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[stevedeshazer]

1. "Some Sonics could be missing an inner or outer brake pad, which could increase stopping distance."

And you might get a letter after January 14th?

How could you drive any car and not notice that it had a missing brake pad??

[cloudbase]

10. How could they not find this

in a pre delivery inspection?

[Mopar151]

22. Pre-delivery does not include pulling the wheels to check the brakes

Most of pre-delivery has to do with removing packing (seat covers, etc.) and washing, along with checking and recording serial #, key #, maybe checking the tire pressure.

And the tech MAYBE has 1/2 an hour to do this - if the dealer even bothers. (I'm a former Mr. Goodwrench)

[cloudbase]

33. At some point somebody

has to drive the thing, whether to the wash bay or to fill the tank or for whatever. It should be pretty obvious at that time that something is wrong.

[truthisfreedom]

2. Ouch. In related news, Fox News is recalling broadcasts that may have missing truths.

All of them.

[lacrew]

3. Sugar Coating it a Bit

:....which could increase stopping distance"

[Robb]

4. This is probably the revision.

The original press release said "...but at least half of the wheels were fitted with the proper number of brake pads...."

[dipsydoodle]

5. Can you imagine the noise with a pad missing.

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[Sherman A1]

7. +1

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

31. Electric car? nt

[sarcasmo]

19. Exactly, how could you not hear that on a test drive.

[Mopar151]

26. What test drive? n/t

[Mopar151]

23. If the caliper body is aluminium

And the rotor is new, it might not make any noise at all.....

[Lone_Star_Dem]

39. Obviously the Sonic comes standard with a deluxe sound system

One of such premium quality it totally cancels out the metal on metal screeching sound coming from where you're brakes are supposed to be.

[MADem]

8. Awwwwww, shit--now THAT'S some BAD quality control, right there.

Hope they figured out what went wrong on that line...

[savalez]

9. I wonder if the service techs jump out of the way

when someone brings their car in for the recall.

[Mopar151]

24. No worse than old Monza's

Motor mount would sag and bind up the steering - at a full right turn!

[sylveste]

11. would you even need brakes

for that car? you could probably just "flintstone" it.

[originalpckelly]

12. Once you buy one Chevy Sonic you just can't stop.

No, really...

Stopping. That's kind of an important basic necessity in a vehicle.

How did these get out of the factory without the brake pads? Did Homer Simpson get fired from the nuke plant and did he get a job there?

[James48]

13. Note:

A car has FOUR wheels, with TWO brake pads on each wheel, meaning we have EIGHT brake pads on a car, and yes, maybe ONE of those eight brake pads is missing.

The other wheels make sure the car stops when someone is moving it around. Yes, it may stop in 350 feet instead of 320 feet when traveling 40 MPH.

This is the first month's production, out of a newly restored plant (Lake Orion) which, for the first time, has THREE WAGE TIER Workers inside.

http://labornotes.org/2011/07/will-auto%E2%80%99s-three-tier-wages-be-table

About half the Lake Orion workforce are GM employees who make $28.12 Union wages.

And then there are a subset of workers, about a third, who make $14.60 dollars an hour, as UNION GM workers.

And then there are a couple hundred "third tier" workers, who are CONTRACT employees, not GM employees, and make about $10 an hour, with no benefits at all.

Who do you suppose is responsible for putting on those brake pads?

Just sayin'.

Sonic is going to be a good car. Sales have been good so far, and it's a brand new fuel efficient design.

[Mopar151]

25. Likely a parts plant F/U

Calipers would be "pre-loaded" with pads, hoses, etc. - but an experienced line worker would probably catch it.

[IamK]

37. the 3rd tier workers do not do assembly, so it is a union employee doing the work...

(if you were hinting that its not)... 3rd tier people stock parts for the assembly people....

[hunter]

38. At $10 an hour pride in one's work can go out the window.

Same thing happens at $10,000 an hour.

There's a sweet spot in the distribution of wealth where most everyone is doing good work they can be proud of, from line worker to CEO.

The U.S.A. has long been out of that sweet spot. Inadequately paid workers are actually deprived of the means to do excellent work. For example, the workers in a fast food place simply can't build a better hamburger with the tools and materials provided. And if they did they'd probably get fired for slowing down the process. Same thing happens with cars, same thing happens with schools.



http://www.alphaila.com/articles/failure/fast-food-false-advertising-vs-reality

[FailureToCommunicate]

15. Call Click and Clack

they'll have a solution!

[Fair Witness]

17. Open window, toss out anchor

[Kurmudgeon]

16. Heck, even the guy unloading it from the truck should realize something is wrong.

I expect most of these were caught during dealer prep anyway.

[doc03]

18. How on earth could that happen, I would think the employee that drives the car from the line to the

parking area would notice the problem when he runs into the car in front of him.

[Devil_Fish]

20. Holly shit, I ride a motorcycle!

I'll try to remember not to get in front of one of these death machines.

[RC]

28. Any cage can do you in by inattentive driver. All should be considered dangerous.

[Devil_Fish]

29. I have been riding for over 20 years, but thanks for the tip.

Braking is my least used method of collision avoidence for just that reason.

[Mimosa]

21. This is important news.

Lives could be lost.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

27. How does that conceivably go unnoticed?

I was picking my parents old Sebring up from the dealer for service years ago and I noticed there was a problem when I braked at the entrance and came to a stop about four feet into the street!

[onethatcares]

30. if you've ever experienced the warm sensation of having a brake line or wheel cylinder

go out while driving this will bring back great memories.

[Scuba]

34. In an unrelated story, thanks to an accounting adjustment under the heading of "Inventory"....

... GM Execs were able to pay themselves an unexpected bonus.

[IamK]

36. thats embarrassing for GM & the UAW....

at some point, during a 2+ week peiod of production of 4K cars, someone should have noticed....

[Islandlife]

40. We will all bear the cost of this recall

I hate doing the same job twice. It's a tremendous waste of money.

Our fed gov monies are part of gm. We are being impacted by this outlandish error.

[hughee99]

41. How does one miss putting some break pads on in the factory,

and have no one else catch it?

[Gringostan]

42. Ooops!

Ooops!
Accidents do happen but no brake pads on over 4000 cars – give me a brake!