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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:10 PM Apr 2016

White House: Clinton qualified to be president

Source: The Hill

The White House on Thursday said Hillary Clinton is qualified to serve as president, rebutting comments from her Democratic primary opponent, Bernie Sanders.

“The president has said that Secretary Clinton comes into this race with more experience than any other non-vice president in recent campaign history,” White House spokesman Eric Schultz told reporters aboard Air Force One.

Schultz added the president was “fortunate” enough to have Clinton as his secretary of State for four years, when they “worked together on complicated, on complex issues.”

The White House came to Clinton’s defense after Sanders said his rival was unqualified to serve as president.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/275513-white-house-clinton-qualified-to-be-president

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White House: Clinton qualified to be president (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 OP
well, I'm glad that's all cleared up! Javaman Apr 2016 #1
yeah...real game changer there. nt navarth Apr 2016 #5
irony ... she said he wasn't and now he had to save her ass. roguevalley Apr 2016 #36
i know... Javaman Apr 2016 #37
Republicans are adding up the results. DhhD Apr 2016 #40
That's some unsolicited ass saving! beastie boy Apr 2016 #44
So What If She Has Been Wrong Consistently - Right? scottie55 Apr 2016 #81
Hmmm... POTUS or Scottie55? Who has better judgement on the subject? beastie boy Apr 2016 #88
He said it better: "Doing stupid shit isn't a foreign policy. " leveymg Apr 2016 #104
That was late Obama describing his foreign policy. beastie boy Apr 2016 #111
All Schultz cited was "experience" Scootaloo Apr 2016 #106
Scottie55 passed a judgement. So did Obama. beastie boy Apr 2016 #112
It's not a matter of informations, but a matter of politics Scootaloo Apr 2016 #113
If that were the case, would he go this far in praising Hillary" beastie boy Apr 2016 #114
+1 daleanime Apr 2016 #70
LOL florida08 Apr 2016 #90
Yeah, as much as I'd rather Obama stay out of the primary race... Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #2
And how can one Big Friend of the Banking Class not approve of another? n/t truedelphi Apr 2016 #10
+1 ejbr Apr 2016 #59
Well, Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #87
Its called One Corporatist President to one Corporatist Presidential Candidate. INdemo Apr 2016 #94
Maybe WH could add that Sanders is qualified, also? oldandhappy Apr 2016 #3
Yes john978 Apr 2016 #9
I can understand your disgust, but I really hope you were not surprised. truedelphi Apr 2016 #60
Honestly it doesn't mean shit dorkzilla Apr 2016 #68
Then Bernie was really in deep rock Apr 2016 #80
Which Is Why Bernie's Comment Was Stupid and Over the Top TomCADem Apr 2016 #97
That Sanders and his fan meme is so boring riversedge Apr 2016 #102
Are we having fun yet? Gregorian Apr 2016 #4
Just getting started. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #7
Just getting started. AlbertCat Apr 2016 #62
Like I couldn't have guessed...and Obama was a one term Senator. Let's see Bernie 25yrs hmmm bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #6
It's a nitpick, but it's just ten years Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #8
Okay but he was in government for 25years...and Obama.....not bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #12
I'm not sure Obama fully realizes the experience versus judgment context. Gregorian Apr 2016 #11
So true, Gregorian! :) kadaholo Apr 2016 #16
Looks like Obama just found Brnie's moral compass lying in the mud. beastie boy Apr 2016 #48
was that some kind of Haiku? AlbertCat Apr 2016 #64
A Haiku in progress beastie boy Apr 2016 #79
You have to be "in government" to decide if someone is qualified to be president? Democat Apr 2016 #27
One imagines Strom Thurmond would agree with your premise. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #33
Obama was in government for longer La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #71
Whoa. I can't believe you'd denigrate a "one term Senator" who went on to become PRESIDENT. pnwmom Apr 2016 #82
The very fact that the question was asked and the President defends Hillary's qualification raindaddy Apr 2016 #13
Do you really believe that Sanders is responsible for Sandy Hook? RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #17
You completely missed the point... raindaddy Apr 2016 #46
Bernie's accusation wasn't legitimate. He blew his top because of a false headline. pnwmom Apr 2016 #83
Excellent. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #14
George Bush was qualified to be president. Gregorian Apr 2016 #15
So are about 100,000,000 other people. n/t RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #18
Hate to say this, but after W... KansDem Apr 2016 #22
This is like when Bill Clinton had to hold an "I am relevant" press conference. closeupready Apr 2016 #19
Kind of weak and feeble to have the WH have to say you are qualified. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #20
Not quite as feeble as your opponent proclaiming you are not qualified. beastie boy Apr 2016 #49
You think Hillary is ugly? SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #63
I'm waiting for Bernie to insist that Hillary denounce Chelsea leftofcool Apr 2016 #110
In America, anybody can be president.... Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #21
Both Democratic candidates are more than qualified Democat Apr 2016 #23
I disagree. Hillary's recent statements such as her failure to affirm that Bernie is a Democrat JDPriestly Apr 2016 #24
Using your own logic, Sanders is not qualified either - but you are wrong Democat Apr 2016 #34
Well played, sir Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #39
Sanders' statement was in response to Hillary's unwillingness to affirm that he is qualified JDPriestly Apr 2016 #41
See this post. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #72
Clinton "qualified", but hardly excellent earthmanneil Apr 2016 #86
By that measure, Bernie is not qualified either beastie boy Apr 2016 #51
If you read his book, Outsider in the White House, you realize just how much of a Democrat JDPriestly Apr 2016 #69
Wait a minute, I am using your logic here. beastie boy Apr 2016 #77
Bernie isn't a Democrat, he just plays one on tv. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #53
And does a vastly bettr job of it than most Democrats Scootaloo Apr 2016 #107
Social graces? lark Apr 2016 #74
Did you see this? It's what started this controversy. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #75
Yeah, it's weird seeing the 2 headlines juxtaposed like that. lark Apr 2016 #91
Hillary is not qualified by temperament to take the flak that the president has to take. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #78
Totally agree that Bernie is the best candidate by FAR. lark Apr 2016 #92
voting for iraq war for political gain qualifies you for presidency? captainarizona Apr 2016 #25
Makes it all better does it? rofl nt revbones Apr 2016 #26
What a massive unforced error by Sanders. Bleacher Creature Apr 2016 #28
Of course she's qualified. And she's the best choice for the POTUS. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2016 #29
She can play the liberal part just like you did Mr. President but once elected she will move INdemo Apr 2016 #30
Unfortunately he clearly knows this and has her back anyway. JudyM Apr 2016 #61
Ooooo.. Lookit all the noses bent out of joint. n/t lamp_shade Apr 2016 #31
oh lookie, all these new shills on ignore. by by... litlbilly Apr 2016 #57
Hell, yes, ImaPolitico Apr 2016 #32
Once again, the Administration has to step in to prop Clinton up. blackspade Apr 2016 #35
She just can't take it, it's obvious she's nothing but a crybaby. closeupready Apr 2016 #43
Sounds like Bernie was doing all the crying over something WaPo posted leftofcool Apr 2016 #108
Most newspaper endorsements of Hillary call her 'most qualified.' nt onehandle Apr 2016 #38
I think DWS also considers Clinton to be qualified. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #42
Alas, experience does not a competent person make. In fact you can have a lot of experience and Skwmom Apr 2016 #45
Unqualified President calls his evaluator qualified Android3.14 Apr 2016 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author beastie boy Apr 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Android3.14 Apr 2016 #93
My bad beastie boy Apr 2016 #95
No worries. i also self deleted. Android3.14 Apr 2016 #96
Anybody who won't prosecute banks and torturers Oakland Apr 2016 #50
Democrats know she's qualified. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #52
The people will decide Wibly Apr 2016 #54
predictable LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #56
The White House is desperate? Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #66
Of course she's qualified, and so is Bernie. Greybnk48 Apr 2016 #58
Clinton qualified to be president AlbertCat Apr 2016 #65
Yes, cleared up, as ANYONE WHO IS A U.S. CITIZEN IS QUALIFIED. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #67
The source of this controversy is the Washington Post, and anti-Bernie rag if there ever was one: JDPriestly Apr 2016 #73
No, she's not and the PANAMA PAPERS prove it! ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #76
And Bernie's vote on the Brady Bill disqualified him leftofcool Apr 2016 #109
not really. Sanders may (or may not) have made a mistake in POLICY. ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #115
private CORRUPTION vs public POLICY ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #116
Roger that, Sir. Helen Borg Apr 2016 #84
Oh bern! liberal N proud Apr 2016 #85
Bam! leftofcool Apr 2016 #89
The bashing of Obama in this thread is disgusting. #FeelTheBern and #SipTheTea. ashtonelijah Apr 2016 #98
Moved to GD INdemo Apr 2016 #100
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2016 #99
Thank you Pres. Obama. riversedge Apr 2016 #101
Clinton is 100% qualified to be President AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #103
and a big REC riversedge Apr 2016 #105
Very interesting he feels he needs to say this out loud to the press. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #117
She's over 35 and was born in America Reter Apr 2016 #118
Thank you Mr. President pressbox69 Apr 2016 #119
#Hillyes riversedge Apr 2016 #120

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
36. irony ... she said he wasn't and now he had to save her ass.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:51 PM
Apr 2016

how things come full circle

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
44. That's some unsolicited ass saving!
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:13 PM
Apr 2016
“The president has said that Secretary Clinton comes into this race with more experience than any other non-vice president in recent campaign history,”
 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
81. So What If She Has Been Wrong Consistently - Right?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:50 PM
Apr 2016

Experience matters more than judgement right PBO?

Rest assured. She won't touch tax havens in case you plan on cashing in too.....

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
88. Hmmm... POTUS or Scottie55? Who has better judgement on the subject?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:06 PM
Apr 2016

Let me sleep on this. I'll get back to you later...

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
104. He said it better: "Doing stupid shit isn't a foreign policy. "
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:24 PM
Apr 2016

I like the earlier Obama better, one who seemed to care about his legacy and had learned from the stupid shit some of his first term Cabinet had pushed through.

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
111. That was late Obama describing his foreign policy.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:39 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton and John Kerry. No stupid shit.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
106. All Schultz cited was "experience"
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:50 PM
Apr 2016

Which hey, is true. Four years as part of the executive branch is more expedience than anyone else in the running can claim. But as Scottie55 points out, experience and judgement are different things.

As for who you ought to place more weight on, consider ; who has to keep up the appearance of being neutral-yet-positive all the time when these sort of questions come up? Scottie55 can say whatever he thinks, but the president's surrogates have to say something nice, no matter what.

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
112. Scottie55 passed a judgement. So did Obama.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:41 AM
Apr 2016

I am torn on whose judgement is more informed.

Can't I have my doubts?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
113. It's not a matter of informations, but a matter of politics
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

For a moment, imagine if Obama thought clinton was a stupid yutz who wasted four years of foreign policy potential after blackmailing him into giving her the SecState position. i'm not saying that he does think this, but just imagine he does.

Do you imagine he would ever, ever actually say that he thought that? While in office? While there's a presidential campaign going on/ of course he wouldn't. He can't, due to the demands of politics. The sitting president coming out swinging against clinton - or against sanders, for that matter - would be hugely inappropriate. The White house is pretty much bound by political expectations to "say something nice or say nothing at all."

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
114. If that were the case, would he go this far in praising Hillary"
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:22 PM
Apr 2016
"She was a formidable candidate in 2008, she was a great supporter of mine in the general election, she was an outstanding secretary of state, she is my friend, I think she would be an excellent president,"


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-hillary-clinton-would-be-an-excellent-president/

If he thought Hillary was that bad, would he be stepping on Bernie's toes even before he endorsed anyone?

Blue_Adept

(6,499 posts)
2. Yeah, as much as I'd rather Obama stay out of the primary race...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:14 PM
Apr 2016

There are things where he will end up defending his Secretary of State over.

It's called politics after all.

ejbr

(5,892 posts)
59. +1
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:45 PM
Apr 2016

Their mutual donors must have placed a call. Not sure why her qualifications need to be reinforced, however

INdemo

(7,024 posts)
94. Its called One Corporatist President to one Corporatist Presidential Candidate.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:35 PM
Apr 2016

"Here's knowing the TPP and all other trade agreements will be safe if you win"

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
3. Maybe WH could add that Sanders is qualified, also?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:15 PM
Apr 2016

But I don't want them say anything with which they disagree. I am disgusted with the WH pandering to clinton.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
60. I can understand your disgust, but I really hope you were not surprised.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:51 PM
Apr 2016

Obama has done little other than support the same endless wars, the same Big Banking give aways, and the same destructive Gm farming policies that Clinton represents.

So you shouldn't be too surprised.

Eighty percent of what any President accomplishes has to do with appointments they make.

This man has appointed arch-economic criminal Geithner to be the Head of Treasury. He re-appointed Bernanke. He also appointed countless Monsanto-inclined executives to head up positions at the FDA.

If America's middle class and lower classes had been given the monetary gifts bestowed on Big Bankers, through appointees of the Obama Administration, each man woman and child in those
classes would have received $ 222,000 !!

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
68. Honestly it doesn't mean shit
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:06 PM
Apr 2016

"She's qualified" isn't any kind of gushing endorsement. She's over 35 and a natural citizen.

TomCADem

(17,837 posts)
97. Which Is Why Bernie's Comment Was Stupid and Over the Top
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 07:55 PM
Apr 2016

It is one thing to disagree with her positions, but claiming that she is "unqualified" just makes Bernie lose credibility.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
62. Just getting started.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:56 PM
Apr 2016

Hardly


All the corporate Dems who admire Reagan have been propping up Bill's wife since the 20th century.

Blue_Adept

(6,499 posts)
8. It's a nitpick, but it's just ten years
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:18 PM
Apr 2016

He ran for Senate in 2005. In government for 25, sure. But your phrasing implies a Senator far longer.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
11. I'm not sure Obama fully realizes the experience versus judgment context.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:21 PM
Apr 2016

It's kind of unique in modern politics.

kadaholo

(304 posts)
16. So true, Gregorian! :)
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:28 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie has been on the right side of history with both judgment and experience. In addition, and certainly just as important, he never lost his moral compass.

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
48. Looks like Obama just found Brnie's moral compass lying in the mud.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:20 PM
Apr 2016

No indication so far that Bernie wants it back.

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
79. A Haiku in progress
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:30 PM
Apr 2016

I am still missing a third line. May take me a few years to finish it.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
27. You have to be "in government" to decide if someone is qualified to be president?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:43 PM
Apr 2016

Nice that you seem to dismiss both Clinton and Obama though - much like your allies Trump and Rush Limbaugh.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
33. One imagines Strom Thurmond would agree with your premise.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:50 PM
Apr 2016

One imagines Strom Thurmond would agree with your premise.

pnwmom

(110,257 posts)
82. Whoa. I can't believe you'd denigrate a "one term Senator" who went on to become PRESIDENT.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:56 PM
Apr 2016

No wonder so many Obama supporters are supporting Hillary.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
13. The very fact that the question was asked and the President defends Hillary's qualification
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:23 PM
Apr 2016

legitimizes the question. Exactly what Clinton is doing when she suggests Sanders is responsible for Sandy Hook..

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
17. Do you really believe that Sanders is responsible for Sandy Hook?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:29 PM
Apr 2016

Surely you forgot the tag.
If not, can you please send me some of what you are drinking, smoking, or otherwise ingesting to get into such a delusional way. It could come in handy.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
46. You completely missed the point...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:13 PM
Apr 2016

Make an outrageous claim, lie, etc and just the fact that it's out in the public and being addressed places the negative in the public's mind..

pnwmom

(110,257 posts)
83. Bernie's accusation wasn't legitimate. He blew his top because of a false headline.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:58 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary deliberately refused to rise to the reporter's bait about him being unqualified ,but Bernie jumped on the quote without even bothering to read the actual text of her words. She was addressing specific issues, not his overall qualifications, and she never said he was unqualified.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
19. This is like when Bill Clinton had to hold an "I am relevant" press conference.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:35 PM
Apr 2016
How embarrassing for her.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
20. Kind of weak and feeble to have the WH have to say you are qualified.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:38 PM
Apr 2016

Pathetic in a way. I would be embarrassed -- but thank goodness I am not running, giggle. I sometimes wonder if people really know how hard it is to campaign for the presidency. So much awful stuff.

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
49. Not quite as feeble as your opponent proclaiming you are not qualified.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:25 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie is catching up to Trump with his rhetoric. What's next, Hillary not qualified because she is ugly?

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
21. In America, anybody can be president....
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:38 PM
Apr 2016

"In America, anybody can be president. That's one of the risks you take." - Adlai Stevenson (1900-1965)

Democat

(11,617 posts)
23. Both Democratic candidates are more than qualified
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:41 PM
Apr 2016

If you don't think so, then you don't belong on Democratic Underground. Try Trump Underground.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. I disagree. Hillary's recent statements such as her failure to affirm that Bernie is a Democrat
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:41 PM
Apr 2016

suggest to me that she does not have the tact or intelligent to be president.

Obama would never say or insinuate the nasty things about Bernie that Hillary has been saying and insinuating.

These low digs are the resort of a loser, of a vicious loser.

Hillary is alienating Bernie supporters with her loose tongue and her lack of graciousness and lovingness.

The technical aspects of being president are less important than the social ones.

Hillary fails on social graces.

It's not because she is a woman. Elizabeth Warren is a woman and succeeds when it comes to the social graces.

Obama is a man and is as kind and gracious as a person can be.

Hillary -- no. And that is why I do not think that she is qualified to be president.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
34. Using your own logic, Sanders is not qualified either - but you are wrong
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:51 PM
Apr 2016

Here, let me rewrite your post for you from the other side:


Sanders recent statements such as his failure to affirm that Clinton is qualified to be Democratic president

suggest to me that he does not have the tact or intelligent to be president.

Obama would never say or insinuate the nasty things about Clinton that Sanders has been saying and insinuating.

These low digs are the resort of a loser, of a vicious loser.

Sanders is alienating Clinton supporters with his loose tongue and his lack of graciousness and lovingness.

The technical aspects of being president are less important than the social ones.

Sanders fails on social graces.

It's not because he is a man. Obama is a man and succeeds when it comes to the social graces.

Warren is a woman and is as kind and gracious as a person can be.

Sander -- no. And that is why I do not think that he is qualified to be president.


That is exactly what a Clinton supporter could say about Sanders and they believe it as much as you believe your nonsense.

Here is the correct answer:

Both Democratic candidates are qualified to be president and both of them would make excellent presidents, especially compared to Trump or Cruz.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
41. Sanders' statement was in response to Hillary's unwillingness to affirm that he is qualified
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:58 PM
Apr 2016

to be president.

I agree that Bernie is qualified to be president, but Hillary's lack of tact which was demonstrated by her unwillingness to confirm that Bernie is qualified and by her, as I have heard but did not see myself, REPEATED UNWILLINGNESS TO CONFIRM THAT BERNIE IS A DEMOCRAT reveal.

It is not the specific statements that she has made but her lack of graciousness toward Bernie that disqualify her as a candidate.

Bernie was responding to her nastiness. Not the other way around.

And it is true that a person who accepts as much money from the wealthiest people and interests is not qualified to be a president who is supposed to be president for all of us.

In this respect, Bernie is the only candidate out there who qualifies for the presidency.

Hillary along with Cruz, Kasich and Trump are all running on corporate money and gifts from the wealthy.

Bernie is the only one running on people money, ordinary people money. In my book, that means he is the only one of them who is truly qualified to be president of the people.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
72. See this post.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:17 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280168169

The accusation that Bernie was not qualified was in the Washington Post.

That thread at the link I am giving you explains this controversy.
 

earthmanneil

(25 posts)
86. Clinton "qualified", but hardly excellent
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:03 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders would make an excellent president, initiating a bold new and needed direction for this country. Clinton #2 might make for another in a line of mediocre presidents who prioritize corporate interests over that of working Americans. Clinton only looks "good" in the fiendish light of authoritarian Trump and theocrat Cruz. But excellent, no!

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
51. By that measure, Bernie is not qualified either
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:28 PM
Apr 2016

oops, you beat me to it, Democrat!

I will leave the link just in case there are any challenges to your post.


http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-15/sanders-yes-im-a-democrat-of-convenience

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
69. If you read his book, Outsider in the White House, you realize just how much of a Democrat
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:12 PM
Apr 2016

he really is. He is the kind of Democrat my parents were -- an FDR Democrat.

He criticizes Bill Clinton for having gone too far to the right, and as an FDR Democrat myself, I very much agree with him.

The Democratic Party used to brag that it is a big tent.

I hope it is big enough for me and other Sanders supporters because if it isn't, well, there may be some big surprises in November.

Do you think I am a Democrat?

Check back on my history on DU? Do you think I am a Democrat?

Because I have always voted for Democrats, but I am a strong Bernie supporter.

For me, he is what other Democrats should be. We are the party of FDR, and I am proud of that fact.

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
77. Wait a minute, I am using your logic here.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:25 PM
Apr 2016

You stated that Hillary's failure to affirm Bernie is a democrat disqualifies her from being President.

As late as March 15, Bernie also failed to affirm he is a Democrat.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-15/sanders-yes-im-a-democrat-of-convenience

By your own words, you just disqualified Bernie.

lark

(26,078 posts)
74. Social graces?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:19 PM
Apr 2016

OMG. Hillary is supposed to be awesome 1 on 1, has plenty of social graces. I can't believe you gave that as a reason. She's not great in crowds or in front of crowds, but that doesn't disqualify her, just makes her more likely not to win. That's not the same thing at all.

Hillary and Bernie are both qualified to be president, much more than any Repug running. I don't think Bernie should have said she was "unqualified", that was wrong. I agree that she made some bad decisions, but all of the Repugs did too and they are running for president, so obviously they all qualified to run. Would they make good presidents, hell no, but they are qualified to run.

Hillary, though I wish otherwise, is probably going to be the Dem candidate. She is far more qualified by temperament and discernment than any of the Repugs and needs our votes if she is the general candidate.

Still hoping for Bernie, and voted for him, but the games rigged and it will be a miracle if he wins.

lark

(26,078 posts)
91. Yeah, it's weird seeing the 2 headlines juxtaposed like that.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:21 PM
Apr 2016

Wish I could open the articles, but sadly can't on this computer. I'll try again when I get home.

Thanks.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
78. Hillary is not qualified by temperament to take the flak that the president has to take.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

Think of what Obama has gone through.

He has been patient from the deepest depth of his soul.

I am always amazed by his grace. I disagree with him on some of the issues, but as a person, he is in his nature exceptionally well qualified to be president.

Hillary is too nervous. People really make her mad. She is deeply hurt by criticisms that are unkind. She did a pretty good job at the congressional hearing on the crazy e-mails and Benghazi. But by nature she is not easy-going and graced with the ability to relax even when people are pointing their fingers at her.

Bernie is more able to take that kind of pressure, but Obama is the master of the kind of grace I am talking about. He is genuinely not too upset by nasty opponents, and goodness knows, he has had to deal with more than his share of them.

Bill Clinton was fairly good at this aspect of being president too. But Hillary? No. She is not. Has nothing to do with her views on the issues. It's her personality. It just is.

Being president is really, really tough. Bernie is better suited for it. Read his book, Outsider in the White House and you will see.

lark

(26,078 posts)
92. Totally agree that Bernie is the best candidate by FAR.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:22 PM
Apr 2016

Just don't think that she's unqualified.

 

captainarizona

(363 posts)
25. voting for iraq war for political gain qualifies you for presidency?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:42 PM
Apr 2016

I don't think so! Nor do the families of the over 4000 dead americans in iraq. the worst mistake america has ever made with vietnam war a close second.

Bleacher Creature

(11,504 posts)
28. What a massive unforced error by Sanders.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:45 PM
Apr 2016

This President is hugely popular among Democrats in PA, NY, and CA. Other than a direct rebuke by Obama himself, the Clinton campaign couldn't have asked for more.

Wow.

INdemo

(7,024 posts)
30. She can play the liberal part just like you did Mr. President but once elected she will move
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:45 PM
Apr 2016

farther to the right than you did Mr. President..Her cabinet GFB if elected will look more like a Republican staff.
Just take a look at the Right Wing advisers she has on her campaign staff...they will want rewarded.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
35. Once again, the Administration has to step in to prop Clinton up.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:51 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton hides behind or coops Obama's policies and legacy and now has to be bailed out when the going gets rough.
Typical.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
45. Alas, experience does not a competent person make. In fact you can have a lot of experience and
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:13 PM
Apr 2016

still be a major fuck up.

Response to Android3.14 (Reply #47)

Response to beastie boy (Reply #55)

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
95. My bad
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:49 PM
Apr 2016

It was intended for a different recipient.

In the context of your post, it is indeed bizarre.

Self-deleting in a few...

Oakland

(67 posts)
50. Anybody who won't prosecute banks and torturers
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:26 PM
Apr 2016

and is still at war 8 years after taking office isn't qualified to talk about who is qualified to be President.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
52. Democrats know she's qualified.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:30 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie's not a Democrat, so he obviously has his own way of viewing the world.

Wibly

(613 posts)
54. The people will decide
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:37 PM
Apr 2016

The people will decide who is qualified to be President, or not. The sitting President will not be the decider on that file.
That said, while Clinton may be qualified as per her CV, the question Sanders is asking is if she is morally qualified to be President. And its a good question.

Greybnk48

(10,723 posts)
58. Of course she's qualified, and so is Bernie.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:44 PM
Apr 2016

Cruz, Trump, Kasich, and Lyin' Ryan...not so much.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
67. Yes, cleared up, as ANYONE WHO IS A U.S. CITIZEN IS QUALIFIED.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:05 PM
Apr 2016

His statement could have been as broad as the scope of my statement.

ish of the hammer

(444 posts)
76. No, she's not and the PANAMA PAPERS prove it!
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:22 PM
Apr 2016

Podesta and Blumenthal are named in them.
you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas! and the Clintons are busy scratching!

ish of the hammer

(444 posts)
115. not really. Sanders may (or may not) have made a mistake in POLICY.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:40 PM
Apr 2016

the Clintons have their hand out for MONEY.
see how that works

ish of the hammer

(444 posts)
116. private CORRUPTION vs public POLICY
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:44 PM
Apr 2016

the Clintons are filthy rich and how did they acquire that wealth?
what did they promise behind closed doors?
do you know?
see how that works.

ashtonelijah

(340 posts)
98. The bashing of Obama in this thread is disgusting. #FeelTheBern and #SipTheTea.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 08:21 PM
Apr 2016

So called liberals using Tea Party talking points. Another reason I will never support a demagogue like Bernie Sanders.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
103. Clinton is 100% qualified to be President
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:23 PM
Apr 2016

Her qualifications:

a) a natural born citizen
b) over 35 years of age
c) has lived in the US for more than 14 years

This "qualified" thing is so juvenile, it's beneath everyone participating in it. My face has a visible palm print on it from reading these threads.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
117. Very interesting he feels he needs to say this out loud to the press.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:20 PM
Apr 2016

Confidence..where did it go? lol

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