NBC News Poll: Bernie Sanders Closing Gap On Clinton

[Purveyor]

Source: NBC News/KING

Fresh off three victories on Western state caucuses over the weekend, an NBC News National Poll of Democratic voters shows Bernie Sanders closer than ever to Hillary Clinton.

The poll shows Clinton at 49% support nationally while Sanders has risen to 43%. The 6% gap between the two candidates is half of what the difference was just a week ago, when Clinton had a 53%-41% lead nationally, according to the poll.

The NBC News/Survey Monkey poll surveyed over 6,500 adults nationally from March 21 to 27.

While the polls are tightening, Clinton maintains a huge lead in the delegate contest. Clinton has more than 1700 delegates, including committed "super delegates" while Sanders is at just over 1,000. 2,383 delegates are needed to claim the Democratic nomination.

Read more: http://www.king5.com/news/politics/national/nbc-news-poll-bernie-sanders-closing-gap-on-clinton/108356836

[liberal N proud]

1. National polls are just popularity contests and do not necessarily correlate to election victory

Since primaries and elections are all compilation of state elections and delegates, this means very little.

[Akicita]

4. You're correct but this poll still shows more people turning away from Hillary and

towards Bernie. Momentum..

[hopeforchange2008]

5. Like this poll?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110781231

[SheenaR]

7. Lol

Well played

[Contrary1]

10. Of course not!

Whatever are you getting at?

[JDPriestly]

14. I don't think Trump will be the Republican candidate myself.

On KPFK yesterday, a Republican spokesperson said Trump would have to have 50.1 percent of the votes in the primaries and caucuses, meaning 50.1 percent of the delegates entering into the convention to be the nominee. If he doesn't then I gather that it is an open convention.

While Trump is ahead, because of the fact that there were other candidates who won delegates and votes in the primaries and caucuses it is unlikely that Trump can reach that marker of 50.1 percent of the votes.

I may have misunderstood what was said. (I was cooking dinner.) But I think that the Republican Party will do all it can to prevent Trump from winning the nomination.

I have thought from the beginning, and I continue to think that, unless some terrible scandal or other problem forgets it, the Republican nominee will be Ted Cruz with Kasich as the VP. That's my guess and I stand by it although I know it is not the generally accepted view and I could be extremely wrong.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

81. I really hope Trump's pride makes him run on ...

... a third party ticket.

[Javaman]

15. Oh Bern! LOL nt

[FrostyAusty]

16. HAHAHA

nice!

But remember polls only count when they are beneficial to her majesty..

[merrily]

18. In most polls, Sanders does better against Trump and other Republicans than does Clinton.

[hollowdweller]

87. Yeah but I'm not sure he has the time to close the gap against Clinton.

Seems the more he his heard, the more he is known, he goes up.

However not sure the election season is long enough for him to be all the places he needs to be to win.

Clinton is so much more well known and a LOT of people vote on name alone.

I think the reason he trumps Trump more than Clinton is there are some independents who will never vote for Clinton but don't like Trump.

[merrily]

88. Different issue. I replied to Post 5. The link in Post 5 goes to head to head polls,

not to anything about Sanders v. Clinton.

[Roland99]

29. That poll that had Sanders winning vs Trump by a LARGER margin?

yeah...that poll?

[840high]

52. Heehee -

[mpcamb]

54. Like most polls and articles, there's no mention of Bernie

Who'd do even better against Trump.

[cui bono]

70. Nice.

.

[basselope]

89. That's a silly poll.

Everyone knows Clinton can't win in November UNLESS the GOP splits its votes among more than 1 candidate.

[elleng]

20. Right. We won't pay attention to them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110785430

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511602645

[d_legendary1]

41. Especially those David Brock polls

They're the worst!

[cprise]

31. IOW, its the rigged party machinery that counts...eh?

Lets not bother ourselves about how well Bernie would do versus Trump, or by what margin, in the GE.

[liberal N proud]

66. It's a Survey Monkey poll

[Duckfan]

74. I was just going to point that out on survey monkey.

Thank you.

And the delegate number is wrong too.

Again, the M$M lumping super and pledged together. After Bernie's crushing wins over weekend, the real difference is about 220. With 96 delegates in WI alone, if he wins that state, it would put him down by 124.

When are they just going to be honest about the media and start calling it like it is-as is the case in China: State owned media. There it's called CCTV: Central China TV.

And BTW, this survey is BS based on the fact you cannot survey this many people ACCURATELY in such a short time frame-in normal survey models. I'm certain NBC does not have the staff to make 6500 phone calls for a political survey. I worked in TV long ago and we were lucky to make 5-600 calls with deadlines every day.

[eomer]

78. Agree with your larger points, but Democratic primaries are not winner-take-all.

You say that Bernie will get 96 delegates if he wins Wisconsin. Hopefully Bernie will do very well in Wisconsin but it's not likely he will get 100% of the pledged delegates. There is only one state so far that has gone 100% to one candidate and that is Bernie's win in Vermont. All the rest have been some split of pledged delegates. And you're including super delegates in that 96 number. There are only 86 pledged delegates in Wisconsin and Bernie can hope to win some percentage of them, not all. And then the other 10 delegates are supers so let's keep those 10 out of the count of the results that we report for the primaries.

And, by the way, the graphic in your sig line is also misleading. The total pledged delegates in Michigan is 130. Your graphic includes the 17 Michigan super delegates in the 147 number and makes it look like Bernie won all 147. The actual split of pledged delegates was 67 for Bernie and 63 for Hillary. So your graphic would be accurate if you changed "147" to "67".

Again, I agree with your main points but you've got some details really mixed up and should fix them in order to better make your case.

[Rebkeh]

2. Great!

Let's go, Bernie!



And Bernie supporters... you too.

[jalan48]

3. Time to ramp up the Bernie Bro, finger wagging, tone deaf, white guy memes.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

6. God forbid they should allow ANY good news about Bernie to stand.

[fbc]

8. Superdelegates haven't voted yet.

[thereismore]

9. Still with the super delegates, goddammit. I don't remember that being the case in 2008. nt

[obamanut2012]

12. It was hugely the case in 2008

[merrily]

19. In 2008, most were with Hillary initially, then switched to Obama.

However, in 2008, the DNC and others were not putting enormous pressure on the super delegates to back one candidate or the other, as has been so in 2016,

[thereismore]

21. Oh I know, I just don't remember the MSM keeping track of the supers like they are now.

Fuck the establishment.

[merrily]

49. Now, they are adding them to the pledge delegate count, to make the gap between Hillary's delegates

and Bernie's seem insurmountable.

Fuck the establishment.

Indeed.

[Major Hogwash]

68. That's because it wasn't the focus of the MSM in 2008.

But, because 2016 started out as a coronation promulgated by the Democratic party, the MSM is using everything they can to keep it right on schedule.

Mostly by ignoring Bernie's large rallies last fall, his primary victories, and also winning most of the caucuses.
In addition, the MSM didn't even report accurately that the primary results in some states like Iowa or Massachusetts resulted in a virtual tie.

Michigan threw the MSM for a loop, so they moved on quickly and didn't spend much time analyzing that state's primary result.

Why?

Because it didn't fit the narrative.

[Zen Democrat]

40. But they are never pledged like the primary/caucus delegates.

A wave of superdelegates left Hillary for Obama in the Spring on 2008.

[PatrynXX]

60. I joined DU in 2008

Not sure I would have known , 2008 probably was alot like it is now. Mud flying but less than 300 sorry that is no huge lead. she's still has over 1000 delegates to get to the magic number

[blackspade]

11. The M$M keeps using the super delegates to buff Clinton's numbers.

[onehandle]

13. Hillary is firmly ahead with or without superdelegates.

April will not be a good month for the 'Not Hillary' Party.

[JudyM]

42. Time will tell. Bernie's gaining in popularity as the media is just starting to genuinely Cover him.

[LiberalLovinLug]

17. If it was a fair fight Bernie would be the nominee

If Super Delegates had to hold off endorsements until the convention. Most of them voted for the Inevitable One before Bernie even became a factor. And if the head of the DNC was not working overtime for one of the candidates over the other. And if the MSM would have and would still, give Bernie as much coverage as his competitor...I have no doubt Bernie would be leading in all aspects.

So Hillary supporters: Would you really feel fine with Hillary as the nominee, if by the time of the convention Bernie was ahead 60% - 40% nationally for Democrats, and Bernie had won the majority of States in the later half of the primaries?

[Nye Bevan]

22. So the extra 2 million people who have voted for Hillary compared to Bernie

have been fooled by the MSM, or something?

[vkkv]

24. No, fooled by MSM and others that Hillary is the ONLY option for Dems. - eom

[Plucketeer]

26. Among other things

YEAH!

[LiberalLovinLug]

28. Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner!

But as I said, that is only one of the reasons that combined to give her such a head start.

Or do you deny the power of corporate networks to shape the narrative? After their cheerleading for the illegal invasion of Iraq I'd have thought there would have been no doubt of their powers of persuasion.

[Nye Bevan]

34. But people like you are too smart to be fooled by the MSM, right?

The problem is with those millions of voters who are not as smart as you?

[LiberalLovinLug]

39. Myself and the other Bernie supporters.

And it really doesn't take much smarts at all. Like I said, look at the Iraq War coverage. Or even the Hillary bashing, or at least allowing Republicans to foment false stories about the Clintons when they were in power last, or keeping Hillary's involvement in Benghazi murky without calling Republicans out on their lies.

You deny the MSM influence on the public?

[JudyM]

43. The youth vote is ample proof; they largely get their info online, unscreened by corporate media.

They are more informed about things the MSM titrates, such as Clinton's malfeasance and Bernie's genuinely well-thought-out platform ideas.

The silly meme about their liking Bernie because of "free stuff" is sadly, itself, uninformed.

[Nye Bevan]

45. "If you're not a socialist at 20 you have no heart" (nt)

[JudyM]

46. Demean people much?

Ever occur to you that Churchill was reflecting on older folks' increased interest in preserving their wealth as opposed to continuing to live according to their deeper ideals?

[socialist_n_TN]

57. Wasn't Churchill a Tory? The British equivalent to the Republicans?

nm

[Nye Bevan]

58. There is no record of Churchill saying this.

http://www.winstonchurchill.org/resources/quotations/135-quotes-falsely-attributed

[Duckfan]

76. I know I'm not fooled

[rhett o rick]

83. Propaganda works, that's why the billionaires spend so much on it. And the Clinton/Corp Media

gives Clinton free propaganda time. The young people don't pay much attention to the Clinton/Corp Media.

Social media is supporting Sanders.

[vkkv]

23. You are correct, sir. -eom

[SoapBox]

25. Yikes! She better hold some more mega-rallies!

Oh...that's right...she doesn't do any rallies.

Just mega disgusting, money sucking things...hope the Clooney's and Billionaire Venture Capitalist guy can help her out with that $350,000 per couple shindig that's coming up.

Maybe Babs Streisand can help out too, since she's chiming in now.

[AzDar]

27. If you don't want a President Trump or Cruz... Vote For Bernie.

[Zira]

33. Heck if you don't want foreign policy on par with Kissenger

[mountain grammy]

30. Super delegates cannot be counted at this point.

It's always been the delegates selected in the primary process that decides the nominee.. at least that's what I just heard a Hillary campaign official on the radio say just now. He works for the DNC and the Hillary campaign.. Fitz something.. damn I can't remember his name, but that's what he said.

[corkhead]

32. Bernie needs to get out of the race

Before he completely overtakes Hillary nationally.

I know national polls are meaningless, just like they were a year ago when he was 70 points behind.

[TIME TO PANIC]

35. +1 LOL!

Love your avatar, The Clash ran the gamut on that album!

[corkhead]

36. Yup, one of my all time faves.

[Dont call me Shirley]

37. Bernin down the House!

[drowefnp]

38. Is Bernie closing the gap in this poll?

Beware of reading into national polls at this stage.

Here is the latest Public policy poll:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_32916.pdf

[Bluenorthwest]

44. Every step forward by Bernie is met with a barrage of hateful bullshit from Camp Clinton and it's

great. They are losing it. It's an unwinding. They are overextended and rhetorically spent. They painted themselves into a tight little corner....

[elias7]

47. Agreed

At this point, there is considerably more snark and attitude coming from the HRC side in most threads, especially in the HRC group. Just ugly.

[drowefnp]

48. There is nothing more ugly

than the consistent barrage of hate, snark, attitude and bullying coming from BS supporters about on this site on a daily basis. It 's interesting that whenever someone points out a fact that does not fit the BS narrative, that is hate... but BS supporters spew righteous hate about Hillary Clinton /Clinton supporters all day long.. and that's ok. This site does not belong to BS supporters only. Diversity in opinions and a dose of truth is a good thing, even if you don't choose to face that reality.

[w4rma]

50. I still can't tell the Hillary supporters from a typical Republican. (nt)

[drowefnp]

55. It's crystal clear

that much of what has being written here by BS supporters about Hillary Clinton is verbatim what has been written and regurgitated on right wing websites and talk radio.

[chervilant]

51. Oh, goodie...

Another addition to my IL. Ta-Ta!

[elias7]

91. Both sides are spewing righteous hate

That's why the HRC side is getting labelled as smug and arrogant. They fail to acknowledge they sound just as bad, though IMO, probably worse. I sense your anger, but both sides are playing, and I've seen plenty of what you describe as hateful in your own posts.

[chervilant]

53. Ah, yes...

Those "committed" super delegates...

All the "committed super delegates" on the planet will NOT change the fact that Hi11ary is nowhere NEAR as popular as Bernie.

[SylviaD]

56. This poll is a mirage. HRC will win big in the upcoming states. nt

[PatrynXX]

59. Clinton maintains a huge lead in the delegate contest. less than 300 delegate difference is not a h

uge lead. Trump has a larger lead yet supposedly it's not enough. this is neck and neck there is no huge lead. total fiction

[Chicago1980]

64. It's pretty huge when many of the next primaries favor Clinton.

[Thespian2]

61. as usual,

NBC "news" reporters, like the leaders of DNC, are full of obnoxious gas...

[Nitram]

79. Good analysis, thespian, keep the incisive points coming!

And so's your mama!

[Thespian2]

84. ...

[Nitram]

86. I suppose your dots represent "the expulsion of an obnoxious gas?"

How very civil of you.

[Thespian2]

90. ...

Make of them whatever you want...

[pacalo]

62. He has worked so hard rallying, I'm glad to see a reward in the polls.

[Chicago1980]

63. It's the state-by-state that counts doing primaries.

[Sunlei]

65. I want Mrs. Clinton to Team-up with Senator Sanders. They will crush the flailing Republican Party.

[Major Hogwash]

67. The reason for this is because Hillary has a huge credibility gap.

Not only does Hillary tell outright lies, her surrogates tell outright lies about Bernie.

Within the next 3 weeks, I fully expect NBC News/KING to report that they are tied with each other nationally.

[pnwmom]

73. She is 250 delegates ahead of him. Being tied with each other

is not nearly enough for him to win.

[cui bono]

69. Which explains why they turned on the slime machine full blast after the weekend.

So transparent.

And the super delegates don't mean anything yet.

.

[cui bono]

71. Good thing that's not where she buys her pantsuits.

(I will now go to bed wondering if anyone will get that.)



.

[pnwmom]

72. The PPP poll of 3/24-26 puts her ahead by 18 points.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_32916.pdf

But even if she is "only" 6 points ahead of him, he's not doing well enough to win the nomination -- by a long shot.

[drowefnp]

75. A Non-Probability Poll-Meh!

Sigh, this is an online Freeper national poll with poor methodology..... but it is pushed as gospel to fit the "Sanders is winning and Clinton is losing" narrative. And if you dare point this out you will be vilified by Sanders supporters et. al. as mean, hateful, and snarky.

When you compare this to the PPP poll that came out today with a 54-36 (Clinton VS. Sanders), the race is not close. Mind you I don't think national polls means much in the middle of a primary contest.

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/3/29/monkeying-around-nbc-news-turns-into-tabloid-polling-firm

[Cryptoad]

80. ummmmm ,,,,,

a survey poll on an election that most of the voters have already cast their vote are cast adn counted,

and u really think it is relevant?

Thx , all I need to know

[lark]

82. Go, Bernie go!

Make that phuck Todd eat his words! Change things around and put people first, not the richest of the corporations. We trust and love you, Bernie.

[GreatGazoo]

85. Is this Hillary people switching or undecided going for Sanders?

There seems to be a problem with Clinton closing the deal as these states come up. She polls ahead of Sanders and then winds up in a tie or a big loss. What the heck happens in those last 2 weeks and so fast that the polls don't catch up?

[Marrah_G]

92. Superdelegates will start flipping soon

Clinton does not bring the necessary new and enthusiastic voters that Sanders does.