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trillion

(1,859 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:22 AM Feb 2016

Bernie Sanders wins N.H. handily, as Democrats settle in for a long race

Source: Yahoo News

Note: the article changed and is much bigger now and this post changes to reflect the article.

The Democratic race was over the second that polls closed in New Hampshire at 8 p.m. EST Tuesday night, when Vermont independent Sen. Bernie Sanders was instantly declared the winner.

By the time all the votes had been counted, five hours later, Sanders had defeated his rival Hillary Clinton by a eye-popping 21 percentage points, the largest margin of victory in a contested Democratic primary in the Granite State since the start of the modern era.

To be sure, the chattering classes “expected” Sanders to triumph Tuesday. He had been leading in opinion surveys for months, and New Hampshire borders his home state.

Still, it’s worth stepping back for a moment to reflect on how improbable this result — a Bernie Sanders primary victory — seemed just a short time ago.

When Sanders announced his presidential bid back in April, with a ramshackle press conference in the shadow of the U.S. Capitol, almost no one in Washington, D.C., took him seriously. At the time, Sanders was averaging 5.6 percent in the national polls; Clinton was averaging 62.2 percent. As recently as Dec. 1, Clinton was leading Sanders by more than 4 percentage points in New Hampshire and more than 10 percentage points in Iowa . Clinton was supposed to be inevitable; Sanders, a Democratic socialist, was supposed to be inconsequential.




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trillion

(1,859 posts)
1. "She promised to crack down on corporations and address unfair global trade practices. "
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:30 AM
Feb 2016

This is rich since she's the corporate candidate beholding to her Wall Street masters who pay for her and she helped write the TPP.

The rest of it shows that Bernie is in charge of her dialog. And that her flailing campaign is going to now use unicorns and rainbows to describe Bernies policies which are actually to de-regulate Wall Street and get insurance companies out our health care.

I think she has been caught red handed and has a completely empty defense and campaign. She says she's going to go out stop Wall Street corruption including in campaign financing .... right. They own her. Lets see if she starts by giving them back the money they are spending on her campaign.

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trillion

(1,859 posts)
3. No, she didn't. This page you are linking to is the Unicorns and Rainbows.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:36 AM
Feb 2016

It's to try to keep her supporters in the game.

Look, she is bought by the .01 percent. You might not know what a super pac is or what her list of previous funders mean but most people do know. It means when she stands up and says she's going to stop Wall Street corruption she's lying through her teeth.

Why are you supporting the corporate candidate of the .01 percent? Do you REALLY believe she's going to support you and not them? I believe she will continue to help them take every dime we have - through mortgage fraud, health care insurance corruption, stock corruption, corporate corruption where they pay zero in taxes and so much more. That isn't unicorns and rainbows

johnnyrocket

(1,773 posts)
9. Hillary supporters: stop with the nonsense!
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 08:16 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary sucks as a candidate and is running a sucky campaign. On top of that, Sanders is the better candidate and has a real message for the people.

So enough with the damn excuses for Hillary.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
5. I didn't think so. It showed up on Yahoo News and it appears to be reporting facts and quoting
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:19 AM
Feb 2016

people, not giving the writers opinion.

GreydeeThos

(958 posts)
6. The race for the nomination may not be as long as some people think
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:41 AM
Feb 2016

There have been two primaries: Iowa and New Hampshire.

Bernie won in New Hampshire; Hillary won in Iowa.

Delegate count is 36 for Bernie and 32 for Hillary, except if you include the Super Delegates then it is 42 for Bernie but only 394 for Hillary.

Bernie received his well deserved and expected win in New Hampshire due in no small part to the enthusiasm from his newly found supporters. Hillary is slogging along with the support she has been cultivating for a decade.

I expect the enthusiasm for Bernie to fade in the face of a never ending campaign while the hardened political machine Hillary has constructed to continue at an unrelenting pace all the way to victory. Bernie will be suspending his campaign shortly after the close of the Florida primary March 15.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
8. super delegates are not cast in iron.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:32 AM
Feb 2016

they don't count until the convention.

A lot can happen between then and now. I didn't even bother to try to donate to Bernie last night. Waiting for the system to be more available...

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
10. I think you're missing how utterly unhinged and unstable Hillary's campaign is.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:51 PM
Feb 2016

She is looking at Wall Street replacing her for someone better. That gap that is closing between Bernie and Hillary nationally means she is in a precarious position at best. If you watch her recent campaign speechs, she's going nuts and is all over the board trying to grasp at convincing people she's the candidate that isn't for Wall Street and how she'll wring them in and stop campaign corruption (she says this while financing her campaign on their superpacs.) Her concession speech was terrible, it all focused on Bernie. That's not who she should have been focusing on.

regnaD kciN

(26,067 posts)
11. Ah, yes...the old "superdelegates have already decided the race" argument...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:57 AM
Feb 2016

I remember hearing that from HRC supporters before. Now, when was it? Oh, yes...2008.

Specifically, I remember a gloating post just after Obama won Iowa, with Clinton finishing third. The point of the poster was that it didn't matter, because HRC's huuuuuuuuuge number of superdelegates meant she already had the race locked up, and needed to only keep it close in most large states throughout the campaign to have such an insurmountable lead that all of her rivals would bow to her inevitability and gracefully drop out, probably as early as right after Super Tuesday.

How'd that work out for you guys?

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