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MADem

(135,425 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:33 PM Mar 2016

AHEAD OF FLORIDA'S PRIMARY, MIAMI'S NUCLEAR POWER PLANT IS LEAKING

Source: NEWSWEEK

s Republican presidential primary candidates gather in Miami on Thursday night for their final debate before the Tuesday primary, South Floridians are learning that radioactive material is seeping into Biscayne Bay, the 35-mile lagoon that stretches along the state into the Atlantic Ocean.

A county-ordered report released this week found levels of the radioactive isotope tritium in the bay to be 200 times higher than normal, leading to suspicions that the Turkey Point nuclear power plant in Homestead, Florida, which was built in the 1970s and supplies juice to 900,000 Floridians, is leaking.

While such a level of tritium is not harmful to humans, the problems at the power plant, on wetland that is vulnerable to rising sea levels, evokes the worst-case specter of another seaside nuke plant—Fukushima.


“I think the Fukushima scenario is very reasonable, and it terrifies me,” says Cindy Lerner, mayor of Pinecrest, Florida, which sits 14 miles north of the plant. “I was never anti-nuclear. But when Fukushima happened, the U.S. government issued an alert to all U.S. citizens, that if they were within a 50-mile radius to get outta Dodge.” Lerner says if a Fukushima-type event happened at Turkey Point, she’s concerned because the current evacuation plan is limited to a 10-mile radius......

Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/biscayne-bay-florida-nuclear-power-plant-leaking-435721



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AHEAD OF FLORIDA'S PRIMARY, MIAMI'S NUCLEAR POWER PLANT IS LEAKING (Original Post) MADem Mar 2016 OP
This alert the government put out. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #1
No--that alert was for Fukushima--the USG told all AMERICANS in Japan to get out of the area ASAP. MADem Mar 2016 #3
That makes sense. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #5
Short of a meltdown, they probably won't. forest444 Mar 2016 #4
That's why I was so confused. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #6
There are apparently NO public advisories (!), giftedgirl. forest444 Mar 2016 #10
Thanks giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #11
Current emergency evacuation plans are only designed for a 10 mile radius around nuc. plants. Divernan Mar 2016 #17
That's pretty rad! mindwalker_i Mar 2016 #2
Pardon the dated slang. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #14
This post is decaying rapidly mindwalker_i Mar 2016 #20
but...but...solar haz a sad in teh FL jpak Mar 2016 #7
Uranium Suntan houston16revival Mar 2016 #8
Dear God, Idiocracy really is coming true. For realz. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2016 #9
Put some Brawndo on it! brett_jv Mar 2016 #21
Whoa! ananda Mar 2016 #12
Unfortunately they do that all by themselves. n/t eggplant Mar 2016 #13
Florida should be the leading solar energy state, too. Because of greed, valerief Mar 2016 #15
I agree--it IS the Sunshine State. MADem Mar 2016 #16
These aging plants are already 20 years past their "best by" dates. Divernan Mar 2016 #18
Yes, indeed--we see corroded pipes in Flint, why do we imagine it won't happen to MADem Mar 2016 #19
 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
1. This alert the government put out.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:36 PM
Mar 2016

Were they advising that everyone within a 50 mile radius just move? I really hope I'm misunderstanding.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. No--that alert was for Fukushima--the USG told all AMERICANS in Japan to get out of the area ASAP.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:47 PM
Mar 2016
“I was never anti-nuclear. But when Fukushima happened, the U.S. government issued an alert to all U.S. citizens, that if they were within a 50-mile radius to get outta Dodge.” Lerner says if a Fukushima-type event happened at Turkey Point, she’s concerned because the current evacuation plan is limited to a 10-mile radius.
 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
5. That makes sense.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:57 PM
Mar 2016

I thought I had missed something major & I'm from Miami & my moms in Tampa so nuclear is a very big deal.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
4. Short of a meltdown, they probably won't.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:48 PM
Mar 2016

It seems to be more important for them to make believe there's "nothing to see here folks" than to actually save lives, God forbid.

This is especially so if the advisory is up to Governor Medicare Ripoff to declare.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
17. Current emergency evacuation plans are only designed for a 10 mile radius around nuc. plants.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:03 AM
Mar 2016

And evacuation plans, typically expected to be used in the event of major hurricanes and accompanying storm surges, are extremely problematic for Florida because the population is so heavily concentrated within 10 miles of coast line.

Back in the late 90's I attended a presentation by the head of Florida's emergency management agency (the state's version of FEMA), who talked about hurricane response. He said that due to the state's geography and demographics, it was impossible to evacuate much of their population. When he spoke, the evacuation plans were based on the state's population of 13 million. Now the state has over 20 million permanent residents - throw in all the tourists to that mix as well. In 2015, Florida hosted a record 105 million visitors, the fifth consecutive year that a record was set.

1990 12,937,926
2000 15,982,378
2010 18,801,310
2015 20,271,272

With the exception of Orlando, all of the state's 10 largest cities are in counties directly bordering either the Atlantic Ocean or the Gulf of Mexico. In 2012, 75% of the population lived within 10 miles (16 km) of the coastline. Miami and the Tampa/St. Pete area have population densities of over 5,000 per square mile.

Much of Florida has an elevation of less than 12 feet (3.7 m), including many populated areas. Therefore, it is short term susceptible to storm surges from hurricanes and increasingly threatened by rising sea levels associated with global warming.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
9. Dear God, Idiocracy really is coming true. For realz.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:12 PM
Mar 2016

Secretary of Defense: "And what about the nuc-- nucular reactor in Florida? It's broke and leaking or something's happening."
Secretary of Energy: "I thought it was in Georgia."
Secretary of Defense: "Georgia's in Florida, dumb ass."

valerief

(53,235 posts)
15. Florida should be the leading solar energy state, too. Because of greed,
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:38 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:23 PM - Edit history (2)

Miami will become Miamishima.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
16. I agree--it IS the Sunshine State.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:48 PM
Mar 2016

They need to develop solar systems that are very hardy, that can survive a hurricane.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
18. These aging plants are already 20 years past their "best by" dates.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:10 AM
Mar 2016
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2015/11/29/390222.htm

Aging U.S. Nuclear Plants Pushing Limits of Life Expectancy
By Jonathan N. Crawford | November 29, 2015

The U.S. is set to become the first nation to decide whether it’s safe to operate nuclear power plants for 80 years, twice as long as initially allowed.

The majority of the nation’s 99 reactors have already received 20-year extensions to their original 40-year operating licenses. Now, operators led by Dominion Resources Inc. want to expand the time frame further, potentially creating a precedent for an aging global fleet at a time when the economics of the industry are undergoing dramatic change.

“The reality of life is the risks go up” as plants age, said Dave Lochbaum, director of the nuclear safety project at the Union of Concerned Scientists, a Cambridge, Massachusetts- based advocacy group. “If you don’t respond with more aggressive risk management, then you’re inviting disaster.”

Corrosion, Leaks
“There are a number of safety issues with pushing these technologies twice beyond their original projected life span,” Tyson Slocum, Washington-based director of energy at Public Citizen, said by phone on Nov. 18. “You’ve seen a number of issues from Davis-Besse to Vermont Yankee where aging components triggered a variety of leaks.”

FirstEnergy Corp. found that corrosion nearly penetrated a steel reactor cap in its Davis-Besse nuclear station in Ohio in March 2002, while Entergy Corp. reported a small radioactive leak from pipes at its Vermont Yankee plant in January 2010. The company and the NRC said at the time that the leak didn’t pose a health risk.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
19. Yes, indeed--we see corroded pipes in Flint, why do we imagine it won't happen to
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:12 AM
Mar 2016

nuke plants, too?

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