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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:19 PM Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders Just Filed Paperwork To Sue The DNC. Here’s Why.

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by mcar (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Think Progress

Late in the day on Thursday, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) filed paperwork to continue an ongoing lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee. The reason surrounds an incident with the Hillary Clinton campaign that occurred more than three months ago.

The lawsuit argues that the DNC unfairly barred Sanders from accessing critical voter information — specifically, a 50-state “voter file” containing information about how to reach potential voters. The DNC briefly suspended Sanders’ access to that file in December, after one of his staffers improperly accessed Clinton’s voter data.

At the time, Sanders’ campaign officials admitted that their staffer did improperly look at Clinton’s data. But they contended that it was also the DNC’s fault, because a DNC software vendor allowed a glitch in the system which ultimately made Clinton’s data available. The glitch also made Sanders’ data available to the Clinton campaign — though no one on Clinton’s staff looked at it.

More complications arose. DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz accused the Sanders team of exporting and downloading Clinton’s voter data to use at a later date. Sanders campaign officials denied this charge, and said they did not do anything with the information. “We did not gain any material benefit,” said Sanders’ former national data director Josh Uretsky, who was later fired over the incident.

Eventually, the DNC suspended Sanders’ access to the voter file. One day later, the DNC and Sanders came to a deal, and Sanders’ access to the voter file was restored.

Still, the Sanders’ campaign sued, arguing that the DNC overreacted by suspending their access, and had harmed their ability to campaign on an equal playing field with Clinton. Moreover, Sanders’ attorneys argued that the DNC broke its contract with the campaign, which stated that the DNC must give notice before suspending access to information. The campaign is seeking $75,000 in damages.

“The DNC, in an inappropriate overreaction, has denied us access to our own data,” Sanders campaign Weaver said at the time. “In other words, the leadership of the Democratic National Committee is actively trying to undermine our campaign.”

Read more: http://linkis.com/thinkprogress.org/po/xoNrb



YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! And About Damn Time!
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Bernie Sanders Just Filed Paperwork To Sue The DNC. Here’s Why. (Original Post) LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 OP
He's not a Democrat liberal N proud Mar 2016 #1
paul whats his name running against wasserman shults is, they did the same to him Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #5
No, THEY aren't Democrats. Gregorian Mar 2016 #8
lol! they are what democrats used to be Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #25
He's not a Democrat! Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #22
Hmmmpf progressoid Mar 2016 #37
He's a Democrat + monicaangela Mar 2016 #56
I'm gals you defined for me who is a real democrat whew i would never had known. wilt the stilt Mar 2016 #84
He's more of a Dem than Hillary is. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #57
Only when he needs to be liberal N proud Mar 2016 #76
He will run back to independence one he loses the nomination. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #80
I'm not sure you understand the meaning of liberal or proud... R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #58
All it takes to be a Democrat is to check a box on a form. frylock Mar 2016 #71
He's more a Democrat than HC or DWS RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #83
As a Democrat, I don't like this. yardwork Mar 2016 #2
it should remind you that the establishment rigs the system. Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #6
Sad, isn't it? OnyxCollie Mar 2016 #17
Worse than sad. Disgraceful is a better word. Duval Mar 2016 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #62
dems supporting dems is not rigging the system saturnsring Mar 2016 #19
third way establishment dems preventing anyone from challenging them is undemocratic. Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #26
This ^^^^ AlbertCat Mar 2016 #82
+1 deutsey Mar 2016 #49
Ignorance is bliss ... Scuba Mar 2016 #53
How was this incident rigging the system? Sanders campaign committed the dirty act. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #67
Well, I feel less good about St. Hillary, The Annointed. So There. Hoppy Mar 2016 #20
Why? If the case has merit then he will win. If not, he won't. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #21
Would you feel better about him if he stayed independent and ran in the general ? CincyDem Mar 2016 #32
If Wasserman Schultz and the DNC are what Democrats are, it's them that you Gene Debs Mar 2016 #39
Exactly alarimer Mar 2016 #52
Yah Plucketeer Mar 2016 #44
Echos of "My party, right or wrong, my party" Duppers Mar 2016 #46
they had to file or it was going to get dismissed automatically Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #3
Great to see Bernie calling DWS's bluff. jalan48 Mar 2016 #4
Yes.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #7
As usual, the P.B. does not share the entire story. Chichiri Mar 2016 #9
Good point. But what is "P.B."? (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2016 #13
Kickin' Faux pas Mar 2016 #10
Thank You! LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #16
Yassssss FrostyAusty Mar 2016 #11
Yes... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #15
Thank you! FrostyAusty Mar 2016 #35
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #24
So, are you saying Hillary supporters should NOT vote in Nov.? Pathwalker Mar 2016 #31
That's not what she said, but if it makes you feel better to believe it, go anead. nt Hekate Mar 2016 #27
Yes! I'm taking my mom in the morning. We're both women. Zira Mar 2016 #72
If the DNC and Clinton campaign haven't done anything wrong Jarqui Mar 2016 #12
That's the Point. LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #14
The lawsuit doesn't even allege HRC took data, but it admits BS staffers accessed HRC data. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #34
A primary source of Politifact's funding is closely associated with the Jarqui Mar 2016 #70
The one's who did something wrong was the Sanders' campaign. Beacool Mar 2016 #63
Nope that is not the whole story Jarqui Mar 2016 #74
So if I drop my wallet, and someone takes the money.... LisaM Mar 2016 #18
Yes, and then the thief has the gumption to sue the victim of the theft. Beacool Mar 2016 #64
As a Democrat, I love this. Helen Borg Mar 2016 #23
Indeed... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #28
Neither Sanders nor Clinton allowed the Records to be opened. A judge said this needed to be heard DhhD Mar 2016 #78
has anyone heard a rumor Merryland Mar 2016 #29
Have you heard the rumor that Bill Clinton killed Vince Foster? Democat Mar 2016 #33
Yes - This Citizen Can Imagine That cantbeserious Mar 2016 #43
Yes, that was a while back. Duval Mar 2016 #55
Realistically, what impact might this have? Orrex Mar 2016 #30
Sore Loser!!!!! n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #36
Yeah that's what she'll be nt LiberalElite Mar 2016 #41
In your dreams.......... Beacool Mar 2016 #65
Actively Working to Keep This Thread CLEAN of Spin... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #38
Here's to Fuddnik, who came up with the proper name for this scandal: Wassergate. forest444 Mar 2016 #40
Nice Name For It.. LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #42
The genius is in its simplicity. forest444 Mar 2016 #47
Bows..... Fuddnik Mar 2016 #69
Wasser means Water in German. thereismore Mar 2016 #73
YES! Duval Mar 2016 #45
Rock On... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #61
DNC and Sanders struck deal, and Sanders’ access to voter file was restored; but he stilled sued Justice Mar 2016 #48
Whine, whine, whine. His staff took info they weren't entitled to, but it's somebody else's fault. Hoyt Mar 2016 #51
The cluelessness of this OP is astounding. BS did NOT "file" a new lawsuit. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #54
Well, he really isn't a Democrat. Beacool Mar 2016 #59
An opinion piece about news from yesterday in LBN that wasn't LBN then either. onehandle Mar 2016 #60
The DNC should pay Sanders the $75,000. stopbush Mar 2016 #66
Is the DNC under a legal obligation under the law to provide him the information? cstanleytech Mar 2016 #68
It's procedural. DNC & Sanders camp getting along fine. Much ado - nothing. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #75
The Sanders campaign learned this strategy from the Republicans. RandySF Mar 2016 #77
The Democratic establishment learned this strategy from the Republicans. OnyxCollie Mar 2016 #79
Pure class - steal the data Politicub Mar 2016 #81

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
1. He's not a Democrat
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:21 PM
Mar 2016

And this makes that very clear!

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
5. paul whats his name running against wasserman shults is, they did the same to him
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

He also won his case against the DLC yesterday

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
8. No, THEY aren't Democrats.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

We can argue, but it's academic.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
25. lol! they are what democrats used to be
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

Before the reagan revolution. I know my history.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
22. He's not a Democrat!
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

That's it? That's all you've got?

progressoid

(49,947 posts)
37. Hmmmpf
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:02 PM
Mar 2016

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
56. He's a Democrat +
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:30 PM
Mar 2016

This is what many don't understand. Democrats many of them are becoming republican lite. Bernie is running on the democratic ticket and this means the democratic party has acknowledged the fact that he will represent democrats. He is representing democrats as far as I am concerned. Not the DLC thank God, the real democrats. Funny how an Independent appears to follow what used to be the democratic platform better than supposed democratic politicians. No Wall Street donation, he's not backing pay day loan vultures...Bernie is a real Democrat. What are those other people?

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
84. I'm gals you defined for me who is a real democrat whew i would never had known.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:23 PM
Mar 2016

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
57. He's more of a Dem than Hillary is.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:30 PM
Mar 2016

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
76. Only when he needs to be
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:05 PM
Mar 2016

Doesn't want to run by party rules, and only shows up to get access to party resources.

He will run back to independence one he loses the nomination.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
80. He will run back to independence one he loses the nomination.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:19 PM
Mar 2016

I don't think he'll run anywhere, but should he lose the nomination, he will stroll back the the independence from Republican Lite.... and hopefully so will all the other true Dems who are sick of Corporate, Third Way, crap.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
58. I'm not sure you understand the meaning of liberal or proud...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:35 PM
Mar 2016

If you didn't understand that Bernie is more Democratic than the turd way bullshitters polluting the party.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
71. All it takes to be a Democrat is to check a box on a form.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:54 PM
Mar 2016

Is it your contention that he didn't check the box on that form?

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
83. He's more a Democrat than HC or DWS
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:22 PM
Mar 2016

He only left the Democratic Party, when the Democratic Party left WE THE PEOPLE, and are now fighting for them, the corporations.
Billy Ray Joe Bob Clinton is another RepubliCON in Democrat's clothing. The programs that he passed did not favor anyone but the business community.
But there are too many people who fall for what they say, and not what they DO.
It's high time that we focused on what folks DO rather than what they say.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
2. As a Democrat, I don't like this.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:22 PM
Mar 2016

It reminds me that Sanders hasn't been a Democrat all these years, and only became one to run for president. It doesn't make me feel good about him.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
6. it should remind you that the establishment rigs the system.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:27 PM
Mar 2016
 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
17. Sad, isn't it?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016
 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
50. Worse than sad. Disgraceful is a better word.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:15 PM
Mar 2016

All these guys talking about Bernie's "not being a Democrat" is so ridiculous. He voted with the Dems all those many years and he IS A DEMOCRAT NOW. Let's stop this silly crap.

Response to Duval (Reply #50)

 

saturnsring

(1,832 posts)
19. dems supporting dems is not rigging the system
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
26. third way establishment dems preventing anyone from challenging them is undemocratic.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:47 PM
Mar 2016
 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
82. This ^^^^
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:20 PM
Mar 2016

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
49. +1
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:15 PM
Mar 2016
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
53. Ignorance is bliss ...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:20 PM
Mar 2016
 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
67. How was this incident rigging the system? Sanders campaign committed the dirty act.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:48 PM
Mar 2016

Just think if the HC camp had been the recipient of the BS data and did the same thing? Folks here would be calling for her disqualification. Bernie camp is obviously out to win...by any means possible.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
20. Well, I feel less good about St. Hillary, The Annointed. So There.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016
 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
21. Why? If the case has merit then he will win. If not, he won't.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

If he in fact does win, and the DNC is proven corrupt, are you saying that is not something you would like to know?

CincyDem

(6,338 posts)
32. Would you feel better about him if he stayed independent and ran in the general ?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:54 PM
Mar 2016

Taking that route would likely give him much less exposure so lets assume that instead of getting 20-30-40% of the Dem primary vote he was getting 2-3-4% of the general vote. You think that would come from Trump/Cruz ? Or more likely Clinton.

Now - maybe she won't need it in November (and the continuing clown car we call the Republican primaries make that more likely with every passing headline). But what if it's close. What if HRC wins a couple of her big states by a few points...will we be looking back at this primary season and wish that Bernie were in the general (instead of messing around with OUR democratic primaries).

What makes me feel good about him (and to be clear if HRC is the nominee I'll have a blue yard sign and work to get her elected)...but what makes me feel good about Bernie is that he's having the fight in the family (i.e. primaries) vs. taking it to the streets (i.e. general).



And for those Bernie supporters who want to see him as a write in for the general. Com'on folks...get f'ing real. I'm sorry but you might as well take your ballot out into the street and light it on fire.

And for those Bernie supporters who want to stay home to send a message in the general. Com'on folks...get f'ing real. I'm sorry but only losers learn lessons from that kind of experience. So if HRC wins, nobody will care about your message.

And if HRC loses (cuz stay at home voters were on strike) and she'll learn a lesson, the Democratic party will learn a lesson, DWS will lose her job and the country will give Trump 2-3 seats on SCOTUS. They'll be there until I die and I'll be damned if I'm going to let the fact that I wish it were Bernie in the general get in the way of me making the right choice - that would be getting my ass out on election day and voting for whomever is the Democratic nominee.

I say this as a die hard Bernie supporter sitting in a Starbucks with my light blue Bernie shirt on in a state that he's already lost. For those of us in Ohio who voted for Bernie, we didn't get what we wanted under our primary night Christmas tree. Yeah - that happens. But to jump from supporting Bernie to enabling any Republican - that's just a bridge too f'ing far for me.

HRC "may" be the lesser of two evils in the general but she's the lesser evil not by an inch but by a country mile. In fact, HRC and Trump aren't even on the same planet.

OK - not what I was intending to post but it just sort of leaked out. Peace yardwork, not intended as a rant on you or your p.o.v. specifically...just my general frustration for the "Dem-lights" getting reved up with pre-emptive announcements that the won't vote for HRC no matter what. Please, get a clue. I love me some progressive but I'm not willing to take a trip through 4 years of anarchy with Trump/Cruz to get there.

 

Gene Debs

(582 posts)
39. If Wasserman Schultz and the DNC are what Democrats are, it's them that you
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:03 PM
Mar 2016

really shouldn't feel good about.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
52. Exactly
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

It's Democrats like her that make cringe about claiming the label myself.

It's become all about winning here. Principles be damned.

I keep repeating that if Paul Wellstone or Russ Feingold or any number of good Democrats (as opposed to bad ones like Schultz and Chuck Shumer) espoused the kinds of policies Bernie Sanders does (and they DID, in fact), almost no one here would oppose them, not even Hillary backers. So many don't really seem to care about the facts and about what it really means to be a Democrat that it's just sad.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
44. Yah
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:11 PM
Mar 2016

You'd THINK the Dems would've been protesting all these years that Bernie has been their ally. How DARE he!?

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
46. Echos of "My party, right or wrong, my party"
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

Let's correct what is wrong with the Democratic leadership. Apparently, you think they're behaving fairly?!



Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
3. they had to file or it was going to get dismissed automatically
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:23 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie says they are still in talks to settle and expects that to happen without going to court.

jalan48

(13,841 posts)
4. Great to see Bernie calling DWS's bluff.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
7. Yes....
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:27 PM
Mar 2016

It is good to see indeed.

Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
9. As usual, the P.B. does not share the entire story.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

Literally the next paragraph!

The filing that happened on Thursday is a continuation of this lawsuit from December. Specifically, it is a service of process. In layman’s terms, this means the Sanders campaign has technically “served” the DNC.

The campaign, however, is downplaying the service as procedural. The filing itself says the motion was taken “simply in order to preserve the status quo.” And that is true — if the Sanders campaign had not issued the summons, their lawsuit would have been thrown out. Federal law requires a service of process to be issued 90 days after a civil lawsuit is filed.


In other words, this was simply to keep the option of a civil suit open before the deadline expires. This is BS's way of maintaining some leverage over the DNC for how to maximize the concessions he'll receive for dropping out. And it's honestly not a bad move.

thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
13. Good point. But what is "P.B."? (n/t)
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

Faux pas

(14,644 posts)
10. Kickin'
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:29 PM
Mar 2016

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
16. Thank You!
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:35 PM
Mar 2016

FrostyAusty

(57 posts)
11. Yassssss
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

Keep fighting the good fight Bernie! We deserve a fair and honest chance, keep exposing the rigged system, more and more people are beginning to wake up.
We will crush Hillary here in WA tomorrow, but i'm sure we'll just be told by HRC supporters we don't count since were a super white, all male Demo up here in Seattle ....

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
15. Yes...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:35 PM
Mar 2016

And Welcome to DU. Have you considered joining the "Bernie Sanders" group yet?

FrostyAusty

(57 posts)
35. Thank you!
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:00 PM
Mar 2016

I just joined the group!!

Response to FrostyAusty (Reply #11)

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
31. So, are you saying Hillary supporters should NOT vote in Nov.?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:54 PM
Mar 2016

Are you seriously advocating that anyone who supports Hillary Clinton should NOT bother to vote in the November general election?

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
27. That's not what she said, but if it makes you feel better to believe it, go anead. nt
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:48 PM
Mar 2016
 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
72. Yes! I'm taking my mom in the morning. We're both women.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:56 PM
Mar 2016

Go Bernie!!!

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
12. If the DNC and Clinton campaign haven't done anything wrong
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

they have nothing to worry about.

There's nothing wrong with Bernie carrying on the lawsuit. He's asserting his legal rights against an organization that should be treating him without bias but have not done so.

There's no problem for the DNC or Clinton unless they have misbehaved. If they took Sanders data like the Sanders campaign suspects last October, they have a big problem.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
14. That's the Point.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016

This....

"There's no problem for the DNC or Clinton unless they have misbehaved. If they took Sanders data like the Sanders campaign suspects last October, they have a big problem."

Yep!

SunSeeker

(51,513 posts)
34. The lawsuit doesn't even allege HRC took data, but it admits BS staffers accessed HRC data.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016
According to a lawsuit filed by the Sanders campaign, "several staff members of the campaign accessed and viewed confidential Information" that belonged to the Clinton campaign.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/22/bernie-s/Sanders-take-Clinton-voter-data/

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
70. A primary source of Politifact's funding is closely associated with the
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:53 PM
Mar 2016

Clintons and their Foundation so you have to take Politifact with a big grain of salt. I've covered that in prior posts so I'm not keep going through that every time this comes up. Folks can do that for themselves.

Secondly, the Sanders campaign alleged this when this whole thing went down. You have to keep up.

A link from the article at in the top post:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-suspension/

Weaver said the original problem with the database's security, which did not involve the current database access company NGP VAN, dated back to October.

"We were very concerned that large amounts of our own data was being downloaded and we contacted the DNC to remedy the situation," he said. "We talked to them and we were assured that this was going to be taken care of. But apparently they are not competent in terms of maintaining the security of their data between the campaigns."


I haven't got the time nor the inclination to waste time going through this again. The claim is a fact and if they do not get a fair audit and investigation of what happened last October, then the lawsuit is going to go ahead full bore and I don't blame them a bit.

This was a crystal clear example of the unequal treatment of the two campaigns by the DNC. The Sanders campaign reports a breach and compromising of their data last October, the DNC does nothing. This dust up in December happens where folks in the Sanders campaign saw some of Clintons data and there is a big outcry and it's taken to the media.

Hillary Clinton and her campaign owns the DNC. If they do not come clean with an audit for last October, etc, then Sanders should follow through on his lawsuit and nail them for everything he can get and pass it to the media - just like the DNC and Clinton did to the Sanders campaign.

Whether the Clinton campaign and DNC likes it or not, unlike the application of the DNC bylaws in this election, the law is one set of rules that both parties have to adhere to.

If the Clinton campaign and DNC can't play fair, they should be nailed for it.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
63. The one's who did something wrong was the Sanders' campaign.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:39 PM
Mar 2016

One of his staffers accessed Hillary's list of supporters and downloaded it. That's stealing.

Quite hypocritical to turn it around and sue the DNC.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
74. Nope that is not the whole story
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:58 PM
Mar 2016

To get Sanders to not pursue his lawsuit, the Clinton campaign and DNC agreed to an investigation of what happened last October - when Sanders claims their data was compromised.

If the Clinton campaign and the DNC do not follow through on that agreement, Sanders in within his rights to follow through in his lawsuit. From the Sanders campaign's perspective, it looks like last October, someone more than inadvertently stumbled into a data breach.

Sorry, the facts cut both ways on this one.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
18. So if I drop my wallet, and someone takes the money....
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:39 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:13 PM - Edit history (1)

it's my fault for dropping the wallet and she or he is not a thief? Okay.....

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
64. Yes, and then the thief has the gumption to sue the victim of the theft.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:41 PM
Mar 2016

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
23. As a Democrat, I love this.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

The DNC has been sabotaging the Democratic party for a long time now. Time to clean the house.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
28. Indeed...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:49 PM
Mar 2016

Indeed...

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
78. Neither Sanders nor Clinton allowed the Records to be opened. A judge said this needed to be heard
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:06 PM
Mar 2016

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
29. has anyone heard a rumor
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:51 PM
Mar 2016

that the fired Sanders' campaign workers may have been moles from the Clinton campaign? I'm not trying to start a rumor, but I did read that speculation somewhere & wondered if anyone else had?

Democat

(11,617 posts)
33. Have you heard the rumor that Bill Clinton killed Vince Foster?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

Try Rush Limbaugh.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
43. Yes - This Citizen Can Imagine That
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

eom

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
55. Yes, that was a while back.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:24 PM
Mar 2016

I haven't seen anything more about it.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
30. Realistically, what impact might this have?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:53 PM
Mar 2016

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
36. Sore Loser!!!!! n/t
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:02 PM
Mar 2016

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
41. Yeah that's what she'll be nt
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:08 PM
Mar 2016

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
65. In your dreams..........
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:42 PM
Mar 2016

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
38. Actively Working to Keep This Thread CLEAN of Spin...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:02 PM
Mar 2016

Derailment, Baiting and All That Jazz.

Feel Free to Help Bernie Supporters! Thanks!

forest444

(5,902 posts)
40. Here's to Fuddnik, who came up with the proper name for this scandal: Wassergate.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:08 PM
Mar 2016

This one's for you, bud.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
42. Nice Name For It..
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

Wassergate.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
47. The genius is in its simplicity.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

Definitely had a "wish I had thought of that" moment when I saw it: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251938536

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
69. Bows.....
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:51 PM
Mar 2016

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
73. Wasser means Water in German.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:57 PM
Mar 2016
 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
45. YES!
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:12 PM
Mar 2016

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
61. Rock On...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:37 PM
Mar 2016

Justice

(7,185 posts)
48. DNC and Sanders struck deal, and Sanders’ access to voter file was restored; but he stilled sued
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

That is all I needed to see to make up my own mind.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
51. Whine, whine, whine. His staff took info they weren't entitled to, but it's somebody else's fault.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:16 PM
Mar 2016

He got the data pretty quickly, so don't make it sound like his being behind is the fault of the DNC. Go find his staff people who are not honorable.

SunSeeker

(51,513 posts)
54. The cluelessness of this OP is astounding. BS did NOT "file" a new lawsuit.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:23 PM
Mar 2016

This is about the same lawsuit that has been sitting moribund since December, having been filed but never served. The Court told the BS campaign that if it did not serve the damn thing by Thursday, the Court would dismiss it (throw it out). So, the BS campaign was FORCED to move forward with their lawsuit or lose it. All the campaign did was finally serve it (officially deliver a copy of it) on the DNC.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/bernie-sanders-dnc-lawsuit-221216

This is a very misleading OP. At best, it amounts to opinion, but the headline really is a lie. The BS campaign did not "file" paperwork "to sue" the DNC. They ALREADY sued the DNC. They filed the lawsuit last December. What they did yesterday was serve the lawsuit on the DNC, as ordered by the Court, in order to avoid that lawsuit from being dismissed. This garbage belongs in GDP or the Bernie Group, if anywhere.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
59. Well, he really isn't a Democrat.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:35 PM
Mar 2016

Therefore, he has no loyalty to the party.

I find it highly hypocritical to sue the DNC as a result of illegal actions committed by one of his staffers. For all the bellyaching about Hillary "stealing" votes from Sanders, it was someone from Sanders' campaign who actually did steal information from his opponent.

The one who should have sued is Hillary. After all, it was her information that had been accessed.

I don't think that the DNC overreacted. If it had been one of Hillary's staffers who had accessed Sanders' campaign information, his supporters would still be bringing it up and demanding that the DNC freeze her campaign's access to the party's website.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
60. An opinion piece about news from yesterday in LBN that wasn't LBN then either.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:36 PM
Mar 2016

The hosts are napping.

stopbush

(24,392 posts)
66. The DNC should pay Sanders the $75,000.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:42 PM
Mar 2016

At the rate of $27 a month...

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
68. Is the DNC under a legal obligation under the law to provide him the information?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:48 PM
Mar 2016

Fla Dem

(23,590 posts)
75. It's procedural. DNC & Sanders camp getting along fine. Much ado - nothing.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:02 PM
Mar 2016
The campaign, however, is downplaying the service as procedural. The filing itself says the motion was taken “simply in order to preserve the status quo.” And that is true — if the Sanders campaign had not issued the summons, their lawsuit would have been thrown out. Federal law requires a service of process to be issued 90 days after a civil lawsuit is filed.

Both the Sanders campaign and the DNC insist talks are going smoothly. DNC press secretary Mark Paustenbach told Politco that “productive discussions” were underway for a settlement. Sanders communications director Michael Briggs said the campaign was “continuing to cooperate” with the DNC.

RandySF

(58,488 posts)
77. The Sanders campaign learned this strategy from the Republicans.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:05 PM
Mar 2016

Get caught doing something unethical and call it wrongdoing by someone else.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
79. The Democratic establishment learned this strategy from the Republicans.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:19 PM
Mar 2016

Rig the system to favor the establishment elites while punching down the underdog.

Authoritarian followers of establishment candidates will predictably fall in line with such behavior.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
81. Pure class - steal the data
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:19 PM
Mar 2016

Then sue who you stole it from.

Very presidential of him.

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