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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:55 PM Mar 2016

Clinton: 'I Am So Sick Of The Sanders Campaign Lying About Me'

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Politico



By NOLAN D. MCCASKILL 03/31/16 05:47 PM EDT

A frustrated Hillary Clinton forcefully said she was “so sick” of Bernie Sanders’ campaign alleging she accepts donations from the fossil fuel industry.

Following a campaign event in New York, the former secretary of state was approached by an environmental activist who pressed her about rejecting such contributions.

“I do not have — I have money from people who work for fossil fuel companies. I am so sick — I am so sick of the Sanders campaign lying about me,” an agitated Clinton said while angrily pointing her figure at the activist. “I’m sick of it.”

Thursday’s outburst wasn’t the first time Clinton has been accused of accepting money from the fossil fuel industry. After a campaign event late last year in Iowa, Steve Patterson, a leader of a local climate change group in Iowa, asked Clinton if she would join Sanders and Martin O’Malley and commit to rejecting money from the fossil fuel industry.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-campaign-lies-221434#ixzz44WJYm1q7
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Clinton: 'I Am So Sick Of The Sanders Campaign Lying About Me' (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2016 OP
Poor delicate flower! beerandjesus Mar 2016 #1
Another Clinton Wags Their Finger...Sigh billhicks76 Mar 2016 #124
She looks like she's ready to crack. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #2
The General? Who is that? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #6
Seriously? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #12
I have no clue, Attorney General? Surely not Trump, surely this person isnt implying Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #21
General election TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #24
So it is an implication that TRUMP will out perform her. Disgusting thing to read here. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #25
Who said it will be Trump? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #27
Worse, then you are all saying the GOP is better, stronger than Hillary. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #30
Aw, for Chrissakes....... TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #41
You never give up, do you. ATTACK Hillary is all some do it seems. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #55
She hasn't seen anything... TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #65
Seriously, don't even try to engage in a logical conversation. alcina Mar 2016 #79
indeed, this fellow is hillarious stupidicus Mar 2016 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author retrowire Mar 2016 #43
Uh, seriously? MisterFred Mar 2016 #47
That sure ISN"T the way I read it. passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #37
Thank you, but I don't think TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #48
you sure do seem to read what you want into that 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #57
Well, in my defense, I do read hundreds of times a day here at DU from dozens and dozens Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #61
maybe you should just start believing the truth. 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #67
The truth? What is that, are we better off with President Trump? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #72
No, President Sanders 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #78
exactly! thank you. n/t wildbilln864 Mar 2016 #122
I'd say you just infer whatever the fuck you want to wail about into whatever people say. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #81
Reading hundreds of negative comments a day here can not be good for FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #103
You just won the gold medal for the Olympic conclusion triple jump; conclude, assert & complain FTW! xocet Mar 2016 #71
I am blushing, but trust me it wasnt nearly that hard. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #75
No doubt. You won the event almost unconsciously. n/t xocet Mar 2016 #83
You are assuming that the Republican candidate will be Trump. That is not something that JDPriestly Mar 2016 #131
Comey. 840high Mar 2016 #130
"millions in contributions have no EFFECT on me! I'm the VICTIM! I'm the STRONG MisterP Mar 2016 #3
+1000 Zira Mar 2016 #50
This isn't going to tweet (end) well for her. Kittycat Mar 2016 #97
That's what I don't understand ...... there are SO MANY examples of her benefiting monetarily polly7 Mar 2016 #104
Apparantly so, yes. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #115
She does appear to believe that she is more clever than she actually is. nt GoneFishin Mar 2016 #128
This is correct and constructive criticism and confrontation. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #4
That goes both ways. David Brock wouldn't know the truth The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #5
We're pretty sick of Hills and Her Campaign lying about Bernie too. peacebird Mar 2016 #7
Bernie uses insinuation and innuendo redstateblues Mar 2016 #13
You mean the anointed one with all the experience? Phlem Mar 2016 #26
No he uses facts. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #82
links? ish of the hammer Mar 2016 #93
Oh Please -if he bluntly told the truth he'd be criticized for "personal attacks" nt LiberalElite Mar 2016 #129
Post removed. I watched the video. I don't like her but the media did take this one out of context Zira Mar 2016 #39
"Don't you think she looks.... tired?" mac56 Mar 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2016 #20
The Christmas invasion! mac56 Mar 2016 #29
Good old Harriet Jones LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2016 #90
Perfect n/t Pakhet Mar 2016 #64
Give her a break. She has to stay up every night answering to corrupt corporations Zira Mar 2016 #111
Uh-oh TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #9
Good for her. DU leads the online smear campaign. redstateblues Mar 2016 #10
I figured out the difference between Hillary and Republicans beerandjesus Mar 2016 #14
Great synopsis. qucumbbruce Mar 2016 #95
yeah, all those lies about huge speaking fees from Goldman Sachs... yurbud Mar 2016 #53
Amen. Itchinjim Mar 2016 #105
What's a smear, reporting facts? nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #106
Did you contribute to Hillary's campaign? Who do you work for? upaloopa Mar 2016 #11
While Sanders only became a Democrat to take advantage of an infrastructure financed by Trust Buster Mar 2016 #15
Wah. Waaaah. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. jalan48 Mar 2016 #16
Looks like she's pivoting back toward the primaries again Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #17
Here are her detailed donations from Open Secrets (for her career) Liberty Belle Mar 2016 #18
She has recently stopped cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #46
thanks for that info FreedomRain Mar 2016 #91
she just stopped taking direct contributions questionseverything Mar 2016 #119
But securities, insurance, lobbyists and law firms TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #70
“I do not have — I have..." Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #19
I have not accepted any contributions from the fossil fuel industries "this week" LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #54
I don't like her Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #22
Yes... murielm99 Mar 2016 #52
That's what you took from that? mac56 Mar 2016 #84
I also don't like Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #102
Direct or indirect, a contribution is a contribution. DrBulldog Mar 2016 #23
The key unasked question... FBaggins Mar 2016 #28
Shots fired runaway hero Mar 2016 #31
First class projection. Scuba Mar 2016 #32
Quick...someone call the waahmbulance. roamer65 Mar 2016 #33
'Cause her pantsuit is on FIRE! SoapBox Mar 2016 #49
Oh that story xloadiex Mar 2016 #34
How totally and utterly disingenuous. bjo59 Mar 2016 #35
She is really NOT looking like presidential material. Zira Mar 2016 #36
It's not a lie SheenaR Mar 2016 #38
She thinks she's charming and we're stupid dorkzilla Mar 2016 #98
Too bad! So sad! NOT! SoapBox Mar 2016 #40
Bernie Sanders is not lying Hillary you hve accepted funds from both INdemo Mar 2016 #42
You claim she does but Fact check says she does not accept from the industry nor from the PAC's riversedge Mar 2016 #73
Well Goldwater Girl what the heck do you want? tartan2 Mar 2016 #44
Well, if it's too hot in the kitchen... paleotn Mar 2016 #45
... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #51
One can almost hear the following: "Leave my bundlers (who are fossil fuel lobbyists) alone!" xocet Mar 2016 #56
instead of saying she's sick of it, she could list all the times she's stood up to fossil fuel indu yurbud Mar 2016 #58
Didn't she mean "I am so tired of lying about Bernie Sanders!" revbones Mar 2016 #59
LOL!!! Excellent! Herman4747 Mar 2016 #109
those who dish it out the most take it the worst, and project when feeling like a victim stupidicus Mar 2016 #60
Hillary is losing it....BIG TIME. bvar22 Mar 2016 #62
Says the one who is lying every time she speaks. Project much Hillary? cui bono Mar 2016 #63
Sheesh...is this any kind of "tone" for a President? SoapBox Mar 2016 #66
I think everyone should make more myths. fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #68
People who lie assume everyone else does. Duval Mar 2016 #69
I guess her love for coal is just because of how cuddly and sweet-smelling it is n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #74
And pushing fracking around the world despite thousands of protesters polly7 Mar 2016 #86
She has a clever lie about fracking: "It reduces CO2" arcane1 Mar 2016 #92
Yep, and I doubt she even cares, unless someone questions her on it. polly7 Mar 2016 #100
Meanwhile, Bernie speaks in such gentle, dulcet tones. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #76
I am sick of Sander's supporters wisteria Mar 2016 #77
"allow his supporters"? arcane1 Mar 2016 #94
Can you be specific. Pick an issue she has been "smeared" on? Zira Mar 2016 #96
Such as??? nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #101
Me too. 6000eliot Mar 2016 #107
He never signed my permission slip. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #121
the photo in the OP is not in the link you posted. Instead there is a video-she was in the rope lin riversedge Mar 2016 #85
They had the photo up noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #110
Correct. If you'd rather have the video, here it is. (Warning: it does NOT make Hillary look good) FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #113
Pack of Lies: Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #87
That's some epic projection, Hillary. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #88
I suppose she's tired of Greenpeace lying about her as well EndElectoral Mar 2016 #89
Call the WAAAAHMBULANCE! CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #99
and why would this be LBN? it is clearly GD:Primaries still_one Mar 2016 #108
Agreed. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #114
Breaking primary news is not prohibited from LBN the last I knew. Purveyor Mar 2016 #116
I am not alerting it, I just disagree with your assessment as LBN still_one Mar 2016 #123
Well it did just happen this afternoon and it is a trending topic Purveyor Mar 2016 #126
I worked for the KOCH Brothers and gave Hillary a money contribution! fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #112
Hillary, the reason for your frustration is simple: desmiller Mar 2016 #117
Here she goes franannjo Mar 2016 #118
Seems she should be upset with Greenpeace and Mother Jones, not Sanders EndElectoral Mar 2016 #120
Hillary Clinton's campaign started with the lies. fbc Mar 2016 #125
Hey, Hillary: document a lie, liar. I dare you to try. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #127
Locking after a review by forum hosts Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #132

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
1. Poor delicate flower!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
124. Another Clinton Wags Their Finger...Sigh
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:26 PM
Mar 2016

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
2. She looks like she's ready to crack.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016

Just wait for the general, Mrs. Rodham-CLinton. You really have no clue how bad it will get.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
6. The General? Who is that?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
12. Seriously?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:00 PM
Mar 2016

General Mills?

General Motors?

General Electric?

Hint: It ain't one of them.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
21. I have no clue, Attorney General? Surely not Trump, surely this person isnt implying
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:04 PM
Mar 2016

that in a debate she will lose to Trump?

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
24. General election
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016

The one in November.

If she thinks the sledding it tough now, she ain't seen nothin' yet. The (R)s are salivating at the prospect of her being the nominee.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
25. So it is an implication that TRUMP will out perform her. Disgusting thing to read here.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:08 PM
Mar 2016

Promoting and supporting the GOP right here in river city.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
27. Who said it will be Trump?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:10 PM
Mar 2016

Any candidate on the other side will be out for the jugular.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
30. Worse, then you are all saying the GOP is better, stronger than Hillary.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:11 PM
Mar 2016

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
41. Aw, for Chrissakes.......
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:18 PM
Mar 2016

Listen up now.

If Hillary thinks Sanders and his supporters are being tough on her now, just wait until the republicans unleash their jackals. This isn't going to get easier for her.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
55. You never give up, do you. ATTACK Hillary is all some do it seems.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:24 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton has withstood a nonstop attack from an organized rightwing group for decades.

She is tougher than most ten people here combined.

Sheesh, I thought you knew that.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
65. She hasn't seen anything...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:28 PM
Mar 2016

....compared to what the 2016 GOP has in store, if she wins the nomination.

This stuff right now is at little-league level, by comparison.

alcina

(602 posts)
79. Seriously, don't even try to engage in a logical conversation.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:31 PM
Mar 2016

Lately, it's looking more and more like Microsoft has loosed Tay on DU....

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
80. indeed, this fellow is hillarious
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

after all the BS about how BS can't be supported because he's gonna crumble under the assault of rightwingers, they now deny it's possible for Hillary of Arc despite the near breakdown noted here.

Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #30)

MisterFred

(525 posts)
47. Uh, seriously?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

Of course not.

We're all saying that if she thinks Sanders is lying & it's getting under her skin, she apparently has amnesia and can't remember how much Republicans lie.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
37. That sure ISN"T the way I read it.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:16 PM
Mar 2016

To me, it says that the general election will get very nasty. Not indicating who will win or not. And we all know the Republicans WILL GET NASTY, no matter whom they are campaigning against. If she can't take the heat from Sanders, how will she handle the heat from the Republicans?




TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
48. Thank you, but I don't think
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

it will sink in.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
57. you sure do seem to read what you want into that
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:25 PM
Mar 2016

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
61. Well, in my defense, I do read hundreds of times a day here at DU from dozens and dozens
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:26 PM
Mar 2016

of people about how horrible Hillary is, so there is some precedent.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
67. maybe you should just start believing the truth.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:29 PM
Mar 2016

instead of making your own

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
72. The truth? What is that, are we better off with President Trump?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:30 PM
Mar 2016
 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
78. No, President Sanders
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:31 PM
Mar 2016

for the people, not just the rich.

 

wildbilln864

(13,382 posts)
122. exactly! thank you. n/t
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
81. I'd say you just infer whatever the fuck you want to wail about into whatever people say.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

It's your trip, it's the material you do.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,597 posts)
103. Reading hundreds of negative comments a day here can not be good for
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:46 PM
Mar 2016

your health. If I were your doctor I'd say cut back, or take a break, get some rest...

Or, as Jackie sez:

xocet

(4,431 posts)
71. You just won the gold medal for the Olympic conclusion triple jump; conclude, assert & complain FTW!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:30 PM
Mar 2016

n/t

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
75. I am blushing, but trust me it wasnt nearly that hard.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:31 PM
Mar 2016

xocet

(4,431 posts)
83. No doubt. You won the event almost unconsciously. n/t
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:33 PM
Mar 2016

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
131. You are assuming that the Republican candidate will be Trump. That is not something that
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:37 PM
Mar 2016

should be assumed.

He has to have 50.1% of the delegates to win the nomination. How likely is that? I don't think it is very likely.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
130. Comey.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:33 PM
Mar 2016

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
3. "millions in contributions have no EFFECT on me! I'm the VICTIM! I'm the STRONG
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016

candidate! I don't HAFTA debate that meanie!"

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
50. +1000
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
97. This isn't going to tweet (end) well for her.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:42 PM
Mar 2016


I guess that depends what is-is, when it comes to defining a donation in the voters eyes.

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/09/hillary-clinton-wants-to-regulate-fracking-but-still-accepts-a-lot-of-fracking-money/
On Wednesday, the Clinton campaign was to hold a $575-a-head fundraising lunch at a Ritz-Carlton Hotel on the Northern California coast hosted by Alisa Wood, a partner at the international private equity firm Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. (KKR).

In 2009, KKR began heavily investing in fracking, purchasing large shares of three North American oil and gas companies, and selling two of them for billions in profits. The third was hit hard by plummeting gas prices, and declared bankruptcy last year. But KKR was not deterred, and still owns a large portfolio of small fossil fuel companies, at least two of which — Cinco Industries and Comstock Resources — use fracking.

-snip-

Many of Clinton’s largest fundraisers are lobbyists for oil and gas corporations. Some of her largest contribution bundlers are lobbyists representing Chevron, Cheniere Energy, and TransCanada — all companies that use fracking.

Prior to announcing her candidacy, Clinton also received $990,000 for speeches she made to the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce — a heavy investor in TransCanada and the Keystone XL pipeline.



And more from down below:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel_us_55a8335ee4b04740a3df86c5


polly7

(20,582 posts)
104. That's what I don't understand ...... there are SO MANY examples of her benefiting monetarily
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:48 PM
Mar 2016

from fossil fuel companies, does she think people are stupid?

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
115. Apparantly so, yes.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:06 PM
Mar 2016

She appears to believe reality should conform to whatever she says it should be.

Of course, in that direction lies madness.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
128. She does appear to believe that she is more clever than she actually is. nt
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:31 PM
Mar 2016

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
4. This is correct and constructive criticism and confrontation.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016

Make it so she simply cant AFFORD their money.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,409 posts)
5. That goes both ways. David Brock wouldn't know the truth
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016

if it bit him on the butt.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
7. We're pretty sick of Hills and Her Campaign lying about Bernie too.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016

Funny thing about the "lies" tho, what Bernie says are not lies, what Hillarys campaign an surrogates say ARE lies.
Bernie tells the truth about her record and gets attacked by Hills as an abusive husband.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
13. Bernie uses insinuation and innuendo
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:00 PM
Mar 2016

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
26. You mean the anointed one with all the experience?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:08 PM
Mar 2016

polly7

(20,582 posts)
82. No he uses facts. nt.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:33 PM
Mar 2016

ish of the hammer

(444 posts)
93. links?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:40 PM
Mar 2016

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
129. Oh Please -if he bluntly told the truth he'd be criticized for "personal attacks" nt
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:33 PM
Mar 2016
 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
39. Post removed. I watched the video. I don't like her but the media did take this one out of context
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:17 PM
Mar 2016

to make it look like an outburst.

BTW, she also lied while she walked away from that person brining up the fossil fuels. But she didn't have an "outburst"
she simply lied about fossil fuels then lied about the Sanders campaign lying about her.

mac56

(17,820 posts)
8. "Don't you think she looks.... tired?"
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016

Response to mac56 (Reply #8)

mac56

(17,820 posts)
29. The Christmas invasion!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:11 PM
Mar 2016
90. Good old Harriet Jones
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:38 PM
Mar 2016

Pakhet

(520 posts)
64. Perfect n/t
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:27 PM
Mar 2016
 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
111. Give her a break. She has to stay up every night answering to corrupt corporations
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:55 PM
Mar 2016

assuring them she will win and they can make billions and not be held accountable for past fraud.

Plus, she has to be on chronic defense because she's lying so badly.

And, she has to constantly act like a liberal when she is the opposite. Imagine having to run against her own record - which is what she is doing.

And she may get indicted while campaigning.

Add all that up with having to fight someone who actually has the past record, and who will try to reign in Wall Street and do the will of the people and who is telling the truth, and there you go. Too much to handle.

And, she's losing.

I think the corruption is what's doing her in. The stress is getting to her because it's falling apart.



TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
9. Uh-oh
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
10. Good for her. DU leads the online smear campaign.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:59 PM
Mar 2016

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
14. I figured out the difference between Hillary and Republicans
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:02 PM
Mar 2016

Republicans claim lies are the truth.
Hillary claims the truth is a lie.


And then her supporters claim the truth is a "smear campaign"



qucumbbruce

(5 posts)
95. Great synopsis.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:42 PM
Mar 2016

Enjoyed it!

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
53. yeah, all those lies about huge speaking fees from Goldman Sachs...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:23 PM
Mar 2016

She did those pro bono.

Itchinjim

(3,182 posts)
105. Amen.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

polly7

(20,582 posts)
106. What's a smear, reporting facts? nt.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
11. Did you contribute to Hillary's campaign? Who do you work for?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:00 PM
Mar 2016

I work for county government and contribute to Hillary's campaign. Using Bernie's logic Hillary takes money from county government.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
15. While Sanders only became a Democrat to take advantage of an infrastructure financed by
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:02 PM
Mar 2016

the same sources. What hypocrisy.

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
16. Wah. Waaaah. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:02 PM
Mar 2016

Tom Rinaldo

(23,187 posts)
17. Looks like she's pivoting back toward the primaries again
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:03 PM
Mar 2016

Was it just a week ago that she was trying not to mention her primary opponent?

Liberty Belle

(9,706 posts)
18. Here are her detailed donations from Open Secrets (for her career)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:04 PM
Mar 2016
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00000019&type=I

It includes $2.3 million from those in the energy and natural resource industries but it is unclear how much of that may be fossil fuels vs. clean energy.

She has taken far more money from other interests, including $34 million from law firms and lawyers, nearly $15 million from securities and investments (ie Wall St), $3 million from commercial banks and about $3 million from lobbyists. There are also some more positive donor categories such as $10 million from groups on women's issues.

cannabis_flower

(3,930 posts)
46. She has recently stopped
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

taking money from lobbying firms for private prisons after it became an issue.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/hillary-clinton-private-prisons_us_562a3e3ee4b0ec0a389418ec

FreedomRain

(413 posts)
91. thanks for that info
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:39 PM
Mar 2016

and, seriously, good for her!

questionseverything

(11,790 posts)
119. she just stopped taking direct contributions
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:12 PM
Mar 2016

she still takes private for profit prison money with her superpac

TexasBushwhacker

(21,195 posts)
70. But securities, insurance, lobbyists and law firms
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:30 PM
Mar 2016

can be involved in fossil fuels as well. For example, speculation has a huge effect on the price of oil. Does Wall Street want more regulations or a tax on such speculation? I don't think so.

If I'm an attorney who represents the fossil fuel industry, I'm going to donate to the candidate who is least likely to strengthen regulations, not the one that opposes fracking and the Keystone Pipeline.

Everything is interconnected.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
19. “I do not have — I have..."
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:04 PM
Mar 2016

is quintessentially Hillary Clinton: her first instinct is to lie (is she 1st cousins with The Drumpf?), then think better of it because, hey, its in the public record.

LiberalArkie

(19,754 posts)
54. I have not accepted any contributions from the fossil fuel industries "this week"
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:24 PM
Mar 2016

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
22. I don't like her
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:05 PM
Mar 2016

....tone.

murielm99

(32,970 posts)
52. Yes...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mar 2016

Women always need to watch their TONE.

mac56

(17,820 posts)
84. That's what you took from that?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016

Making it into a slam against women?



Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
102. I also don't like
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:46 PM
Mar 2016

...her lying.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
23. Direct or indirect, a contribution is a contribution.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:06 PM
Mar 2016

FBaggins

(28,705 posts)
28. The key unasked question...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:10 PM
Mar 2016

Are there two vast conspiracies, or is it an even vaster right AND left wing conspiracy?

runaway hero

(835 posts)
31. Shots fired
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:12 PM
Mar 2016

I wish Hillary held back less!

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
32. First class projection.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:13 PM
Mar 2016

She does seem like she's coming apart at the seams. The pressure must be enormous on her right now.

roamer65

(37,945 posts)
33. Quick...someone call the waahmbulance.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:13 PM
Mar 2016

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
49. 'Cause her pantsuit is on FIRE!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
35. How totally and utterly disingenuous.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:14 PM
Mar 2016

Your record is out there, Hillary, for anyone to easily research on his or her own. You must be living in one incredible bubble of yes-men, syncophants and people
who are afraid of you.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
36. She is really NOT looking like presidential material.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:14 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:49 PM - Edit history (1)

And, I'm a woman. She blatantly lied twice when confronted with the truth about fossil fuels, then said she couldn't "take it" which was only going to be used against her. I believe it would also be used against a man if either Cruz or Trump said it.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
38. It's not a lie
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:16 PM
Mar 2016

If there is a direct paper trail.

It's a smart campaign tactic and makes for a good headline, but it's another falsehood. She could easily explain why those donations came and who those people are in relation to her governing. Instead, it's the Sanders campaign's fault.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
98. She thinks she's charming and we're stupid
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:43 PM
Mar 2016

She's going to have a day of reckoning when she realizes that the only reason people don't trust and/or like her is...her.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
40. Too bad! So sad! NOT!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:18 PM
Mar 2016

Hey Hill...hows about those speech transcripts?

And about those Clooney Fundraisers?

Oh and Chels trotting off to London to beg for bucks?

What about your idol, Kissenger?

...and on, and on, and on, and on.

I wouldn't TRUST you to take out my garbage.

No...More...Clintons...EVER!

INdemo

(7,024 posts)
42. Bernie Sanders is not lying Hillary you hve accepted funds from both
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

the Industry and individuals and lobbyists that have worked for the Oil and Gas Industry.

I suppose you haven't accepted funding from Goldman Sachs Right?

We know Bill Clinton and others in the campaign read DU so here goes Bill...

When Hillary and Bill Clinton deny accepting donations from a particular source,given their history when they deny it, well is probably a fact they do accept these contributions from the Fossil Fuel Industry and Big Oil.

Its you Hillary Clinton that is lying..Wow Hillary looks pissed and thats funny....

Ok Hillary fans here is some link you wont check out...
http://www.infowars.com/video-hillary-on-big-oil-contributions-they-mustve-put-it-in-the-wrong-envelope/

http://www.infowars.com/laughable-hillary-clinton-claims-she-doesnt-know-if-shes-ever-taken-money-from-big-oil/

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/clinton-and-fossil-fuel-money/



Knowing the History of Hillary fans and follwing links..well they never do but here they are to prove that Hillary is in fact lying.

riversedge

(80,719 posts)
73. You claim she does but Fact check says she does not accept from the industry nor from the PAC's
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:30 PM
Mar 2016


Yes, employees from the companies are allowed. Where do you get your information from.?


From the up dated link in the OP:

......Clinton said she was unsure she had ever accepted money from the industry, noting that she isn’t “exactly one of their favorites.” But Patterson insisted she had.

“Have I? OK, well, I’ll check on that,” she responded. “They certainly haven’t made much of an impression on me if I don’t even know it.”

According to a fact check, it is true that Clinton's campaign hasn’t accepted donations directly from the industry — doing so would violate campaign law — and she hadn’t received contributions from PACs affiliated with the industry, either. But she has received more than $330,000 from oil and gas industry employees.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-campaign-lies-221434#ixzz44WQJ3D7p
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

tartan2

(314 posts)
44. Well Goldwater Girl what the heck do you want?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

Besides your cake and eating too!!!! Your desperation is showing Goldie girl! For me to believe you, you will have to proof it! I honestly don't think you can!

paleotn

(22,177 posts)
45. Well, if it's too hot in the kitchen...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

you know the rest.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
51. ...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mar 2016

xocet

(4,431 posts)
56. One can almost hear the following: "Leave my bundlers (who are fossil fuel lobbyists) alone!"
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:25 PM
Mar 2016
Hillary Clinton’s Biggest Campaign Bundlers Are Fossil Fuel Lobbyists
Clinton’s top campaign financiers are linked to Big Oil, natural gas and the Keystone pipeline.
07/17/2015 09:22 am ET | Updated Jul 17, 2015
Paul Blumenthal, Kate Sheppard

WASHINGTON — Nearly all of the lobbyists bundling contributions for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s campaign have at one time or another worked for the fossil fuel industry.

A list of 40 registered lobbyists that the Clinton camp disclosed to the Federal Election Commission on Wednesday revealed a number of Democratic Party lobbyists who have worked against regulations to curb climate change, advocated for offshore drilling, or sought government approval for natural gas exports.

Clinton, the former secretary of state, has called climate change the most “consequential, urgent, sweeping collection of challenges we face as a nation and a world” and says it would be a major focus of her administration if she wins the White House. But having so many supporters who have sold their services to fossil fuel companies may complicate her emphasis on pro-environment policies.

Scott Parven and Brian Pomper, lobbyists at Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, have been registered to lobby for the Southern California-based oil giant Chevron since 2006, with contracts totaling more than $3 million. The two bundled Clinton contributions of $24,700 and $29,700, respectively. They have helped Chevron over the years resist efforts to eliminate oil and gas tax breaks and to impose regulations to reduce carbon emissions.

...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel_us_55a8335ee4b04740a3df86c5?utm_hp_ref=climate-change

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
58. instead of saying she's sick of it, she could list all the times she's stood up to fossil fuel indu
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:25 PM
Mar 2016

As senator and especially secretary of state.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
59. Didn't she mean "I am so tired of lying about Bernie Sanders!"
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:26 PM
Mar 2016

and then should could follow it up with "If only he had done something corrupt like I have, then I wouldn't have to lie as much..."

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
109. LOL!!! Excellent!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:54 PM
Mar 2016
 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
60. those who dish it out the most take it the worst, and project when feeling like a victim
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:26 PM
Mar 2016

that racist, sexist, etc, Sanders better watch out before she sics the big dawg on his scrawny ass...lol

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
62. Hillary is losing it....BIG TIME.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:26 PM
Mar 2016

My mother told me to look away when people are embarrassing themselves in public,
but I can't look away from this spectacular Hillary Meltdown.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
63. Says the one who is lying every time she speaks. Project much Hillary?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:27 PM
Mar 2016

What a foul human being she is.

.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
66. Sheesh...is this any kind of "tone" for a President?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:29 PM
Mar 2016

Not very Presidential...Best "give it up" and "get in line" Hill!

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
68. I think everyone should make more myths.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:29 PM
Mar 2016

BROOKINGS
Jonathan Rothwell | March 25, 2016 9:50am

Make elites compete: Why the 1% earn so much and what to do about it

“…Myth 1: Capital vs. labor share

In his recent and otherwise valuable book, Saving Capitalism: For the Many, not the Few, Robert Reich claims that the share of income going to workers has fallen from 50 percent in 1960 to 42 percent in 2012. Meanwhile, corporate profits have risen. In short: trillions of dollars have gone to capitalists instead of workers. The sensible policy responses, as Reich and others have stressed, are to increase taxes on corporate income and capital gains, and widen capital ownership.

These might be a good idea for other reasons, but the basic facts currently being used to justify them are wrong. Between 1980 and 2014, corporate profits actually represented a lower share of GDP (4.9 percent) than between 1950 and 1979 (5.4 percent)….”

~~
“…Myth 2: Super skills lead to super riches

It is certainly true that rising relative returns to education have driven up inequality. But as I have written earlier, this is true among the bottom 99 percent. There is no evidence to support the idea that the top 1 percent consists mostly of people of “exceptional talent.” In fact, there is quite a bit of evidence to the contrary….”

~~
“…Myth 3: Technology

Some entrepreneurs grow enormously rich as a result of founding a company with an innovative product. This applies to Mark Zuckerberg, as well as to Bill Gates and other mega-stars of the tech sector. Venture capitalist Paul Graham has recently written about this as an important aspect of inequality, and he’s correct. It is. But again, it has little to do with the rise of the 1 percent….”

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/social-mobility-memos/posts/2016/03/25-make-elites-compete-why-one-percent-earn-so-much-rothwell

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
69. People who lie assume everyone else does.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:29 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders doesn't lie. She really dislikes the facts, it seems.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
74. I guess her love for coal is just because of how cuddly and sweet-smelling it is n/t
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:30 PM
Mar 2016

polly7

(20,582 posts)
86. And pushing fracking around the world despite thousands of protesters
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:35 PM
Mar 2016

in European nations against it - those chemicals and damage to the groundwater and environment are like warm cinnamon buns on a stormy winter day.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
92. She has a clever lie about fracking: "It reduces CO2"
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:40 PM
Mar 2016

While failing to mention both the water pollution, and the fact that leaking methane is an even worse greenhouse gas than CO2.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
100. Yep, and I doubt she even cares, unless someone questions her on it.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:44 PM
Mar 2016

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
76. Meanwhile, Bernie speaks in such gentle, dulcet tones.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:31 PM
Mar 2016
 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
77. I am sick of Sander's supporters
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:31 PM
Mar 2016

Smearing Clinton too. I have never seen another Democrat allow his supporters to smear and lie about the other Democrat opponent, using Republican propaganda and lies.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
94. "allow his supporters"?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:41 PM
Mar 2016

Alas, Bernie has never personally told me what I can and cannot say. But feel free to dishonestly blame him for the actions of others

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
96. Can you be specific. Pick an issue she has been "smeared" on?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:42 PM
Mar 2016

polly7

(20,582 posts)
101. Such as??? nt.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
107. Me too.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:52 PM
Mar 2016

I'm trashing every right-wing attack thread they post without even looking at them. I'm also putting the worst ones on ignore.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
121. He never signed my permission slip.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:16 PM
Mar 2016

riversedge

(80,719 posts)
85. the photo in the OP is not in the link you posted. Instead there is a video-she was in the rope lin
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:35 PM
Mar 2016

after the event -as stated in the Politico article. She is NOT at the podium as the photo you posted depicts.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-campaign-lies-221434

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
110. They had the photo up
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:54 PM
Mar 2016

before they got the video. They replaced the photo with the video.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,597 posts)
113. Correct. If you'd rather have the video, here it is. (Warning: it does NOT make Hillary look good)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:00 PM
Mar 2016
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
87. Pack of Lies:
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:35 PM
Mar 2016

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
88. That's some epic projection, Hillary.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:35 PM
Mar 2016

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
89. I suppose she's tired of Greenpeace lying about her as well
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:37 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaign-updates/hillary-clintons-connection-oil-gas-industry/

Hillary Clinton’s Connection to the Oil and Gas Industry

Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Super PAC supporting her have received more than $4.5 million from the fossil fuel industry.

Research compiled by Greenpeace USA

Contact: Perry Wheeler, perry.wheeler@greenpeace.org

Hillary Clinton’s campaign has been backed by the fossil fuel industry in a number of ways.

First there are the direct contributions from people working for fossil fuel companies to Hillary Clinton’s campaign committee. According to the most recent filings, the committee has received $309,107 (as of 3/21/16; source: Center for Responsive Politics) from such donors

Next are the fossil fuel lobbyists, many of whom have also bundled contributions. These donations also flow to Hillary Clinton’s campaign committee. Greenpeace has tracked $1,259,280 in bundled and direct donations from lobbyists currently registered as lobbying for the fossil fuel industry. This number excludes donations from lobbyists who are employed directly by a fossil fuel companies, as those donations would have been included in the previous number.

Last are contributions from fossil fuel interests to Super PACs supporting Hillary Clinton. Greenpeace has found $3,250,000 in donations from large donors connected to the fossil fuel industry to Priorities Action USA, a Super PAC supporting Secretary Clinton’s campaign.

All told, the campaign to elect Hillary Clinton for president in 2016 has received more than $4.5 million from lobbyists, bundlers, and large donors connected the fossil fuel industry.

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
99. Call the WAAAAHMBULANCE!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:44 PM
Mar 2016
 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
108. and why would this be LBN? it is clearly GD:Primaries
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:54 PM
Mar 2016

FailureToCommunicate

(14,597 posts)
114. Agreed.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:02 PM
Mar 2016
 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
116. Breaking primary news is not prohibited from LBN the last I knew.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:06 PM
Mar 2016

Of course, since the hosts forum is stacked with hill supporters, mine do get locked frequently.



 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
123. I am not alerting it, I just disagree with your assessment as LBN
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:26 PM
Mar 2016
 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
126. Well it did just happen this afternoon and it is a trending topic
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:30 PM
Mar 2016

across the wires...

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
112. I worked for the KOCH Brothers and gave Hillary a money contribution!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:00 PM
Mar 2016

I worked for them until they closed the plant which almost killed the town. But I donated to Hillary and will continue to do so. It will also be a pleasure to see her taking the oath of office the President of the United States.

Ya, real manly men don't like it when a woman pushes back. Real manly men don't like it when a woman raised her voice over the crowd so she can be heard.

And REAL manly men tell those manly men to PISS OFF when they don't think my wife should have anything to say.

Grrrrrrrr........

desmiller

(747 posts)
117. Hillary, the reason for your frustration is simple:
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:07 PM
Mar 2016






#booyah
 

franannjo

(29 posts)
118. Here she goes
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:07 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary is not thick anout any lies.she confused getting caught and and having to remember what she said said before.when you have to cover your own lies it's best to blame the competition.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
120. Seems she should be upset with Greenpeace and Mother Jones, not Sanders
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:13 PM
Mar 2016
 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
125. Hillary Clinton's campaign started with the lies.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:27 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders' campaign responded with truthful criticisms.

and she can't handle it...

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
127. Hey, Hillary: document a lie, liar. I dare you to try.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:31 PM
Mar 2016

Omaha Steve

(109,114 posts)
132. Locking after a review by forum hosts
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

Consider posting in GD-P

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