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[ForgoTheConsequence]

1. And no one else yet....

Interesting. Shows a sense of entitlement, no surprise. Bernie performed well in Iowa and will crush in New Hampshire.

[humbled_opinion]

31. I am not sure I would believe it

I remember the repups said Mitt had won Iowa only to find out later it was in fact Santorum.... This is premature how does she get away with these nasty tricks...

[roguevalley]

37. at 0.4% now the dif

[stonecutter357]

2. K&R!

[fbc]

3. Bit premature with the delegate count tied at 19, no?

https://www.google.com/#q=iowa+caucus+results&eob=D/2/short/m.03s0w/

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[Tommymac]

65. She is counting the 5 or 6 Super Delegates...

that are not chosen by the People. But if Bernie is the People's choice and the Super's give her the nomination this summer they will destroy the Dem party.

[pnwmom]

100. One small state election will not destroy the Dem party.

[Lage Nom Ai]

102. Read it slower

If the popular vote at the convention is ignored and supers take it your gal is no better than G.W. i guess she learned more than just her love of war from g.w..

[pnwmom]

104. NV, 2008: Hillary won the most votes. Obama won the most delegates.

That didn't destroy the party. Why should anything that happens tonight in IA?

[bowens43]

4. yep thats hillary votes not counted but the arrogant egomaniac already declaring victory

how can anyone consider voting for this horrible woman?

[7962]

6. From your lips........

[MyNameGoesHere]

11. I am guessing because your

comment is horrible.

[roguevalley]

40. in conjunction to her actions, not so much

[MyNameGoesHere]

96. She is a flawed

person and a poor choice for you, but horrible is something I would expect from someone not old enough to vote yet. Possible not out of diapers yet.

[roguevalley]

101. I just heard her speak and all I heard was "I' fifteen hundred times. No we, just I.

[trillion]

107. +10000. I can't believe people on a site like this would support her. TPP, Wallstreet, war and all.

[RoccoR5955]

23. Because it's her time

and they want a woman president. They want a queen.

[Darb]

32. Good gawd man, get a grip.

"how can anyone consider voting for this horrible woman?" That is a tad bit over the top and counter-productive. Try not to act too much like the Republicans in your pursuit to win the office. Bernie doesn't talk that shit and neither should you.

Damn. Calm the fuck down.

[SusanCalvin]

46. True.

I dislike her intensely, but I will try to refrain from "horrible." And I will, if necessary, vote, work, contribute, etc., etc., etc.

[Darb]

52. Could you explain why such intensity?

Just curious. I am hoping there are real reasons, not pretend reasons. If you would be so kind.

[SusanCalvin]

60. Too late for me to do supporting research now.

You know, I was going to cite everything I remember off the top of my head, but my turning point was the "I'm OK, McCain's OK, but I dunno about that Obama guy." Caused me to make my first-ever pre-general contribution. To Obama.

[Darb]

63. I'll just take your word for it, that you've got more

than that.

[SusanCalvin]

72. Well, I did think saying she and an R were OK,

but she didn't know about her D opponent (that's the way I heard it at the time) was pretty major.

[Darb]

75. OK

I hope you won't vote Repube or sit it out if Bernie doesn't make it.

[SusanCalvin]

78. Good God. Of course not. I just hope for better. nt

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

94. It's true! She did say this about McCain and Obama. And we know that the Clintons are friends

with the Bushes and the McCains.

[Darb]

99. I don't doubt she said it. It just doesn't reach the level of "intensely" for me.

Being friends with McCain because they served as colleagues in the Senate doesn't bother me that much either. As for friends with the Bush's, well, I think that is more Bill and it has a great deal to do with the fact that they ex-presidents and do things together, like for charity etc.

Remember, Hillary is not Bill, and Bill is not Hillary. Giving money to their charity doesn't mean they are taking it as a bribe, it means that it is money going to a good cause. As for the speaking engagements, those happen because she could be President, not to mention was the Senator from NY (which is where Wall Street is, derrrr), and Secretary of State. She is a big hitter. One of the biggest. Read whatever you want into that, but that doesn't make it real.

[santafe52]

54. because

there are people like you.

[jmowreader]

66. This is why

It's Hillary or this guy. Your choice.

[JohnnyRingo]

92. I've been driven to her by people like you.

The vile comments about Hillary have made me feel for her and I don't want anyone to think I'm one of the Bernie's supporters who appear to take notes from Rush Limbaugh.

I began last year not especially fond of Ms Clinton but was eventually repulsed by Sanders' supporters here on DU who call her everything but a feminazi. Lately they've even gone after her husband calling him one of the worst presidents in history. I rather like Bernie, but I don't want to be associated with supporters like you.

[mckara]

5. Desperation Sets In!

[Blue State Bandit]

7. Yeee haaaa!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

8. Saw that with an 11 vote difference.

As I was watching it went down to a 10 vote difference.



Headline should be "Hillary Declares Mission Accomplished".

[7962]

14. Now just 7

[Spitfire of ATJ]

17. Saw that. This is hilarious. This isn't "winner take all" either. It's a TIE.

[7962]

35. Yes, and she's been projected to win from the start, right?

I know Sanders has been leading in NH, but has he ever been leading in Iowa?
But if she "wins", they'll claim a HUGE upset victory!

If I was advising Bernie & she does end up with a 50/49, I'd tell him to say "Nobody gave us a chance in Iowa, and we pretty much tied at the end. I'd say the future looks bright"

[Spitfire of ATJ]

70. I wouldn't even say that. Let her arrogance send it's own message.

[SusanCalvin]

29. OK, that's hilarious.

Not that it's meaningful at this point, but I'd love it if Bernie did edge her out.

[StrictlyRockers]

9. It's bullshit. There are still tons of precincts to count, many large precincts that are pro-Bernie

Declaring victory now is way premature.

[CountAllVotes]

16. +1,000 !!!

Nailed!

[Fiendish Thingy]

21. Yeah, I'm confused- Repubs have 10's of thousands of votes, but Dems barely 1k? N/t

[Duckhunter935]

30. those are not votes

[Fiendish Thingy]

36. Well, what are they?

AP calls them votes, and they're not delegates, and they're not precincts, so what are they?

[Duckhunter935]

39. delegate counts

[Fiendish Thingy]

43. Iowa has over a thousand delegates to the convention?

[JimDandy]

56. 1681 delegates who go on to the next level. n/t

[Fiendish Thingy]

61. Then why does the graphic in post# 3 show delegates split at 19 each? N/t

[JimDandy]

77. I believe they are projecting out for the Dems National Convention

So these 1681 delegates get winnowed out at the county level and then the state level. Those 2 sets of numbers together are the total # of Iowa state delegates that go to the national convention. Technically, at any level the delegates can switch sides, but it would be very poor form to do that (they'd be skinned alive by their supporters) so the 1681 can for all practical purposes be reduced right now to the state delegate count.

[Fiendish Thingy]

89. Thank You. Is there any data on actual turnout?

Do we know how many Dem caucusers showed up?

[JimDandy]

95. No and it's a little odd that they aren't releasing turnout numbers

along with the delegate numbers. The Repulicans have released theirs.

[LongTomH]

10. The larger precincts, with heavy Sanders support, have yet to report!

Edited to add: 501% HRC - 49.3 - 0.8% differential according to Bernie2016TV

[CountAllVotes]

19. Still almost 15% to go!

Ms. Clinton?

Total Precincts reported in Iowa: 1451 of 1683
No results reported
86%

Results of the Tele-Caucus and the Satellite Caucus are included in the statewide totals.
SELECT A CANDIDATE TO VIEW HIS OR HER PLACE
Clinton
50.0%
Sanders
49.4%

[greiner3]

51. 10:51

Clinton 49.8%

Sanders 49.56%

O'Malley 0.56%

89.53% reporting.

[7962]

12. So the counting isnt done, 50/49, and they declare victory?

They're playing texas hold 'em, and going all in.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

13. In other news Hillary just declared herself President.

[stonecutter357]

15. K&R!

[Javaman]

18. 84% in 8 votes between them. still too close to call. nt

[CountAllVotes]

20. +1,000 !!!

n/t

[SusanCalvin]

34. Hey, that's just according to us peons.... nt

[Odin2005]

22. Thanks to using McCarthyist red-baiting.

[Javaman]

24. 86% in they are separated by 7 votes. nt

[Javaman]

25. 87% in. still apart by 7 votes nt

[Javaman]

26. 88% in still apart by 7 votes. nt

[Bradical79]

27. nevermind... got to brush up on how the caucus works :-P -nt

[SusanCalvin]

38. Clinton campaign's stupidity,

if this report is accurate. It would amuse me no end if Bernie did edge her out.

[humbled_opinion]

41. You are missing the fact that

her highness needs people to believe that she is inevitable so the small undecided delegates will switch to her.... she lost and she knows it this is desperation...

[saltpoint]

28. I don't believe the final count is in.

Rather presumptuous of Mrs. Clinton.

[Javaman]

33. 88% of the vote in. now apart by 6 votes. nt

[7962]

42. "Hillary Clinton wins Iowa precinct by coin toss"

http://theweek.com/speedreads/602890/hillary-clinton-wins-iowa-precinct-by-coin-toss

What a landslide

[dlwickham]

62. bet the coin toss was rigged

[Ccarmona]

44. C'Mon HRC

show a little humility. This doesn't become you.

[Javaman]

45. Cnn has them tied now. NBC has the return at 88% with Bernie behind by 6. nt

[Javaman]

47. NBC has them tied now with Bernie behind by 3 votes. nt

[litlbilly]

48. too bad Bernie has more deligates and is within .03, guess who's really gonna win

[litlbilly]

50. Bernie is behind by 3/10th's of one percent and hes got more deligates, 21/19, Bernie wins

[big_dog]

87. just went to a tie 21-21

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/pages/interactives/elections-results-primaries-2016/%23/#d

[JesterCS]

49. Sorry wrong. Bernie 20 Clinton 19 delegates n/t

[James48]

59. Now showing Bernie at 21, Hillary at 19. 89% in.

https://www.google.com/#q=iowa+caucus+results&eob=D/2/short/m.03s0w/

[joeybee12]

53. where's the link?

All you did was get Bernie supporters to spew more hate. Back up what you allegedly saw or heard

[SusanCalvin]

69. Really. Link, please? nt

[Doctor_J]

55. oops

[CountAllVotes]

57. Plaing Texas Hold 'em

ain't gonna work Ms. CLINTON!!!

[Javaman]

58. 90% in 4 votes now separate them. nt

[Javaman]

64. still 90% in. 5 votes now apart nt

[Javaman]

67. Sanders 21 delegates to Clintons 19. nt

[Javaman]

68. 91% in 3 votes apart again. nt

[Javaman]

71. still91% 4 votes apart. nt

[SusanCalvin]

73. LINK???????????? nt

[Schema Thing]

76. you can fuck off now.

[arcane1]

79. But socialist something something!!!11

[bunnies]

81. +1000 n

[Matariki]

93. Results of your Jury Service

On Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:13 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

you can fuck off now.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1333785

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Personal attack.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:20 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Appropriate response to an obvious troll.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Primaries require thick skins.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is really inappropriate. And I would ordinarily hide it. But since the post is directed at a troll, I'm gonna vote to not hide it.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Now, now.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

80. Troll.

Get lost.

[Orrex]

83. In case Schema Thing's post gets hidden, I say you can fuck off, too

DU is contentious enough without adding more lame trolls to the mix.

[Orrex]

91. I miss him already.

[Ccarmona]

85. Go Troll at Fox News

🖕🏼

[Jarqui]

82. What a child she is

[moondust]

86. Presumptuous.

No surprise.

[californiabernin]

90. Good round!

[ucrdem]

97. "I know we can stand up to the gun lobby"

[MrTriumph]

98. She claimed Texas in 2008, but she actually lost Texas

She forgot to count the delegates.

[StevieM]

103. The media declared her the winner in both Texas and Nevada because she got more votes.

Historically, that is the way they proclaim a winner in a state.

In 1992 Bill Clinton suffered a humiliating loss to Jerry Brown, when he was already assumed to be the eventual nominee, even as he garnered a few more delegates than Brown.

And in 2008 Hillary was declared the third place finisher in Iowa, even though she was projected to win one more Convention delegate than John Edwards.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

105. MSNBC calling this a "bad mistake"

Not a good look for Clinton.

[trillion]

106. Wallstreet wins. what a bummer.