**BREAKING** Bernie Sanders Projected To Win Wyoming Caucuses, Keeping Momentum Alive

[tomm2thumbs]

Source: AP via KNPR

Democratic voters in Wyoming have decided: Sen. Bernie Sanders has won the state's caucuses, according to The Associated Press. <snip> Wyoming, a deeply red state, isn't exactly up for grabs in the general election; most onlookers expect the state to vote Republican, no matter who the GOP ends up choosing as its nominee. But that didn't stop both Clinton and Sanders from setting up campaign offices and running television ads there.

And, even as headlines have showered attention on the delegate-rich primary in New York on April 19, Sanders himself visited Wyoming earlier this week, holding a rally at the University of Wyoming. Former President Bill Clinton campaigned on behalf of his wife in Cheyenne.

"I think when people get to see and hear a candidate or a former president first hand it really inspires them to understand the true meaning of an election," says Aimee Van Cleave, the executive director of the Wyoming Democratic Party.

It's the latest in a string of victories for Sanders in Western states that hold caucuses. He also won in Idaho, Utah, Colorado and Washington state.

Read more: http://knpr.org/npr/2016-04/bernie-sanders-projected-win-wyoming-caucuses-keeping-momentum-alive

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Also projected by CNN and other Networks

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Great News from Wyoming! n/t

[Baobab]

51. Wyoming is very conservative - or was in the past - so this is quite amazing.

it shows that he has universal appeal- People realize he's a LOT less scary than all the others.

[SCantiGOP]

102. First off, how many people voted?

Secondly, see the post directly below this one. Clinton still has 62% of the delegates and Sanders will pick up a net of either 0 or at best 2. He is running out of time.

Sanders won the Idaho caucus with about 17,000 votes . Clinton got more votes than that in just my county in the SC primary.

[I hate liars]

120. I want to know why Bernie wins all of the caucus states, where people can see who voted

It's curious that when election results are transparent, Bernie comes out ahead.

[JimDandy]

129. He appealed to the Dem Party Base in WY! It was a closed election contest

so this bodes well for him in all the upcoming closed contest states such as NY.

[geek tragedy]

2. it may be a 7-7 split on delegates. or, best case scenario for Sanders, 8-6

which is actually a disappointment.

A 2 delegate win in a caucus state is not what they were hoping for.

[MADem]

28. Well, that sounds like more than one "LION" gets a share, then....LOL.

How much was spent by each candidate on MEDIA I wonder....and how much money did Tad Devine make on this grand win?

[Pauldg47]

29. Probably 11 and 3.

[geek tragedy]

31. no, that's not a possibility based on the actual returns nt

[MADem]

40. What astounding fantasy!!

Or wishful thinking--either way, that won't happen. It's a statistical impossibility.

#math

[George II]

75. Nope - tally is now 7-7.

[annavictorious]

95. Seven delegates each

has been confirmed. And all 4 Wyoming supers declared for Hillary.
But look at the bright side. Someone is getting 11 Wyoming delegates.

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/wyoming

[Codeine]

124. Random Number Generation isn't part of the nomination process.

But thanks for playing.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

133. I'm sure you are very disappointed.

What a crock.

[geek tragedy]

149. Why? It was a 7-7 delegate split nt

[RandySF]

3. When was the article posted?

Final paragraph: "Saturday's caucuses begin at 1 p.m. ET"

[Plucketeer]

4. Let's keep the Pedal to the Metal, Bernie!

Watch your back bumper, Hillary! We's comin' thru!

[lancer78]

78. Damn right

Look out Hillary!

Sander's getting mighty!

[iandhr]

5. So Wyoming exists? huh.

[AlbertCat]

26. So Wyoming exists? huh.

Yeah.

But if you read further down, Hillary supporters will remind you that it doesn't matter.

Neither, apparently, do caucuses.

[iandhr]

55. Well pot meet kettle

Sanders folks were always there to say how a Hillary victory didn't matter

[AlbertCat]

99. Sanders folks were always there to say how a Hillary victory didn't matter

If you say so.

I do remember characterizing something like a .05% win as a great victory was dismissed a bit.

I think there was a lot more annoyance about calling for Sanders to quit and that he was "toast" when only 5 or 6 states had voted.... which is not exactly the same thing.

[roguevalley]

107. a hrc told me my whole state didn't matter because we

Only had X numbers of AA people. I still loathe that person.

[Walk away]

112. Sanders himself was just on TV telling the faithful about the "Deep South" states again.

If my candidate kept saying things like that I would be mortified.

[bvar22]

157. Yes. Everybody knows that the Deep South States should be referred to as "Hillary's Firewall".

That is much more appropriate way to refer to conservative states that won't count for anything in the General election, and was used frequently by Hillary and her acolytes.
Hillary won't win a single one of her "Firewall" states.

I would be highly offended if someone referred to me as their "Firewall".
What? I'm supposed to get burned up to save THEIR royal ass?
I don't think so.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

134. I'm starting to loathe a whole lot of people here.

That I used to accept on face value that they were decent people, you know, being democrats and all. That illusion has been destroyed.

This thread has been great for my ignore list though!

[roguevalley]

141. agreed

[George II]

6. WHOO HOOOO. So now he's "won" the two smallest states and adds another caucus state.

[AlbertCat]

34. he's "won" the two smallest states

There is no need for "" around won.... he actually did win.

And WY is actually a huge state...even tho' it has a small population. But it's still a state....in the "United States of America".

Also, caucuses, no matter how awful they may be, still count..... the ol' "Clinton brush-off" not withstanding.

[George II]

38. Well, if you consider those "wins" in the grand scheme of things, have at it. But...

....Clinton has won 10 of the top 15 states that have voted, Sanders the smallest 8 that have voted.

Remember, where it counts (delegates) Clinton is still ahead by 214 pledged delegates, 655 total.

[crim son]

70. A win is a win.

Wtf is up with the negativity? Your candidate is doing very well; let Sanders supporters enjoy the good news.

[George II]

72. In proportional states not necessarily true. Like today - Sanders "won" in Wyoming but Clinton is..

....coming out of the state with more delegates.

[840high]

96. Go piss somehere else.

[George II]

97. .

[Peace Patriot]

146. Thank you, harmonicon! I dig your rage!

I feel it, too. Thank you for expressing it so well. And I hope you keep helping us counter the "turd way" warmonger garbage that gets posted here.

I mean, she's got Henry Fucking Kissinger as an adviser!!!

Henry. Fucking. Kissinger.

[AllyCat]

110. Astonishing system.

Sanders actually is trying to appeal to all the people. She just campaigns where she needs to get delegates. Shrewd. Not representative, but tactical.

[George II]

114. "Eyes on the prize"

[Codeine]

103. In this case a "win" is a tie.

Enjoy zero net delegates.

[Scootaloo]

111. I'm sure you would be just as dismissing of Wyomingers if Clinton had won, yes?

[George II]

113. Who was dismissive of Wyoming? Your incorrect assumption, of course. Every delegate counts....

....and in today's caucuses, even though Clinton got about 8% less votes than Sanders, she got just as many pledged delegates as he did AND she comes out of Wyoming with an 11-7 advantage.

She moved 11 delegates closer to the nomination and there are 18 less delegates up for grabs.

I'd say that is very significant.

[Scootaloo]

115. You're dismissing it all up and down this thread

[George II]

118. Well if you want to believe that, any number of words won't change your mind.

[arikara]

145. Obviously it has nothing better to do

than post a passively aggressive waving smiley. If I see that fucking thing one more time its off to ignore for it.

[Kittycat]

7. Congrats Sen. Sanders, Jane, Campaign workers & volunteers!

Time to pay it forward with another donation to help out the next contest stage. Don't forget to follow up with http://berniecrats.net/ to find candidates in your state seeking campaign support.

[philly_bob]

36. Thanks, Kittycat, for the link to candidates associated with Bernie.

Very useful. The kind of change that Bernie asks for will require a wholesale revision of the Democratic Party crew, starting from Wasserman Schultz at the top down to the local races.

[Kittycat]

56. No problem.

There are a lot of great people out there looking for support on the ground, phones, and with fundraising.

[stopwastingmymoney]

50. I'm bookmarking that, thank you, nt

[Kittycat]

57. +1

[jpak]

8. with 76% in - Sanders 121 delegates to 92 for Hillary

n/t

[Beacool]

14. He won, but MSNBC is saying that Hillary over performed because it wasn't a blowout.

There was not doubt that Sanders would win this caucus, but Hillary did better than expected. S 56% - H 44%. She'll meet her delegate target of 5.

[MADem]

35. Winning Cheney Country isn't exactly a recipe for anything. I mean, it's not like ANY Dem would

take that state in NOV.

[leftofcool]

53. Wyoming and guns is all you need to know!

[PatV]

54. Unlike how big a win this would be if Clinton won it😀😀😀

You people are so predictable.

[MADem]

116. NO. Because it won't be in our column in Nov, either.

There are no frigging voters in WY, either.

States that matter are states with PEOPLE in them. That's why a place like Florida is worth three or four lousy caucus states.

[PatV]

119. Yeah right.

[markj757]

94. Unfortunately....

I have to agree with the Bernie supporting zealots on DU because Hillary dominated in southern states thanks to her popularity in the black community, and we won't win those states in the General either. So even though I'm a Hillary supporter, I have to disagree with that comment.

[LiberalFighter]

121. That is true about not likely to win those states.

But because of how the Democratic Party determines the number of delegates each state receives some states are weighted more because of a higher election results for the Democratic candidate. The census population or registered voters of a state is not considered when determining the number of delegates.

There are states with lower census populations than higher census populations that have more delegates.

Computation of Base Votes for Jurisdictions with Electoral Votes

Each jurisdiction with electoral votes is assigned a number of Base (delegate) votes based on an "Allocation Factor" multiplied by 3,200 [Call Rule I.B.] arrived at through a calculation involving the following factors:

State's Democratic Vote (SDV): The jurisdiction's popular vote for the Democratic candidate for President in the last three Presidential Elections (2004, 2008, and 2012). Source: The vote totals for 2004 and 2008 below were obtained from FEC.gov on 24 November 2010. The vote totals for 2012 were taken from The Green Papers 2012 General Election Presidential Popular Vote and FEC Total Receipts by Party on 17 January 2013.
Total Democratic Vote (TDV): The total popular vote for the Democratic candidate for President in the last three Presidential Elections (2004, 2008, and 2012).
The state's Electoral Vote (SEV) averaged over the last three Presidential Elections (2004, 2008, and 2012).
The total Electoral Vote of all jurisdictions (538).

The formula for determining a jurisdiction's Allocation Factor is:

Allocation Factor = ½ × ( ( SDV ÷ TDV ) + ( SEV ÷ 538 ) )

The number of Base votes assigned to a state is Allocation Factor × 3,200 rounded to the nearest whole number (fractions 0.5 and above are rounded up).

To summarize, half of a jurisdiction's base vote is determined by the number of Presidential Electors assigned to that state and half are computed by the number of people who voted for the Democratic Presidential candidate in the last three elections.

Below are the states in order of their delegates.

State *** Delegates *** Census
Wyoming *** 14 *** 576,412
Vermont *** 16 *** 626,011
Alaska *** 16 *** 731,449
North Dakota *** 18 *** 699,628
South Dakota *** 20 *** 833,354
District of Columbia *** 20 *** 632,323
Delaware *** 21 *** 917,092
Montana *** 21 *** 1,005,141
Idaho *** 23 *** 1,595,728
New Hampshire *** 24 *** 1,320,718
Rhode Island *** 24 *** 1,050,292
Nebraska *** 25 *** 1,855,525
Maine *** 25 *** 1,329,192
Hawaii *** 25 *** 1,392,313
West Virginia *** 29 *** 1,855,413
Arkansas *** 32 *** 2,949,131
Kansas *** 33 *** 2,885,905
Utah *** 33 *** 2,855,287
New Mexico *** 34 *** 2,085,538
Nevada *** 35 *** 2,758,931
Mississippi *** 36 *** 2,984,926
Oklahoma *** 38 *** 3,814,820
Iowa *** 44 *** 3,074,186
Louisiana *** 51 *** 4,601,893
South Carolina *** 53 *** 4,723,723
Alabama *** 53 *** 4,822,023
Connecticut *** 55 *** 3,590,347
Kentucky *** 55 *** 4,380,415
Puerto Rico *** 60 *** 3,548,397
Oregon *** 61 *** 3,899,353
Colorado *** 66 *** 5,187,582
Tennessee *** 67 *** 6,456,243
Missouri *** 71 *** 6,021,988
Arizona *** 75 *** 6,553,255
Minnesota *** 77 *** 5,379,139
Indiana *** 83 *** 6,537,334
Wisconsin *** 86 *** 5,726,386
Massachusetts *** 91 *** 6,646,144
Virginia *** 95 *** 8,185,867
Maryland *** 95 *** 5,884,563
Washington *** 101 *** 6,897,012
Georgia *** 102 *** 9,919,945
North Carolina *** 107 *** 9,656,401
New Jersey *** 126 *** 8,864,590
Michigan *** 130 *** 9,883,360
Ohio *** 143 *** 11,544,225
Illinois *** 156 *** 12,875,255
Pennsylvania *** 189 *** 12,763,536
Florida *** 214 *** 19,317,568
Texas *** 222 *** 26,059,203
New York *** 247 *** 19,570,261
California *** 475 *** 38,041,430

In several instances, smaller populated states have the same or more delegates than larger populated states.
North Dakota 2 more than Alaska
DC the same as South Dakota
New Hampshire and Rhode Island 1 more than Idaho
Maine and Hawaii the same as Nebraska
Iowa 6 more than Oklahoma
Connecticut and Kentucky 2 more than Alabama
Oregon 6 more than Kentucky
Missouri 4 more than Tennessee
Minnesota 2 more than Arizona
Indiana has 8 more than Arizona even though their population is nearly identical. But because Indiana went for Obama in 2008 it earned more delegates.
Wisconsin has 3 more delegates than Indiana
Maryland has same delegates as Virginia (Virginia census 2.3 million more)
North Carolina has 5 more delegates than Georgia (Georgia census 250,000 more)
New Jersey has 19 more delegates than North Carolina (NC census 800,000 more)
Pennsylvania has 33 more delegates than Illinois (IL census 100,000+ more)
New York has 25 more delegates than Texas (TX census 6.5 million more)

The overall result is that delegates are proportionately allocated based on election results.

[earthside]

80. It is a solid Sanders victory.

Look.

I'm originally from Wyoming; I was once a state committeeman and I worked for the last Democrat ever elected to Congress from that state.

I live in Denver now, but I have a lot of friends and family still living in Wyoming.

Wyoming is very conservative; even the Democrats are conservative.
Most Democrats in Wyoming would be Republicans almost anywhere else in the United States.

So, for a "socialist" like Sen. Sanders to win Wyoming is a pretty big deal.

[disndat]

84. Shows people are fed up

Wyoming caucus outcome today must show that people are more concerned about good govt. than political ideology.

[George II]

88. Delegates are split 7-7

[Chicago1980]

18. That delegate isn't right.

Wyoming has like 10 people (586,000)

Has to me more like 14-16 with the low population.

[Beacool]

22. She may get more than 5, my point was that her target was 5 and she'll meet it.

[Plucketeer]

67. LOL

Yeah - her projected degree of LOSS. Sounds like a FOX news angle.

[Beacool]

82. In case you hadn't noticed, it's about the pledged delegate count.

If the 538is correct, they both ended with 7 delegates each. She surpassed her target, he didn't.

[Plucketeer]

90. Dear Moderators

Is it possible we could get a "spin" smilie that would be appropriate in certain instances?

Thanks, Pluck

[JimDandy]

39. County delegates, not the state's national convention delegates. n/t

[jpak]

74. That is what the Dem spokesperson said - state delegates - not national

n/t

[bigwillq]

9. K and R (nt)

[msongs]

10. yet the bernie crowd keeps telling us how caucuses are bad lol nt

[Beacool]

11. Congratulations to Sanders and his supporters.

[Squinch]

77. Seconded! Congratulations!

[onehandle]

12. Rut-row. Much closer than expected. Being called a 'Disappointment.'

Feel the fail.

[passiveporcupine]

43. Oh aren't you cheery.

[Chicago1980]

13. Expected...

A fairly diverse state Wyoming is right?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

135. Yeah, fuck em all, right?

[Chasstev365]

15. Great News! However....

I will puke hearing how both the Media and Hillary supporters will downplay yet another victory for Bernie Sanders.

Neither of them can handle how well "David is taking on Goliath" and because people are finally starting to realize that the Clintons and there money interests are not much better than Republicans, they will be in full panic mode. Watch for the attacks on Bernie to get even nastier.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

136. It seems like WY has sent of of them over the edge.

Thank you, WY! Clinton can't even win a state with 500K people!

[BeatleBoot]

16. He has these Caucauses nailed down.

Doing extremely well at them.

[MADem]

37. If there were a "general election caucus" he might have a shot.

Since there isn't, though, this just puts him even further behind in his delegate count.

He's not making his target, and Clinton is exceeding hers.

[Ochsfan]

47. And she has the Confederacy.

If only this were 1976!

[roguevalley]

108. if only this were 1856

[SunSeeker]

48. Well, Sanders didn't do "extremely" well in Wyoming.

After losing Wyoming handily to Obama in 2008, Clinton managed to hold her own Saturday – she won the state’s two most populous counties, Natrona and Laramie. As a result, it’s unlikely Sanders will net more than a handful of delegates out of the result. Sanders has typically run stronger in Western caucuses, winning 70 percent of the vote or more in recent contests in Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho, Utah and Washington state.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-wyoming-caucus-221756#ixzz45MmvsfEv
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[me b zola]

17. K&R

[deutsey]

19. K&R

[sharp_stick]

20. How's the delegate breakdown? n/t

[stopbush]

66. Hillary has won WY once the supers are added.

She already has 4 supers and will get more.

And Clinton's supers are digging in their heels after Sanders antics this past week, especially with the Sanders campaign announcing their intent to ignore the will of the people and try to flip Clinton's supers. Ain't gonna happen.

So, WY ends up being a surprise win for Hillary. How about that?

[George II]

87. Final tally is 7 (11) to 7, Clinton over Sanders

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

137. You love the undemocratic system don't you?

Hillary wouldn't have a chance in hell if this dem primary system wasn't so rigged. Hillary supporters have exposed themselves to be more autocratic than democratic.

[sharp_stick]

150. She has more than 2.4 million

more votes than Sanders does so far.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_vote_count.html

[fbc]

21. Will Hillary win another state?

It's not looking like it.

[Beacool]

24. NY, PA, NJ and MD come to mind.

As some pundit pointed out today, Sanders has yet to win a closed primary.

[Kumbricia]

46. Independents will matter in November

The general election won't be a closed primary

[sharp_stick]

52. He still has to win a couple of them though

before he gets a shot at November. He can't win them by a little bit, he needs to clean up. He has a mountain to climb and not enough time to do it.

[LenaBaby61]

128. **BREAKING** Bernie Sanders Projected To Win Wyoming Caucuses, Keeping Momentum Alive.

Agree.

With Pa, NJ, MD and NY coming up, things will get much more difficult for Bernie. He's been on a wonderful winning streak that's soon to end. I have to admit, Hillary doing "decently" in Wyoming is a bit of a shocker. She was mauled there in 2008 by then Senator Obama.

[Beacool]

153. Wyoming was a closed caucus.

No Independents to muddy the waters. They both got the same amount of pledged delegates out of it, 7 each.

All's good.......

[Mira]

23. I used to play Poker with a guy from England

he always said: "Never win the early ones....."
Keep up the good work Mr. Sanders, many of us are counting on you.

[Dont call me Shirley]

25. Wyoming is Feeling The Bern!

[notadmblnd]

27. yeah!

[2banon]

30. Yep Bernie WON WYOMING!!!

[tomm2thumbs]

32. that's a real PARTY POST if I ever saw one!!

Love it!

[Duval]

59. Heyyy, I just have the biggest smile!!

That was FUN! Thanks, 2banon.

[NJCher]

69. I'm with you, 2banon!

Your post made me smile (even more)!

Cher

[Codeine]

105. Zero net delegates is an odd definition of "win". nt

[LiberalFighter]

123. Yes it is!

The Bernie people don't understand math. Winning a state by a few votes doesn't cut it when you need enough of a win have more delegates than the other person.

In this case, Sanders needed 11 delegates out 14 to be on target. Instead, he is 4 short of his target. Which means the targets for the remaining primaries will be adjusted up.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

138. 56-44 percent. Anything esle is rigged democracy.

Which you and your ilk love and depend on. Zero respect for you too.

[Codeine]

142. Caucuses are by definition "rigged democracy."

A goofy, hours-long shouting match attended by a handful of the electorate is an archaic affectation in the modern world.

And the personal nastiness in your post was unwarranted, sir.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

143. I'm referring to the superdelegates, and don't call me sir.

[Codeine]

144. The 7-7 split has nothing whatsoever

to do with superdelegates, sir.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

147. What does that have to do with it?

I'm talking about super delegates. If she becomes president it will only be because the primary process is rigged. Caucuses and "closed" primaries should also be done away with, ma'am.

[SoapBox]

33. Thank you Wyoming!

Good job Berners!

[passiveporcupine]

41. He got 7 she got 6 delegates

The victory over Hillary Clinton means the Vermont senator will take home the lion's share of the state's 14 pledged delegates.

I'm not sure I'd call that the lion's share, but at least it was a win. It would have been nice if he could have pulled in a few more delegates. I want to see him closing the gap in delegates, not keeping it even.

[Kittycat]

60. It was a great contest, and the state delegates are elected May 28th

So momentum.

[passiveporcupine]

63. How many state delegates?

I forgot that sometimes the delegates are not all assigned at the caucus. I don't mean super delegates.

This whole causus system is too damn confusing to my not-so-nimble brain.

[Kittycat]

65. Link to WY caucus site

I always find this stuff interesting, but sometimes little rules change from one election.season to another, so you have to look them up each time,and each state has their own guidelines. Here are the FAQs. #13 directly answers your question though. You'll want to read 11 & 12 for some definition.

http://www.wyodems.org/frequently-asked-questions

13. How many delegates does Wyoming send to the Democratic National Convention?
Wyoming will be sending 18 delegates and 2 alternates. 8 are District-Level delegates, 4 are unpledged party Leaders and elected officials, 2 are PLEOs, 4 are At-Large delegates with 2 alternates.

[passiveporcupine]

68. Thanks!

That's a lot more county delegates than I was expecting to see. I'm still confused. I'm afraid that didn't help me much. I am glad I don't live in a state that caucuses.

[FailureToCommunicate]

42. Woot! "Eight contests in a row" -NPR

(Of course that's about all NPR said. Their announcement of Bernie's win wasn't very long. Mentioned larger than usual turnout.)

**sigh**

[kadaholo]

44. WAY TO GO WYOMING!

Way to go Wyoming! The entire country and world thank you!

[Rebkeh]

45. Let's go, Berners!

Thank you, Wyoming!

[RoccoR5955]

49. That's Bernmentum please! n/t

[azmom]

58. Bernie is the winner once again.

Fantastic News. Happy day!

[kennetha]

61. delegates 7-7

Bernie loses by tying

[NJCher]

71. Help me out here

Where are you getting this info?

Cher

[LiberalFighter]

126. The Green Papers is a good source.

Wyoming


Wyoming has only one district and is allocated 8 delegates.
They have 4 at-large delegates and 2 sports for Party Leaders and Elected Officials.

Total is 14 delegates. An additional 4 are unpledged delegates.


The results based on TGP is

156 state convention delegates for Sanders and 124 state convention delegates for Cilnton.

The calculated percentage is 55.7% (4.457 delegates) for Sanders and 44.2% (3.542 delegates). Numbers are rounded resulting in 4 delegates each at the district level.

Using the same formula based on 4 at-large delegates it is a 2-2 split.

For the 2 PLEO it is a 1-1 split.

Total for each -- Sanders: 7 -- Clinton: 7.


The total 280 delegates were allocated based on results at the county level using the proportional method. i.e. Albany had 33 delegates it could assign between Sanders and Clinton. Once they assigned all of the 280 delegates they used the above calculation to determine the number of national delegates each candidate would receive.

[gordyfl]

62. Hillary Won Natrona County

by 2 votes.

[oberliner]

81. No, she won by 2 delegates

20 county delegates for HRC to 18 county delegates for BS in that county.

[gordyfl]

91. I had read it on the Guardian

animated vote tally. At the time there was 95% reported (Overall). I would have sworn they used the word votes. Perhaps they should have used "delegate votes". Right after I posted it, I checked again and saw an article that said delegates. I knew someone would look into it here on DU.

[oberliner]

92. They only report delegate totals

Not raw votes.

[gordyfl]

100. Thanks

[LiberalFighter]

127. That can be confusing.

Another reason I don't like caucuses.

[cantbeserious]

64. When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go

eom

[cstanleytech]

73. Regardless which of them wins I wouldnt mind seeing a ticket with both of them on it one as

President the other as the VP.

[AgerolanAmerican]

76. Never happen

Sanders is not stupid enough to appoint someone so ambitious to be President as his VP, and is too principled to be her second.

[LenaBaby61]

148. Hillary Clinton's possible VP....

IF Hillary Clinton wins the Dem nomination, I'm hearing increasingly that she should choose the current Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julian Castro. He's extremely articulate, he and Hillary Clinton I hear get along very well, and he's done a great deal of campaigning for her. I've heard that he's slowly begun warming to the idea of a possible vice-presidency being offered to him by Hillary Clinton if she's the Dem nominee.

[cstanleytech]

151. I still believe to have the best chance at winning a ticket with both

Bernie and Hillary on it (I don't care which one takes the VP) would be the best one not to mention they both could balance the other out.

[Major Hogwash]

79. Liberals in Wyoming are ecstatic!!

As are liberals everywhere.

[OhZone]

83. Delegates tied!

OHYEAH!

[Walk away]

104. 7 and 7! I can't wait for NYS!!!!

[OhZone]

106. simply - OHYEAH! nt

[pallidin710]

85. Fantastic!

Great news on this rainy Saturday!

[George II]

86. BREAKING: Clinton gets 7 (actually 11) delegates, Sanders gets 7.

[MADem]

117. FEEL THE TIE!!!! FEEL the TIE!!!!!!! LOL!!!!

And, Hillary exceeds her target, again....and her opponent fails to reach his....again.

[Cryptoad]

125. No

and 8-6 split would have been a tie,,,,,,, feel the lost!

[The Green Manalishi]

89. Either of them would make a fine president. The competition is the PURPOSE of a primary

Part of the whole idea of a primary- bring out the weaknesses NOW when there is time for the machine (of the eventual winner) to come up with countermeasures *AND* to take out the novelty of any such revelations.

Sanders is only making Hillary stronger, and vice versa, because whoever wins is going to by definition have to face a dishonest, lying, backstabbing, duplicitous and power hungry asshole in the general (no matter who the Rethuglicans nominate).Senator Sanders is bringing in new voters, too. Yes, could be a bunch of sulking, disillusioned people who WON'T vote at all in the general if he is not the nominee, but there will be tens of thousands who DO, who would't have voted otherwise. Like a sparring partner, the primary opponent should throw every punch that needs to be prepared for.

Personally I like Bernie's policies better, but the worst that Secretary Clinton could do vis a vis SCOTUS or other appointments, etc, is orders of magnitude than the BEST we could hope for out of ANYONE the Republicans nominate. I'm a proud progressive and Sanders's message resonates with me, but SCOTUS, GLBT rights, AA issues, global warming and healthcare are going to be handled better by either possible Democrat than any possible Republican.

[cstanleytech]

98. Agreed, I just wish more people would realize the fact that both Hillary and Bernie would be a

far better President for the country than any of the Republicans running would be on their best day.

[tabasco]

93. So goes Wyoming.... so goes the rest of the nation!

Looking forward to an upset blowout victory in New York!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

101. ....must be the gun thing...

[eridani]

109. That actually won't happen until the next level.

That's when all the people who filed surrogate affidavits won't bother to show up, just like in Missouri and Nevada.

[TheFarseer]

122. He wins by double digits and gets less delegates

Fucking unreal! Tell me this isn't rigged.

[Deadshot]

131. Yeah, how in the hell does that happen?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

140. It's completely rigged.

[anigbrowl]

154. It's not rigged because the people were in different counties.

You could win with a huge majority in one county but that majority doesn't carry over to other counties. You're assuming that because the voting results across the state can be aggregated into a total for the whole state, that they should be used for allocating the delegates.

But in reality, candidates know in advance that delegates are apportioned on a county-by-county basis, and so they allocate their campaign efforts where they'll pay off best. Hillary's campaign may see that Bernie's support is so strong in one county that it's not worth spending a lot of resources there as there's no chance of her winning that delegate, so they concentrate their efforts in other counties where she's more competitive.

If you don't pay attention to the rules, then yeah it's confusing, but that doesn't mean it's rigged against you.

[TheFarseer]

155. You forgot to explain away the supers

Which the Hillary Victory Fund paid to pledge to Hillary as reported by numerous sources. Still not rigged?

[anigbrowl]

156. No I didn't

I pay little attention to superdelegates because pledged ones are the ones that matter at this stage. Personally I have no big problem with the superdelegate system and Sanders presumably knew it existed (and why it was put in place) before he declared his candidacy so it was up to him to come up with a strategy for dealing with them. They don't have any relevance unless nobody gets a majority by convention time,

[Deadshot]

130. He won the last seven states.

I hope the media quits telling everyone there's no chance on him winning the nomination. There's still over 1,000 delegates up for grabs.

[BeanMusical]

139. Kick and R

[Buzz Clik]

152. kick