Clinton: People wonder if I’m ‘in it for myself’

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Source: The Hill

Democratic primary front-runner Hillary Clinton on Sunday said voters are trying to “sort through” whether she’s only in the presidential race for herself.

“I understand that voters have questions,” Clinton said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “I’m going to do my very best to answer those questions."

"I think there’s an underlying question that is really in the back of people’s minds, and that is, you know, ‘Is she in it for us or is she in it for herself?’” she added.

“I think that’s, you know, a question that people are trying to sort through."

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/270204-clinton-people-wonder-if-im-in-it-for-myself

[pacalo]

1. Like she would tell us. Release those speech transcripts & let us decide.

[840high]

4. Stop taking money from Big Pharma.

[FreakinDJ]

28. Stop taking $Millions from the 3rd Way

their board of Trustees has been donating HEAVILY to Hillary Clinton

Bernard L. Schwartz

$1.0 million

Chairman and chief executive of BLS Investments.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/top-presidential-donors-campaign-money.html

[cannabis_flower]

84. Maybe the reporter

Who has the transcripts will release a couple of them a couple of days before the South Carolina Primary and another a couple of days before Super Tuesday. Pretty p!ease! Hint, hint.

http://iwilllookintoit.com

Maybe she shouldn't think too long.

[mikehiggins]

2. HRC's problem is not with people who wonder if she's in this race just for herself.

Her problem is with the huge number of people who have already made a decision about that question.

[Cassiopeia]

25. I disagree.

There are millions that don't know yet. They need to be informed, encouraged to register, and concerned enough to go to their polling location.

Generally speaking, people are not well informed. It's up to us.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

73. LOL, great response.

[azurnoir]

3. this is so rich I gained weight just reading it

Clinton said she has to make her case to the voters that she’s been consistent on the issues throughout her career in public service.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/270204-clinton-people-wonder-if-im-in-it-for-myself

[pacalo]

6. When will that be? Sounds like an afterthought that should have been already done.

Let us decide for ourselves -- show us the speech transcripts so that we can see what you're like when you're not asking for our votes.

[azurnoir]

8. It'll be one heck of a case to make too

she's been consistent, well if constantly changing I'll give her that

[pacalo]

11. I've never seen her as sleazy but I do now.

"Work hard & you'll be successful, too" doesn't work for those working 2 or 3 jobs just to survive. Her rhetoric is cold. I didn't like it when she was approached by those two BLM kids, either -- "Mmm hmm, mmm hmm." She's not the person I thought she was.

[azurnoir]

12. True I'll admit I've seen her as cold, calculating, petty but not sleazy not as much as recently

[jtuck004]

49. As consistent as a flip-flopping coin. n/t

[Bangbangdem]

16. Time for a...

Hacktavist! This content is out there. Let's get cracking!

[pacalo]

19. But before the primaries are over.

[trillion]

21. You don't need a hactivist. The dirt is in goolge.

Pick any issue other than planned parenthood.

google

hillary fracking
hillary monsanto
hillary gays
hillary honduras
hillary plan columbia
hillary syria
hillary for profit prison
hillary fossil fuels
etc.
etc.

Ther dirt is out there on every google.

[trillion]

20. +10000

[Cassiopeia]

26. My first thought after reading that line was

how the fuck do you do that?

Well, the MSM has been trying really hard since June of '15. They've done well, but still struggle, it's hard to push a ton of bullshit up a 30% grade.

Tied, 3 states in and tied when we we're supposed to be shut down and broke after NH. Funny enough, the only one broke and begging is Clinton.

SC will be another blow. Super tuesday will get ugly, but VA and CO may surprise us. then we get to settle in and see what the super pacs do. If Rubio catches some votes, Hillary may find a real drought in campaign funds.

[jwirr]

58. MSM is no longer as effective at mud slinging against Bernie

as they would have been in 08. This time around we have another source of news. She may sell them a bill of goods to suggest she is for the people but they will not be able to make it stick.

[trillion]

80. +10000

"then we get to settle in and see what the super pacs do. If Rubio catches some votes, Hillary may find a real drought in campaign funds."

And wow, someone who totally _gets_ it.

[daleanime]

5. No we don't....

it's pretty obvious.

[DrBulldog]

7. Yet another gag line that has my ass rolling on the floor . . .

[Feeling the Bern]

9. And now a word from Hillary's sponsors

Big Pharma
Private Prisons
Too Big to Fail Banks
Wall Street
MIC Contractors
For Profit Universities
Big Oil
Big Insurance

Seriously, she should wear a NASCAR jacket with all her corporate sponsors.

And now, back to our regularly scheduled program: Camp Weathervane's daily "How to make our candidate not see what everyone knows she is" campaign, starting all Democratic Party insiders, the DNC elite and the host of our show, Hillary Rodham Clinton!

[trillion]

22. Fracking - she's major into fracking

just google her name and fracking - she's spent a lot of time promoting fracking.

She also has off shore drilling in her super pacs along with fracking

Hillary Clinton Fracking Cash
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brad-johnson/on-eve-of-caucuses-clinto_b_9117712.html

[jtuck004]

50. I have heard Okies using the term "another liffle Hillary" for their fracking-induced earthquakes.

She always claimed to be a mover and a shaker...

[trillion]

82. +10000

[Contrary1]

10. No, she's not only in it for herself...

There's Bill and Chelsea to consider.

[Merryland]

54. Yes, forgot about them... n/t

[Betty Karlson]

13. No, we don't wonder anymore. By now we KNOW it. eom

[mhatrw]

15. People wonder the exact same thing about all of their top 0.1% capitalist masters.

"Are they in it to create jobs for us or are they in it for themselves?’”



People wonder the exact same thing about Dick Cheney and other war profiteers.

"Are they in it to make the world safer for us or are they in it for themselves?’”

[trillion]

17. There are whole sectors in her super pac - fiance industry, fracking industry, banking industry

War industry, Insurance Industry.

She's in it for her super pac.

I think a whole lot of Hillary supporters have a really mistaken idea that she's in it for them though.

I'm sure if you pay her enough she would be.

[trillion]

18. Well, I'm shocked that some of the blacks are questioning if she's in it for herself.

Where on earth would they get that idea?

[Geronimoe]

23. Hillary and Bill made $130 million in two years

because it was offered to them for the good work they used to do for we the people.

[trillion]

46. By who?

Hillary supporters don't give a damn about her massive bad work that tramples over any good work. All the blood on that woman's hands? Toppling a left wing president when she helped orchestrate the Honduras coup and completely destabilizing that country? The UN says she was the key part in causing the Syrian bloodshed because she kept undermining the peace treaty that may have prevented it. "Good works" in her case means helping cause massive death and 3 refugee crises' - Honduras, Columbia and Syria.

[Cassiopeia]

24. Release the Goldman transcripts.

I'm sure that will answer most of our questions.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

74. Goldman Handcuffs prevent her from doing so.

[YOHABLO]

27. I'm still not convinced whether this woman is as altruistic as Sanders. I guess

she is, or it seems as if she is, but wait, oh never mind.

[sarge43]

29. Long past wondering about it. You are. n/t

[demwing]

30. We don't think it

we're already convinced of it, which is why no one trusts you

[djean111]

31. What tripe. I am not trying to "sort through" anything. War, fracking, TPP, cluster bombs -

to name just some of the things Hillary is for and I am against. I don't give a flying fuck not do I waste any time what her motives are - they are power and money. No need to sort through anything.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

32. I don't wonder.

I'm sure.

[JudyM]

33. It's not all or nothing. The question is to what extent.

I think the answer is clearly that the best view of her is that it's 50:50.

Personally I think she started her career with good intentions but was co-opted by the thirst for $ and social power. She grew to thirst for political power as well.

Even if she hasn't lost sight of her more altruistic values - and I don't think she has - she has played the system to such an extent, and flip-flopped to such an extent, and exercised poor judgment bordering on hurting our economy and our national security to such an extent, that her good intentions have been subjugated.

She's still wearing the jacket, but it is positively THREADBARE.
Bernie's is older but looks good as new because he has acted in service of his altruistic values his whole life. Hillary just has it as a blurb on her resume with minimal continuity to today.

[Oneironaut]

34. Oh, I don't wonder.

[friendly_iconoclast]

64. +1, for saying it before I could...

[Vinca]

35. Considering her rhetoric has been "I, I, I," "me, me,me" until the last week,

that's pretty much how it appears. Now she's using Bernie's model - "we, we, we," "our, our, our" - and we're supposed to believe she's not in it for a spot in history.

[Gregorian]

36. Wonder? Only one candidate is doing it for US. And it ain't the Clintons.

[Rebkeh]

37. No, I don't wonder at all

It's pretty obvious by now. She has shown us who she is, I believe her.

[restorefreedom]

39. THIS RIGHT HERE^^^^^ nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

38. You just KNOW the ONLY reason they feel the need to address this is because of a poll.

[jonjon]

40. No doubt in my mind whatsoever

She'll do her best to fuck us over and steal the rest of the furniture.

[Bradical79]

41. Well, she clearly is

If she wins, I'love take her over the other corrupt politicians though. It'll suck not being able to address numerous serious concerns, but at least 2 of the 3 Republicans give me Hitler vibes, and she's not going to roll back any gains under Obama.

[Roland99]

42. oh...we know the answer to that one

[antigop]

43. oh, yes, we do. Indeed we do. nt

[farleftlib]

44. Even her answer is ego-centric

“I’m going to demonstrate that I have always been the same person, fighting for the same values, fighting to make a real difference in people’s lives long before I was ever in elected office, even before my husband was in the presidency,” she said.

“So I know that I have to, you know, make my case,” she continued. “I have to demonstrate what I have achieved.”

Me, me, me, I, I.

How about something along the lines of: this is what I plan to do for the American people. My platform is X, Y and Z.

I'm tired of her reciting her resume every time she's asked a question.

[Nedsdag]

45. Well, to be honest, she is.

If she cannot be honest with herself, how can she be honest running the country?

[Bluenorthwest]

47. Hey Hillary, you and most of your endorsers spent years hindering my family's rights. You did that

for you, certainly not for us. Three years ago you were saying your God does not see us as worthy of equal rights, most of those who are so strongly attacking Bernie Sanders today also attacked LGBT equality, they are the DOMA voters and the last hold outs, the people who kept claiming Jesus was on their side and against us.

So Hillary you and your cohort have never been in it for my family, my community nor for my industry. In fact for most of your career you have openly objected to my rights as have all of your Bernie Bashing Endorsers.

If you got some people who never voted against the rights of others to bash Bernie for you that would be far more convincing. As it is, their past history suggests bias is their guide.

[mikehiggins]

71. Hey, forgive me if this seems sexist or racist or something but

most of the gay guys I know (and I admit I don't know a lot--I wish they'd start wearing special bandanas or something so they wouldn't look so much like the rest of us) are pretty smart people. How does it happen that gays support a candidate who has a record of being against their best interests?

It is, as Yul Brynner might say, a puzzlement. If I could go on YouTube and view her speech about the "Sacred bond between men and women..." what more would there need to be said? How do people choose to ignore the evidence in front of their noses?

[davekriss]

48. Either one of our candidates will make a terrific President

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders stand 1000 feet above the heads and shoulders of any of the Republican candidates. Isn't that obvious to all?

Senator Sanders does more closely cleave to positions I hold, but Secretary Clinton is not that far off that I can't support her. In fact, I can support either enthusiastically. They're great candidates, both of them.

I do believe we should fight it out in the primaries, but I wish we'd do so without injuring whomever is our nominee in the end. It should be a battle of ideas, policies, and positions, not about motives and who is more authentic than who. Just my 2 cents. But once chosen, we really do need to rally around our candidate. I don't think it's too extreme to say that the fate of our planet depends on who occupies the Oval Office on January 20, 2017.

[Merryland]

51. Is she in it for herself?

"That's a question people are still trying to sort through" - Oh my God, that's her answer?? She insanely passive agressive along with so many other charming personality traits.

[hoosierlib]

52. Prove it...where are those Goldman Sachs transcripts?

[SoLeftIAmRight]

53. A play from the book - Frame the debate - no "Kissingers friend" that is not what I wonder...

I know the answer to that question.

[CoffeeCat]

55. Sort through?

Seriously?

HRC is the most well-known politicians in the world. Just ask her supporters how much Hillary has been "vetted."

HRC has been around forever. People have made up their minds about her. Republicans and many Democrats may have very different reasons and rationales for their negative viewpoints of her.

However, it is clear--the majority of our country doesn't like her and doesn't trust her.

I'm sorry, but that cake is baked. A few lofty platitudes during a political campaign won't make a dent in her high negatives.

But thanks, DNC--for leveraging a dud who will lose the GE. We'll see you in hell during the Trump Presidency.

[ananda]

56. It's not a question for me.

She is definitely in it for both herself and for her big money
and corporate backers.

[Plucketeer]

75. That and the fact that

it's HER TURN!

[Kall]

57. It's past wondering

[Dems to Win]

59. $20 million in paid speeches

Hillary cashed in on her public service, now she wants our votes AFTER getting rich.

I do believe this problem was wholly predictable, by anyone with good judgement.

It's just one more glaring example of Hillary's poor judgement.

[DownriverDem]

60. Do some research

As I've been reading the hate against Hillary it is very clear that the haters use RWNJ talking points to attack her. They don't even know her - Attorney, First Lady of AR, First Lady of the US, Senator, Secretary of State She has worked for women and kids for decades. She is the most qualified out of all the candidates running. Folks in Nevada said that they voted for her because of her experience and the fact that she will be electable in November.

Stop the hate. It makes you all look foolish.

[LibDemAlways]

63. Electable? How?

Are Bernie voters going to beat a path to her headquarters to volunteer? Probably not. At best many will hold their noses and vote against the Republican rather than for her. She generates little enthusiasm, represents the status quo, has more personal baggage than a millionaire on a world cruise, and Democratic turnout in the caucuses and primaries has down down thus far -- not a good sign for either candidate. Republicans hate her with a passion. The media is poised to turn on her with a vengeance once she gets the nod. This is a formula for victory? I admire your optimism, but I repectfully disagree.

[notadmblnd]

65. Her little escapade of trashing a young Monika Lewinsky instead of her husband for his infidelities

sure showed me how hard she's worked for and stood up for woman. And all those immigrant kids she'll send back to South America where they came from to avoid being killed- Yep that shows me how hard she'll fight for children.

Gotta love her.

[farleftlib]

81. Hillary is

more of a RWNJ than anybody.

The left, whom she detests passionately, are sick of her neoliberal, warhawk, corporate sellout ways. She and all her followers just recite her resume, posts she was given because of who she's married to and by whom owes her or Bill a favor. She will be trounced badly in Nov. Irretrievably.

Foolish are those who follow a destined loser.

[timmymoff]

61. There is no doubt

I do not wonder if you are in it for yourself. I've been well aware of it since 2008. Your disconnect with us voters shows me who you are in it for. It isn't me and my family.

[thesquanderer]

62. What surprised me about that clip...

...is that that wasn't actually a question she was asked. She actually chose to independently bring up that people are questioning whether she's just in it for herself. The question was more benign than that. I'm surprised that she actually chose to bring that up, which in a way kind of legitimized it as a voter concern. Maybe her internal polls are showing that it's a big issue, and she's trying to get out in front of it.

[frylock]

66. #ShesWithHer

[Herman4747]

67. People will wonder that, Hillary. n/t

[harun]

68. Forgot the third option, In it for the special interests!

I don't think it is between Hillary and the people. She has said more to support special interests than to support the people. So, what are we going to expect her to be like in office?

[Helen Borg]

69. Nice focus groups..

[bigwillq]

70. Seems to me like she is. The Clintons have always been about themselves first (nt)

[thereismore]

76. I am not wondering at all. nt

[pengu]

77. I've already sorted through it just fine

[Pastiche423]

78. It's not just DUers that feel

that she's in it for herself.

Check out the comments at the bottom of the article.

[CharlotteVale]

79. No they don't. They know you are.

[MosheFeingold]

83. +1

[Chemisse]

85. Sorry, we're locking this.

This should be posted in GD P instead. It is not Important news of national interest.

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