Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:06 AM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
Cruz, Sanders top picks in Tuesday's Utah caucuses, poll says
Source: Deseret News
SALT LAKE CITY — Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is the top pick of Utahns in Tuesday's GOP presidential preference caucus election and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is their choice in the Democratic caucus vote, according to a new Deseret News/KSL poll. Cruz also leads GOP frontrunner Donald Trump and Ohio Gov. John Kasich among Republicans who said they're likely to participate in the caucus, as does Sanders over former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton among a similar group of Democrats.... All of the candidates except Clinton have made campaign stops in Utah over the past several days and both the candidates and political action committees are blanketing Utah airwaves with well over $1 million in television and radio commercials.... Sanders, who has the support of 52 percent of likely Democratic caucus-goers in the poll to 44 percent for Clinton, appeals to Utah voters because he's seen as "authentic. He is true to himself and we like that," Love said. Read more: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865650529/Cruz-Sanders-top-picks-in-Tuesdays-Utah-caucuses-poll-says.html This polling corresponds to the projection at PredictWise, which has Sanders as the favorite in the following upcoming races: Utah - 83% chance of Sanders win Idaho - 85% chance of Sanders win Alaska - 84% chance of Sanders win Hawaii - 53% chance of Sanderswin Washington - 87% chance of Sanders win
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Attorney in Texas | Mar 2016 | OP |
book_worm | Mar 2016 | #1 | |
George II | Mar 2016 | #5 | |
yallerdawg | Mar 2016 | #2 | |
MisterFred | Mar 2016 | #7 | |
New Earth | Mar 2016 | #3 | |
George II | Mar 2016 | #4 | |
MisterFred | Mar 2016 | #8 | |
George II | Mar 2016 | #10 | |
imagine2015 | Mar 2016 | #15 | |
George II | Mar 2016 | #16 | |
imagine2015 | Mar 2016 | #14 | |
George II | Mar 2016 | #17 | |
bigdarryl | Mar 2016 | #6 | |
MisterFred | Mar 2016 | #9 | |
bigdarryl | Mar 2016 | #11 | |
MisterFred | Mar 2016 | #12 | |
Land Shark | Mar 2016 | #13 | |
ViseGrip | Mar 2016 | #18 |
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:15 AM
book_worm (15,951 posts)
1. I always expected Bernie to win Utah
That's pretty close though--52-44--Obama beat her 57-39 in 2008 in the state. The delegates will be pretty close with maybe Bernie getting two more delegates. It's a caucus state and an open caucus state and those favor Bernie.
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Response to book_worm (Reply #1)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:15 AM
George II (67,782 posts)
5. Are you insinuating that this is NOT "just like 2008"???
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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:36 AM
yallerdawg (16,104 posts)
2. People love a winner!
"Bing" forecasts a clean sweep for Hillary "Western Tuesday"!
3 for 3 for Hillary! 70% in both Arizona and Idaho, 52% in Utah! |
Response to yallerdawg (Reply #2)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:58 AM
MisterFred (525 posts)
7. You're being lied to.
If Clinton wins Utah, I'll eat my hat (or wonder about voter fraud). There's just no way. It's a perfect storm of (mostly irrational) Hillary-hate and appeal of Sanders' message to the state's liberals/independents. Plus, Trump can't pull independents who might vote for Sanders as effectively as in other states. AND Kasich can't pull independents who might vote for Sanders as effectively as in other states because Trump isn't winning here.
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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:48 AM
New Earth (9,745 posts)
3. awesome news!
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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:14 AM
George II (67,782 posts)
4. Sanders is currently ahead of Clinton by 51-43 in Utah...
That will earn him 3 more delegates than Clinton which won't even make a dent in his 325 delegate deficit so far.
And you listed five of the states voting on 3/22 and 3/26, curiously skipping over the second biggest state of Arizona, where Clinton has a commanding lead. Of the six states voting in the next five days, Clinton will come out with more total delegates and Sanders falling further behind with 275 more delegates accounted for. The lead is widening as we get closer to the finish line - not the way to win a race. |
Response to George II (Reply #4)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:59 AM
MisterFred (525 posts)
8. Yeah, it's really about New York.
The last big hope for the Sanders campaign is to win by BIG margins in New York. Unlikely, but that's the idea.
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Response to MisterFred (Reply #8)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:04 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
10. With the current count of pledged delegates, Sanders has to win ALL remaining states....
....by a margin of about 58% to 42% for Clinton.
For each state that he doesn't win with at least 58%, that number goes up. In each of the six states voting tomorrow and Saturday, he isn't even close to that number, but Clinton is running about 2-1 in Arizona, the second biggest state voting. |
Response to George II (Reply #10)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:45 PM
imagine2015 (2,054 posts)
15. What percentage does Hillary need in elected delegates to secure the nomination?
Just elected (pledged) delegates, not super delegates who can vote for whomever they wish. |
Response to imagine2015 (Reply #15)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:48 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
16. She needs a little more than 40% of the remaining pledged delegates to get a majority....
...of pledged delegates, and then about 360 superdelegates (she already has more than 450)
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Response to George II (Reply #4)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:42 PM
imagine2015 (2,054 posts)
14. It's starting to look like Hillary won't have enough elected delegates for the nomination.
And she starting to have funding problems. That's why $34,000 a plate fund raisers for the rich are being organized at this late date. |
Response to imagine2015 (Reply #14)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:52 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
17. Wrong on two counts - she has more than $30M left, Sanders less than $15M. And...
...she has never held a "$34,000 a plate fund raiser" - it's illegal.
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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:36 AM
bigdarryl (13,190 posts)
6. Utah is a mostly republican state I don't think Hillary is sweating it there
No democrat is going to win that state in the general election against ANY republican and that means Trump to
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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #6)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:59 AM
MisterFred (525 posts)
9. Yeah, she doesn't care at all about red states.
I remember when she talked about how meaningless her South Carolina win was...
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Response to MisterFred (Reply #9)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:09 PM
bigdarryl (13,190 posts)
11. SC isn't exactly a reddest state compared to Utah
Dems in Presidential elections have won SC in the past
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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #11)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:23 PM
MisterFred (525 posts)
12. WTF is your point.
Oh, yes, SC went dem in one election 40 years ago when Utah went R. That's SOOO much more important to today's world than the one election where Utah went dem and SC went R 52 years ago.
Seriously, are you arguing just for the sake of arguing? I did have a good laugh at the 'evidence' that you use to get me to believe SC is so much more liberal than Utah. |
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:26 PM
Land Shark (6,346 posts)
13. Sanders speaking at 2 major events this afternoon in SLC, Utah
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:57 AM
ViseGrip (3,133 posts)
18. This is the part of the race, Hillary was to run in alone.
It was front loaded for her. They had no idea who could possibly come out and be a better candidate.
Thanks for running Bernie. You're going to be the next president. |