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Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 03:04 PM Feb 2016

Iowa Democratic Party reviewing results in caucuses

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) ... Hillary Clinton claimed a narrow victory over Bernie Sanders in the first-in-the-nation voting state on Monday, winning 49.9% to 49.6%, or the equivalent of about four state delegates.

Sam Lau, a spokesman for the state Democratic Party, told CNN Saturday that "both the Sanders and Clinton campaigns have flagged a very small number of concerns for us, and we are looking at them all on a case-by-case basis. We are still in the review process of gathering information and speaking with local leaders."... The Des Moines Register first reported the review.... The Register called for an audit of the results in an editorial on Friday.... Sanders was asked about the controversy at Thursday's Democratic debate hosted by MSNBC.

"We think, by the way, based on talking to our precinct captains, we may have at least two more delegates," Sanders said. "At the end of the day, no matter how it's recounted, it will break roughly even."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/06/politics/democratic-party-iowa-caucuses-results-review/index.html



It saddens me that Iowa's Republican party had a similar discrepancy in 2012 (Romney declares victory prematurely and the final results proved that the early declaration was not only premature but incorrect) and Iowa's Republican party responded with more openness in 2012 than Iowa's Democratic party is responding with now.
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Iowa Democratic Party reviewing results in caucuses (Original Post) Vote2016 Feb 2016 OP
They should. There is going to be another Presidential election in 4 years. If they don't clean up jillan Feb 2016 #1
Hopefully, we won't need to pick a candidate in 2020, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #3
You should see the democratic party run from this shit in florida... ViseGrip Feb 2016 #2
The Iowa Democratic Party needs to bring in a group that is fully independent. SoapBox Feb 2016 #4
Especially considering the iowa dem chair has vanity plates on her car that read HRC 2016 peacebird Feb 2016 #5
Not Well Handled elljay Feb 2016 #6
I've lost faith in the party Yeager29 Feb 2016 #7
One might think that our best interests would be served by GeoWilliam750 Feb 2016 #10
Agree. Bernin Feb 2016 #13
Not only east coasters but both from New England- LiberalElite Feb 2016 #14
Well they called the Republican winner wrong twice in '12. Took way over a week to get the real silvershadow Feb 2016 #8
Now we have another LiberalElite Feb 2016 #15
I heard one of the apps had something to do with comparing numbers being off. Gregorian Feb 2016 #9
"What happened Monday night at the Democratic caucuses was a debacle, period." red dog 1 Feb 2016 #11
Send Jimmy Carter a Valentines card, yes! How about to send Carter to monitor the next Iowa caucus? Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #12
Good idea! red dog 1 Feb 2016 #17
This story has gotten MAJOR legs. I hope it knocks the email scandal off the news for a few cycles! Vote2016 Feb 2016 #16

jillan

(39,451 posts)
1. They should. There is going to be another Presidential election in 4 years. If they don't clean up
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 03:24 PM
Feb 2016

this mess THIS will be part of the story leading into Iowa in 2020.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,282 posts)
3. Hopefully, we won't need to pick a candidate in 2020, ...
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 03:28 PM
Feb 2016

... just focus on re-electing the Democratic president.

So 2024 should be the next big Iowa test.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
4. The Iowa Democratic Party needs to bring in a group that is fully independent.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 03:43 PM
Feb 2016

Anything less, is the fox in the hen house...and gives them no credibility. Period.

I support Bernie but I just want the honest truth...I can deal with honest results.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
5. Especially considering the iowa dem chair has vanity plates on her car that read HRC 2016
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 04:10 PM
Feb 2016

I'm sure she's not biased or anything. Was on Hillary's 08 campaign too.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
6. Not Well Handled
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 04:24 PM
Feb 2016

When there are accusations of impropriety, the best way to handle it is to immediately and impartially investigate. I don't have enough info to say whether the results will change substantially or not. It doesn't matter - the narrative from Iowa that continues to be in the news is that the caucuses were not fair. This doesn't help the Democratic Party, or either candidate. The Iowa Party needs to get ahead of this story and clean everything up so we all can move on.

 

Yeager29

(26 posts)
7. I've lost faith in the party
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 04:29 PM
Feb 2016

Hello Bernie and goodbye HRC. We need to sink that ship and save the best we can while we can. Bernie & Warren 2016.

GeoWilliam750

(2,519 posts)
10. One might think that our best interests would be served by
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 06:02 PM
Feb 2016

Warren being either the Secretary of the Treasury or Commerce, or perhaps Justice.

Sitting on the sidelines for four years may not be the best use of one of the best assets of the Democratic party and the American people.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
8. Well they called the Republican winner wrong twice in '12. Took way over a week to get the real
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 04:41 PM
Feb 2016

results. And accuracy matters. It affects people's thinking and understanding. Iowa has become something of a joke.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
9. I heard one of the apps had something to do with comparing numbers being off.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 05:49 PM
Feb 2016

At least it was on tv. We could get some sense of what was going on.

Now if ever there was a good example of why elections should be open, it's this. Bernie got on top of it before it began to snowball. I posted something suggesting an audit, and people immediately clamped down, saying it wouldn't work or shouldn't happen. That's like running an experiment with a few less sensors than is required in order to confirm results.

This problem is up to Dems to fix. In case anyone has doubts about that, just watch a republican debate. Do they sound like they can solve problems? I didn't think so.

red dog 1

(27,647 posts)
11. "What happened Monday night at the Democratic caucuses was a debacle, period."
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 06:42 PM
Feb 2016

the Des Moines Register editorial board wrote..

(From the OP cited CNN article)

"The Iowa Democratic caucuses were so messy that the votes need to be recounted immediately, Iowa's largest newspaper declared on Thursday."

That doesn't sound like " a very small number of concerns for us" as the spokesman for the state Democratic party (Sam Lau) told CNN on Saturday.


Good journalism by the Des Moines Register's editorial board!


K&R, thanks for posting

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
16. This story has gotten MAJOR legs. I hope it knocks the email scandal off the news for a few cycles!
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:02 PM
Feb 2016
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