D.C. Madam's Attorney Says Call Log Bombshell Could Upend 2016 Race

[Judi Lynn]

Source: U, S. News & World Report

D.C. Madam's Attorney Says Call Log Bombshell Could Upend 2016 Race

Judges 'are letting people vote blindly,' gagged lawyer says.

By Steven Nelson
March 28, 2016, at 2:55 p.m.

A lawyer who represented the so-called “D.C. madam” says he has phone records that could influence the outcome of the presidential election, and he’s threatening to release one or more names on the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court if he’s denied a hearing on his right to distribute them.

Montgomery Blair Sibley, the late madam Deborah Palfrey’s colorful attorney, has been subject to a restraining order since 2007 barring him from releasing the information, which he says includes 815 names, addresses and Social Security numbers of Verizon Wireless customers.

“Time is of the essence because people are casting votes in primaries and caucuses,” he says. “I believe this information is relevant to that political discourse.”

Sibley first said the records could be relevant to the presidential race in January, when there were 15 high-profile candidates. Now, just three Republicans and two Democrats remain – though Sibley won’t say if any are implicated, citing fear of being jailed for contempt.

Read more: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-28/dc-madams-attorney-says-call-log-bombshell-could-upend-presidential-race

[Jackie Wilson Said]

1. Oh I gotta know more LOL

WE know it wont be Bernie or Hillary...so it has to be one of those slime-balls, I dont care if they are still running or not

[billhicks76]

49. She Said She Would Never Commit Suicide

And then she was found hung in FL. She was obviously murdered but our press is full of cowards who were to afraid to dog for the truth. Just like many of our fellow citizens prefer ignorance. Cheney no doubt or the CIA preserving continuity.

[Mike Daniels]

88. She actually told a reporter from Time that she would commit suicide before going to prison again

She went to prison previously for prostitution related charges and said she wouldn't relive the process.

[billhicks76]

90. That Reporter Was Discredited

I assume you meant that author. The CIA biographer. And she said on national radio she wouldn't kill herself. That authors claim is unsubstantiated and he is an outted CIA informant.

[wildbilln864]

108. thank you. n/t

[Bob41213]

113. I've got to know more too. Lol

I would never say never in Washington though. I've been surprised plenty by politicians (and people in general). I saw a list that speculated the least likely to most likely. To my recollection it went:

5) Hillary cause she's a woman (I also think it ignored Bill as a possibility)
4) Trump cause he doesn't need to pay for it
3) Bernie
2) Kasich
1) Cruz

FWIW

[Botany]

2. Wasn't one of the women in the National Enquirer Ted Cruz piece a hooker?

[roguevalley]

16. I wonder if this has bill's name in it? If it did it would explode HRC's campaign. I think limiting

it to men might be too small a reach. This guy has major cojones to do this.

[Baobab]

21. I doubt it

also, as much as i dislike Cruz, i'm even more sick of all the crap thats getting put forward as news to push issues out of the public eye.

[dynamo99]

27. Nah

If you're the Prez of the USA, you don't need commercial services to get a hookup. As history demonstrates.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. What an awful thing to say...

I wonder if this has bill's name in it? If it did it would explode HRC's campaign.

What an awful thing to say... But I can't say I'm surprised.

[840high]

41. With his histiry - not awful.

[floriduck]

44. My first thought was the Donald.

[Amaril]

78. Ditto! n/t

[Jackie Wilson Said]

114. Would get him more votes, though.

[awoke_in_2003]

87. Why it so awful?

We know his past. Hell, if it came out the Sanders was on the list it would shock and disappoint me, but it wouldn't be the first time- my first choice in 08 was Edwards. I know we hate to admit it, but none of these people are perfect.

[adigal]

107. Let's be real, does anyone think he ever stopped cheating on Hillary? I'm sure she said "Be discreet

And what's more discreet than a high class madam? I don't think this will hurt Hillary if it comes out though, as much as it would hurt the actual men who may have used this service and are running for office.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

115. And yet we are both afraid of the possibility. The good news is if Hillary had already

been picked, we would have time to switch to Bernie if necessary.

Personally, I would not see any reason for anyone who calls themselves liberal to give a shit who sleeps with who.


EDITED: I wish I had not responded at all...this is nothing more than smearing Ms. Clinton and I dont go for that

[DemocratSinceBirth]

117. Respectfully, please speak for yourself.

I doubt Bill is putting the wood to escorts so it would be illogical for me to fear it being revealed. And in any case it has nothing to do with his spouse.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

118. Agreed, I shouldnt have responded at all... this is just more bullshit to attack Hillary

too late to delete but I will revise

[liberal N proud]

29. That horse ran it's race a long time ago.

[NJCher]

35. yep, 'fraid so

Funny, though!


Cher

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

31. EXACTLY what I was thinking in my devious mind.

Would ANYONE be shocked to learn that?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

119. Thinking or hoping?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

121. Both. I am rooting for Bernie over Hillary, after all

[Jackie Wilson Said]

122. So you hope President Clinton is exposed to have been involved with this

AND you are hoping the leading Democratic candidate is ruined?

Really?

Even if she wins the nomination?

What then?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

123. She WILL NOT Be the nominee. Any more questions?

[Angel Martin]

42. Hillary doesn't have much margin for error here,

and I am sure she has Bill on a very short leash.

If Bill starts to act up during this campaign, Hillary is liable to phone Joni Ernst and ask for suggestions.

[6000eliot]

48. Of course the Bernie-bots have to make this about Hillary.

This line of attack is not sexist in the least.

[Darb]

67. I've seen it before.

In the '90s, on the back of my grandmothers bathroom door, a poster of the Clinton Body Count. The bernies reach a new low every day. One of them should speak up about it, but so far......crickets.

[hedgehog]

104. Wait - all Sanders' supporters must publicly deny any possibility

that Bill Clinton ever used this call-girl service? IMHO, it may or may not have happened, but it is certainly in the realm of the possible.

[Mr.Bill]

109. What Bill Clinton doesn't have a record of

is paying for it.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

72. Sexist? How's that? Bill does have a record of philandering.

Bernie-bots my ass.

[6000eliot]

76. And that has exactly WHAT to do with Hillary?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

85. Aren't they kind of related in some way? Marriage, maybe?

[6000eliot]

96. Holding a wife responsible for her husband's actions is sexist.

Do I really need to spell this out? Would HE be held responsible for HER infidelities?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

99. OF COURSE NOT!, but he will be roaming the halls of the White House, and I don't want to go back.

[hereforthevoting]

102. In a tight presidential election

You bet your swim trunks it would come up.

[EllieBC]

120. So sexism is ok because it's a primary?

Sexism is never ok, regardless of what the Bros want to believe.

[mahina]

94. Agreed.

[EllieBC]

47. I bet conservatives wonder the same.

It's kind of cute how some on the left have started using the late 90s language of conservatives. And by cute I mean disturbing.

[Democat]

57. They sound exactly like right wingers because they probably are

The primaries have stopped DU from banning right wing trolls.

[Darb]

65. We get banned instead. Push back and your message gets pulled.

Bunch of crybabies. If I were a bagger troll I would hide out in the Bernie crowd for sure. There are so many willing to protect you as long as it helps them get their "democratic" socialist elected. No low is too low.

[beastie boy]

73. A month ago I was banned for saying half as much

Good to know that banning a single poster doesn't shut the community up

[hobbit709]

97. So you admit to being banned and now you're back?

[beastie boy]

110. You make it sound like a sin in need of confession.

No, I don't "admit". I state.

And if I am being silenced for no reason, you bet I'll be back!

[hobbit709]

111. I wonder who the previous incarnation was. Your style reminds me of a couple.

[beastie boy]

112. You are welcome to sift through the 232,392 user registrations.

Meanwhile, allow me to proceed with something comparatively productive: watch the grass grow.

[Democat]

56. You sound like a right wing troll

Go back to the Primaries forum or Free Republic.

[Sunlei]

92. yes, the hooker who said Cruz liked her dressed as a schoolgirl.

[Glimmer of Hope]

3. Very interesting...

[bluestateguy]

4. Cruz was not in DC until 2013

And the madam died in 2007.

[Dustlawyer]

7. When did Cruz clerk for the Supreme Court?

[Wilms]

10. 1995 and 96.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz#Clerkships

[4139]

11. He was in the DC area until 2003, worked for DOJ

[Contrary1]

13. Cruz worked at the Washington law firm of Cooper, Carvin & Rosenthal in '97 and '98

Also joined Dubya's presidential campaign in 1999 as a domestic policy adviser...so he could have been in DC.

He wasn't yet married, so I don't see much damage, even if it turns out to be him.

[billhicks76]

50. Killed Not Just Died

[JDPriestly]

59. Wrong.

Cruz graduated from Princeton University in 1992, and from Harvard Law School in 1995. Between 1999 and 2003, he was the Director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and domestic policy advisor to George W. Bush on the 2000 George W. Bush presidential campaign. He served as Solicitor General of Texas, from 2003 to 2008, appointed by Texas Attorney General, Greg Abbott. He was the first Hispanic, and the longest-serving, Solicitor General in Texas history. From 2004 to 2009, Cruz was also an adjunct professor at the University of Texas School of Law in Austin, where he taught U.S. Supreme Court litigation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

Then there is Kasich.

Kasich served nine terms as a member of the United States House of Representatives, representing Ohio's 12th congressional district from 1983 to 2001.[5] His tenure in the House included 18 years on the House Armed Services Committee and six years as chairman of the House Budget Committee. He was a key figure in the passage of both welfare reform and the Balanced Budget Act of 1997.

He was a commentator on Fox News Channel, hosting Heartland with John Kasich from 2001 to 2007. He also worked as an investment banker, a managing director of Lehman Brothers' Columbus, Ohio, office.[6][7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kasich

Bernie was also in D.C. in the appropriate period, but I don't see him as linked into the sort of network that would have tipped him off about the D.C. madam. Also it is hard for me to imagine Bernie spending the money or the time on something like that. He doesn't even bother to comb his hair some of the time. I don't think he has the ego for visiting a prostitute but I could be wrong.

The entire story could be bogus. May be that not a one of them is on that list but that this is an opportunity to create a stir anyway.

[Scuba]

5. Being in the madam's book would help Trump, hurt Cruz badly.

I won't speculate on others.

[CTyankee]

93. well, Cruz is so creepy perhaps all he could get was a hooker he had to pay and I'll bet

they're not cheap...

[Dont call me Shirley]

6. Teddy on a teddy...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. Teddy IN a teddy ... horrors!

[Dont call me Shirley]

15. Chills, and not good ones either...

[johnfunk]

20. … and caught in bed with a dead girl AND a live boy!

[SCantiGOP]

24. Well, that's proof

That picture couldn't have been faked.

[liberal N proud]

30. Oh, my EYES!

Don't do that to us.

[trusty elf]

63. How about this?

[img][/img]

[JustAnotherGen]

62. I just

Hate you for this! My eyes! My eyes! Some things can't be unseen.

Psst - thanks for the laugh.

[Amaril]

80. Ah, geez.........

[restorefreedom]

100. oh man, i will never unsee that lol nt

[man of few w]

8. HE has phone records?

How did Gloria Allred miss this gig?

[Jitter65]

12. Maybe he should just turn over the info to Anonymous and let them take it from there? lol

[tomm2thumbs]

39. or accidently leave them on his porch with a 'do not steal these: PRIVATE' on the envelope

not anyone's fault if something gets stolen - was not intentionally handed out

[4139]

9. While the gossip in me really wants to know, the records really aren't the attorney's...

They are the dead madam's records.

Ted? John? Donald? Bernie? Bill? or Hillary?

Or several of the above???

[csziggy]

23. At the end of the article is how he "got {his} hands on them"

From the article linked in the OP"

The records had carelessly been left in Palfrey’s basement, Sibley recalls.

“When the Keystone Kop police came in to seize everything [from Palfrey’s house] they walked by these boxes saying Pamela Martin Associates telephone records, 1996-2006, and they just left them there,” Sibley says. “So I got my hands on them and released a portion of them.”

But about a third of the records were not released, he says. “We held back these 5,000,” Sibley says. “I wanted to have something to negotiate with or surprise people at trial.”

Before trial, U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler authorized subpoenas for cellphone companies requesting personal information. Verizon Wireless returned a list containing the names, addresses and Social Security numbers of about 815 people, Sibley says – a sizable subset of the 5,000 numbers not initially released.

[DrToast]

17. Damn it, Hillary!

[Babel_17]

34. I suspect a hide might be coming your way

As a DU member it's incumbent on me to point that out, before someone alerts on your post. Rough humor is one thing, but there's also a line. I hope this comes across as friendly!

You can edit your post (or not).

[NJCher]

36. I see your point, but

It made me laugh.

And the selected emoticon was so apropos.




Cher

[Darb]

68. You were right,

I missed it. Must have said something about Bernie. You can only say anything vile you want about Hillary, not the beloved "democratic" socialist.

[Babel_17]

71. Click on the "Show" button next to to "This message was hidden by Jury decision." to see it

It was about Secretary Clinton.

[vkkv]

18. Bernie, how COULD you ! !

[NJCher]

38. gasp!

Perfect!


Cher

[johnfunk]

19. Grab…

[ConservativeDemocrat]

25. No it won't

Mark Sanford, David Vitter, and Donald Trump all prove that Republican only pretend to care about these sorts of things. It won't hurt them in the general election one whit.

They're Christian in name only.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[Justitia]

26. I always felt her story (Palfrey) was a very sad story. - eom

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

32. The PTB murdered her, of that I am sure.

There must be something pretty big in those records.

[Grins]

64. Proof, please

Then why wasn't the attorney murdered?

The is no proof at all that Palfrey was murdered.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

70. Google is your friend.

When the government does it, there usually is no "proof".

[beastie boy]

74. In this case, it was the government that murdered Nicole Brown Simpson...

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

75. huh?

[beastie boy]

79. When absence of proof is presented as proof, you can claim anything.

Did you ever watch any of those History Channel programs about aliens?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

86. Let me remind you what my original comment was (emphasis is mine)

The PTB murdered her, of that I am sure.

I don't need to prove to you that "I" believe she was offed by the gubmint. You're probably one of those that thinks 9/11 was pulled off without Bush/Cheney knowledge. Don't be naïve.

I'm betting you won't look at this link:
http://www.ae911truth.org/gallery/evidence.html

[beastie boy]

95. OK-KAY, now it's 9/11

I am soooo convinced!

[pnwmom]

33. Releasing SS numbers should never be allowed. n/t

[Firebrand Gary]

37. It's Kasich! BET ON IT!

John Kasich was a member of Congress from January 3, 1983 – January 3, 2001, He was there for the DC Madam era... It's Kasich, the GOP's "convention failsafe" is screwed.

[RandySF]

52. It has to be.

Cruz was not in Washington at the time,

[JonLeibowitz]

54. He was, but he wasn't married until 2001.

[enigmatic]

55. If it's Kasich, it's not a a female prostitute

He's deep in the closet.

[Botany]

69. +1

n t

[Agnosticsherbet]

40. Damn skippy he should release them all.

I don't give a damn who was doing what to who, but I dislike hypocrisy.

[DebbieCDC]

43. I'd bet money Bill's in that little black book (nt)

[NJCher]

45. why doesn't he just stage a "break-in?"

Somebody breaks in, steals the records....

If he really wants the word out, that's what he'd do. I am suspecting there are other motives here.

OTOH, I am scandal-deprived and would like to believe otherwise. And you know whose fault it is, don't you! That No-Drama Obama. I've forgotten the fun of a good D.C. scandal.

One last comment. This is from Ted Cruz:

“These smears are completely false, they’re offensive to Heidi and me, they’re offensive to our daughters, and they’re offensive to everyone Donald continues to personally attack,”

Now really, look at that statement. A "smear" is "completely false?" Is that not a bit of a redundancy? Or: A completely false smear. Is that not a double negative? So that would mean it's true?

And who cares if they're offensive to Ted, his wife, and his daughters. Duh, Ted. That was the whole idea.



Cher

[Jarqui]

46. Montgomery Blair Sibley is wacky

Last edited Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:00 AM - Edit history (1)

He wrote a book on his client DC Madam, who committed suicide in 2008
http://www.whyjusther.com/
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #3,355,140 in Books (that ranking equates to selling about 1 per year - big failure)
Why Just Her Paperback – April 14, 2009 by Montgomery Blair Sibley

2007 The Colorful Case of A Well-Named Lawyer
DC and Florida suspended his law license for going after judges after his wife took him to court for child support (very roughly from memory)

This outlines what happened with him losing his ability to practice law
http://overlawyered.com/2008/05/montgomery-blair-sibley-suspended/

http://www.dcbar.org/discipline/bpr_report/MontgomeryBlairSibley40806.pdf


While that was going on, he hooked up with this career felon and lost a lawsuit against Obama with him:

2008 Larry Sinclair's lawyer (Sibley) talks about his genitalia
(at a press conference where Sinclair is arrested for passing counterfeit money orders in Delaware while eluding a warrant in Colorado for cashing some else's check and the FBI chasing Sinclair out of Laredo for smuggling illegal aliens)

The press conference was stranger than fiction with two certifiable nuts on display.
Sinclair and Sibley had a falling out and Sinclair alleged Sibley kept his money.

Sibley ran for President in 2012 ... and did his birther thing against Obama
http://montgomeryblairsibley.com/

Last year, he tried to sue Congress:
THURSDAY, APRIL 9, 2015 Montgomery Blair Sibley vs. Congress

He writes these wild briefs (this one pro se example) for his frivolous lawsuits
http://montgomeryblairsibley.com/library/SibleyvDoeInitialBrief.pdf
http://montgomeryblairsibley.com/library/SibleyvDoeRecordExtract.pdf
http://www.foavc.org/reference/Counsel2.pdf
http://www.foavc.org/reference/McConnell_Ryan_Letter_11192015.pdf

He was still working the Obama birther angle a year ago ... trying to nail Obama criminally
Montgomery Blair Sibley Suggests Citizens Nationwide Petition Their Local County Grand Jury to Investigate Obama’s Forged ID Docs

look at all this legal crap he's done fairly recently:
http://www.thepostemail.com/tag/montgomery-blair-sibley/

This example of outcome is typical
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/conlaw/2015/10/no-standing-in-case-for-constitutional-convention.html

The guy is nuts.

[Judi Lynn]

51. At least he keeps busy. n/t

[JDPriestly]

60. And this claim may be a complete fiction just to scare the candidates.

[Democat]

58. It's probably a Republican

No need to bash our side when Republicans are more likely.

[JDPriestly]

61. No. Cruz and Kasich were also in D.C. at the relevant time.

The D.C. Madam may have been kind of a hot tip in certain circles (if this story has any reality to it at all, and it well may not).

I seriously doubt that Bernie would have been on the hot tip circuit when it comes to this. See the Wikipedia articles on Cruz and Kasich and their careers in D.C. at the relevant time.

[Vinca]

66. OMG - I was going to post that exact same thing. As a joke!

I suppose this will now be the smear du jour for Hillary promoters although the likelihood of there being any truth to it having odds worse than getting bitten by a shark after being hit by lightening after falling off your solid gold yacht in the middle of an ocean of chocolate.

[Octafish]

84. CIA used DC Madam

You don't think they would run a honey trap or two on US pols?

http://milfuegos.blogspot.com/2009/07/dc-madam-had-cia-ties.html

[WIProgressive88]

98. A number of Hillary supporters lost their shit up-thread when it was (inappropriately, I would add)

suggested that President Clinton may be connected to this "bombshell", and yet those voices are strangely silent at your completely baseless accusation against Bernie. Interesting...

[smirkymonkey]

124. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't seem like Bernie's style.

Besides, I don't really think he has the money for a high-rent call girl.

[RobinA]

77. You Have To Give

your social security number to hire a hooker? Someone would give their social security number to a hooker?

[DebbieCDC]

82. The records released by Verizon had their customers' social security numbers included (nt)

[mahatmakanejeeves]

81. "Montgomery Blair Sibley, the late madam Deborah Palfrey’s colorful attorney,..."

That's putting it mildly.

Montgomery Blair Sibley

[Octafish]

83. DC Madame pampered David Vitter.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1311459

[AxionExcel]

101. Like Trump, he's a freaking embodiment of a standard Repube Value: hypocrisy

[ViseGrip]

89. Tick tock....

[dlwickham]

91. If it's Bernie I'll send him a $100 donation

[The Second Stone]

103. Wonder if it's Hillary. Lip flapper should stop teasing us and either release it or shut up

Seriously dude. Either spend the time in jail for contempt or shut up about it.

[Turborama]

105. Perhaps Trump let her run franchises in his hotels?

Just thinking out of the box.

This may not be it, but I'm sure there's a gigantic skeleton in his closet that's going to pop out sooner or later.

[DebbieCDC]

106. According to MSNBC (Tuesday night)

The attorney has jumped over the appellate court and filed a motion with SCOTUS to be released from the order.