but it's not clear who fired first.

    The group of armed activists have occupied a national wildlife refuge in rural Oregon since Jan. 2.

    In a joint statement between the FBI and Oregon State Police, authorities identified the arrested as Ammon Bundy, his brother Ryan Bundy, Brian Cavalier, Shawna Cox and Ryan Waylen Payne.

    Authorities have confirmed one person is dead but would not identify them.

    More:
    http://www.kfvs12.com/story/31064837/ammon-bundy-arrested-1-dead-in-oregon-reports-say

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    46. Update: Oregon standoff meeting interrupted with announcement that altercation stopped speakers
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:26 PM
    Jan 2016

    Update: Oregon standoff meeting interrupted with announcement that altercation stopped speakers
    By Luke Hammill | The Oregonian/OregonLive
    Email the author | Follow on Twitter
    on January 26, 2016 at 6:30 PM, updated January 26, 2016 at 6:47 PM

    Update: George Plaven, a reporter for the East Oregonian in Pendleton, is tweeting from the site of a planned community meeting that was to feature Ammon Bundy and other leaders of the occupation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

    6:06 p.m.: Meeting organizer just announced guest speakers won't be here. "It appears there was an altercation b/t here and Burns." #Oregonstandoff

    6:24 p.m: Quickly devolving into shouting match here. People demanding to know what happened. Room divided in front and back. #Oregonstandoff

    6:25 p.m: Family from KS now praying for Hammonds, militia. Claims to be representatives. She shouted "Someone has been shot!" #Oregonstandoff

    More:
    http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/oregon_standoff_venue_changes.html#incart_story_package

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    49. Bundys in custody, one militant dead after gunfight near Burns
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:30 PM
    Jan 2016

    Bundys in custody, one militant dead after gunfight near Burns
    By Les Zaitz | The Oregonian/OregonLive
    Email the author | Follow on Twitter
    on January 26, 2016 at 6:50 PM, updated January 26, 2016 at 7:26 PM

    BURNS – One militant is dead and the top leaders of the refuge occupation are in police custody after law enforcement officials stopped vehicles Tuesday afternoon about 15 miles north of Burns.

    Ryan Bundy, 43, of Bunkerville, Nev., suffered a minor gunshot wound and was taken into custody in a highway stop conducted by the FBI and the Oregon State Police.

    Also arrested were his brother, Ammon Bundy, 40, of Emmett, Idaho, and Ryan W. Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Mont., Brian Cavalier, 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada, and Shawna J. Cox, 59, of Kanab, Utah. They were charged with conspiracy to impede federal officers, a felony.

    The identity of the person killed in the shootout was not released.

    More:
    http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/bundys_in_custody_one_militant.html#incart_story_package

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    50. 5 arrested, 1 dead in connection with Oregon standoff, FBI says: read the press release
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:32 PM
    Jan 2016

    5 arrested, 1 dead in connection with Oregon standoff, FBI says: read the press release
    By The Oregonian/OregonLive
    Follow on Twitter
    on January 26, 2016 at 6:57 PM, updated January 26, 2016 at 7:08 PM

    The FBI and the Oregon State Police jointly reported five people were arrested and one unnamed person was killed in connection with an occupation at the Malheur National Wild Refuge. Here's the full news release:


    At approximately 4:25 p.m. (PST) on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Oregon State Police (OSP) began an enforcement action to bring into custody a number of individuals associated with the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. During that arrest, there were shots fired.

    One individual who was a subject of a federal probable cause arrest is deceased. We will not be releasing any information about that person pending identification by the medical examiner's office.

    One individual suffered non-life threatening injuries and was transported to a local hospital for treatment. He was arrested and is currently in custody.

    More:
    http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/5_arrested_1_dead_in_connectio.html#incart_story_package

    love_katz

    (3,258 posts)
    51. Thanks for the timely and informative post.
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:39 PM
    Jan 2016
    I hope that law enforcement can clear out the rest of this festering pestilence, now that their leaders are in custody. Thanks again, for all the links.

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    68. #BREAKING: Radio talk show host and militia sympathizer Peter Sanitlli has also been arrested.
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:58 PM
    Jan 2016
    In case you missed it LIVE on his YouTube stream:

    KOIN News ‏@KOINNews 5 minutes ago
    #BREAKING: Radio talk show host and militia sympathizer Peter Sanitlli has also been arrested.
    http://koin.com/2016/01/26/malheur-militia-law-enforcement-01262016/

    ... Shots were fired after FBI agents, Oregon State Police and other authorities made the stop. It’s not clear who fired first, CBS News confirmed. ...
    Along with the Bundy brothers — Ammon, 40, from Emmett, Idaho and Ryan, 43, from Bunkerville, Nevada — the FBI and OSP took into custody:

    Brian Cavalier, 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada; Shawna Cox, 59, Kanab, Utah; and Ryan Waylen Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Montana in the traffic stop along Highway 395 late Tuesday afternoon.

    A sixth person, 45-year-old Joseph Donald O’Shaughnessy of Cottonwood, Arizona, was arrested by the OSP in a separate incident in Burns, officials said.

    Each person arrested faces a federal felony charge of conspiracy to impede US officers from “discharging their official duties through the use of force, intimidation, or threats, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 372.”
    [center]

    Brent Weisberg ‏@BrentKOIN 11 minutes ago
    Recap of what we know following a shooting in Harney County.
    http://koin.com/2016/01/26/malheur-militia-law-enforcement-01262016/ … #KOIN6News #Oregonstandoff

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    79. Peter Sanitlli is a poisonous man. It's good news he gets to join his ugly buddies. n/t
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:20 AM
    Jan 2016

    passiveporcupine

    (8,175 posts)
    52. Oh dear...he seemed almost rational.
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:40 PM
    Jan 2016
    The identity of the person killed in the shootout was not released by authorities, but the daughter of Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, 55, of Arizona, said her father was to be part of the entourage going to John Day.


    Fiore, a vocal supporter of the Bunday family, said that Ammon Bundy told his wife that Finicum was cooperating with police and had put his hands up. Then, Fiore said, Bundy told his wife that he watched police shoot Finicum three times. She said that Ammon Bundy also said Finicum was on the ground when he was shot.


    Several hours later, Jon Ritzheimer, a key militant leader, surrendered to police on the conspiracy charge.


    http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/bundys_in_custody_one_militant.html#incart_maj-story-1

    passiveporcupine

    (8,175 posts)
    58. Yeah, but he kept stressing that nobody wanted to shoot anyone.
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:44 PM
    Jan 2016

    He kept pushing for calm and peace.

    Oh god...there were some who were threatening to kill and avenge themselves and this peace guy gets killed? The world doesn't seem fair sometimes.

    See what guns get you? Idiots.

    FailureToCommunicate

    (14,599 posts)
    61. "This peace guy"? He sat there with his rifle...under a tarp
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:47 PM
    Jan 2016

    You shoot at federal agents and they are likely to shoot back.

    Doesn't sound so peaceful to me.

    passiveporcupine

    (8,175 posts)
    63. They were all walking around with guns
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:50 PM
    Jan 2016

    Even when the cameras were taken down, some said they wanted to keep them and Finnicum said he was going to give them to the FBI if they showed up for them.

    I am not saying he was a good guy here. I'm just saying he was not puffing himself up saying he wanted to kill some FBI dudes like some of the others did. He kept trying to talk everyone down to be calmer.

    But maybe that was just his surface demeanor. Maybe when they got stopped he became more aggressive.

    polly7

    (20,582 posts)
    69. I agree with you, I feel sad that he died for such stupidity.
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:59 PM
    Jan 2016

    They were imo a terror group, but like you say ... he did seem the most rational. Sad when anyone dies, so damned pointless.

    cheapdate

    (3,811 posts)
    87. You've got more compassion for him than I do.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:38 AM
    Jan 2016

    Finicum told a reporter earlier this month that he'd "rather be killed than be arrested by the FBI." He was a very dangerous fanatic who brought this on himself.

    polly7

    (20,582 posts)
    89. Yes, he put himself in that position but still ..... he has those who cared about him. nt.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:42 AM
    Jan 2016

    cheapdate

    (3,811 posts)
    97. I'm not a saint. I don't wish any suffering on his family.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:53 AM
    Jan 2016

    But Finicum and his companions were very dangerous fanatics whose continued presence virtually guarantees that they will commit, or inspire other to commit, deadly violence. It was his and his fellows rigid commitment to violence that forced the situation.

    polly7

    (20,582 posts)
    100. That is true, I don't disagree at all. They were intent on causing violence at some point. nt.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:03 AM
    Jan 2016

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    88. No way should anyone believe a word Bundy would say. The agents would absolutely not be interested
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:40 AM
    Jan 2016

    in shooting someone for no reason, knowing they were all crouching in hopes of getting to provoke an incident they could use to fire up their ugly rabble of murderous racist halfwits.

    That just wouldn't happen. That's what they were all gathered there together to bring to life, a dreadful event which would immortalize them, like the other stupid ones among them, like the creep at Ruby Ridge.

    Don't look for wiser people than they to step into their stupid trap.

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    53. Police at roadblock between Burns and John Day on edge, heavily armed
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:40 PM
    Jan 2016

    [center]Elliot Njus Verified account ‏@enjus 1 minute ago
    Police at roadblock between Burns and John Day on edge, heavily armed
    http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/56_miles_of_highway_closed_bet.html … #Oregonstandoff


    One and one-half hours after DU:
    The New York Times ‏@nytimes 9 minutes ago
    Breaking News: The leaders of an antigovernment standoff in Oregon have been arrested and one person has been killed
    http://nyti.ms/1lQqdQ4

    Marcus Gilmer ‏@marcusgilmer 19 minutes ago
    LaVoy Finicum to @NBCNews on Jan 6: I'd take death over jail -
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oregon-occupier-lavoy-finicum-warns-fbi-he-d-take-death-n491056



     

    OldRedneck

    (1,397 posts)
    54. Blue Tarp guy dead?
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:40 PM
    Jan 2016

    Raw Story is reporting the Blue Trap guy -- Lavon Finicum or something like that -- is dead. He's the one who lost all his income with the state took foster kids away from him.

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    64. Apparently, he got his wish. He's not on the arrested list.
    Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:51 PM
    Jan 2016

    Last edited Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:30 AM - Edit history (1)

    always vote ‏@always_vote 3 minutes ago
    v/ Livestream Deb says she's learned Santilli will be held on same charges "as everyone else".
    Finicum shot 3x #OregonStandoff #BundyMilitia

    Kieran Suckling @KieranSuckling Retweeted JJ MacNab
    Finicum was always armed, spoke/wrote often of dying in gunfight. Wrote novel with this ending. #Oregonstandoff

    Kieran Suckling ‏@KieranSuckling Executive Director, Center for Biological Diversity. biologicaldiversity.org
    8:15 All our people out of the refuge and at safe location now. Camp Malheur empty tonight. #Oregonstandoff @CenterForBioDiv

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    91. Bet he was a heck of a novelist, too. Or maybe not. Finicum, we hardly knew ye outside the tarp. n/t
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:45 AM
    Jan 2016

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    92. That went fast, didn't it? They waited so long, could have turned back at any time. n/t
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:46 AM
    Jan 2016

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    98. Amazing. Everyone probably expected he was going to stay right there under the tarp with his gun.n/t
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:53 AM
    Jan 2016

    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    99. I'm thanking L. Coyote, who broke the story at D.U. I nearly swallowed my tongue when I saw it.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:54 AM
    Jan 2016

    I really expected it would just fade away, and they would still be free to plan more of this crap, as they did the last time!

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    73. Apparently, Ritzheimer has been asked to turn himself in to the FBI.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:13 AM
    Jan 2016

    JJ MacNab ‏@jjmacnab 14 minutes ago
    Ritzheimer posts a video saying goodbye to his children. I assume he is going to turn himself in. Poor little girls.
    https://www.facebook.com/scrappyphx.rider/videos/474428609411611/
    "Jon Ritzheimer
    I came home to visit my family. The Feds know I am here and are asking me to turn myself in. ..."

    517 new resutls for #OregonStandoff

    polly7

    (20,582 posts)
    74. This feed is crazy!
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:14 AM
    Jan 2016
    http://www.nothiefsallowed.org/

    Live feed for the militants/terrorists/whatever they are.

    The kids are still in the refuge.

    Live shots heard somewhere else.

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    81. Just as crazy as Santilli's YouTube feed. They say Bundy told his wife yatta yatta ....
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:21 AM
    Jan 2016

    They can put all the spin they want on this, the FBI certainly has it on film.

    polly7

    (20,582 posts)
    84. Yes.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:24 AM
    Jan 2016

    One caller 'Ranger' just said something about a possible second fatality. There are a lot of them calling in ... don't seem to be communicating with one another very well.

    csziggy

    (34,189 posts)
    75. Joint Statement by the FBI and Oregon State Police
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:14 AM
    Jan 2016

    Joint Statement by the FBI and Oregon State Police on Law Enforcement Activity Near Burns, Oregon
    FBI Portland January 26, 2016

    Beth Anne Steele (503) 460-8099

    At approximately 6:30 p.m. (PST), the FBI arrested Peter Santilli, age 50, of Cincinnati, Ohio, in Burns, Oregon. He faces the same federal felony charge as the individuals listed below. The arrest was without incident.

    At approximately 4:25 p.m. (PST) on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Oregon State Police (OSP) began an enforcement action to bring into custody a number of individuals associated with the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. During that arrest, there were shots fired.

    One individual who was a subject of a federal probable cause arrest is deceased. We will not be releasing any information about that person pending identification by the medical examiner’s office.

    One individual suffered non-life threatening injuries and was transported to a local hospital for treatment. He was arrested and is currently in custody.

    The arrested individuals include:

    Ammon Edward Bundy, age 40, of Emmett, Idaho
    Ryan C. Bundy, age 43, of Bunkerville, Nevada
    Brian Cavalier, age 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada
    Shawna Cox, age 59, Kanab, Utah
    Ryan Waylen Payne, age 32, of Anaconda, Montana

    These probable cause arrests occurred along Highway 395.

    In a separate event in Burns, Oregon, at approximately 5:50 p.m., Oregon State Police arrested the following individual:

    Joseph Donald O’Shaughnessy, age 45, Cottonwood, Arizona

    All of the named defendants face a federal felony charge of conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties through the use of force, intimidation, or threats, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 372.

    We continue to work with Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward and his deputies; Oregon State Police; and the United States Attorney’s Office to address any further outstanding issues. As the investigation is ongoing, we cannot comment further at this time.

    All defendants should be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
    https://www.fbi.gov/portland/press-releases/2016/joint-statement-by-the-fbi-and-oregon-state-police-on-law-enforcement-activity-near-burns-oregon

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    117. Further statements = Updates.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:51 AM
    Jan 2016

    Additional Arrest Made in Arizona Related to the Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge - Joint Statement by the FBI and OSP - 01/26/16
    At 8:30 p.m. (PST) on Tuesday, January 26, 2016, the Federal Bureau of Investigation's (FBI) Phoenix Division made a probable cause arrest of Jon Eric Ritzheimer, age 32, on a federal charge related to the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Harney County, Oregon. Ritzheimer turned himself into the Peoria, Arizona, police department. The arrest was without incident.

    Ritzheimer faces one federal felony charge of conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties through the use of force, intimidation, or threats, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 372.

    UPDATE AS OF 8:40 P.M.
    From the initial law enforcement action site along Highway 395: There were additional people who were detained and have since been released.

    UPDATE AS OF 7:45 P.M.
    At approximately 6:30 p.m. (PST), the FBI arrested Peter Santilli, age 50, of Cincinnati, Ohio, in Burns, Oregon. He faces the same federal felony charge as the individuals listed below. The arrest was without incident.

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    78. Cliven Bundy said: "He's sacrificed for a good purpose."
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:18 AM
    Jan 2016

    Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 39m39 minutes ago

    My story on the militia arrests. Here's what Cliven Bundy said when I told what happened.
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-oregon-standoff-20160126-story.html

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    82. And it also appears the sheriff everyone criticized may have led them into a trap.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:22 AM
    Jan 2016

    Away from the children at the refuge.

    flamingdem

    (40,886 posts)
    107. exactly - they fell for the "meeting" ruse
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:47 AM
    Jan 2016

    I think that it was tried many ways before they all went together somehow "trusting" that it was a fine thing to do..

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    118. And then up at high elevation, between the snow banks, ...
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:00 AM
    Jan 2016

    Smooth plan, all in all, away from the human shields.

    You know your revolution is in the toilet when your one streamer, a co-conspirator, gets arrested live on his own show, and dumbfounded, you broadcast dead air for two hours.

    Joan ‏@Anthr0p0m0rph 6 minutes ago
    Oregon has experience dealing with selfish wackos coming in - how many remember these insane events? #Oregonstandoff
    http://www.oregonlive.com/rajneesh/index.ssf/2011/04/part_one_it_was_worse_than_we.html

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    90. "everyone is spreading the rumor ... (Bundy) called his wife from the backseat of a cop car
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:44 AM
    Jan 2016

    [center]Saint Expedite ‏@saintexp 2 minutes ago
    Woman on Pete Santilli's YouTube feed just now: "I gotta go call the Rutherford Institute" #Oregonstandoff

    Live Jive ‏@thejiving
    Continuous updates from #Burns #OregonFront #Oregonstandoff
    https://readfomag.com/2016/01/breaking-ammon-bundy-in-fbi-custody/ … #LavoyFinicum deceased, two others hospitalized.

    Julie Spears ‏@plant_ecologist
    #Oregonstandoff also interesting that everyone is spreading the rumor that he called his wife from the backseat of a cop car

    This guy is going to be arrested too, calling for arms! Prayer won't help now, reality just happened.
    Miles Robinson ‏@oddfox
    #OregonStandoff Secessionists at the refuge aren't leaving, they are calling for more fighters. Not over.



    Anonymous ‏@C0d3fr0sty 8 minutes ago
    Lotta weapons... Malheur National Wildlife Refuge Center -- video from inside the #Oregonstandoff


    Judi Lynn

    (164,122 posts)
    95. Not willing to give up their big chance, are they? They may not find it as easy to do again.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:51 AM
    Jan 2016

    Thanks for news of this continuing unanticipated weirdness from these guys.

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    101. Jon Ritzheimer in federal custody. Handed himself in
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:06 AM
    Jan 2016

    [center]Cornelia ‏@PaladinCornelia 6 minutes ago
    When you VOW TO DIE rather than go to jail...
    You know what? You sometimes get your wish!

    Caz ‏@MissDBunker 59 seconds ago
    Jon Ritzheimer in federal custody. Handed himself in #Oregonstandoff

    UPDATE (8:35 p.m.) Multiple sources report that Robert “LaVoy” Finicum was shot and killed by law enforcement officers.

    UPDATE (8:25 p.m.) Oregon State Police says the Deschutes County Major Incident Team will assist the police department and the Harney County District Attorney’s Office with an investigation into Tuesday’s officer-involved shooting near Burns. The investigation will be conducted in compliance with Senate Bill 111 which outlines protocols to be followed when deadly physical force is used, police say.

    UPDATE: (8:17 p.m.) An individual who suffered non-life threatening injuries and was transported to a local hospital for treatment has been arrested and is in FBI custody.
    [center]




    Mendocino

    (8,491 posts)
    103. There are all sorts of spin stories about Finicum.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:12 AM
    Jan 2016

    Each one gets more delusional; he was unarmed, he had his hands up, then he was on his knees, he was face down and handcuffed before being shot. The conspiracy starts, can you imagine how unhinged lunatics like Alex Jones will go into overdrive.

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    105. CNN says 2 people didn't obey orders to surrender - LaVoy Finicum, who was killed, and Ryan Bundy
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:41 AM
    Jan 2016

    They really are delusional to think Bundy was making phone calls from the police cruiser.
    New white privilege rule, terrorists get phones to call friends and family after shootouts ....[center]

    Emin Nabiyev ‏@NabiyevEmin 31 minutes ago
    The FBI & people of #Oregon have been incredibly tolerant of Ammon Bundy & his #Oregonstandoff clowns. #goodriddance



    KTVZ NewsChannel 21 @KTVZ
    CNN says 2 people didn't obey orders to surrender - LaVoy Finicum, who was killed, and Ryan Bundy, who was wounded http://ow.ly/XzJKN

    Rebecca Woolington ‏@rwoolington
    Update w/ video by @JessicaDGreif: Pete Santilli, self-styled journalist, among the arrested by FBI
    http://s.oregonlive.com/QseSK4g #Oregonstandoff

    publius ‏@yakendo
    #Oregonstandoff Unfolding Here's A Quick Domestic Terrorism Update: Meet Fake Patriot Klueless Klown Kliven #Bundy
    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/05/462022130/as-oregon-situation-unfolds-heres-a-quick-update-on-cliven-bundy

    KOIN News ‏@KOINNews 6 minutes ago
    Oregon Governor Kate Brown releases statement regarding #OregonStandoff:
    http://koin.com/2016/01/26/malheur-militia-law-enforcement-01262016/

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    104. "WSJ, report from officials ... cars stopped for arrest, person in car pulled gun and began firing"
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:30 AM
    Jan 2016

    [center]kriselda gray ‏@lyssandri 25 minutes ago
    #Oregonstandoff per WSJ, report from officials is when cars stopped for arrest, person In car pulled gun and began firing at law enforcement

    Get all our live updates here on the developing news on #OregonStandoff:
    http://s.oregonlive.com/WRt1Mlb @Oregonian

    Gene Johnson ‏@GeneAPseattle
    Arrest total now up to eight in #OregonStandoff. Feds say another arrest was made in Arizona.

    Cabe Silverhame ‏@cabeaux
    “Sometimes we make dumb choices” -LaVoy Finicum. Guess he wasn't using the impersonal 'we' after all. #Oregonstandoff #bundymilitia



    Jim Sutherland ‏@maybejewish
    Hard to believe the guy who said he wouldn't be taken alive was not taken alive. #Oregonstandoff

    Kieran Suckling ‏@KieranSuckling 24 minutes ago
    Our people saw no exodus from compound as of 8pm. Only PPN decamped from Narrows after FBI call. #Oregonstandoff



    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    109. OregonGovBrown responds to arrest of "unlawful occupiers" #OregonStandoff
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:58 AM
    Jan 2016

    [center]The Oregonian ‏@Oregonian 2 minutes ago
    .@OregonGovBrown responds to arrest of "unlawful occupiers" #OregonStandoff http://bit.ly/20rRb0f


    Bill Clunie ‏@billclunie
    Finicum: "I have no intention of spending any of my days in a concrete box." #Oregonstandoff
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oregon-occupier-lavoy-finicum-warns-fbi-he-d-take-death-n491056



    TimeTraveler ‏@TimeTraveler6 2 minutes ago
    Yes,yes,yes #Ammonbundy "reporting" what happened. Live tweeting in handcuffs. Ppl are so fucking stupid. #Oregonstandoff #stupidfucks

    ✠Volkssturm 45卐 ‏@TotalWar45 Retweeted goddamnedfrank
    Because Lavoy stood up for freedom like the founding fathers, he wasn't some coon who wanted cigars. #Oregonstandoff

    goddamnedfrank ‏@goddamnedfrank
    White privilege is publicly vowing never to be taken alive & STILL having people try to sell the idea police murdered you. #Oregonstandoff

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    114. USC TITLE 18 - Sec. 372. Conspiracy to impede or injure officer
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:24 AM
    Jan 2016

    TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
    PART I - CRIMES
    CHAPTER 19 - CONSPIRACY

    Sec. 372. Conspiracy to impede or injure officer

    STATUTE

    If two or more persons in any State, Territory, Possession, or
    District conspire to prevent, by force, intimidation, or threat,
    any person from accepting or holding any office, trust, or place of
    confidence under the United States, or from discharging any duties
    thereof, or to induce by like means any officer of the United
    States to leave the place, where his duties as an officer are
    required to be performed, or to injure him in his person or
    property on account of his lawful discharge of the duties of his
    office, or while engaged in the lawful discharge thereof, or to
    injure his property so as to molest, interrupt, hinder, or impede
    him in the discharge of his official duties, each of such persons
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six
    years, or both.
    [center]


    I don't know this source:

    LibertyNEWS.com ‏@liberty 3 minutes ago
    Heavy armor FBI convoy en route to Oregon refuge from Burns Municipal Airport. #oregonstandoff







    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    115. In Burns, OR after Ammon Bundy arrest, assault vehicles, LEOs in full battle-rattle.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:31 AM
    Jan 2016

    Last edited Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:43 AM - Edit history (1)

    Looks to me as if the FBI made it home safely from their intercept of the #BundyMilitia.
    Freepers are spinning their usual delusions, painting their bubble with paranoia.
    Some wacko posted that a hundred of these departed the airport for the refuge.
    So lots of wackos are reposting that rumor. Lots of rumor making going on.


    Arun Gupta ‏@arunindy 7 minutes ago
    In Burns, OR after Ammon Bundy arrest, assault vehicles, LEOs in full battle-rattle. Assault on Malheur militants?


    20 minutes ago
    ASault may be in works on Malheur militants after Ammon Bundy arrest, FBI, OR St police assault vehicle gassing up.


    Anyone know which police agencies use these vehicles? Lotta activity in Burns, OR after Ammon Bundy arrest.


    After Ammon Bundy takedown, military convoy in Burns, may be moving on militants in Malheur.


    2 hours ago
    I was minutes behind Ammon Bundy on the highway after the feds took him and his lieutenants down.
    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/raw-storys-arun-gupta-caught-up-in-same-trap-that-snared-oregon-militants/comments/#disqus

     

    happyslug

    (14,779 posts)
    122. No License plate, probally US Army or National Guard trucks left over from the War in Ieaq
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:04 AM
    Jan 2016

    Federal "Cars" by Civilian Agencies generally have some sort of License plate, even US recruiters cars have such plates. On the other hand actual vehicles intended to actual military use carry numbers not plates. Photos are NOT good enough to see what if any numbers are on the trucks. Some of these vehicles have been given to local Police:



    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/not-your-typical-police-car-military-vehicles-put-to-new-use-back-in-the-us/



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRAP

    Now, these appear to be PRE-MRAP US Armored vehicles. No V -Haul for mine resistance for example.

    You must understand the three generation of Armored whelled vehicles in Iraq:

    Generation one: Up-armored Humvees. Humvees were NEVER designed to carry armor and putting armor on them reduce their over all capacity. Armored Humvees were viewed as a stop Gap in the early years of the guerrilla war in Iraq. The Un-armored Humvees did an excellent job during the invasion of Iraq, they did the jobs their were designed for General Transport and supply. , The problem was when that war was over and the Guerrilla War started, patrols in unarmored Humvees became dangerous, for they wer targets of the Guerrillas. Out of these attacks came the push to increase the armor on such Humvees, a stop-gap solution at best. It was proposed by some in Iraq to bring back the M113 tracked Vehicles for such patrols. This proposal was dismissed out of hand. While the troops in the field asked for the M113, no one in the Pentagon were pushing for their use. The main reason for NOT using the M113 were that the M113 tracks need replaced every 2000 miles of use (as compared to 20,000 to 50,000 miles when it came to rubber tires on a trucks) and increase fuel consumption. While this was the REASON given for NOT using the M113, it appears the real reason was the M113 was already in stock and no contractors were needed to get them ready for use.

    Generation Two - The first attempt to provide armored wheeled vehicles to the Troops, used Medium Duty trucks frames with increase armor, engine and transmissions. This was NOT intended as a stop gap but a solution to the problems with Armor on Humvees. Problems with the designed were noted even before any were built. South African had an extensive history with IEDs (Individual Explosive Devices) and found a V-shape haul is best for deflecting the blast away from the troops inside the Vehicle. None of these Second Generation Armored Vehicles had this design, all were enclosed boxes. Good protection against small arms and RPGs, but terrible against mines and other IEDs and it was later that the troops in Iraq faced.

    Generation Three: These are the MRAPs mentioned above, all have V-shaped hauls and all built since 2007.

    These trucks look like Generation Two Armored Vehicles, Vehicles the US Army no long want for they are inferior to the Humvee when in comes to the roles the Humvee perform in the US Army (General Transport) AND inferior to the MRAPs that replaced them where armored trucks are needed,

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    121. AM Update. Still dark in Oregon, first light beginning. Authorities sealed off refuge overnight.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:47 AM
    Jan 2016
    Authorities seal off Oregon refuge after leaders of occupation arrested. 1 killed in gunfire.
    By Sarah Kaplan January 27 at 8:50 AM

    After an exchange of gunfire Tuesday that left one man dead and another injured, the two brothers who orchestrated the armed occupation of a remote central Oregon wildlife refuge were taken into custody while traveling outside the area, along with six of their followers.

    Then, early Wednesday the government shut down the area, initiating what authorities called a “containment” with checkpoints and promising to arrest any unauthorized people attempting to travel into the refuge.

    The purpose, according to a statement from the FBI and Oregon State Police was “to better ensure the safety of community members and law enforcement.” Earlier, they had asked people to leave the area, but there was little sign that the remaining occupiers had done so, setting up the possibility of police action later in the day.

    The Oregonian said that a convoy of police rigs, passenger cars and armored vehicles was seen driving south on Oregon Route 205, past the turn-off for the refuge. Other convoys also were reported in the area. .....
    [center]



    Oregon standoff spokesman Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum killed, Bundys in custody after shooting near Burns
    By Les Zaitz | The Oregonian/OregonLive ---- January 26, 2016 at 6:50 PM, updated January 27, 2016 at 6:03 AM

    ...Authorities did not release the name of the person who died at the highway stop, but Finicum's daughter confirmed it was Finicum, 55, of Cane Beds, Arizona, one of the cowboy-hat wearing faces of the takeover.

    .... The highway was blocked for a 40-mile stretch between Burns and John Day. Police were stationed near Seneca, a small city of 200 south of John Day, with long guns. They said they didn't know how long the roadblock would be place. ....
    [center]

    HGTomato ‏@HGTomato 8 minutes ago
    #Oregonstandoff


    VICE News Verified account ‏@vicenews 12 minutes ago
    Looking back at the faces and frozen landscapes of the #Oregonstandoff See more here: http://bit.ly/1Sj77in


    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    124. FBI is not allowing media inside the checkpoints. @JohnLGC and @Bradley_W_Parks are inside
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:50 AM
    Jan 2016

    Ryan Haas ‏@ryanjhaas 1 hour ago
    Just so y'all know. FBI is not allowing media inside the checkpoints.
    @JohnLGC and @Bradley_W_Parks are one of the few journos on the inside

    John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 2 hours ago
    we're all safe -- outside the compound, inside the refuge. we're about a fifth of a mile from the main compound

    Bradley W. Parks ‏@Bradley_W_Parks 2 hours ago
    Setting: It's dark. It's bone-chilling cold. So much is happening, but the silence is deafening. #OregonStandoff

    John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 3 hours ago
    i just spoke to the new leaders -- including jason patrick - They say that 5-6 ppl had a meeting, and by consensus they decided to stay. 1/2
    they will not leave, "we're not cowards like the rest," say they're prepared to die. 2/2 #MalheurOccupation

    John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 45 minutes ago Oregon, USA
    ok, we finished our file upload to @MorningEdition so we can go report now. send your q's and we'll try to answer next time we're around.

    John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC
    FBI dressed like military. think Baghdad, not Burns

    That Ninja @MacSmiff
    Really proud of @JohnLGC for his coverage of the Burns situation. He should get an award or something.

    John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC
    for real, I'd take toilet paper at this point.


    John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 3 hours ago
    the fbi has surrounded all roads to the refuge -- meaning a handful of militants and media are inside. 1/3
    the fbi has not indicated when they will move -- i'm hearing ppl can leave the perimeter with id and a vehicle search 2/3
    .@OPB is going to cover the checkpoints, media partner @KGWNews will monitor the gates. we'll update here every hour. #planfornow

    John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 3 hours ago
    Hunt called McVeigh the first patriot of the Second American Revolution

    John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 4 hours ago
    road is open so ppl can still leave peacefully, patrick is frustrated. i'm here and don't see a ton of action.

    Ryan Haas ‏@ryanjhaas 4 hours ago
    Ammon Bundy and others arrested tonight in #Oregonstandoff have been booked into Portland jail. h/t @bkerensa

    John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 8 hours ago Burns, OR
    I'm not going to be tweeting as we cover the perimeter set up - follow @Bradley_W_Parks for the latest.

    Bradley W. Parks ‏@Bradley_W_Parks 10 hours ago
    Law enforcement holding presser at 10:30 tomorrow morning. Other @OPB reporters and I will, of course, be there. Follow. #OregonStandoff

    I'm listening to local OPB station: http://klcc.org/
    Interview coming up with OPB journalist on the scene, John Sepulvado @JohnLGC
    news @opb

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    125. Oregonian: Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum shot and killed while charging police, driver says
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:11 PM
    Jan 2016
    Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum shot and killed while charging police, driver says
    By Les Zaitz | The Oregonian/OregonLive January 27, 2016

    BURNS – Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, the spokesman of the refuge occupation, was shot and killed after he charged police during a roadside stop north of Burns on Tuesday, according to a man on Facebook who claims to be the driver of one of two vehicles involved in the highway shooting.

    Mark McConnell posted a video to Facebook Wednesday morning, recounting the Tuesday afternoon scene that led to Finicum's death ......

    In his video, McConnell said Ammon Bundy and Cavalier were in the vehicle he was driving to John Day for a community meeting. He said Finicum was driving a pickup that carried Ryan Bundy, Payne, Cox and an 18-year-old girl.

    He said as they traveled on U.S. 395 police vehicles pulled in behind them and stopped them. McConnell said he was removed by police first, then Ammon Bundy then Cavalier.

    He said Finicum's pickup was stopped about 200 yards away, and one passenger already was on the ground in handcuffs.

    McConnell said Payne and Cox later recounted how Payne and Finicum got into a "heated discussion" about what to do.

    "LaVoy was passionate about this, about the movement," McConnell said.

    McConnell said he noticed movement, and Finicum "took off" in the pickup with the remaining passengers. ....
    [CENTER]

    ========== NEXT THREAD ===========
    Follow the next thread for updates: Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum shot and killed while charging police, driver says

    Meanwhile, on Twitter #Oregonstandoff feed, 1,087 new results and Ammon Bundy trending with 70.8K Tweets. [center]

    Beth Nakamura ‏@bethnakamura 20 minutes ago
    Serious law enforcement presence in paramilitary getup block off entry to refuge. #Oregonstandoff

    39° in Bend at 8:30 am.

    ###

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    126. FBI releases statement saying response was 'deliberate and measured'
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:28 PM
    Jan 2016

    Oregon standoff: FBI releases statement saying response was 'deliberate and measured'
    By The Oregonian/OregonLive January 27, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    The FBI released this statement Wednesday morning on the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge outside of Burns:

    Good morning. My name is Greg Bretzing, and I am the Special Agent in Charge for the FBI in Oregon.

    For the past month, the FBI -- along with our partners at the Harney County Sheriff's Office, Oregon State Police and the many other federal and local agencies -- have had a very deliberate and measured response. We worked diligently to bring the situation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge to a peaceful end. Some of those actions were seen, some unseen. But, because this is an on-going investigation with some armed individuals illegally remaining in the refuge, we cannot get into details as to every action tried or taken.

    I will say that the armed occupiers were given ample opportunities to leave peacefully. They were given the opportunity to negotiate. As outsiders to Oregon, they were given the opportunity to return to their homes and have their grievances heard through legal and appropriate means. They chose, instead, to threaten the very America they profess to love with violence, intimidation and criminal acts.

    Yesterday, the FBI and our partners took the necessary actions to start bringing this situation to an end. We worked to ensure that we could do so in the safest way possible -- removing the threat of danger from innocent citizens. We continue to work to empty the refuge of the armed occupiers in the safest way possible.

    Eight people were arrested, and one man died yesterday as we attempted to take him into custody. Because there is an on-going investigation by the Deschutes County Major Crimes Team on behalf of OSP related to this piece of the investigation, I will not be able to comment on the specifics.

    I would, however, ask for your patience as the shooting investigation works its way through that outside process. At the appropriate time, the Medical Examiner's office will release the decedent's identity, and OSP will address the details of the event.

    Let me be clear: It is fully and unequivocally the behavior and the choices made by the armed occupiers that have led us to where we are today. And, as the FBI and our partners have demonstrated, actions are not without consequences.
    Containment road blocks are now in place around the Refuge. The disruption that the good people of Harney County have had to endure over the last few months will continue -- for now.

    If the people at the refuge want to leave, they can do so through the checkpoints where they will be identified. If they have questions or concerns, they can call the negotiators at the number that has been provided to them.

    As I conclude I want to share my promise to the people who live and work here -- who are raising their families here - that we will continue to look for safe, peaceful and productive ways to end this armed occupation. We recognize that the sooner we do that, the sooner the citizens of Harney County can start healing this community they cherish so much.

    Thank you.


    ***

    U.S. Attorney for Oregon Bill Williams released this statement:

    Good Morning. My name is Bill Williams, and I am the U.S. Attorney for Oregon.
    I have been coming to Harney County on behalf of the US Attorney's Office for the last 15 years.

    I am keenly aware of the concerns that are important to this community. I have seen first-hand the passion that folks in this community have for the way of life that is so special. Clearly, this has been disrupted by this armed occupation.

    The FBI, the Harney County Sheriff's Office, OSP, Oregon Sheriff's Association, and numerous law enforcement agencies from around the state have been working very hard to resolve this situation in a peaceful manner, to stop the threats to public safety, and to end the significant disruption this has caused to the people of this county.

    We continue working towards resolution, and will do so with the primary goal of restoring normalcy to this community, and highlighting the already existing cooperative efforts of local and federal partners in addressing their own issues.

    There are currently eight people in custody -- seven in Oregon and one in Arizona. They will all make an initial appearance before a federal magistrate today. At some time in the future, the defendant in Arizona will come to Oregon for future court proceedings.

    As the FBI announced last night, these eight people were arrested for the federal felony offense of "conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties through the use of force, intimidation, or threats."

    This is an ongoing investigation, and we will not be commenting on the case, instead we will let the publicly filed documents in the case speak for themselves.

    In closing, I want to thank the federal, state, local, and tribal law enforcement officers and agents who are working very well together to support this community and this effort.

    I also want to again thank the people of Harney County for their patience...and their passion for returning this community to normalcy.

    We will continue working around the clock until this matter is appropriately resolved.


    Someone please get these gentlemen some #MentalHealth assistance.: ...youtube.com/watch?..… #OregonStandoff #Oregon #SinglePayer #Healthcare

    Dr Who? ‏@flynorcal 2 minutes ago
    Man, that doomsday preppers show is full of lies, eh? These guys don't have shit.. #Oregonstandoff

    Grant County resident witnessed arrests of occupation leaders at FBI roadblock

    .... He watched the detainment of the people who were traveling in the rear vehicle of the Bundy caravan. ...
    Then Hannibal sat on the side of the road and watched from afar, taking photos. ....
    Hannibal stayed there well into the night; they eventually let him drive through the scene. He was told there was a dead body ahead. ....

    etherealtruth

    (22,165 posts)
    128. You have done an incredible job keeping us all informed.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:45 PM
    Jan 2016

    your info has been accurate and way ahead of media reports.

    Thank you

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    137. Thanks. Maybe ahead of news reports, but coming from the media reporter tweets.
    Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:16 AM
    Jan 2016

    The advantage here is aggregation of what media reporters and everyone who tweets reports in real time, crowd sourcing the news live. Learning Twitter too, good search capability and one can follow reporters, et.al.

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    130. Live: Remaining occupiers broadcast from inside Malheur National Wildlife Refuge
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:48 PM
    Jan 2016
    Live: [link:http://|Remaining occupiers broadcast from inside Malheur National Wildlife Refuge]
    By Jessica Greif | The Oregonian/OregonLive January 27, 2016 at 2:01 PM

    ... the remaining occupiers are still holding their ground ... somehow have maintained enough Internet bandwidth to continue streaming video ....

    In one segment of a live broadcast that clearly appears to have been made within the refuge Tuesday morning, at least three armed occupiers kept watch for law enforcement.

    "They're coming to kill us," one said into the camera as hundreds watched and commented on the YouTube stream.

    .... FBI agent in charge Greg Bretzing said in a news conference Wednesday morning that they "continue to work to empty the refuge of those who continue to illegally occupy...in safest way possible."


    Ed Schultz ‏@NewswithEd 10 minutes ago
    After #OregonStandoff: Latest on community recovery & more on arrests #newswithEd at 8pm EST http://bit.ly/1QZNvNu

    National Center ‏@NationalCenter 13 minutes ago
    Liberal activists, mainstream media, law enforcement bear partial blame for #OregonStandoff
    http://ln.is/nationalcenter.org/gPsrL … #tcot @KieranSuckling

    Matt Janovic ‏@MJanovic 14 minutes ago South Bend, IN
    Cliven Bundy should be held responsible for what's happened in Oregon. #Oregonstandoff

    HKS ‏@hksbks 15 minutes ago
    Incidentally, has anyone coined the #hastag "#RedneckCam" for the odd live footage coming out of #OregonStandoff? If not - BING! 🙌 Done.

    This may be the most important tweet in America today.
    Perhaps we should consider how we are poisoning ourselves given how people are behaving.

    Cup Cake ‏@GiveMeSprinkles 17 minutes ago
    I think this #OregonStandoff guy has been drinking that Flint water.

    KGW News ‏@KGWNews 18 minutes ago
    Rancher killed during traffic stop vowed to die before jail http://on.kgw.com/1PjXcs2 #Oregonstandoff

    Paul Joncich ‏@pjoncich 23 minutes ago
    Briana Bundy reacts to #Oregonstandoff outside Bundy compound in #bunkerville #8NN @4,5 and 6pm


    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    131. Before he was arrested, militant pondered on how #Oregonstandoff would end - VIDEO
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:11 PM
    Jan 2016

    [center]

    Cristina Rayas ‏@CRayas 13 minutes ago
    Before he was arrested, militant pondered on how #Oregonstandoff would end @mcclatchydc
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/article56842548.html [center]
    [/center]

    Two days before the arrests of the leaders of the Oregon Standoff, the Idaho Statesmen reporter, Rocky Barker, spoke with Militia member Joseph Donald O'Shaughnessy about his thoughts on how the occupation would end. He was arrested separately in Burns, OR on January 26th, 2016.
    [center]

    Mashable News Verified account ‏@MashableNews 52 seconds ago
    Witness photo of the scene at #Oregonstandoff arrest yesterday afternoon. (📷: Raymond Doherty via @KOINNews)


    Sam Levin ‏@SamTLevin 3 hours ago
    “When a bunch of people roll into town w/ guns + many threats, they are terrorists." #Oregonstandoff sheriff's dad: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/27/oregon-militia-standoff-bundy-arrested-lavoy-finicum-killed-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge

    Rolling Stone Verified account ‏@RollingStone 53 minutes ago
    Here's what you need to know about what happened to the Oregon militia http://rol.st/1Sk9ukY

    ThinkProgress Verified account ‏@thinkprogress
    The media keeps calling the Oregon militia ‘protesters.’ here’s proof. http://thkpr.gs/3743264

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    132. Convoy of semis containing flood lighting & cement barricades heads toward refuge
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:19 PM
    Jan 2016
    Beth Nakamura ‏@bethnakamura 15 minutes ago
    Convoy of semis containing flood lighting & cement barricades heads toward refuge just now #Oregonstandoff




    Kelly House ‏@Kelly_M_House
    Convoy of semis barrels down Oregon 205 just now carrying more roadblock equipment and flood lights. #Oregonstandoff


    Bob Foster ‏@KATUbobf 1 minute ago Oregon, USA
    FBI check point to exit #MalheurOccupation
    #oregonstandoff #HarneyCounty @KATUJoe our story at 4pm #LiveOnK2


    Dave Killen ‏@killendave 3 hours ago
    U.S. 395 still closed down at intersection with U.S. 20 outside of Burns #Oregonstandoff



    FailureToCommunicate

    (14,599 posts)
    135. Looks serious, like maybe they have thought about this next step for awhile.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 09:13 PM
    Jan 2016

    Thanks for riding this unfolding story.

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    133. Ammon Bundy and 6 co- defendants ordered detained until Friday @ hearing - 31 page complaint
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:36 PM
    Jan 2016
    Maxine Bernstein ‏@maxoregonian Covers law enforcement for @Oregonian
    Ammon Bundy and 6 co- defendants ordered detained until Friday detention hearing ; judge found each serious risk of flight&danger
    AUSA Ethan Knight cited the 'dynamic situation involving an ongoing armed occupation' as reason not to release defendants
    Ammon Bundy only one of 7 defendants who appeared in court today who had an appointed attorney - others had court appointed #Oregonstandoff
    Shawna Cox's lawyer argued 'there's very little in terms of specific acts' alleged against her #Oregonstandoff
    OR public defender Lisa Hay on behalf of Ryan Payne:'The evidence against him is political speech and presence'
    Pete Santilli's lawyer argued he's an independent press agent who produces a YouTube show, exercising his 1st Amend. rights #Oregonstandoff
    31-page complaint has been unsealed - Fed public defender Lisa Hay argued that engaging in political speech isn't a crime #OregonStandoff
    [center]

    T ‏@reflectivity
    “Good news and bad news! We found the alcohol! But it was all gone.” - Some Insurgent Lady #OregonStandoff #LiveStream

    SphynxCatsRule ‏@SphynxCatsRule 2 minutes ago
    OH NO!!!! They found the alcohol but it's all gone!!!!!! CRISIS!!!! #oregonstandoff

    KOIN News ‏@KOINNews 2 minutes ago
    Federal complaint: Militia had explosives, night-vision goggles. Says they were prepared to fight. #OregonStandoff
    http://koin.com/2016/01/27/bundy-militia-in-court-what-to-expect/

    Gordon Friedman ‏@gordonrfriedman
    Sheriff Dave Ward to occupiers: "There doesn't have to be bloodshed"
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/01/27/1-dead-feds-arrest-oregon-protest-leader-ammon-bundy/79392112/

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    134. US v. Bundy Complaint and Affidavit Jan 27, 2016 - Interesting reading.
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:46 PM
    Jan 2016

    Last edited Wed Jan 27, 2016, 09:30 PM - Edit history (1)

    Love seeing the degree to which the complaint is based on their social media and streaming. They are self-convicting criminals.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/296875147/US v. Bundy Complaint and Affidavit
    Jan 27, 2016

    Download as PDF, TXT
    Description
    This is the preliminary set of charges against the lead Malheur Wildlife Refuge occupiers. The charges may change once the government secures a grand jury indictment.
    [center]



    Dave Blanchard ‏@blanchardd
    Sun setting over Harney County after peaceful day in Burns. Residents still on edge. #Oregonstandoff


    Beth Nakamura ‏@bethnakamura
    Also FYI Harney County remains beautiful as ever #Oregonstandoff #oregon


    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    136. Long convoy of vehicles arrived @ Harney County Courthouse, where many seemed to enter, then leave
    Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:31 PM
    Jan 2016

    Dave Killen ‏@killendave 4 minutes ago
    Long convoy of vehicles arrived @ Harney County Courthouse, where many seemed to enter, then leave #oregonstandoff






    John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC
    .@opb has also confirmed that negotiations within the refuge have produced positive results, but I'm told there are still holdouts.

    Les Zaitz @LesZaitz
    @JohnLGC, that OPB wizard, reports that David Fry, who has run a live feed from the refuge, also has left.

    JohnR ‏@AnglerArcher
    @JohnLGC There are still some people in the dark fumbling with the live stream and trying to get a flashlight. #Oregonstandoff

    I just checked the live feed = "2 watching now" and dead air.

    Jeff Maehr ‏@countyguard 3 minutes ago
    #OregonStandoff - The BLM and FBI are clearly domestic terrorists... they kill one of ours, we kill 10 of theirs... The land is ours...

    jobendorfer

    (513 posts)
    138. The Oregonian is reporting three more arrests near the Refuge
    Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:26 AM
    Jan 2016

    At ~10:15pm pacific time, the Oregonian as well as the FBI announced that Jason Patrick, Duane Leo Ehmer, and Dylan Wade Anderson had been arrested, all on the Title 18 USC charge. Ehmer and Anderson surrendered voluntarily to the authorities at 3:30pm; Jason Patrick surrendered voluntarily at 8:40pm. The FBI is quoted as saying that since establishing their road checkpoints, a total of 8 persons have left the refuge: the 3 who were arrested, and 5 others who were let go.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/jason_patrick_2_others_linked.html#incart_river_mobile_home
    The Oregonian story

    https://www.flashalert.net/id/FBIOregon
    The FBI announcement of the arrests.

    It is unclear to me how many of the militants remain at the refuge at this hour.

    muriel_volestrangler

    (106,174 posts)
    139. Occupiers leaving amid mounting calls to end the takeover
    Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:15 AM
    Jan 2016
    BURNS -- The ragtag remnants of the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge started to give up their ground Wednesday after calls from supporters, Congress members and even their arrested leader to abandon the 26-day takeover.

    Confusion reigned at the windswept bird sanctuary that has served as the hub of an anti-government protest that captivated the country 30 miles outside this high desert town.
    ...
    Those who remained -- several armed and in camouflage -- seemed skittish and scared throughout the day in a series of live video feeds. They were shown abandoning refuge buildings and heading for remote areas of the reserve in their trucks.

    A black helicopter circled. Lookouts remained posted in the fire tower.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/occupiers_begin_to_trickle_out.html

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    140. Last militia ringleader surrenders, stragglers remain at the refuge drinking beer, smoking pot
    Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:40 PM
    Jan 2016
    Last militia ringleader surrenders, stragglers remain at the refuge drinking beer, smoking pot
    By Jen Hayden Jan 28, 2016 · 7:35 AM PST

    Three more militants who were part of the Oregon standoff are now occupying the Multnomah County jail. Duane Ehmer and his horse “Hellboy” surrendered yesterday afternoon, along with Dylan Wade Anderson. Duane Ehmer could often been seen during the standoff, posing for the cameras on his horse, holding an American flag.

    Hours later, Jason Patrick followed suit and turned himself in at a roadblock. According to reports, militia leaders from other groups were able to convince them to surrender ....

    [center]



    After the Oregon standoff: can lost goodwill be recaptured?
    Naseem Rakha

    As the standoff in the Oregon desert draws close to a very American end – a barricade, a shootout, one dead cowboy, several arrests – the conflict over western lands is far from over.

    During the first week of the standoff, things were fairly amicable between the militants and local authorities. But before long, the out-of-state gun-bearing cowboys were destroying property and threatening local officials. ....

    the answer, according to Harney County rancher Fred Otley, lies in just the kind of cooperative plans that he and other ranchers and conservationists helped create with the Malheur wildlife refuge and Bureau of Land Management in 2013.

    The landmark effort brought together all interest groups to develop a shared vision for the land which included economic, environmental and social needs. It took more than five years of hard work, long conversations and detailed biologic assessments to complete the project. In the end, ranchers signed a 30-year agreement with the government to protect the sage grouse habitat on their private lands, in exchange for the continued use of public lands for well-monitored grazing.

    The cooperative effort included 53 ranches and 320,000 area of public and private land. In March, interior secretary Sally Jewell visited Harney County, dubbing the Malheur plan “the Oregon way.” It and similar work in other parts of the west ..........

    [center]
    FBI Portland @FBIPortland
    Additional Arrests in the Occupation of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge: https://www.flashalert.net/id/FBIOregon

    Gargoyle ‏@Patztense 30 minutes ago
    @bansheebabe @Green_Footballs i tried to find a #Oregonstandoff participant who didn't have a Confederate flag in timeline. Failed

    DJ1 ‏@barryjackson1 37 minutes ago
    RW Reaction to news of #Oregonstandoff - wild conspiracy theories & bizarre comparisons to Jesus
    http://www.salon.com/2016/01/27/republicans_react_to_news_of_oregon_standoff_with_wild_conspiracy_theories_and_bizarre_comparisons_to_jesus/



    brandon lancaster ‏@brandonlancast2 45 minutes ago
    #Oregonstandoff all those on the bogus committee of safety need to arrested soon

    Miragee ‏@eegarim 48 minutes ago
    This is related to #Oregonstandoff. Lawless ranchers and residents. No respect for the land, artifacts. Via @NPR http://n.pr/1QqNJ1g

    other95 ‏@other95 54 minutes ago
    #Oregonstandoff "Last 5 negotiate with FBI, willing to give up refuge if all are left to go without arrest. http://bit.ly/1OZUCUp

    http://www.thestate.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/robert-ariail/fl2n7r/picture53348910/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/OregonNutsColorAriailW

    Saint Expedite ‏@saintexp 10 hours ago
    @fox12oregon coverage of #Oregonstandoff presents all militia claims as credible, including that #Finicum was shot w/o cause.

    KGW News ‏@KGWNews 10 hours ago
    BREAKING: Three more #Oregonstandoff armed occupiers arrested http://on.kgw.com/1Qu1Y5f




    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    141. OPB has spoken with the last four militants inside the Malheur refuge.
    Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:13 PM
    Jan 2016

    Last edited Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:28 PM - Edit history (1)

    OPB has spoken with the last four militants inside the Malheur refuge. http://ow.ly/XE5a4 [center]
    [/center]

    Just 4 Militants Remain At Malheur National Wildlife Refuge

    by Amelia Templeton OPB | Jan. 28, 2016 9:38 a.m.

    .... The group spoke with OPB by phone Thursday morning.

    The remaining group includes David Fry of Blanchester, Ohio, husband and wife Sean and Sandy Anderson of Riggins, Idaho, and Jeff Banta of Elko, Nevada. ..... Fry said he spoke to an FBI negotiator three times in the last 24 hours. ....

    “As a group, we were willing to leave peacefully,” Fry said. “But they want to arrest Sean, and take Sean out, and put him in jail. We don’t want to leave Sean in that situation, because that feels unfair.” ....................


    Guess what, all four of you get the Go to Jail card if you don't take the deal. Does that seem more fair?

    [center]The Oregonian ‏@Oregonian 4 hours ago
    #OregonStandoff Day 27: What you need to know Thursday


    === on Edit at 3:24pm Jan 28 ===

    LISTEN Trapped Inside Malheur Refuge, Militants Desperate For Way Out
    by OPB Staff OPB | Jan. 28, 2016 11:15 a.m. | Updated: Jan. 28, 2016 2:16 p.m. | Amanda Peacher/OPB

    OPB’s Think Out Loud talked Thursday with David Fry and Sandy Anderson, two of the remaining militants inside the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

    They offered an inside account of the negotiations taking place with the FBI, and the growing anxiety among the militants as tension mounts to make their next step.

    “The option is you go out there and they get you and it’s a felony crime and it’s a prison sentence,” Fry told Think Out Loud host Dave Miller. “A lot of us are scared of that option.”

    Fry estimates that there are 20 guns in the refuge, left behind during the chaos of militants fleeing. ...........


    Kirk Siegler @KirkSiegler
    Looking like they may have cleared road block - we are driving toward refuge and FBI now

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    142. 'Thousands' called to Burns to tell FBI to leave after occupation leader's arrest
    Thu Jan 28, 2016, 04:47 PM
    Jan 2016
    'Thousands' called to Burns to tell FBI to leave after occupation leader's arrest
    By Carli Brosseau | The Oregonian/OregonLive January 28, 2016 at 11:07 AM

    A network of patriot groups from across the Northwest issued a call Thursday morning for supporters to flood into Burns.

    The request for help came on the heels of the Wednesday night arrest of Jason Patrick, a Georgia roofer who had emerged as a leader among the remaining occupiers ...

    .... Soper called for thousands of people to converge on Burns peacefully to tell the FBI to leave. ....
    [center]

    This may explain why THREE militia-type strangers were seen in a restaurant in Burns this morning, wearing guns and knives.

    Gordon Friedman ‏@gordonrfriedman
    3 militants in camo with guns and knives just sat down at the truck stop restaurant. They ordered coffee. #Oregonstandoff
    I couldn't get any good shots of the militants as they were leaving, but here's one anyways. #oregonstandoff


    Gordon Friedman ‏@gordonrfriedman 51 seconds ago
    "Call to arms" found on Facebook militant pages, attributed to #Oregonstandoff sympathizer BJ Soper.


    Bob Foster ‏@KATUbobf
    Today's sunrise


    Bob Foster ‏@KATUbobf
    FBI check point let some through. #Oregonstandoff #MalheurRefuge #LiveOnK2 @KATUJoe

    Sam Levin ‏@SamTLevin 6 minutes ago
    An account from #Oregonstandoff man who said he was at refuge when FBI closed in on Malheur:
    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/28/oregon-militia-standoff-four-members-remain-malheur-wildlife-refuge





    Conrad Wilson ‏@conradjwilson 1 hour ago
    Waiting to hear from Ammon Bundy's attorney outside the federal courthouse in Portland #Oregonstandoff


    Maxine Bernstein ‏@maxoregonian 42 minutes ago
    Not your everyday sight at federal courthouse #Oregonstandoff


    Vernonia residents Nathan Owen &Trask Zwook outside court to support Bundys, other refuge occupiers #Oregonstandoff


    Edward DeRuiter ‏@edwardderuiter 52 minutes ago
    Prediction: 10 of LaVoy Finicum's kids will sue the government for wrongful death and lose. One will sue Bundy and win. #Oregonstandoff

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    143. Judge: 'As long as that situation is ongoing I'm not going to release anybody'
    Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:03 PM
    Jan 2016

    [center]
    Maxine Bernstein @maxoregonian 28 minutes ago
    Fed judge at today's appearance of refuge occupier:'As long as that situation is ongoing I'm not going to release anybody' #Oregonstandoff

    Fedor Zarkhin @FedorZarkhin
    Law cited against Oregon occupation was created to corral Civil War secessionists http://s.oregonlive.com/OV3sqPC



    Amanda Peacher ‏@amandapeacher
    Some movement of law enforcement SUVs behind the road block #oregonstandoff

    Bradley W. Parks Verified account ‏@Bradley_W_Parks 9 minutes ago
    A convoy of about 30 vehicles has arrived at the refuge. State trooper blocking the road. #OregonStandoff


    Dylan J Darling ‏@DylanJDarling 11 minutes ago
    More vehicle movement at refuge roadblock. Past the roadblock rigs appear to be moving as well. #OregonStandoff


    Chase Stevens ‏@CSStevensphoto
    Photos from the scene where a massive convoy of 30+ law enforcement vehicles drove by @reviewjournal #OregonStandoff




    Dominic Beaudin ‏@DB3audin 2 minutes ago
    The #Oregonstandoff is almost over now. Can we all admit how pointless and ludicrous this whole thing was? Crazy, unhinged wingnuts.

    Mark Baker ‏@MarkBakerRG
    Latest: Convoy included 4 armored vehicles, possibly at refuge HQ now. #OregonStandoff


    Sarah Rothenfluch Verified account ‏@SarahOPB
    Tune in for a live update from the #Oregonstandoff as the end nears with @OPBnews at 3:13 pm -- live stream at http://www.opb.org/news/

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    144. Apparently, the militant takeover is over, details sketchy. Road opening, presser in Burns later.
    Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:44 PM
    Jan 2016

    [center]

    [center]Kirk Siegler ‏@KirkSiegler 3 minutes ago
    Walking to next FBI check point inside refuge now don't know what is happening yet


    11 minutes ago
    Just went passed the first major FBI road block, cleared, saw officials cleaning up and taking spotlights down

    14 minutes ago
    Looking like they may have cleared road block - we are driving toward refuge and FBI now


    Shirley C ‏@ghhshirley 44 seconds ago RT @ryanjhaas
    Officials say there will be a press conference in Burns soon.

    Kirk Siegler ‏@KirkSiegler 3 minutes ago
    Oregon state police on bullhorn right now telling people to get off road or subject to arrest


    Ryan Haas ‏@ryanjhaas 4 minutes ago
    .@OPB will be going live from the scene again at :44 past the hour. Live stream link in a previous tweet
    http://www.opb.org/radio/listennow/player.php/

    Ryan Haas ‏@ryanjhaas 9 minutes ago
    Officials say there will be a press conference in Burns soon.
    All the roads are open except the road right outside the refuge #Oregonstandoff
    LEO says at least one person still inside. but called the scene "secure"

    Ryan Haas Verified account ‏@ryanjhaas
    Live updates of #Oregonstandoff: Remaining Militants Begin To Leave Malheur National Wildlife Refuge
    http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/oregon-malheur-refuge-militants-leave/

    heykim ‏@heykim
    RT @Scout_Finch: It’s over, folks. Operation #Oregonstandoff is over and out. http://bit.ly/1WQs5Gc


    ==== ON EDIT 4:00 Oregon =====

    Oregon State Police ‏@ORStatePolice 6 minutes ago
    Harney County- Media on Sodhouse Rd is blocking emergency vehicle access. Please do not park in the road.


    10 minutes ago
    There are still police check points in the area. The Refuge remains closed. Vehicles should not block the hwy.

    John Sepulvado @JohnLGC
    Confirmed: There is at least one person remaining in the wildlife refuge. Kirk Siegler ‏@KirkSiegler 20m20 minutes ago

    Kirk Siegler ‏@KirkSiegler
    State troopers here now trying to clear the cars at new road block


    Jon Passantino ‏@passantino
    Harney County sheriff on #Oregonstandoff: “The situation has not been resolved, refuge remains closed"

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    145. Live Updates: Law Enforcement Movement Reported At Refuge - press conference at 5:30 pm
    Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:01 PM
    Jan 2016

    [center]Kelly House ‏@Kelly_M_House 7 minutes ago
    FWIW, cops are saying removing the outer roadblock was merely to make things easier for the locals. #oregonstandoff


    Live Updates: Law Enforcement Movement Reported At Refuge
    by Amanda Peacher and Conrad Wilson and OPB Staff OPB | Updated: Jan. 28, 2016 4:28 p.m.

    UPDATE (4:14 p.m.) The FBI has announced it will hold a press conference at 5:30 p,m. at the Harney County Chamber of Commerce on to address the current on-going situation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. This announcement comes moments after a flurry of action at the refuge.

    OPB reporters will be at the press conference and OPB will air it live on air. Hit the listen live button at the top of this page or on the app.

    Read the whole story here.


    Kelly House @Kelly_M_House
    Cops not letting public past this line, within sight of refuge headquarters. #oregonstandoff




    Kirk Siegler ‏@KirkSiegler 31 minutes ago
    Now a huge # of media at new roadblock inside the refuge


    KATU News Verified account ‏@KATUNews 25 minutes ago
    Refuge remains closed - @CoryMarshallTV says OSP car appears to be going in #LiveOnK2 #Oregonstandoff


    FOX LIVE

    L. Coyote

    (51,134 posts)
    146. FBI Press Conference in Burns - Video of LaVoy Finicum Shooting Released.
    Fri Jan 29, 2016, 12:15 AM
    Jan 2016

    Last edited Fri Jan 29, 2016, 12:21 PM - Edit history (1)

    [center]
    Videos of Joint FBI and OSP Operation -- Warning: Finicum Is Killed in Video -- #BundyTeaParty



    [/center]

    Published on Jan 28, 2016
    This is the complete video footage of a joint FBI and Oregon State Police traffic stop and OSP officer-involved shooting of Robert "LaVoy" Finicum on the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. This footage, which has only been edited to blur out aircraft information, was taken by the FBI on 01/26/2016 and released by the FBI on 01/28/2016.
    [center]
    Edited version 8:02:

    [center]

    Kelly House ‏@Kelly_M_House for @Oregonian tweeted the event:
    Then, Finicum got out of the truck, running out into snow w/ arms up.
    He then reached into right pocket where he had a loaded 9mm handgun...


    Apparently, Finicum has his weapon drawn at this point:


    Jennifer Hayden ‏@Scout_Finch
    FBI says much of the information about LaVoy Finicum death is “most inaccurate, some inflammatory.”

    FOX 13 NOW ‏@fox13now 1 minute ago Salt Lake City, UT
    The FBI reportedly stated LaVoy Finicum had a handgun in his pocket when he was shot in Oregon



    Mark Graves ‏@markwgraves The Oregonian/OregonLive.com's Data Team.
    FBI video footage of LaVoy Finicum shooting. Hands are in the air, then reaching towards his waste
    #oregonstandoff http://s.oregonlive.com/G9xB7vP

    Les Zaitz @LesZaitz
    You can be certain there were body cams, dash cams. Will be part of separate investigation into shooting.


    Bob Schaper ‏@Bob_Schaper Burns, OR - News conference set to begin in Burns.


    Jennifer Hayden ‏@Scout_Finch
    FBI video shows #LavoyFinicum clearly reaching into his coat pocket.
    http://bit.ly/1UufqHw #Oregonstandoff
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