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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:32 AM Jun 2012

AIG CEO Robert Benmosche: 80-Year-Old Europeans Need To Be Working

Source: Huffington Post

Robert Benmosche, chief executive of the recently bailed-out and largely government-owned American International Group, told Bloomberg from his seaside villa that he thinks the eurozone debt crisis will push the retirement age in the region way up. "Retirement ages will have to move to 70, 80 years old," he said. “That would make pensions, medical services more affordable. They will keep people working longer and will take that burden off of the youth.”

World leaders have called an emergency meeting for Tuesday to discuss the crisis, as a Spanish banking meltdown and looming Greek election threaten to break up the Eurozone. One major source of debt for many of the countries in panic mode is generous pensions. One way out: Getting employees to have longer careers, at least in Greece, according to Benmosche.

For his part, the 68-year-old AIG chief told the company’s shareholders late last year that he planned to stay on longer than he originally anticipated.

Though Benmosche’s comments were directed at Europe, American workers may also be working well into their golden years. Already one quarter of middle-class Americans expect to retire when they’re 80, not 65, according to a Wells Fargo survey from November.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/04/aig-ceo-robert-benmosche-_n_1569072.html

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AIG CEO Robert Benmosche: 80-Year-Old Europeans Need To Be Working (Original Post) onehandle Jun 2012 OP
I think this guy should be Romney's running mate. CBGLuthier Jun 2012 #1
poor widdle CEO making much more than insurance median CEOs - $7.2 million/yr. vs. $4 million wordpix Jun 2012 #19
Maybe if we didn't have to fork over $190 billion to save your fucked up company BeyondGeography Jun 2012 #2
+10000 Absolutely wordpix Jun 2012 #20
Including $36 Billion for French and German banks tied to AIG's mess. Octafish Jun 2012 #38
Don't hold back now, tell the man what you really think! BTW, I agree 100%. freshwest Jun 2012 #40
And where will Delphinus Jun 2012 #49
"from his seaside villa" Myrina Jun 2012 #3
Yeah "It would sure make the payments easier on this seaside villa if ... Ganja Ninja Jun 2012 #17
I'm sure he will work until he is 80. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #37
Thanks for speaking out loud waddirum Jun 2012 #54
I wonder how many people over 65 have been hired by AIG this year? Lasher Jun 2012 #4
Staying on at 68 … what a guy the_chinuk Jun 2012 #5
Let him work until 80. Perhaps as a roofer or dishwasher. Liberal Veteran Jun 2012 #6
Let him work this kind of jobs for a full month RIGHT NOW. DetlefK Jun 2012 #9
Yep. Exactly. I work in front of a PC all day... Liberal Veteran Jun 2012 #12
Work in front of a PC all day until you are 70 and wait to see what your back feels like. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #26
I worked in front of a computer all day up till I was 71. RebelOne Jun 2012 #35
If you're sitting in a cramped position, you're "doing it wrong". boppers Jun 2012 #43
Try to explain that to your boss when you miss a deadline. That's the problem, JDPriestly Jun 2012 #46
If you work for a shitty boss, you are fucked. The field doesn't matter. boppers Jun 2012 #47
He must have forgotten about his own mortality. Beacool Jun 2012 #7
Maybe he knows he won't have to keep working. boppers Jun 2012 #44
evil bastard must think he can transfer his wealth to the afterlife... Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #45
I'll be happy to work until I'm 80 bupkus Jun 2012 #8
Says the 68-year-old from his sea-side resort in Croatia. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #10
Isn't that just sickening!! Beacool Jun 2012 #14
Sickening, short-sighted, and just plain dumb... shcrane71 Jun 2012 #22
This from the guy whose company received huge tax breaks in addition to the bailout suffragette Jun 2012 #11
This story is ripe with silkscreen/photoshop possibilities. closeupready Jun 2012 #13
Insanity. nt BlueIris Jun 2012 #15
Complete insanity defined ... Mika Jun 2012 #16
If your dad is rich, rich, rich and 70, work is merely a burden that JDPriestly Jun 2012 #28
"the average retirement age of American workers hit 67" ---Benmosche's time is up wordpix Jun 2012 #18
these clueless wonders are the type of people they are hiring as CEOs newspeak Jun 2012 #21
Being a CEO no longer takes talent ut oh Jun 2012 #25
They're not clueless IDemo Jun 2012 #32
ah yes, force everyone <80 years old to re-enter the workforce... renegade000 Jun 2012 #23
The question is not how much longer Benmosche plans to stay on in his soft job JDPriestly Jun 2012 #24
Let's see . . . Brigid Jun 2012 #27
you forgot the tar and feathers wordpix Jun 2012 #30
Where are those damn guillotines I ordered??? Odin2005 Jun 2012 #29
I keep this graphic handy for the inevitable. onehandle Jun 2012 #31
I'm afraid those are backordered until August 2015 IDemo Jun 2012 #33
LMAO! Odin2005 Jun 2012 #41
They can't stand that Europeans have a better life than Americans lovuian Jun 2012 #34
Arbeit macht frei. WinkyDink Jun 2012 #36
... and yet the company I work for just canned 35 people ... Myrina Jun 2012 #39
Wow! rich douche bags have no clue. sarcasmo Jun 2012 #42
"They will keep people working longer and will take that burden off of the youth.” Duer 157099 Jun 2012 #48
take that burden off of the youth." DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #50
Not only are people now working two jobs, if they can find them, to survive aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #51
Eighty is the new Sixty! yellowcanine Jun 2012 #52
Thereby shutting an entire generation of young people out of the labor market KamaAina Jun 2012 #53
Actually, he didn't. Beacool Jun 2012 #55
Not much need for higher productivity when there is no demand for the product of that labor. 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #56

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
19. poor widdle CEO making much more than insurance median CEOs - $7.2 million/yr. vs. $4 million
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jun 2012
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/12/ceo-compensation-11_Robert-H-Benmosche_PCO8.html

Robert H Benmosche's
Compensation vs. Insurance Medians

Salary $3.00 mil $1.00 mil
Bonus NA $1.60 mil
Other $4.02 mil $0.58 mil
Stock Gains NA $0.00 mil
Total Compensation $7.02 mil $4.16 mi

Guy should be fired right now.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
2. Maybe if we didn't have to fork over $190 billion to save your fucked up company
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:43 AM
Jun 2012

retirement programs would be stronger.

Asshole.

Yeah, and I know it's supposedly about Europe, but the owners are peddling the same shit over here.

Keep people in their jobs into their 70's...that benefits the young? How, exactly? Keep everyone scared and corporate profits up is the program.

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
49. And where will
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:25 AM
Jun 2012

both the older ones and the younger ones work? Isn't there a staggering amount of unemployment as it is?

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
3. "from his seaside villa"
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:45 AM
Jun 2012

... where's a guillotine when ya need one? What an asshole.

Will HE still be "working" when he's 80?? Doubt it, but bunches of us will be, to pay for his platinum parachute. Fucker.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
17. Yeah "It would sure make the payments easier on this seaside villa if ...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:37 AM
Jun 2012

you could just work until you drop".

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
37. I'm sure he will work until he is 80.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:17 PM
Jun 2012

If you count a no-show job on the board, half a million dollar salary and access to the company jet, cars and retreats, work.

waddirum

(979 posts)
54. Thanks for speaking out loud
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 11:45 AM
Jun 2012

what I was hesitant to say myself.

It's almost like they are rubbing it in our faces to see if we still have the gag reflex.

the_chinuk

(332 posts)
5. Staying on at 68 … what a guy
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:57 AM
Jun 2012

I presume he's working past the traditional retirement cutoff in his cushy, luxurious job in order to inspire the rest of us proles in underpaid, overstressed have-to-do-it jobs to keep plugging on.

Such sacrifices.

Like I said, what a guy.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
6. Let him work until 80. Perhaps as a roofer or dishwasher.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:10 AM
Jun 2012

See how long it is before he changes his tune or collapses and dies as his body gives out.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
9. Let him work this kind of jobs for a full month RIGHT NOW.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:36 AM
Jun 2012

Spending all day standing on your feet or bend over on your knees or hauling heavy stuff or handling tiny screws and parts ...

It's easy to talk about work if you sit in front of a PC all day long.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
12. Yep. Exactly. I work in front of a PC all day...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:09 AM
Jun 2012

....but I also remember what it was like loading trucks by hand in a factory warehouse and working on the assembly line trying to make production. Hardly something I would want to be doing in my 70's.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
26. Work in front of a PC all day until you are 70 and wait to see what your back feels like.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jun 2012

Ergonomics only does so much for you.

You can't sit in that cramped position and overtax the small muscles in your shoulders, arms and muscles for many, many years without causing yourself a lot of problems.

And all of us who work office jobs in which we sit and sit and sit for hours have to watch for lower back problems.

I was careful to take a walk at lunch every day and did not hold down sitting jobs for that many years and have still paid for it.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
35. I worked in front of a computer all day up till I was 71.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jun 2012

Then I was laid off, but I am no worse for the wear of sitting all day. I would still be working today if I could.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
43. If you're sitting in a cramped position, you're "doing it wrong".
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:30 PM
Jun 2012

If you're sitting in a chair for a whole hour, you're also doing it wrong. Get up. Move. You're damaging your health.

http://www.wikihow.com/Exercise-While-Sitting-at-Your-Computer

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
46. Try to explain that to your boss when you miss a deadline. That's the problem,
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:57 AM
Jun 2012

meeting deadlines when you are doing computer work. I suppose it depends on the job.

In my job, I typed, read and e-mailed at the computer far too much. I loved doing it, but my back went out some time after I retired. I was hunching over -- just as I had hunched over for years at my computer.

Now I'm trying to straighten my back -- doing exercises to reverse the damage I did to myself. You don't realize when you are young just how much sitting in the same position for long periods of time with only short periods of relaxation or contrary movements can do to you.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
47. If you work for a shitty boss, you are fucked. The field doesn't matter.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:40 AM
Jun 2012

Hunching is so bad, so incredibly bad... monitors should be at eye level, keyboard at a relaxed hand and arm position, breaks should be *created* by superiors if your staff is over-working or working poorly...

Sadly, much of what is known now has only been learned in the last 40 years, at a great cost of human suffering.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
7. He must have forgotten about his own mortality.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:13 AM
Jun 2012

The man has cancer. Prior to becoming AIG's CEO he was Met Life's CEO. During his tenure 10,000 jobs were outsourced. He's trying to do the same to AIG. Since the government still owns a majority share of the company, how come they haven't stopped them from sending jobs overseas?

They are all on the same boat.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
44. Maybe he knows he won't have to keep working.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:32 PM
Jun 2012

...and is a bit upset that he can never really retire.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
45. evil bastard must think he can transfer his wealth to the afterlife...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:39 PM
Jun 2012

I hate these fluffy, softball interviews where the ivory tower dwellers think we actually give a shit about their analysis...

 

bupkus

(1,981 posts)
8. I'll be happy to work until I'm 80
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:25 AM
Jun 2012

As long I'm working at this empty suit's job.

The average worker would work themselves to death long before 80 and this bastard, Benmosche, and every single one of the other empty suits just like him, knows it.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
10. Says the 68-year-old from his sea-side resort in Croatia.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:40 AM
Jun 2012

I heard a similar story on NPR yesterday where at the end the NPR correspondent mentioned that they had reached the 68 year old while he was vacationing at a sea-side resort in Croatia.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
14. Isn't that just sickening!!
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:17 AM
Jun 2012

While he's relaxing in Croatia, AIG has continued to quietly lay off people.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
22. Sickening, short-sighted, and just plain dumb...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jun 2012

The rich have always, always, always stood on the backs of the workers. If you break the workers backs, you're no longer rich.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
11. This from the guy whose company received huge tax breaks in addition to the bailout
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:56 AM
Jun 2012
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Blogs/Business-Buzz/2012/02/28/The-Infuriating-Inexcusable-AIG-Tax-Deal.aspx#page1


http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/bending-the-tax-code-and-lifting-a-i-g-s-profit/?ref=business

Last week, the American International Group reported a whopping $19.8 billion profit for its fourth quarter. It was a quite a feat for a company that was on its death bed just a little over three years ago, so sick that it needed a huge taxpayer bailout.

But if you dug into the numbers, it quickly became clear that $17.7 billion of that profit was pure fantasy — a tax benefit, er, gift, from the United States government. The company made only $1.6 billion during the quarter from actual operations. Yet A.I.G. not only received a tax benefit, it is unlikely to pay a cent of taxes this year, nor by some estimates, for at least a decade.

The tax benefit is notable for more than simply its size. It is the result of a rule that the Treasury unilaterally bent for A.I.G. and several other hobbled companies in 2008 that has largely been overlooked.

This rule-twisting could deprive the government of tens of billions of dollars, assuming the firm remains profitable. The tax dodge — and let’s be honest, that’s what it is — also will most likely help goose the bonuses of A.I.G.’s employees, some of whom helped create many of the problems that led to its role in the financial crisis.



But, hey have to find a way to keep the enormous salaries, bonuses and tax breaks flowing to the people who created the mess in the 1st place.


Also, the best way to "take the burden off of the youth" would be for people to be able to retire earlier, thus freeing up jobs for the youth, who now face increasingly high unemployment rates because of the austerity push by Benmoshe and his colleagues. And they would then be contributing to pension funds.

No coincidence that many of AIG's bailout pay outs went to the European banks whose high risk bets with AIG and others fed the crisis and who all sing in the same chorus demanding ever more austerity. And even as austerity is a clear failure when viewing the nations and majority of citizens it is crushing, it's clear the calls for it to continue are coming from the corrupt 1% who draw ever larger profits and benefits at the public's expense.





 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
16. Complete insanity defined ...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:28 AM
Jun 2012
"They will keep people working longer and will take that burden off of the youth.”




Huh? OK.

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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
28. If your dad is rich, rich, rich and 70, work is merely a burden that
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:45 PM
Jun 2012

your dad can remove from your shoulders by continuing to earn his mega-salary and paying your way with it.

Most of us don't have dad's like that or aren't dads like that, so our children are desperate to get jobs and keep them.

This man is seriously out of touch. He should be fired. Who is his boss?

Here are the members of the Board of Directors

http://www.aigcorporate.com/corpgovernance/board_directors.html

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
21. these clueless wonders are the type of people they are hiring as CEOs
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:12 AM
Jun 2012

no wonder we are in such a fix. They are laying off people in their fifties-where are seniors going to find a job. What he's really saying is that seniors won't be able to find a job and won't have anything to fall back on and so, they can just fekkin DIE!

It doesn't take the burden off of the young. If seniors are lucky to have a job, it will keep the young endlessly looking for work. The guy is a compassionless, clueless wonder. And this is the guy they think has a talent for running a large corporation? Oh, it helps if the government is helping out-help out the greedy, profit over country corporations, but don't help out the people. Gotcha big guy!!!!!

ut oh

(893 posts)
25. Being a CEO no longer takes talent
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:35 PM
Jun 2012

Anyone can say "Lay off 10% of our workforce to save money".

The talent lies in the ability to make connections to get you that cushy job...

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
32. They're not clueless
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:26 PM
Jun 2012

They know precisely what they intend to take out of the hides of the working and middle (what remains) classes.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
23. ah yes, force everyone <80 years old to re-enter the workforce...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jun 2012

that will help the unemployment situation...

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. The question is not how much longer Benmosche plans to stay on in his soft job
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:34 PM
Jun 2012

but how many 70 to 80 year-olds, AIG employes.

If an ordinary person is going to work until 65, 70 or 80. he or she has to be able to find and keep a job.

With unemployment so high among people under 80, how in the world does Benmosche think people aged 80 will find jobs.

Mr. Benmosche is having a nervous breakdown. He is not living in reality. He is not thinking rationally.

If Benmosche is that irrational and that unable to automatically multiply the unemployment rates by the numbers of people who would need to find jobs if we continued to work until we were 80, how in the world does he run one of the world's largest insurance companies?

Maybe the problem is becoming clearer: business leaders who don't think rationally and who can't count, Benmosche being an excellent example.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
34. They can't stand that Europeans have a better life than Americans
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:45 PM
Jun 2012

We work and work and get no respect or retirement or healthcare
even though our children defend the world

It so sucks

Our money for our retirement is going into the military budget which is HUGE

and health insurance should be given to everyone as a right
Europe already has proven their system works

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
39. ... and yet the company I work for just canned 35 people ...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 06:15 PM
Jun 2012

... all of whom have been with the company at least 10 years and were an average of 50 years old ... which means they were due some healthy 401k, insurance & vacation compensation (had they stayed on payroll). We're a 'Right to Work' state so of course the DOL laughed and told them to fuck off when one inquired about filing a complaint.

So tell me, Mr. Asshole Executive, sir, how are people supposed to be working past age 50 when greedy clowns like you are firing them because they're "too expensive" to keep on payroll?

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
48. "They will keep people working longer and will take that burden off of the youth.”
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:49 AM
Jun 2012

Take that burden off of the youth? Wha? You mean, the unemployed youth, because there are no jobs because nobody is retiring? Swell. If you mean, they won't have the burden of paying taxes because they don't make any money, ok. Ass.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
50. take that burden off of the youth."
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:37 PM
Jun 2012

really?
HAW HAW

Bastards like this see Youth as one thing: slaves, or to be more honest, Livestock. They will start breeding Monsanto patented youth if they get the chance, complete with features to make them useful after they have been worked to death, such as optional Ham flavor..

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
51. Not only are people now working two jobs, if they can find them, to survive
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:06 AM
Jun 2012

Not only are they working without vacations or sick time privileges, without pensions, health coverage, or periodic raises. Not only are they unable to afford college for their kids, but now they have to work until they're 80? Next, he'll propose that those 80 year olds who need to work to survive and who can't find a job should consider pulling his fat ass in a rickshaw on days of heavy traffic downtown, like coolies.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
53. Thereby shutting an entire generation of young people out of the labor market
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 07:24 PM
Jun 2012

What a . No wonder he ran AIG into the ground.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
55. Actually, he didn't.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:32 PM
Jun 2012

As much as I think that the guy is an insensitive a-hole, he wasn't the CEO at the time of the economic collapse. Martin Sullivan was the CEO. After Sullivan came Edward Liddy and now Bemosche.

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