Bernie Sanders Says ‘Something Is Clearly Lacking’ in Hillary Clinton’s Judgment

[TomCADem]

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Source: NY Times

NEW YORK — After a week in which the two Democratic presidential candidates questioned each other’s preparations and qualifications, Bernie Sanders on Sunday took aim at Hillary Clinton’s judgment, saying “something is clearly lacking.”

During talk show appearances, the senator from Vermont continued to zero in on Clinton’s acceptance of special-interest money, her support for the Iraq War and her past backing of international trade agreements.

“In many respects, she may have the experience to be president of the United States,” Sanders said during an appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “No one can argue that. But in terms of her judgement, something is clearly lacking.”

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During a separate segment on the same program, Clinton declined to criticize Sanders when asked by host Jake Tapper whether she has doubts about him. “No, I don’t," the former secretary of state said. "I don’t have anything negative to say about him.”

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/10/bernie-sanders-says-something-is-clearly-lacking-in-hillary-clintons-judgment/?_r=0

[onehandle]

1. Being million of votes behind makes him cranky.

The end is nigh.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

4. I love him being cranky! she deserves it in my opinion

Her decisions have been terribly wrong when it has matters most.

[TomCADem]

8. DU: Does Hillary have the temperament to be President? (Poll)

When Bernie gets mad, he gets cranky, which is adorable. When Hillary gets mad, she lacks judgment and the temperament to be President as the DU poll overwhelmingly demonstrates:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511698559

[anigbrowl]

13. Talk about putting the cart before the horse

No wonder you are using the confused smiley.

[Triana]

23. This isn't about his "tone"

"he's cranky" is another form of the "tone" argument. Why not directly address what he said? Because you don't want to or can't reasonably address what he said. So you resort to personal attacks about his "tone" in the form of "cranky" . Well played. But still: FAIL.

"The tone argument is a form of derailment, or a red herring, because the tone of a statement is independent of the content of the statement in question, and calling attention to it distracts from the issue at hand. Drawing attention to the tone rather than content of a statement can allow other parties to avoid engaging with sound arguments presented in that statement, thus undermining the original party's attempt to communicate and effectively shutting them down."

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Tone_argument

Instead of attempted distraction in re: his "tone" (ie: "cranky&quot why not tell us why her judgement ISN'T faulty for supporting the needless invasion & occupation of Iraq (where there were NO WMD bytheway) and for repeatedly supporting job destroying, trade-imbalancing free trade agreements even though they've all been disastrous for American workers?

[roguevalley]

24. apparently, onehandle, your gag reflex is higher than man. The idea of her vote

killing millions of children disqualifies her from getting my vote. Millions and millions of dead people in a long trail behind her. If revulsion for that makes Bernie 'cranky' (code for old by the way) then I guess I am too.

[JonLeibowitz]

2. As Usual, Bernie Sanders is correct.

[JohnnyRingo]

22. And as usual, Hillary is classy

I'm glad she responded that she has nothing negative to say about Sanders when prompted.

I understand that Bernie supporters think there's nothing bad she could say because he's p-e-r-f-e-c-t, but there's no reason for these knife in the back comments when we don't know who the candidate will be. Sanders may have to walk these statements back if he loses, unless he goes full asshole and backs another candidate to sabotage the party he now claims loyalty to.

[Satch59]

3. Smart of Hillary to take high road...

Let Bernie get crankier and more negative and keep claiming "she started it"...won't play well...and I mean "play" as a true game...

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. pretending to take the high road, while sending her surrogates out to dirty their hands instead.

[JohnnyRingo]

25. Tired of this meme

There's some notion among Bernie people that Hillary supporters hate Sanders' guts as much as they do Clinton. That's not true, and the greatest majority say they'll work as hard for Bernie as they would for Hillary if he comes out on top. We're Democrats after all.

Bernie supporters are the only ones who go so far as to say they'll not even vote Democratic if Clinton wins. I endured months of the most vile personal attacks on the front page that rivaled far right anti-Clinton sites, but the worst I ever read about Bernie was that he can't win the general. Berniacs acted like he was being accused of molesting schoolchildren.

Just what are these "surrogates" saying that remotely compares to the caustic trash that's thrown at Hillary every day of the week? Where's all this dripping hatred for Sanders' very existence that you claim? "Dirty hands" indeed.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

28. tired of that meme too. stick to the subject, and don't pretend you don't know how campaigns work

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clintons-campaign-unleashing-surrogates-204251020.html

[thereismore]

7. She is trying everything. The high road should have been the first thing to try. It seems to be her

last.

[stupidicus]

5. and her supporters appear to wholly support most of them

which is why they rely heavily on non-topical subject changes as opposed to confronting/challenging and rebutting the facts alleged or the conclusions they result in.

I suppose the reason for that varies, but dishonesty or ignorance are the two most likely causes and they aren't mutually exclusive.

[upaloopa]

14. Sorry if we don't respond to your made up facts. It is a waste of time

[stupidicus]

17. thanks for conceding the validity of my observations and accompanying remarks

but then that's pretty obvious to anyone not severely mentally challenged, as opposed to merely integrity-wise as noted

meanwhile, nobody cares if you wholly support HC's horrible judgement BS noted, or if you are merely ignorant about them

[revbones]

26. But apparently regularly replying without any substantive rebuttal is not... nt

[Thinkingabout]

31. Speaking of changing the subject, Sanders is very good at doing this, he is

Ask a question about foreign policy he turns to his financial statement.

[uhnope]

9. She failed the primary political test of the century & Sanders is right to point it out often

and yeah, supporting the war showed the worst kind of bad judgment...bad judgment is much too kind a word for it

[Spitfire of ATJ]

10. Her values are all wrong....

At least when it comes to who the government represents.

She's called Wall Street firms her constituents.

[beastie boy]

11. I wonder when Bernie will start backpeddling out of this one

like he did with his "not qualified" nonsense: “In many respects, she may have the experience to be president of the United States No one can argue that. But...”

I can just see his next big pronouncement: "In many respects her judgement may not be lacking. No one can argue that. But...."

He is running out of feet to shoot himself in.

[Surya Gayatri]

18. The guy can't help it. When he's talking about Hillary, the vitriol just bubbles up

from his angry, out-of-control id.

[upaloopa]

12. This from a guy who sat on his ass in Congress for 24 years and little to show for it

Bernie sounds like he is reciting focus group lines

He's loosing so he is throwing anything at the wall hoping something sticks

[ImaPolitico]

20. Cranky Bernie...

Source : Roll Call

VA issues

In recent years, Sanders has been criticized for his chairmanship of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee from 2013 to 2015, where he didn't act on government warnings about backlogs at VA medical centers until after it became national news. In a CNN town hall forum in New Hampshire, Sanders admitted, "We should have done better."

About his own interactions with the military, the Sanders campaign has confirmed that he applied for conscientious objector status during the Vietnam War, when he was a pacifist, although "[he] isn't now," Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs told ABC News in August 2015. His conscientious objector status was denied, the Burlington Free Press reported in 2006, but Sanders was too old to be drafted by the time his number came up anyway.


On the Hill

Sanders' famously inflamed demeanor on the campaign trail is part of what his supporters, fed up with America's economic system, like about his speaking-truth-to-power persona. But among some Democrats, there's lingering concern about that personality. "Bernie has never been known as a particularly collegial worker in Congress," Ridder said.

"He's gruff in private," Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said in an interview with Roll Call in October. A Vermont alternative newspaper delved into Sanders' "anger management," suggesting — based on conversations with anonymous former staffers — that he didn't always treat personnel well.


Not a sex scandal

Then there's Sanders' personal life, which he's accused the press of caring too much about at the expense of reporting on the issues.

"We have a culture in Vermont where that is very much off limits politically," said Franco.

The story of his son born out of wedlock is now well-known. Politico pushed the issue onto the national scene with a story last July titled, "Bernie Sanders Has a Secret." The New York Times has since caught up with Levi Sanders, now in his mid-40s, calling him the "constant witness" to his father's political journey and portraying theirs as a close father-son bond.

An illegitimate child may have been salacious at one point in American political history, but Sanders is running against a political last name synonymous with sex scandals.

"Look I get it, Bill Clinton is the former president, but there’s been no vetting of Senator Sanders' wife. She's not a casual spouse to a politician, she has been a top political adviser," said a strategist close to the Clinton campaign.

And she's not free from controversy. The New York Times reported that Jane Sanders resigned from the presidency of Burlington College for allegedly "overextending the college with a $10 million real estate purchase."

And this is not Sanders' first time in this position. "Hillary Clinton is not the first progressive Democratic woman to be challenged by Bernie Sanders," former Vermont Gov. Madeleine May Kunin wrote in the Boston Globe earlier this year. In 1986, when Kunin was up for re-election, Sanders ran as a third-party candidate against her.

"It’s dismissive," of course, his friend Franco said, referencing headlines that say Sanders can't win. "The other side of it," he added, is "be careful what you wish for and you may get it. I wouldn't want to have Donald Trump's coverage at this point, no thank you."

[Viva_La_Revolution]

32. link p!ease, so everyone can see your source

[IdaBriggs]

15. Maybe playing nice will get a pardon from President Sanders? nt

[anigbrowl]

16. I agree. She's being far too nice to Sanders nt

[Gregorian]

19. She shouldn't take it personally; 99% of Congress is lacking big picture concepts.

[pnwmom]

21. Yeah, she doesn't think a revolution is the solution. n/t

[liberal N proud]

27. He comes in to the Democratic party late and uses the resources then attacks long standing...

Democrats.

He is not a real Democrat, does nothing for the Democratic Party, now he is dead set on destroying the party.

[madaboutharry]

29. I wonder who is giving him the advice

that this is going to be the kind of thing that will be helpful to his campaign. Saying stuff like this says a lot about him.

[MisterP]

30. she's a neocon: in "Hard Choices" she thinks every foreign policy problem centers around Moscow

she backed Zelaya's ouster and fed Micheletti Millennium Challenge money because that'd thwart Venezuela which'd thwart Cuba which of course would thwart Russia's global move; she backS Libya and Syria because that thwarts Iran which thwarts--you guessed it--Russia

every strike action and autochtonous revolution was seen as the USSR's tentacles in its bid for WORLD DOMINATION and was treated as such, getting us into constant warfare around the globe while the actual Soviets just tried to keep things going back home

[Omaha Steve]

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