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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:11 AM Feb 2016

The two Democratic parties fight to a draw in Iowa

Source: Washington Post

Entrance polling showed the Democratic party of Bernie Sanders is younger (he earned about six times as much support as Clinton from those under 30), more liberal (he got 6 in 10 of the vote from those who called themselves “very liberal”) and slightly more male, according to preliminary entrance polls. ... Their motivations were different. Sanders voters wanted honesty and empathy. Clinton voters wanted experience and the ability to win in November.

In 2008, Barack Obama’s caucus win was powered by a surge of new voters in Iowa who accounted for a majority of the electorate. Had Sanders seen a similar surge, he’d have been the clear winner, as he got the vote of about 6 in 10 of those who’d never caucused before. But most voters in this year’s caucuses had done so before, and a majority of them favored Clinton. ...Sanders, though, was strongly preferred by those looking for someone that cares about people like them, getting support from 3 out of 4 voters citing that quality. Among voters looking for an honest candidate, Sanders did even better, earning the support of about 4 in 5 Democrats prioritizing that trait.



Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/01/what-we-can-learn-from-the-iowa-democratic-entrance-poll/

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The two Democratic parties fight to a draw in Iowa (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 OP
Sanders has to do a better job at convincing people he can win in November! thesquanderer Feb 2016 #1
Battling to a tie in IA and winning in NH will turn that around Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #3
He just needs to get on the news so the 55+ can see him and hear him. trillion Feb 2016 #8
also, needs to register/get out young adults and talk about experience more wordpix Feb 2016 #14
Actually since at least the 70's. More like 40 years. trillion Feb 2016 #17
Youth Vote Eatacig Feb 2016 #2
. tk2kewl Feb 2016 #4
So now we're upset the under 30 demographic is showing up? Earth_First Feb 2016 #5
can Hillary win via constantly torching the base? JPnoodleman Feb 2016 #6
Give it a rest. We get it. Darb Feb 2016 #7
When a poster told me Hillary is a progressive today I nearly blocked them as a troll. trillion Feb 2016 #10
Do you remember Hillarycare? Darb Feb 2016 #11
Do you remember when we voted Obamacare in? It was because we couldn't get it in without it being a trillion Feb 2016 #12
I'm not against single payer, but I am not sure Darb Feb 2016 #15
+10000 trillion Feb 2016 #9
If you are a new hire trainer you aren't doing a very good job snooper2 Feb 2016 #16
I think I read ambigous posts are a against the rules. What are you talking about? trillion Feb 2016 #18
When the watermelon rose great needles of sweat found Vermont lazy. snooper2 Feb 2016 #20
Welcome to my block list. You have all the charm of a troll. trillion Feb 2016 #21
AGAIN! snooper2 Feb 2016 #22
"Torching the base"? My god, does the HYPERBOLE on your side EVER end? RBInMaine Feb 2016 #13
I think her latest example of this was trying to convince the bay single payer isn't really an trillion Feb 2016 #19
Congratulations! Ana Hauhet Feb 2016 #23
I'm for Bernie. 840high Feb 2016 #24

thesquanderer

(13,053 posts)
1. Sanders has to do a better job at convincing people he can win in November!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:15 AM
Feb 2016

Polls support it, as do Hillary's high unfavorables and the risk of another email revelation. But it looks like that wasn't the perception in Iowa...

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
3. Battling to a tie in IA and winning in NH will turn that around
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:46 AM
Feb 2016

Especially considering the resources Hillary had to put into IA and the fact that Bernie's momentum was still building at the time of the caucus.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
8. He just needs to get on the news so the 55+ can see him and hear him.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:44 AM
Feb 2016

Look how far he's gotten with barely any news coverage.

Maybe now he'll get some.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
14. also, needs to register/get out young adults and talk about experience more
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:18 AM
Feb 2016

he has just as much experience as Hillary, but in a different way. He's been in the House and Senate for something like 30 years.

JPnoodleman

(454 posts)
6. can Hillary win via constantly torching the base?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:00 AM
Feb 2016

I mean if her and her compatriots are going to play "kick the leftie!" then will she have a base to speak of come Nov.

I don't think Clinton is electable.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
10. When a poster told me Hillary is a progressive today I nearly blocked them as a troll.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:48 AM
Feb 2016

Maybe in 1990 or 1995 she was a progressive. Being against going to universal health care kind of ended her for me. Don't get me wrong, her new found very progressive agenda which I call trying to get votes, is definitely convincing a lot of people. My opinion of progressives is they aren't pro wallstreet to the point that they're her super pac though. I did end up blocking that person when they started saying crap that was personally offensive.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
11. Do you remember Hillarycare?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:57 AM
Feb 2016

Was that better or worse than Obamacare?

(Sorry to use the Repubic pejoratives for those plans, just using the shortcut. BTW, did you notice they went right out and named it Obamacare? I think they did that because they had so much success killing the last attempt by calling it Hillarycare. You see, they aren't stupid. they knew they could get half their base to not even consider Obamacare because they are racists. Just like they could get half or better to not consider Hillarycare because they are misogynists. If it ain't broke.)

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
12. Do you remember when we voted Obamacare in? It was because we couldn't get it in without it being a
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:11 AM
Feb 2016

gift to insurance companies, but we knew it was a start to get to universal health care. We got it in, we need to move forward now and get to single payer. That was the plan when we voted Obamacare in. Middle class America cannot afford a 4k-12k deductible. It's time to throw insurance companies out of our health care. I find it interesting that the people I know telling me how our nations health care would suffer both went to Mexico to get their dentures a few years ago.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
15. I'm not against single payer, but I am not sure
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:49 AM
Feb 2016

you can get there from here. That's a lot of jobs you are talking about in the health insurance field. Unnecessary, bloated, redundant, and sometimes overpaid, but lots and lots of them nonetheless.

Single payer needs to be sold better. It could kill Bernie if he doesn't come up with a better explanation of how it is possible and why it is better. So far, he has not done so. Remember, you are talking about eliminating an entire industry and putting it in the hands of the government. The health insurance business is not going down without a huge fight, and they have allies, you know, the whole slippery slope argument. Good gawd the rhetoric is nauseating to even think about.

I am not so sure that an incremental move toward less private insurance, or a public option is not the way to go. It is just one aspect of Bernie's positions that are not going to sell as well in the general as they do in an Iowa primary.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
19. I think her latest example of this was trying to convince the bay single payer isn't really an
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:08 AM
Feb 2016

option. Who are these defeatists who believe that anyway. It comes by how it's packaged. I can't think of any republican issue that they would shy from because half the country wouldn't like it.

 

Ana Hauhet

(67 posts)
23. Congratulations!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:46 AM
Feb 2016

Congratulations to both candidates. Both need to continue. Let the people talk with their votes. I am for HRC!
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