Clinton: Sanders' health care plan 'will never, ever come to pass'

[Molusko]

Source: CNN

Hillary Clinton on Friday cast Bernie Sanders’ plan for single-payer health insurance as an “idea that will never, ever come to pass.”

The swipe builds on Clinton’s repeated rhetoric against the Vermont senator’s proposed single-payer, Medicare-for-all health care plan that he proposed earlier this month. The plan would provide health coverage to all Americans but would be paid for by raising taxes on most Americans.

Clinton has sought to cast Sanders’ plan as going backwards by repealing Obamacare — President Barack Obama’s signature legislative achievement — in order to pass single-payer.

To prove her point on Friday, Clinton asked Joan Hanna, a woman she met backstage here before a campaign event, to talk about how her daughter’s brain cancer and coverage under the Affordable Care Act.


Read more: http://www.kugn.com/news/clinton-sanders-health-care-plan-will-never-ever-come-to-pass/

[guillaumeb]

1. Sorry US citizens, you will have to settle for a third rate, failed system.

What a way to inspire and motivate voters.

[Molusko]

2. Obamacare is a failed system?

I disagree. Please explain.

[Gore1FL]

6. It's not failed. It's just not what we need.

We need single Payer. We need Democrats to support what is right and not hide in a corner afraid of the political consequences of doing the right thing.

Instead of fighting the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" she is echoing them.

[guillaumeb]

9. The US healthcare system is failing the 30 million without healthcare.

And the ACA is a bandage on a bleeding wound. A bandage and a massive Federal subsidy to the insurance companies. The WHO, the World Health Organization, rates the US system 37th. Is that your idea of a good grade?

[arcane1]

26. Not to mention millions of us WITH insurance who still can't afford the copays n/t

[guillaumeb]

62. And the people who lose their plans and must find another plan

And out of control drug costs that are not addressed by the ACA.

[Blue_Adept]

92. And its failing because we keep electing absolute fucktards

into the house and senate.

If the ACA had been built through a lot of actual effort instead of one side attempting to destroy every single thing and the other lowballing in order to get anything done, it would be a different story.

[guillaumeb]

95. True. Money talks quite loudly, and politicians listen closely.

[trillion]

16. You do realize the average deductible is 4k right?

[wolfie001]

23. But if you're earning $250,000 a year, then........

.....that should be pocket change. Isn't that what Hillary thinks is a middle class wage?

[mhatrw]

33. Name another country that pays more for less.

Just one please.

[jeff47]

35. Just wait.

While medical costs are not rising as much as they were before the ACA, they are still rising faster than inflation, and WAAAAAY faster than wages.

The subsidies in the ACA are based on poverty level. Which more-or-less will grow with inflation. But medical expenses, and thus insurance premiums, are still rising much faster.

So down the road, we're going to have a lot of people who can't afford insurance premiums but also do not qualify for subsidies.

The ACA really is "step 1" for healthcare reform. The ACA gives us new options for the single-payer battle, but we have to keep fighting for single-payer. If we stop here, the ACA will collapse.

[rhett o rick]

45. It has failed to cover all Americans. It was supposed to be a first step. Bullcrap. Now is the time

to start on the second and cut out the parasitic insurance companies and their puppet politicians. But the Conservative Dems like H. Clinton don't want to hurt the insurance corporations that share their ill gotten gains with them.

I personally know people that have been failed completely by the ACA. Personally I am lucky to have insurance but my premiums went up 33% this year.

[Dems to Win]

49. WalMart offers 'insurance' to its employees with a $5500 yearly deductible

Since they have employer-provided 'insurance', they can't buy real insurance thru the exchange, even if they wanted to.

No WalMart employee making $10 bucks an hour can afford to go to the doctor.

I have a family member who works at WalMart and could only get his knee replaced because a family member paid the $8000 out of pocket cost. Without that help, he'd still be crippled and applying for disability.

So many people are left out under Obamacare.

[katsy]

53. Not a failure?

It is if you make $1 more than what would qualify you for a subsidy and it's all calculated pre-tax.

For us, family of 4 it costs us $12,100 per year then $3k deductible. No dental.

Guess what? By next year when the premiums go up, I won't be able to afford health insurance for myself. I'll keep my kids covered.

ACA is great because we have covered the poor and they can't hold pre existing conditions against you. But if you're in the working class,,, well it's only going down from here.

[wordpix]

54. It fails in a number of ways but is better than what we had before

We no longer have people without insurance, going broke and losing their homes and savings b/c they have a pre-existing condition, for example.

We do allow drug companies a monopoly on pricing b/c Congress agreed with them not to negotiate for better prices outside the US.

We do have insurance companies, providers and drug cos. fraudulently billing. They appear to be in cahoots, and the insurance companies may be writing their fantasy numbers off as tax deductions/losses when they don't get the full amount they fraudulently bill, while agreeing in provider contracts to allow lower payments. Billing is opaque for a reason and Congress/DOJ should open this up wide and investigate. I have no hopes for Congress, but a Pres. Sanders might ask DOJ to do it, especially if his constituents demand it.

[davidthegnome]

86. Not failed - but not complete, either.

I'm not sure which states besides Maine rejected the medicaid expansion, but it left a whole lot of people without any health insurance, or any means of getting it. Basically, a lot of part time workers can't qualify because you have to earn a minimum of (I believe it's still) 11 grand a year to qualify for the subsidies under the ACA. They recommend that you apply for Mainecare, which, under Maine's current governance is extremely hard to get.

This, of course, isn't the fault of the ACA as the intention was to pass the medicaid expansion Nationally. What was the fault of the ACA, the Obama administration, and our democratically controlled congress and Senate (for the brief time we had them) was the lack of courage and/or forethought. We had an opportunity to put together - at least - a public option. It would have taken more time, but I believe that the votes could have been gained, if the effort had truly been made.

The other issue with the ACA is that people in my situation (part time workers who fell through the cracks) will end up having to pay fines that they cannot afford, because they do not have health insurance that they could not afford - and simply could not get. Seven hundred dollars for me, which I hope I get back in my tax return from last year - otherwise I'll have to look for something to sell.

The federal mandate should not apply in every situation, I didn't like the federal mandate to begin with, I still don't - and this is one example of why.

[Rilesome]

40. We see no way possible to eliminate the insurance industry interests.

If HRC says we can't do it. Well that should be good enough for us?

[guillaumeb]

63. Because HRC's interests are the same as the insurance companies interests?

[roguevalley]

74. how in the hell does she expect to win saying stuff like this and why the

hell should we settle for that when her heath care is great?

[guillaumeb]

94. What HRC is actually doing, in my view, is deliberately lowering expectations.

If that is correct, the question for me would be "why?".

[0rganism]

113. i think she's looking to bring in support from people who already have low expectations

Sanders has the high-hopes vote locked up, there's not a whole lot of room for her in that lane.

rather than compete with him for a base the DNC doesn't much care for anyway, Hillary seems to be focused on reinforcing the viewpoints of moderate Democrats who believe that the system as it is cannot be changed sufficiently for a single payer system to be seriously supported by the legislative branch, and efforts in that direction will only lead to the dissolution of resources for the ACA.

[Yo_Mama]

3. Something's going to come to pass. The current situation isn't stable.

Something's got to give.

[Recursion]

99. True, but it's not going to be that ridiculous tripe

We could well even get single payer, but only from an administration that actually does its homework about it and levels with the American people about costs.

[Yo_Mama]

105. With you. Costs and compromises, because we are going to have to compromise.

But right now no one wants to compromise, so....

[99th_Monkey]

4. More from the "NO WE CAN'T! It's just too hard!" candidate. Got it.

Hillary Is Triangulating Against Liberals on Single-Payer
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/hillary_clinton_triangulates_against_bernie_sanders.html

Hillary saying "Democrats should never be attacking other Democrats over single-payer healthcare"
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/01/hillary-clinton-democrats-should-never-attack-each-other-over-universal-health-care

Hillary Clinton’s Single-Payer Pivot Greased By Millions in Industry Speech Fees
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/hillary-clinton-single-payer/

[mdbl]

44. Her tune sure has changed since the early 1990's

What was it, the constant insults from the reichwing or the million dollar speeches that changed her? Does she think the righties will like her more? Does she really think single payer is wrong? Who knows. That's my problem with her.

[wordpix]

51. xactly

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

79. No We Can't

[jmowreader]

106. Change that to NO HE CAN'T

Hillary is exactly right on the banks: Glass-Steagall wouldn't have stopped the Shrub Bush Financial Meltdown because the firms that were the worst malefactors wouldn't have been governed by it. You want to stop the next meltdown? Then you do what I have been telling you guys to do for a very long time, get someone in there who understands derivatives (Elizabeth Warren might, but Bernie Sanders doesn't act like he does) and CLEAN UP THE DERIVATIVES MARKET!

I have said this for quite a while: The problem with the financial system isn't what you can't do. It's what you CAN. Let's look at the Goldman, Sachs Scandal...you know, the one where Goldman joined with the nastiest short in the industry to bet against the housing market, and screwed a bunch of people out of billions of dollars? I read the prospectus, and those assholes described EXACTLY what was going to happen with one short, easy to misunderstand phrase: "synthetic exposure to the housing market." A synthetic CDO is kinda like a blackjack table in a rigged house. I'm the dealer. You're the player. The table we're at is labeled The Housing Market. I think the housing market is going to crash. You don't think that, so we both put some money in a pot. Then we play cards. But since this casino has no rules whatsoever, don't get too upset when I deal your hands from a deck that's all deuces and treys and my hands from a deck that's all queens and kings. OF COURSE the guy who set up the deal picked the riskiest mortgages in America to bet on and he didn't tell you what they were. HE COULD DO THAT!

[OrwellwasRight]

5. Imagine JFK or LBJ running on the slogan: Racial equality is an idea that will never, ever come pass

It doesn't matter what they really thought. They certainly didn't go around campaigning by mocking people whose votes they would have liked to have. It is just bad, offensive politics.

This is the same, Wouldn't she like Bernie people to vote for her in the general election? Then why is she trying as hard as she can to offend them and sound like a Republican? It really doesn't get you anywhere among Democratic voters to mock universal health care.

Why in the world would she say this? Honestly, it is really pretty hateful stuff.

[Mike__M]

15. Can hardly believe this

Will Democrats really come out in the cold to support this stuff? Bernie might as well take a vacation the next three days, and let Clinton sink her own ship.

"No We Can't" indeed.

[OrwellwasRight]

25. Just. Don't. Get. It.

Love your sig line though!

[myrna minx]

71. The slogan "No We Can't!" is just surreal.

On Edit - or should it be: "No YOU can't!" or "How DARE YOU!" That's what this sounds like to me.

[OrwellwasRight]

73. It's a message that says

set your sights low, and accept a life of struggle and deprivation while others have great wealth of which you can literally only dream, but never achieve.

[myrna minx]

75. Truly. We went from "Yes! We! Can!" to "Don't bother - NO YOU CAN'T!"

"Never TRY!" " You can't ever win!" "It's too hard!"

"How DARE you ask about Goldman Sachs!"

[Kip Humphrey]

7. Hillaryland is neverland: vote for Hillary and NEVER, EVER have universal healthcare!

THAT is a clear choice for me.

WIN, Bernie, WIN!

[Mike__M]

8. K&R - To keep the repulsive negativity in full view (n/t)

[guillaumeb]

10. Sorry children, no good healthcare for you.

Now go to your room. Mommy has a speech to make at the Pharmaceutical Convention.

[NurseJackie]

11. She's correct, you know.

[CoffeeCat]

13. She's not correct!

She's so status quo and so lacking in the strength and courage to fight her corporate friends in high places--that she can't even bother to fight for what the vast majority of Democrats want.

Screw her!

[trillion]

38. She's bought out by the insurance industry.

[mdbl]

46. Obviously.

[CoffeeCat]

48. We don't have to endure this nonsense any longer

Thank you Bernie, for running for President.

[wordpix]

67. does Open Secrets have insurance donation$ ? Time to do some research

[CoffeeCat]

12. "Sorry the insurance companies own the politicians...so you get NOTHING!"

Good to know that Hillary is the status-quo diva.

Let's get this party started with Bernie. We're the only modernized country on the planet that does not have universal healthcare. Because our politicians are bough and paid for Pez dispensers for the sooooooo powerful and scary health-insurance industry--the peasants must suffer.

Step aside, Hillary. If you don't have the guts and the courage to fight for what's right--Bernie will.

[cstanleytech]

14. She is probably right though, after all can anyone here really imagine the republicans realistically

losing enough power so that they could not stop it?

[mdbl]

47. so just roll over and let it happen?

[cstanleytech]

64. Being realistic does mean you have to roll over, you can by all means try to pass single payer

just dont get your hopes up as long as the Republicans wield enough power still to block such efforts.

[OrwellwasRight]

72. She will never try.

Why would you try to do something that would "never, ever" happen?

[cstanleytech]

80. Yes, she probably wont but that doesnt mean that she would not be a good president

in her own way just like imo Bernie would a good president in his own way as well.

[OrwellwasRight]

91. I have a different opinion.

I no longer think that sucking up to Wall Street and only going as far as they will allow you to go in seeking to improve the socioeconomic status of the American people "makes a good president." I think it is destructive to our country to continually lower people's expectations. We're not serfs, we are citizens, and we deserve better. "Not as bad as the other guy" is not good for the country, in my view. It perpetuates our view of ourselves as the undeserving poor.

"America is the wealthiest nation on Earth, but its people are mainly poor, and poor Americans are urged to hate themselves. To quote the American humorist Kin Hubbard, “It ain’t no disgrace to be poor, but it might as well be.” It is in fact a crime for an American to be poor, even though America is a nation of poor. Every other nation has folk traditions of men who were poor but extremely wise and virtuous, and therefore more estimable than anyone with power and gold. No such tales are told by the American poor. They mock themselves and glorify their betters. The meanest eating or drinking establishment, owned by a man who is himself poor, is very likely to have a sign on its wall asking this cruel question: “if you’re so smart, why ain’t you rich?” There will also be an American flag no larger than a child’s hand – glued to a lollipop stick and flying from the cash register.

Americans, like human beings everywhere, believe many things that are obviously untrue. Their most destructive untruth is that it is very easy for any American to make money. They will not acknowledge how in fact hard money is to come by, and, therefore, those who have no money blame and blame and blame themselves. This inward blame has been a treasure for the rich and powerful, who have had to do less for their poor, publicly and privately, than any other ruling class since, say Napoleonic times. Many novelties have come from America. The most startling of these, a thing without precedent, is a mass of undignified poor. They do not love one another because they do not love themselves." - Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five

No more!

[mdbl]

93. Well stated.

I am sick of the a-hole repugs on the radio mocking anyone who isn't in the top 1%. Dodoheads that call Mush Limberger think he is on their side, when in reality he snickers at their stupidity while making a shitload of cash on their backs. Of course, Orwell had already personified Limbaugh by putting the pigs at the mic in Animal Farm.

[OrwellwasRight]

101. So true.

I wish people could see through the hateful Limbaugh.

[cstanleytech]

96. Hey I didnt you had to support Hillary or atleast not now. You can support Bernie just keep in mind

if he does not win the nomination and Hillary does then we need support her as she is a better choice than any of the Republicans.

[jeff47]

50. Yes...step 1 is to stop letting Republicans define acceptable discourse. (nt)

[cstanleytech]

65. More like step one is to work harder to retake the local county and city seats from the Republicans

followed by the state level positions and finally the federal level ones because continuing to focus so much on federal elections serves only as a recipe for disaster.
If all that is done however it could happen but right now if things continue on this path there is no realistic way something like single payer could probably happen.

[jeff47]

66. And you do that by not letting Republicans define what is acceptable discourse. (nt)

[litlbilly]

17. So, youre posting this op as a positive thing? Wow, just wow.

[trillion]

41. There are a lot of things I don't understand about Hillary supporters. I.E. thinking this is good.

[Gregorian]

18. Why so futilistic? We can at least try. Maybe we can push the line of scrimmage a bit.

But doing what might satisfy the authoritarian goons is not how I want to proceed with our country at this point in time.

[trillion]

19. Yes, Hilary is in bed with the insurance companies. They are just one sector of her many Wallstreet

funders. Aren't super pacs Awesome!

That said, no to Hillary. If I wanted GW Back I'd vote for Jeb. I don't want him back.

[onecaliberal]

20. Clinton will never ever become POTUS

[trillion]

21. The only advantage would be pro choice, after that it would be used for helping every wallstreet

business who shows up in front of her.

[onecaliberal]

22. Bernies record on women's issues is better than hers too, and it reaches back more years.

[PassingFair]

24. Ms. Clinton, just because YOUR health plan never "came to pass"...

doesn't mean that the time is not right for Bernie Care.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. NO, WE CAN'T. A great campaign slogan.

[Wibly]

28. Healthcare is universal

Pretty much every civilized and developed country in the world has single payer universal health care.
Clinton claiming it will never come to pass in America is Clinton denying the inevitable in a desperate attempt to make Sanders look out to lunch.
The kick is, it makes her sound like she's out to lunch.
Never say never Hillary. Doing so has a way of coming back and biting you in the privates.

[Jarqui]

29. Hillary will say or do anything to get elected

This is her modus operandi

If the media was on the ball, they'd be calling her out on the hypocrisy showing video then and now.

[arcane1]

30. "Let's Fail Without Ever Trying" is a pretty lame campaign slogan.

It's definitely not working on ME!

[PatrickforO]

32. I love that! 'Let's fail without ever trying.'

She's not saying it in those words but you've sure as heck got her message right.

[PatrickforO]

31. BULLSHIT. Vote Bernie and then back his play and it WILL happen.

[Babel_17]

34. "NOPE!"

"YES WE CAN'T!"

[Odin2005]

36. NO WE CAN'T (have what every other developed nation has)!

[truebluegreen]

37. Really? People recced this? Ugh.

[LibDemAlways]

39. Imagine Kennedy saying "We will never put a man

on the moon" or FDR saying "December 7 was a bad day, but there's nothing much we can do about it" or MLK declaring that the quest for civil rights and racial equality was futile. Leadership means taking on difficult challenges and causes you believe in and fighting for them. Bernie doesn't claim that establishing a single payer system will be easy. He knows the obstacles in the way, but he's not going to surrender before the battle is fought. Hillary is showing her true colors. She isn't prepared to fight for us. Her ambition begins and ends with claiming the title of 1st female US President. Today she took a huge step backwards in achieving that goal.

[ebbie15644]

42. Think Big Hillary! Think big

[tinkerbelle]

43. Her presidency is what's "never, ever" going to happen,

and hopefully that will become apparent in the weeks ahead.

[wordpix]

69. hers are fighting words, for sure, and I'm willing to fight

I am very familiar with how these insurance companies and providers and drug cos. are in cahoots to fraudulently bill and bilk us. I'm a cancer patient.

Meanwhile, Big Pharma is taking their profits overseas with tax "inversions," on paper showing their headquarters are outside the US. Yet our Dem Congress agreed in the ACA to let Big Pharma have a monopoly on pricing since negotiations for drugs outside the US are forbidden. It's outrageous. THIS is what Hillary should be talking about but I won't hold my breath. I'll just vote for Bernie.

[MisterP]

52. was she in a school doorway when she said it?

[maxsolomon]

57. what does that mean?

I presume its a snarky reference to some other event?

[MisterP]

58. li'l Georgie Wallace

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand_in_the_Schoolhouse_Door

ironically he rode on the economic populism that the Dems were starting to abandon--in fact, to disregard as a political factor

that was a bad move

[DesertFlower]

55. maybe not right away. it would take time --

maybe years to work out the details, but it can be done. it won't be easy.

hillary doesn't want it to be her fight and it's understandable after what she went through in the early 90s and seeing what obama went through to get ACA passed.

i'm 74. will i see it in my lifetime? i hope so.

[maxsolomon]

56. it could pass, but not in today's america

I think Sanders and Clinton will both be long gone before this country swings back to rationally apportioning our taxes for something other than war. If you cut the DoD in half, it doesn't look impossible anymore, but it would take 100% Dem control of every branch of govt.

65, 70 votes in the Senate. an unprecedented majority.

[Earth_First]

59. With the company that HRC keeps, you're fuckin-a right we won't! n/t

[Dont call me Shirley]

60. Why, because she's fighting against it?

[LiberalLovinLug]

61. Hmmmm, lets look at previous Hillary predictions

On gay marriage:

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/hil-nixes-same-sex-marriage-article-1.864728

"Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman."

On legal weed:

http://reason.com/blog/2011/02/07/hillary-clinton-we-cant-legali

"I don't think that will work. I mean, I hear the same debate. I hear it in my country. It is not likely to work."



Funny how things can change so quickly when given the chance

[Scootaloo]

68. How inspirational.

[wordpix]

70. yes, isn't it though?

A pundit interviewed Hill's young campaign manager and asked about the enthusiasm factor, i.e. Hill doesn't have it but Bernie does. The poor manager was stuck with not much to say about it.

She is just not inspirational. Period. Bernie is.

[Agnosticsherbet]

76. There is no Congress to Legislate it into existance.

The way to get there is to go through the long process of improving the system we have until we get there.

That would be an evolutionary process.

Sanders Campaign seeks a revolutionary process.

[Truprogressive85]

77. The Party of "NO WE CAN'T"

[senseandsensibility]

78. how adorably lovely,

and: puke:

[jonestonesusa]

81. OK, Clinton is firmly against Single Payer.

How long will this position last?

[hibbing]

82. How inspirational

[olddots]

83. and for my 23rd. post

[LiberalElite]

84. That's a perfect soundbite for a future Sanders commercial eom

[My Good Babushka]

85. As many times as the Republicans tried to repeal the ACA

As many times as the Republicans tried to repeal the ACA
That's how many times I want the Democrats to try to pass universal health care.

[davidthegnome]

87. Something odd about that logic.

"We will never, ever, walk on the moon.", "We will never, ever, have a way to fight cancer.", "We will never, ever be able to stop the Nazis.", "We will never, ever have a public education system.", "We will never, ever be able to win independence from Britain.", "We will never, ever, have a cure for Malaria"..... you know how many things that could never ever happen - actually happened? Quite a lot.

I admit, it will be a tough fight to get it through with the republicans and conservadems in congress, but that doesn't mean it can't be done. It means Bernie needs to appeal to the American people to get it through - and, by means of either our votes, and/or our voices, WE can, and will accomplish that, if we have but the courage and the faith to try. It is long past time for it - and I am tired of being told it can't be done. A majority of Americans will favor this, the working class, the poor, a good solid portion of the middle class. The issue will be, of course, with the upper class elite and extremely wealthy that don't want to pay taxes for health insurance.

Sorry, but they've had their way too long. Enormous corporations paying nothing in taxes - somehow gaining tax relief, or stashing everything in offshore tax havens, influencing our politics, our education, our laws and regulations... enough. Sanders is ready to launch this revolution - and he's got a whole hell of a lot of people behind him.

Anything can be done - anything - . This is America.

[lark]

88. This really pisses me off about Clinton, such a HUGE flip flop.

She gave a speech back when Bill was president and was totally outraged that some Dems would dare come out against single payer and coverage for all. Now, because its politically expedient, she's against it. This is one of the worst things I've seen her do, because I think it's totally dishonest. I think she truly does support this, and has for decades, but is against it during the primary solely because of Bernie.

For Shame, Mrs. Clinton, for shame!

[EndElectoral]

89. Why does she beleive gun control can come to pass and not Medicare for All?

It is as unrealistic to beleive an NRA Congress will ever pass effective gun control in light of the numbers in a Republican House and Senate, AND recent Supreme Court rulings regarding the second amendment.

Hillary has a problem with "selective realism". What she beleives is possible is "realistic". What Sanders beleives is possible is "unrealistic".

[wordpix]

107. gun control=her personal safety. As a member of the 1%, she doesn't need Medicare for All

It's all about what she and her big donors need

[Politicub]

90. I think a good step would be to offer a public option

Maybe the opportunity to buy into Medicare as another option on the exchange. That's something all of us wanted on the ACA, but didn't get included for a variety of reasons.

Instead of throwing the baby out with the bathwater by dismantling the ACA, it can be used as a platform to get to single payer at some point in time.

The ACA works for me and I'm happy with my plan. I don't get any kind of subsidy at this point. I know not everyone has had the same experience. But I do fear that the rug will be pulled out from under me and others who depend on coverage through the exchange.

[Herman4747]

97. And if Hillary had been notably older in 1962 or so...

...she would have been saying the exact same thing about Medicare.

[Doctor_J]

98. She is really a miserable wretch

God, why doesn't she switch parties?

[madville]

102. I think it's almost at a point

Where the GOP establishment would rather have her than Trump

[yurbud]

100. I get the feeling Hillary is not talking to us at all--she's just reassuring the rich

[elias49]

103. Just yesterday I watched a clip of her crowing about the moon!

How people said it couldn't be done, but Hillary waved her arms around and excoriated nay sayers about thinking big,
"..we can't listen to those who say it cant be done. This is america!.."

So how's it going to be? Think big? Or shrink from challenge?
Get your story straight Hillary..

[harun]

108. Never say never

Somehow it managed to come to pass in every other industrialized country on the planet.

[Vinca]

109. I don't see why not. It should be easier to enact than the ACA.

People love Medicare and they understand it.

[SammyWinstonJack]

110. She enjoys her taxpayer funded healthcare, I am sure.

[hughee99]

111. I believe her. She seems to know the people who would prevent it very well.

I'm sure she's talked with them at her various fundraisers and understands that they are willing to do almost anything to prevent it from happening.

[winter is coming]

112. So the US can't accomplish something several industrialized nations have?

So much for being the greatest nation on Earth.