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hoosierlib

(710 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:16 PM Feb 2016

Citing donations, critics say Lynch shouldn’t decide on Clinton probe

Source: The Hill

Critics of the Obama administration say Attorney General Loretta Lynch should be disqualified from overseeing the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email server because of the more than $10,000 she has given to Democrats in recent years.

With Republicans already calling for a special prosecutor to monitor the probe, conservatives are pouncing on the past campaign contributions as evidence of bias.

“The latest assertion from her allies that Loretta Lynch is not ‘political’ is totally untrue,” said David Bossie, the president of conservative advocacy organization Citizens United in a statement to The Hill. “In fact, she’s been a regular financial contributor to Democrat candidates, including to her current boss, Barack Obama.”

Former colleagues of Lynch’s described her to The Hill as a hard-nosed lawyer who rarely discussed politics in her previous jobs.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/268705-citing-donations-critics-say-lynch-shouldnt-decide-on-clinton-probe



Conflict of interest or not? Thoughts?
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Citing donations, critics say Lynch shouldn’t decide on Clinton probe (Original Post) hoosierlib Feb 2016 OP
I would leave the donations aside -- as a political appointee alone she seems unsuited JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #1
First of all, it's the AG's JOB to prosecute ANY person, including top Government officials. napi21 Feb 2016 #3
Did I fault her in my post? I specifically said to leave the question of donations alone, ffs. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #4
It seems to fall under the circumstances 28 CFR 600 addresses. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #10
I am reminded of the West Wing when Bartlet allowed his opposition to pick the special counsel. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #11
Yes, I am sure the Republicans can be trusted to pick someone who is impartial cstanleytech Feb 2016 #18
The point is to show that you are trying to be impartial JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #19
If she had been given money ya or if she gave to Clintons campaign? Maybe but she did not do cstanleytech Feb 2016 #22
I suggest you read what I have said in this very thread. I specifically ignored money. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #23
Either way it doesnt matter. There has to justification that supports her removal and cstanleytech Feb 2016 #27
The justification is clear -- a political appointee can be leaned on (or thought to be so) JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #28
that would not happen 6chars Feb 2016 #32
Exactly. n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #40
It's not her removal - under the reg, she picks someone to deal with the matter. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #45
Hillery is NOT presently a top government official. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #21
Others differ, on substance and in view. I respect your position though. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #24
It would make sense to recuse herself and delegate the decision to a DOJ career employee. n/t 24601 Feb 2016 #2
yes 840high Feb 2016 #6
I would agree that she should step down on this Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #5
She should step aside. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #7
She absolutely should not. There is nothing the Rethugs can do except blow hot air. pnwmom Feb 2016 #34
Sure, she should step aside . . FairWinds Feb 2016 #8
An actual conflict of interest H2O Man Feb 2016 #9
In which case most of the House and Senate should immediately step down. n/t pnwmom Feb 2016 #35
Definitely. H2O Man Feb 2016 #38
The opinions of David Bossie, a right wing hit man, do not interest me. Kingofalldems Feb 2016 #12
Keep digging, but it won't change anything. All that posts like this do is damage our (presumed)... George II Feb 2016 #13
I would tend to stay away from any hint of censorship in this case. totodeinhere Feb 2016 #26
I think the fairest way to settle it is to ask one of the folks here at DU to preside still_one Feb 2016 #14
Oh and the article mentioned the oh-so-ethical David Bossie: Kingofalldems Feb 2016 #15
Here is another article on David Bossie: Kingofalldems Feb 2016 #16
Are david brock hit pieces now disallowed as well? Just curious. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #17
I certainly don't post them. Kingofalldems Feb 2016 #37
Let me guess...they want Ken Starr jmowreader Feb 2016 #20
Nonsense, they are clearly only pushing because they want a impartial investigation. cstanleytech Feb 2016 #25
Okay, let's go at it this way... jmowreader Feb 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Midnight Writer Feb 2016 #30
LOL! Now find a Federal Prosecutor who has never made a donation to either party. Midnight Writer Feb 2016 #31
Oh I am sure there are some but imo what this is really about is cstanleytech Feb 2016 #39
He's not going to offer them Hillary's head on a silver platter, pnwmom Feb 2016 #33
Doesn't the AG pick the special prosecutor? OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #36
Jury's in Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #41
Huh, "the curious incident of the dog in the night-time" Babel_17 Feb 2016 #42
Absolutely a conflict of interest... but it won't go anywhere... TipTok Feb 2016 #43
No Republican donor / supporter should lead the investigation - that would be biased! n/t vkkv Feb 2016 #44

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
1. I would leave the donations aside -- as a political appointee alone she seems unsuited
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:18 PM
Feb 2016

I would leave the donations aside -- as a political appointee alone she seems unsuited to make a decision on prosecuting a top government official.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
3. First of all, it's the AG's JOB to prosecute ANY person, including top Government officials.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:23 PM
Feb 2016

But, more than that, WHY in the world would you fault a Democrat of contributing to other Democrats? That's like saying Why in the world are there almond on that damn almond tree?

Foolish argument all around.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
4. Did I fault her in my post? I specifically said to leave the question of donations alone, ffs.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:24 PM
Feb 2016

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
10. It seems to fall under the circumstances 28 CFR 600 addresses.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:52 PM
Feb 2016
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/part-600

It would be better for the president if she went the special counsel route.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
11. I am reminded of the West Wing when Bartlet allowed his opposition to pick the special counsel.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:54 PM
Feb 2016

cstanleytech

(28,473 posts)
18. Yes, I am sure the Republicans can be trusted to pick someone who is impartial
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:46 AM
Feb 2016

to investigate Clinton

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
19. The point is to show that you are trying to be impartial
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:55 AM
Feb 2016

I understand not going so far as letting the Republicans pick an investigator. But appointing someone seems appropriate.

cstanleytech

(28,473 posts)
22. If she had been given money ya or if she gave to Clintons campaign? Maybe but she did not do
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:14 AM
Feb 2016

either of those things so I think a call to ask her to recuse herself is premature just because she gave money to people of x political party.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
23. I suggest you read what I have said in this very thread. I specifically ignored money.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:16 AM
Feb 2016

Not sure why you're addressing those points to me.

cstanleytech

(28,473 posts)
27. Either way it doesnt matter. There has to justification that supports her removal and
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:30 AM
Feb 2016

currently all there is just the opinion of some people and some of those clearly would be happier with someone who actually is biased against Clinton.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
28. The justification is clear -- a political appointee can be leaned on (or thought to be so)
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:39 AM
Feb 2016

by politicians.

That is enough for many.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
45. It's not her removal - under the reg, she picks someone to deal with the matter.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:05 PM
Feb 2016

That person then proceeds independently, which takes a load off her and a load off the President.

It is really essential that they do this. The situation has gone too far and is too politically charged not to appoint a special counsel.

If the special counsel decides not to proceed, it will be very favorable for Clinton, which is important in an election. If the special counsel decides to proceed, I am sure the decision will be made after the election.

The only reason NOT to appoint a special counsel is that A) Prosecution is justified, and B) The intent is to prevent it. That is not a good strategy in American politics.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
21. Hillery is NOT presently a top government official.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:11 AM
Feb 2016

I don't think that should be a consideration, even if she was.

24601

(4,142 posts)
2. It would make sense to recuse herself and delegate the decision to a DOJ career employee. n/t
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:22 PM
Feb 2016

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
34. She absolutely should not. There is nothing the Rethugs can do except blow hot air.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:22 AM
Feb 2016

They can try impeaching the second Democratic President in a row -- for not caving in to their demands -- but they will never get a conviction in the Senate. And they will be revealed for the nincompoops they are.

H2O Man

(79,053 posts)
9. An actual conflict of interest
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:50 PM
Feb 2016

should not be the standard here. The bar should be set at the appearance of a possible conflict of interest.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Keep digging, but it won't change anything. All that posts like this do is damage our (presumed)...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:59 PM
Feb 2016

....collective interest in defeating the republican candidate.

Why are we discussing so-called "critics" of Democrats anyway?

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
26. I would tend to stay away from any hint of censorship in this case.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:24 AM
Feb 2016

If the collective DU community agrees with you then this thread will be ignored and it will sink like a rock. But if we are interested in discussing this then so be it. And I don't think it will hurt Bernie's chances in November anyway.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
14. I think the fairest way to settle it is to ask one of the folks here at DU to preside
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:00 AM
Feb 2016

We can almost be certain they won't be bias for Hillary

The concern here is so touching

cstanleytech

(28,473 posts)
25. Nonsense, they are clearly only pushing because they want a impartial investigation.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:18 AM
Feb 2016

BTW I have a lovely bridge that I'm looking to sale in San Fransisco overlooking the bay with a truly gorgeous view, I dont suppose you would be interested?

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
29. Okay, let's go at it this way...
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:42 AM
Feb 2016

You are a business owner who has a house. You decide to go on vacation, and leave your key with a trusted employee so the plants can be watered and fish fed. The day after you get on the plane, your "trusted employee" starts cooking meth in your garage. Would it be proper for the police to seize and sell your house because meth was being cooked there against your wishes?

There have ALREADY been a number of impartial investigations of Hillary's server. All of them have concluded Hillary didn't put the information which was retroactively classified on it. This is starting to look like the three hundredth Obamacare repeal bill the GOP tried to file.

Response to jmowreader (Reply #29)

cstanleytech

(28,473 posts)
39. Oh I am sure there are some but imo what this is really about is
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:21 AM
Feb 2016

a combination of them trying to smear Clinton indirectly before the election if she should win the nomination and also they want the ability to appoint their own "special" prosecutor who they probably hope will be able to pull a Ken Starr and nail her for something no matter how minor.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
33. He's not going to offer them Hillary's head on a silver platter,
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:20 AM
Feb 2016

to hand over to one of their Special Prosecutors. And they can't force President Obama's hand.

They could make him the 2nd Democratic President in a row to be impeached -- indicted -- but he would then be the 2nd Democratic President in a row to not be convicted in the Senate. They would need a 2/3 vote to do that and they would never have it.

But they won't even try because it backfired on them last time they tried.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
36. Doesn't the AG pick the special prosecutor?
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 04:27 AM
Feb 2016

I seem to recall Mukasey picking the special prosecutor to investigate the US Attorney scandal.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
41. Jury's in
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:11 PM
Feb 2016

FWIW, I was #4:


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Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
42. Huh, "the curious incident of the dog in the night-time"
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:19 PM
Feb 2016
Gregory (Scotland Yard detective): "Is there any other point to which you would wish to draw my attention?"
Holmes: "To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time."
Gregory: "The dog did nothing in the night-time."
Holmes: "That was the curious incident."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventure_of_Silver_Blaze

A spokeswoman for the Justice Department has said that career prosecutors and investigators are working on the Clinton case and that a special prosecutor is not warranted.


What happened to just laughing off such questions? If the FBI says they could find no suggestion of criminality, there's nothing for the DOJ to think about. What happened to that line of reasoning? Could be basically just a click bait article, or maybe nobody would volunteer a quote predicting all this was soon going away. Though it could be both.

More importantly, are those being quoted hearing anything that we aren't?
 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
43. Absolutely a conflict of interest... but it won't go anywhere...
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:20 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton is banking on those connections to see her through this.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
44. No Republican donor / supporter should lead the investigation - that would be biased! n/t
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:24 PM
Feb 2016
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