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Calista241

(5,633 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:10 PM Mar 2016

Supreme Court rejects NJ employees’ appeal over pension fund

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Source: Washington Post

The Supreme Court refused on Monday to disturb a ruling from New Jersey’s top court that sided with Gov. Chris Christie in a legal fight with public worker unions over pension funds.

The justices did not comment in rejecting the unions’ appeal. The high court order came less than three weeks after Christie ended his run for the Republican presidential nomination.

New Jersey’s Supreme Court ruled last year that the state is obligated to pay individual retirees their pensions, but it overturned a lower court ruling that would have forced the state to come up with billions to pay promised pension benefits. New Jersey’s pension fund has nearly $75 billion in unfunded liabilities, stemming from underpayment by previous governors, both Democratic and Republican.

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The state ruling last year allowed Christie to propose making a roughly $1.9 billion payment to the pension fund in his 2017 fiscal year budget, well below the roughly $3.8 billion payment he and the Legislature agreed to in 2011 legislation.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-rejects-nj-employees-appeal-over-pension-fund/2016/02/29/c33ec8ea-def2-11e5-8c00-8aa03741dced_story.html

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Supreme Court rejects NJ employees’ appeal over pension fund (Original Post) Calista241 Mar 2016 OP
The state's obligated to pay the pensions to retirees but it doesn't have to come up with the money? Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2016 #1
I don't think that is it. potone Mar 2016 #2
correct psychmommy Mar 2016 #4
Ah, the state needn't "come up with billions to pay promised pension benefits" for FUTURE retirees. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2016 #5
sucks to be me lol psychmommy Mar 2016 #6
Oh, no! I hate to hear that! Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2016 #7
Whatever it means, it means the pensioners get screwed. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #3
Locking... BooScout Mar 2016 #8

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
1. The state's obligated to pay the pensions to retirees but it doesn't have to come up with the money?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:19 PM
Mar 2016

Is that poor reporting or am I missing something that would reconcile those two points?

potone

(1,701 posts)
2. I don't think that is it.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:22 PM
Mar 2016

If I have this right, he has to pay current pensions, but does not have to fully fund future ones. Perhaps someone from New Jersey can clarify this.

psychmommy

(1,739 posts)
4. correct
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:22 PM
Mar 2016

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
5. Ah, the state needn't "come up with billions to pay promised pension benefits" for FUTURE retirees.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:34 PM
Mar 2016

If you're already retired, you're covered (or at least until the state finds another loophole). But if you've merely been paying into the system for, say, 30-40 years, and haven't retired just quite yet then, well, sucks to be you.

psychmommy

(1,739 posts)
6. sucks to be me lol
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:40 PM
Mar 2016

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
7. Oh, no! I hate to hear that!
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:49 PM
Mar 2016

We've had our own notable pension wars in Illinois for several years now but the courts have come down on the workers' side. Public opinion on the matter has also largely swung our way after a lot of early vicious AstroTurfing by certain groups. Now it's really a matter of finally straightening out the tax situation here. I'm a lot more optimistic about my looming retirement than I was a few months ago.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
3. Whatever it means, it means the pensioners get screwed. nt
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:35 PM
Mar 2016

BooScout

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8. Locking...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:57 PM
Mar 2016

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