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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:00 PM Apr 2016

Wisdom influenced by heart rate variability

Source: Medical News Today

"There is a wisdom of the head, and a wisdom of the heart," Charles Dickens wrote in his novel Hard Times. But a new study suggests the heart could have a large influence on the wisdom of the head, after finding people with greater heart rate variability may have wiser judgement.

Lead researcher Prof. Igor Grossman, of the Department of Psychology at the University of Waterloo, Canada, and colleagues publish their findings in the journal Frontiers in Behavioral Neuroscience.

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Prof. Grossman and colleagues note that an increasingly popular notion among cognitive scientists and philosophers is that wise judgement is "recognizing the limits of one's knowledge, being aware of the varied contexts of life and how they may unfold over time, acknowledge other people's points of view, and search for reconciliation of opposing viewpoints."

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When asked about their opinions on social issues from a third-person perspective, participants with greater heart rate variation were found to reason in a wiser, less biased manner than those with lower heart rate variation.

However, when asked to reflect about societal issues from a first-person perspective, no association between heart rate variation and wiser judgement was identified.

Explaining what their findings mean, Prof. Grossmann says:

"Our research shows that wise reasoning is not exclusively a function of the mind and cognitive ability. We found that people who have greater heart rate variability and who are able to think about social problems from a distanced viewpoint demonstrate a greater capacity for wise reasoning."


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Read more: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/308851.php



Another stumbling block for classical AI and self-driving cars.


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Wisdom influenced by heart rate variability (Original Post) bananas Apr 2016 OP
Fascinating. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #1
Two hemispheres are better than one. DhhD Apr 2016 #2
The secret to wisdom: forest444 Apr 2016 #3
wise judgement is "recognizing the limits of one's knowledge SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #4
"Wise judgement is "recognizing the limits of one's knowledge, being aware of FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #5
K & R --- thanks for the link --- posted to my FB page Petrushka Apr 2016 #6
Thanks. I ended up getting caught up in some science on heart rate variability. Gregorian Apr 2016 #7
Association is not causality. Something "wise" people know. McCamy Taylor Apr 2016 #8
I must be wise as all get out . . FairWinds Apr 2016 #9
I hate it when junk science gets thrown around and this is a real bad example of that. Jemmons Apr 2016 #10
It's actually not at all difficult to be wise. Just think .... Scuba Apr 2016 #11
+1 nt GliderGuider Apr 2016 #13
That's why you can only cast Cure Light Wounds Codeine Apr 2016 #12
+1 beerandjesus Apr 2016 #14
Socrates said this same thing 2500 years ago. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2016 #15
Some of those wide variations aint great Warpy Apr 2016 #16

FailureToCommunicate

(14,620 posts)
5. "Wise judgement is "recognizing the limits of one's knowledge, being aware of
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:17 PM
Apr 2016

the varied contexts of life and how they may unfold over time, acknowledge other people's points of view, and search for reconciliation of opposing viewpoints."


Boy, does it seem like there are a LOT of people in need of these very attributes at DU during these primary months?

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
7. Thanks. I ended up getting caught up in some science on heart rate variability.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:43 AM
Apr 2016

So it ends up aerobic and weights do a world of preventative and restorative good. A little bit every day helps.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
8. Association is not causality. Something "wise" people know.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:41 AM
Apr 2016

Greater heart rate variability is also associated with improved cardiovascular function, meaning that poor heart rate variability could be a marker for hardening of the arteries, cerebral vascular disease and early dementia and not for idiocy as this post suggests.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
9. I must be wise as all get out . .
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:18 AM
Apr 2016

with my heart arrhythmia, my rate varies (no kidding!)

between 37 to 220 Beats Per Minute.

Jemmons

(711 posts)
10. I hate it when junk science gets thrown around and this is a real bad example of that.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:08 AM
Apr 2016

This is a gross misrepresentation of the research on heart rate variability and cognition. As mentioned in the article:

...it was already known that individuals with greater heart rate variation tend to have better executive functioning, such as working memory, than those with lower heart rate variation



This is because heart rate variability is a form of regulation by the brain that acts a good proxy for measuring the regulatory strength of a particular brain at a particular time. Both hrv and "wisdom" relies on the regulatory function of the brain and they therefore tend to CORRELATE. Executive function is largely a function of regulated attention, something which is a lot more costly in terms of energy and energy substrates than instinctual or habitual function, which can run on automatic. These behaviors are based on engrained and optimized activity patterns and are thus cheaper in terms of resources.
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
11. It's actually not at all difficult to be wise. Just think ....
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 05:52 AM
Apr 2016

... of something stupid to say and don't say it.

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,215 posts)
15. Socrates said this same thing 2500 years ago.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:08 PM
Apr 2016

"recognizing the limits of one's knowledge, being aware of the varied contexts of life and how they may unfold over time, acknowledge other people's points of view, and search for reconciliation of opposing viewpoints."


This isn't new, it has just been ignored .

Warpy

(114,671 posts)
16. Some of those wide variations aint great
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 06:51 PM
Apr 2016

Orthostatic tachycardia kept me living like a cardiac cripple for years. It wasn't until I passed out in the post office and broke a leg on the way down that anyone took it seriously. I'm still having trouble being able to trust being vertical for more than ten minutes at a time.

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