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Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:54 PM Mar 2016

Larry Sabato’s Crystal Ball portends a potential Democratic blowout presidential election

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Source: AL Today

University of Virginia political science professor Larry Sabato latest “Crystal Ball” prediction of the 2016 presidential election spells gloom for the Republican Party this November.

The longtime political analyst is predicting that if it’s a Hillary Clinton–Donald Trump matchup, it will be an electoral college blowout, 347-191.

Sabato’s Crystal Ball is a weekly online political newsletter and website that analyzes American politics. In the new column, written by Sabato, Kyle Kondik, and Geoffrey Skelley, the authors acknowledge that while it’s an “extra-early, ridiculously premature projection” that could change after the conventions and a possible third-party candidacy. However at the moment, the electoral map doesn’t look very competitive for the GOP going into November.

Nearly a year ago, Sabato put Florida into the “toss-up” column, but no longer.

Now the Sunshine State is being put into the same bucket of other swing states like Virginia, Ohio, New Hampshire, Nevada, Iowa and Colorado. The Sabado Crystal Ball has now moved all seven states from “toss-up” last May, to now “leaning Democratic.”

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wow,,, that must choke the Right wing Alabama Today to have to report this.
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Larry Sabato’s Crystal Ball portends a potential Democratic blowout presidential election (Original Post) Cryptoad Mar 2016 OP
Unless I'm mistaken, this is basically Obama 2008.... brooklynite Mar 2016 #1
I remember November 2008 and I think I will be just as happy in November 2016 upaloopa Mar 2016 #7
I don't believe Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #2
Ryan? MynameisBlarney Mar 2016 #5
I believe he did say that Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #6
Good point. MynameisBlarney Mar 2016 #9
He did, but... Dopers_Greed Mar 2016 #8
I thought RMoney MynameisBlarney Mar 2016 #10
He is almost begging for it Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #12
The old "Stop it - I love it" routine LyndaG Mar 2016 #11
his "disinterest" adds cred with the anti-government crowd 0rganism Mar 2016 #15
Most likely not Trump Cosmocat Mar 2016 #17
Fair enough Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #23
Why would Ted Cruz stand for that? geek tragedy Mar 2016 #19
Because Ted Cruz Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #22
his peers don't vote, the delegates do. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #24
Many of his peers are delegates Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #25
OY VEY! YOHABLO Mar 2016 #29
Mazel tov! Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #31
I think no matter who is nominated MynameisBlarney Mar 2016 #3
Never been a fan of his LyndaG Mar 2016 #4
Sabato is legit obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #13
A big GOP fight at the convention + half of GOP voters pissed off Jemmons Mar 2016 #14
IMO Cosmocat Mar 2016 #18
Nice!! Keep up the good work Dems! AllyCat Mar 2016 #16
I always liked this one from 1964 Botany Mar 2016 #20
Trump-Perry '16 houston16revival Mar 2016 #21
That's the combo of failure right there! Person 2713 Mar 2016 #26
You put Julian Castro on the ticket I think Texas is in serious play LynneSin Mar 2016 #28
Take a look at the South. And just guess what legislation turned that region red. YOHABLO Mar 2016 #30
Whomever wins, Hillary or Bernie, they need to pick great VP that will appeal to the voters LynneSin Mar 2016 #27
Locking... one_voice Mar 2016 #32
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
1. Unless I'm mistaken, this is basically Obama 2008....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:56 PM
Mar 2016

...with some vulnerabilities for further losses by the GOP in GA and AZ

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
7. I remember November 2008 and I think I will be just as happy in November 2016
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

Hopefully we have a Dem Congress as icing on the cake.

Then we rebuild the Supreme Court.

I really think we have the wind in our sails

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
2. I don't believe
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

...Trump will be the nominee.

My worth nothing opinion is it will be Ryan/Kasich.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
5. Ryan?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

Didn't he say he wasn't interested?

Or am I imagining things again?

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
6. I believe he did say that
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

....whether or not it holds at the convention

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
9. Good point.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:03 PM
Mar 2016

Only time will tell.

Dopers_Greed

(2,647 posts)
8. He did, but...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

He also wasn't interested in becoming speaker of the house.

I don't see any of the current Repug candidates getting the nomination though, so we'll see what happens.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
10. I thought RMoney
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:04 PM
Mar 2016

was clumsily dropping hints that he is interested.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
12. He is almost begging for it
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:09 PM
Mar 2016

....but I don't think it will happen.

LyndaG

(683 posts)
11. The old "Stop it - I love it" routine
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

He's certainly played that card before.

0rganism

(25,713 posts)
15. his "disinterest" adds cred with the anti-government crowd
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:23 PM
Mar 2016

"i am so disinterested in this donut, i barely recognize its existence, with its shiny sprinkles and delectable jelly filling. not interested at all, really. nice chocolate glaze there. completely uninterested, couldn't give less of a shit."

Cosmocat

(15,469 posts)
17. Most likely not Trump
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:06 PM
Mar 2016

but I don't think Ryan ...

1) He is speaker of the house, the second most powerful position in the country. He has a LONG career there and in the House ahead of him, so I am not sure he would give it up to MAYBE win POTUS this early on ...

2) Even if he would be so inclined, its a TOUGH sell for the electorate to bring someone in who did not go through the primaries at all, when there were over a dozen other candidates, did not win a single vote or delegate in this election, and nominate him. They are going to lose Trump supporters for decades if they do it, if they also jilt Cruz, they will lose his voters, too.

IMO, if they do this, they pretty much have to do with Cruz ...

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
23. Fair enough
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:21 PM
Mar 2016

...also no matter who they replace Trump with I think they will loose the Trump supporters. I don't see the majority of Trump supporters going for Cruz.

As I said in my first post....only my opinion.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. Why would Ted Cruz stand for that?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:11 PM
Mar 2016

A lot of Trump's delegates at the convention will be Ted Cruz fans, if it gets past a first ballot, second ballot will go to Cruz, not Kasich or another white knight figure

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
22. Because Ted Cruz
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:17 PM
Mar 2016

....has little support among his peers. The outside support may not be available to him.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
24. his peers don't vote, the delegates do.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:24 PM
Mar 2016

and he's been quietly organizing at the state convention level to make sure his people get appointed as delegates not only for himself, but for Trump.

So, on the first ballot they'll *probably* be bound to vote for Trump, but on the second ballot Trump will lose votes to Cruz.

Cruz acts like a crazy moron, but he's smart and cunning.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
25. Many of his peers are delegates
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:55 PM
Mar 2016

....and they do vote.

As I said in my first post...it is my worth nothing opinion. Seriously, if I were betting I'd take a long shot over even money.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
29. OY VEY!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:10 PM
Mar 2016

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
31. Mazel tov!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:27 PM
Mar 2016

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
3. I think no matter who is nominated
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

on either side, it's gonna be a big win for the Dems.

LyndaG

(683 posts)
4. Never been a fan of his
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

But, I hope he's right !!!!!

obamanut2012

(29,512 posts)
13. Sabato is legit
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:13 PM
Mar 2016

A bit of a tool IRL, but legit.

Jemmons

(711 posts)
14. A big GOP fight at the convention + half of GOP voters pissed off
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:19 PM
Mar 2016

Even if they force the issue and install someone like Ryan, it will be a bloodbath come november. Looking good!

Cosmocat

(15,469 posts)
18. IMO
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:07 PM
Mar 2016

it will be a longer term problem for them if they take it from Trump.

They stick with him, they take a beating this election ... then the completely deranged jackass wing gets back into the fold.

They jilt the Donald, they won't have 1/3 of their voters for decades.

AllyCat

(18,988 posts)
16. Nice!! Keep up the good work Dems!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

Get people registered and to the polls. Knock doors, call people, invite friends and family.

Botany

(77,857 posts)
20. I always liked this one from 1964
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:31 PM
Mar 2016


LBJ showed a tv spot w/Bill Miller's daughter ... stephanie miller ... and the rest is history

BTW w/Trump as the nominee they could lose Texas .... Hispanics and Women don't like Trump

houston16revival

(953 posts)
21. Trump-Perry '16
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:08 PM
Mar 2016

will be the greatest Tea Party ever

when we throw them overboard

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
26. That's the combo of failure right there!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:25 PM
Mar 2016

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
28. You put Julian Castro on the ticket I think Texas is in serious play
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:58 PM
Mar 2016

A Texan who is also Hispanic and parents of Mexican Immigrants. That would be a total boon for the Democrats plus the guy has all-around great political record and could one day make a great president!

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
30. Take a look at the South. And just guess what legislation turned that region red.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:13 PM
Mar 2016

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
27. Whomever wins, Hillary or Bernie, they need to pick great VP that will appeal to the voters
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:55 PM
Mar 2016

And no, I do not think it should be a Hillary/Bernie or Bernie/Hillary ticket. Both democratic candidates are older and I think both of them need a younger VP. Since both Hillary and Bernie have experience they can go young with their VP Candidate (Obama was weak on experience and needed an older statesman like Biden to balance his ticket).

My top #2 choices for VP would be either Julian Castro from Texas or Cory Booker from New Jersey.

I think one thing that hurt us in 2000 and 2004 was the boring VP Candidates on the Democratic Ticket. Neither Gore nor Kerry had that charisma to bring out the occasional voter. By picking Lieberman (Gore) and Edwards (Kerry), they didn't add anything to the ticket.

In this day and age you need at least one candidate on that ticket that will appeal to a cross-section of voters. Castro would appeal to the Hispanic Voters and Booker to the African-American voters. And both of those men are extremely qualified to be VP and possibly President one day. I'm not sure how Cory Booker's single status would play out as VP although he is a good-looking man so that might help too, but some might play against his lack of family.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
32. Locking...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:29 PM
Mar 2016

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