Conservative group sets up nativity scene in Capitol; move angers anti-religion group
A tiny figure of baby Jesus is surrounded by Mary, Joseph and the three wise men in a new nativity scene in the state Capitol rotunda.
The conservative group Wisconsin Family Action set up the manger scene on Sunday, and its president Julaine Appling said they plan to display it through the end of the month.
But the move angered the Madison-based Freedom from Religion Foundation, which is now planning its own “slightly blasphemous” Capitol nativity display celebrating the winter solstice.
“It’s distressing to me that we have a manger scene on top of all of the religion at the Capitol,” Freedom from Religion co-president Annie Laurie Gaylord said. “Every day it’s religion, religion, religion.”
http://www.sheboyganpress.com/article/20111212/SHE0101/111212124/Conservative-group-sets-up-nativity-scene-Capitol-move-angers-anti-religion-group?odyssey=mod|defcon|text|FRONTPAGE
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Scuba
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Bandit
(21,475 posts)They have been told time and time again, it is nopt constitutional for Government to advocate for religion of any bent.....Yet they persist.....
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)they use it all the time........... when it suits their purpose
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)The three wise-men meet the three stooges.
cstanleytech
(28,473 posts)but I think I heard Beck is free though I am betting he would rather go with the nativity people if they asked him to fill in for the spot of baby jesus provided they agree to supply the onions so he can cry on cue.
handmade34
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I feel that way about politics and philosophy too. Be nice if everyone did...
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)disgusting... as if no other religion or non-religious view mattered. They make me sick with their self-entitled BS.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)The Governor, who is subject to a recall, is looking to paint the people who want him removed as left wing nut cases, while he is a politician who is listening to the people.
He did this by permitting the Nativity scene, then watch the people who oppose such things on Government property fall all over themselves to protest it. They may even file a lawsuit to force the State to remove the Nativity scene. The Governor wins whether the people who want the Nativity scene removed wins or lose. If the "Freedom from Religion" group wins, he complies with the Court order, but can then say he was just trying to accommodate everyone. If the "Freedom from Religion" loses the lawsuit, he then would have shown he can stand up for the little people who wanted this Nativity Scene up.
Furthermore the Governor knows he is unpopular with the economic left do to his actions to cut Unions and pay. He knows many people who are Economic Left (Union members and supporters) are also Social Conservatives, i.e. support religion and oppose gay marriage. Thus his support for the Nativity Scene divides the biggest group of people who oppose him, the Economic Left. Divide and Conquer has long been the policy of the GOP and this battle over this Nativity Scene is one way to divide and Conquer.
If I was advising anyone, I would tell the "Freedom from Religion" group NOT to file a lawsuit, they have done enough damage all ready by falling into the trap laid by the Governor when this Nativity Scene went up. We have to pick our battles, and right now the most important battle is the Economic Battle which includes the recall of this Governor, and this battle over these statures is his attempt to stop that recall. Do NOT fall into his trap, just ignore these statutes.
Bogart
(178 posts)Why are they angry? Why are the anti-religious?
I am not a religious person, but I don't spend a whole lot of time worrying about nativity scenes and other Xmas traditions.
Tis the season to be jolly--don't worry, it will all be over in a couple of weeks.
Skittles
(171,717 posts)Bogart
(178 posts)Archae
(47,245 posts)Would throw a FIT if any decorations were put up that are from any other religions.
Especially Muslim.
Bogart
(178 posts)Actually, my post was meant to tweak the responder--I do believe that religions and governments should be separated from one another. However, I also believe that the anti-religious zealots have gone off the deep end with their objections to Xmas displays.
I figure we must not be doing too bad, if people have time to waste on this sort of non-sense.
hyphenate
(12,496 posts)But when a religious themed item is put into a government building, it no longer becomes a religious matter, it becomes a political matter.
I would say leave it up if the Jews, Muslims, Wiccans, Hindi, African Americans who celebrate Kwanzaa, Buddhists, Taoists, atheists, Native Americans, Satanists, Druids, and any and every other religious group in the country was allowed to set up a themed holiday message as well. Let's see how well that kind of a proposition goes over. Take my word for it: it won't.
A few years ago, there was another nativity scene planned for another government building, and several of the other religious groups made the same request. The RR quickly moved in and took their manger scene down, rather than share the space with other religious systems. It's that kind of demonstration that will keep the RR in its place, but few others are willing to go that step. Too bad.
You might recall a judge named Roy Moore who put up the 10 commandments in the court house in Alabama, and was told by a federal judge to take it down. HE wouldn't do it. He was adored by the RR as a result.
These kind of people keep pushing their views onto others and very few have stood up to them throughout the past.
It's time the rest of us told the Roy Moores of this world to shove their beliefs up their asses.
Skittles
(171,717 posts)pretty sad we have to explain this on a PROGRESSIVE BOARD 
41mag
(31 posts)I have never had a problem either. I think some people just need to find something to bitch about.
and-justice-for-all
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bloomington-lib
(946 posts)Jesus behind a table pouring soup into the bowl of an unemployed person.
Or Jesus standing next to a hospital bed with a sick patient that doesn't have insurance.
Not sure they would know what to do with those.
Brother Buzz
(39,900 posts)They won't even respond to my harshly worded letters demanding to know why they snubbed my entry.
24601
(4,142 posts)being put with the trash. If that's not trash but are instead your treasures, no offense meant to your decorating tastes.
Muskypundit
(717 posts)As long as it is on private property I have no problem.
hyphenate
(12,496 posts)in Wisconsin, not in DC.
Muskypundit
(717 posts)My bad
freshwest
(53,661 posts)And it'll help Walker unite his fundie base and stay in office for an even bigger religious right stunt next year. Keep on track to recall or keep Walker. The lines are much too close.
He must go and WI can't lose the hard won momentum they've worked for this year. If people spend energy on this, it will get national attention and Walker's crimes will be forgotten.
Don't lose focus, this is a trick.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)Maybe the birth of Mithras, whose birthday, Dec. 25, was borrowed by the Christians and never returned.
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)...and talk them into putting a Dianetics display up.
Whole thing would be over immediately.
hyphenate
(12,496 posts)started off with small moves until they run a great deal of our government today. It's time others got their own views in--if the RR wants a goddamned fight, I think it's time for every other religious (and areligious) group fought for their own rights.
I am SICK and tired of the shit the RR has forced on this country. They are as great a pestilence as the bubonic plague.
I'll be happy to see the day they are put into their proper place--irrelevance.