NY Times : Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination

[youceyec]

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Source: NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/opinion/sunday/hillary-clinton-endorsement.html?_r=0

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/opinion/sunday/hillary-clinton-endorsement.html?_r=0

[saltpoint]

1. Wait! The NYTimes endorsed

Hillary?

Dear God. Who could have seen that coming?

[mikehiggins]

3. They did this before. Somehow Obama wound up President anyway.

Maybe their day is done.

Remember that Redford movie where taking the scandal to the NY Times was seen as the answer to all the problems? Times (no pun) have changed.

Does anyone think this paper would print the Pentagon Papers today?

[saltpoint]

6. The U.S. media have been in

the tank for the tawdry and the tedious and the corrupt for a while now.

I love your sentence "Times (no pun) have changed."

[JonLeibowitz]

11. That was the Washington Post (assuming you mean the Watergate scandal and not Spy Game)

The Washington Post has had significantly better campaign coverage.

[karynnj]

16. The NYT published the Pentagon papers; the WP led on Watergate

That they are changed is a point well taken -- in the early Bush years both helped Bush in taking the country to war and both still favor a neoliberal or neo con foreign policy. The NYT also sat on the James Risen, FISA (gov't getting everyone's telephone records) story that he gave to them in fall 2004. They waited until spring 2005.

[restorefreedom]

35. rotfl! no one expects the spanish inquisition!

https://m.

[saltpoint]

52. LOL. eom

[ViseGrip]

2. Say hello to Judith Miller and good riddance to Novak!

All the lies...

[TwilightGardener]

4. Remember last summer when NYT was a Hillary villain? LOL.

The Hillary fans said the NYT had no credibility. So, they still don't.

[yallerdawg]

5. Before the first vote!

[pandr32]

7. Excellent

...and well-earned

[NurseJackie]

8. Wow! I love it! <3

So much to love! Here's a small sample ...

Hillary Clinton would be the first woman nominated by a major party. She served as a senator from a major state (New York) and as secretary of state — not to mention her experience on the national stage as first lady with her brilliant and flawed husband, President Bill Clinton. The Times editorial board has endorsed her three times for federal office — twice for Senate and once in the 2008 Democratic presidential primary — and is doing so again with confidence and enthusiasm.

...

In the end, though, Mr. Sanders does not have the breadth of experience or policy ideas that Mrs. Clinton offers. His boldest proposals — to break up the banks and to start all over on health care reform with a Medicare-for-all system — have earned him support among alienated middle-class voters and young people. But his plans for achieving them aren’t realistic, while Mrs. Clinton has very good, and achievable, proposals in both areas.

...

Hillary Clinton is the right choice for the Democrats to present a vision for America that is radically different from the one that leading Republican candidates offer — a vision in which middle-class Americans have a real shot at prosperity, women’s rights are enhanced, undocumented immigrants are given a chance at legitimacy, international alliances are nurtured and the country is kept safe.

[Politicub]

36. It's a great, balanced endorsement for a well-balanced candidate

Hillary knows how to get the job done, and will be a wonderful president.

[jwirr]

9. When I see this I think about how many of us have stopped

watching MSM and wonder if that is the way of the major newspapers as well.

[Depaysement]

12. This is true

I read the Times less and less. It is out of touch with the times and the people.

[saltpoint]

15. Yep The cable news stations in particular

have become ratings whores.

FOX never was a news network. Its sole purpose was propaganda and debasement. CNN could use a serious overhaul. NBC's kind of a mess.

Pretty bleak landscape out there for media choices.

[Politicub]

37. Good thing that you did - The NYTimes is part of the conspiracy

You are right in not allowing impure outlets to taint your thinking.

[MattSh]

41. Until a few months ago...

I at least browsed their headlines.

Then I couldn't even stand that any more.

[bahrbearian]

10. Is NYT ramping up for more regimen change in the Middle East

[NurseJackie]

22. Huh?

[JoeyT]

49. Presumably they're referring to the NYTs role in selling the war in Iraq. n/t

[earthside]

56. The Newspaper of War ... and Hillary

The Newspaper of War
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/05/13/newspaper-war

Birds of a feather ...

[thesquanderer]

28. Well, I guess it does sell papers... (nt)

[lunamagica]

13. BOOM

BOOM

Go Hillary!

[kennetha]

14. K&R

[scottie55]

17. The Establishment News Endorsed Mrs. Clinton

Whoda

Thunkit.

New York = Says it all.

[LibDemAlways]

50. This is about as unexpected as a

headline proclaiming that the pope believes in God.

[virtualobserver]

18. I remember back in July when Sandernistas were attacked if they posted from the NY Times

They were the enemy of Team Hillary.

[TwilightGardener]

20. They suddenly have credibility now.

[Le Taz Hot]

19. Which surprises absolutely no one.

[SoapBox]

21. Some say boom...

Seems more like gas to me.

Another Entrenched Establishment, big money, big power entity for the Entrenched Establishment, big money, big power candidate.

[LiberalElite]

31. I was trying to think of that term -

GAS! Yes, that's it.

They must be relieved at the NYT now that it's been released.

[Kip Humphrey]

23. BOOM! American Oligarchy endorses Hillary Clinton... REASON #48 why I'm voting for Bernie.

[youceyec]

24. Whatever happens

Don't forget any D is 1000x than any R.

[valerief]

25. And this surprises...

no one.

[PFunk1]

26. and everyone's surprised by this.

Like the Times would ever do otherwise (shesh).

[AzDar]

27. ...

Feel The BERN!! Go Bernie, GO!!

[thesquanderer]

29. They list paid sick leave as a strong issue for Hillary

Meanwhile, Bernie supports Gillibrand's bill, Hillary opposes it.

[LiberalElite]

30. Here's the perfect accessory for the NYT Editorial Board

?

[chapdrum]

34. Perfect cap

Looks Trump-sized, too.

[Purveyor]

32. Pandering pieces of scat. eom

[chapdrum]

33. Smell the credibility...

...and consider the source.

The same paper that allowed Judith Miller to act as stenographer for BushCo, promulgating lies and propaganda, in the ruinous Iraq invasion (sovereign country).

Enjoy the taint, Madame Secretary (and thanks for promoting fracking while you were in office).

[NurseJackie]

42. Well! I do declare ...

... is that a touch of jealousy that I detect?

[chapdrum]

45. Yeah, jealousy that's it.

That's the ticket.

Laughs at request for transcript of speeches given to predatory Goldman Sachs, at $200K a pop;

Promoted the protracted suicide that is fracking in Eastern Europe though, tastefully, not in her neighborhood;

Has a daughter who makes speeches and appearances on behalf of Peterson Foundation, that wants to privatize Social Security;

Supported Bush's invasion of Iraq (watch out for them mushroom clouds).

[NurseJackie]

46. ...

[Purveyor]

51. You forgot one...

[jalan48]

38. Wall St. (NY TIMES) says, "We heart Hillary!"

It's time for a woman to be their representative in the White House-it's progress!! Yee haww!

[Dems to Win]

39. Same folks who exhibited no critical thinking skills in run-up to Iraq War

They have proven to have very poor judgement, so it matters not to me who they endorse.

[frylock]

40. She's the most qualified person in ever to take us into an unnecessary war.

[Sunlei]

43. 10 articles & pay to view for NYT, except NYT 'opinion' about Mrs. Clinton. its a paid endorsement?

[Zorra]

44. Super wealthy oligarchs supporting Clinton. Who could have ever guessed

this would happen?

[Gothmog]

47. This is a major endorsement

[Blue_Tires]

48. NYT's next in line to be thrown under the emoprog bus...

[ypsfonos]

53. Don't believe everything you read in the NYT- Bernie Sanders nt

[The Second Stone]

54. Ewww. Yuck. I may have to reconsider my support for Sec. Clinton

Nothing as repugnant as The New York Times bottom feeding scum.

[Number23]

55. K&R

[w4rma]

57. The New York Times endorsed Kasich, not Clinton. Clinton's endorsement was limited to the primary.

Which brings us to their actual choice: John Kasich.

That’s right, The New York Times is throwing its support (with the standard caveats) to Kasich. Here’s why:

Gov. John Kasich of Ohio, though a distinct underdog, is the only plausible choice for Republicans tired of the extremism and inexperience on display in this race…

As a veteran of partisan fights and bipartisan deals during nearly two decades in the House, he has been capable of compromise and believes in the ability of government to improve lives. He favors a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, and he speaks of government’s duty to protect the poor, the mentally ill and others “in the shadows.” While Republicans in Congress tried more than 60 times to kill Obamacare, Mr. Kasich did an end-run around Ohio’s Republican Legislature to secure a $13 billion Medicaid expansion to cover more people in his state.

Their endorsement of Kasich is tempered with the understanding that he is pro-life, anti-gay marriage, and has “gone after public-sector unions.” Still, they credit him for attempting to run a more civil campaign than his Republican opponents.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/nyt-editorial-board-endorses-hillary-and-the-only-plausible-choice-for-the-gop/

[Odin2005]

58. The same NYT that defended W's illegal wars.

[Liberal_in_LA]

59. k&r

[one_voice]

60. Locking..

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