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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:42 PM Feb 2016

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jeff47

(26,549 posts)
1. No, she doesn't.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:44 PM
Feb 2016

Superdelegates are not guaranteed. They routinely change their vote before the convention.

For example, John Lewis pledged he'd support Clinton in 2008. He voted for Obama at the convention, because his district overwhelmingly voted for Obama.

Fearless

(18,458 posts)
2. This is false.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:44 PM
Feb 2016
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
3. Now we know what 'rigged' means.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:45 PM
Feb 2016

Gosh, those elite Dems sure know how to fuck over the voters, eh?

Thanks for this proof of how the people are hated by the elites.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
14. Bingo. nt
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:54 PM
Feb 2016
 

840high

(17,196 posts)
20. Yep
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:10 PM
Feb 2016

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
4. Gee, that's a very "democratic"
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:45 PM
Feb 2016

way of conducting an election - the will of the people be damned.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
5. Keep these stories going and it will only increase anger against Hillary.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:45 PM
Feb 2016
 

saturnsring

(1,832 posts)
6. youre gonna upset the berniebros
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:46 PM
Feb 2016

frylock

(34,825 posts)
9. You're going to upset independents that will say fuck your party..
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:50 PM
Feb 2016

and stay home.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
16. Absolutely.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:58 PM
Feb 2016

...can't win without respecting Independents.

But the DWS/HRC Third Way Dem crowd...is too obsessed with their "loyalty" thing.

Stuckinthebush

(11,203 posts)
17. Uh oh!
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:58 PM
Feb 2016

They will yell sexist slurs now.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
7. Respect for democracy and truth runs deep in the Hillary camp. nt
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:46 PM
Feb 2016

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
8. It's time that the people's revolution respectfully let
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:48 PM
Feb 2016

the Super Delegates know who we want to win the Primary. (on their FB pages.). Super Delegates need to be done away with but that will not happen this time around. In the mean time if there is enough letting them know we want them to endorse Bernie Sanders, they will I believe take stock.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
10. i can go for that. make the pledges transparent on facebook, twitter and instagram
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:51 PM
Feb 2016

works for me, maybe even speeches on vine. contact them on twitter or fb and ask for their support

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
11. We were already aware of how delegates would even the score in NH, even if Bernie killed it.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

Onward. We have an election to win.

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
12. As Bernie racks up primary and caucus wins many of the superdelegates will peel away
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

from Hillary. It has happened before. As you know it's called the "bandwagon effect." IMO if Bernie can get a majority of delegates from the primaries and caucuses the party won't dare deny him the nomination.

PufPuf23

(9,852 posts)
19. Here is a brief overview of superdelegates from wiki
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:00 PM
Feb 2016

Superdelegates are relatively new to the DNC convention and in IMO are biased against populist candidates in candidate selection at the National Convention and during the primary/caucus process (by prematurely revealing excepted votes).

I like the GOPs limited use of the superdelegate versus current Democratic Party rules and use.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate

A "superdelegate" or an "unpledged delegate" is a delegate to the Democratic National Convention or Republican National Convention that is seated automatically, based on their status as current (Republican and Democratic) or former (Democratic only) party leader or elected official. Other superdelegates are chosen during the primary season. All the superdelegates are free to support any candidate for the nomination. This contrasts with convention delegates that are selected based on the party primaries and caucuses in each U.S. state, in which voters choose among candidates for the party's presidential nomination.

Although "superdelegate" was originally coined and created to describe this type of Democratic delegate, the term has become widely used to describe these delegates in both parties,[1] even though it is not an official term used by either party.

For Democrats, superdelegates fall into two categories:
delegates seated based on other positions they hold, who are formally described (in Rule 9.A) as "unpledged party leader and elected official delegates"[2] (unpledged PLEO delegates); and
additional unpledged delegates selected by each state party (in a fixed predetermined number), who are formally described (in Rule 9.B) as "unpledged add-on delegates" and who need not hold any party or elected position before their selection as delegates.[2]

For Republicans, there are generally 3 unpledged delegates in each state, consisting of the state chairman and two RNC committee members.

A common criticism is that unpledged delegates could potentially swing the results to nominate a candidate that did not receive the majority of votes during the primaries.

tonybgood

(218 posts)
13. It's quite easy to fix
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:53 PM
Feb 2016

Write those "superdelegates" in your state and congressional district and tell them that if they do not support the winner of the primary in their state, you will work to defeat them in the general election. That will wake them up!

turbinetree

(27,546 posts)
15. Our Democratic Platform...............................1972-2014 ..........
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:55 PM
Feb 2016
 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
18. why do you put "Financial Times" as source but then link to RT?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:59 PM
Feb 2016

mistake? Fix it please, we don't use RT BS in LBN

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
21. my bad thought it was ft.com
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:12 PM
Feb 2016

n/t

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