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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:51 AM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders Rallies 27,000 In Manhattan

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Source: Washington Post

NEW YORK -- It was one of the largest rallies in a campaign full of them, as what Sen. Bernie Sanders's campaign claimed to be more than 27,000 people crowded into Washington Square Park to hear the candidate speak. The presidential candidate, joined by his wife Jane, seemed taken by emotion when he saw the size of the gathering.

"Jane and I left New York City when we were kids – it is great to be back," said Sanders.

The venue, with the candidate framed under the iconic 124-year-old marble arch, resonated with the history of American protest. It had been packed before for gay rights rallies, anti-war marches, and protests after the death of a black Staten Island man named Eric Garner at the hands of the NYPD.

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Rival Hillary Clinton was far uptown and in a far different neighborhood Wednesday. She held a rally in Co-Op City, the huge 1970s cooperative housing development in the Bronx that is home to immigrants from nearly every continent. There were no famous faces apart from her own, and a public school chorus singing the national anthem was the only live entertainment.

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Bernie Sanders Rallies 27,000 In Manhattan (Original Post) Purveyor Apr 2016 OP
At last! Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2016 #1
Meanwhile on TV RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #16
I had mamoun's yesterday! We have an office at Astor Place. Lucky Luciano Apr 2016 #24
That 27,000 figure came from a Sanders press release. An independent estimate put it at 11,500. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #2
I attended the Bernie rally in Los Angeles at the Sports Center. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #4
a friend of a friend who is voting for Hillary said it was only 500 people near a big mirror tomm2thumbs Apr 2016 #10
But in 2007 Hillary said... tomm2thumbs Apr 2016 #12
. . . – – – . . . tomm2thumbs Apr 2016 #13
Was that chemtrail or two RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #17
I think the plane actually hit them tomm2thumbs Apr 2016 #21
Yes, the HRC estimate is 11500. Helen Borg Apr 2016 #14
That's not HRC's estimate. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #30
Well 27 does seem to be their go to number... HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #22
Obama had 24 thousand plus in NY MFM008 Apr 2016 #5
So what? Oh, I get it! Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #35
always to be remembered for what his surrogate called hillary, with his approval after the fact. nt msongs Apr 2016 #6
And what did this surrogate suposedly call her? BeanMusical Apr 2016 #9
Wrongo! hopeforchange2008 Apr 2016 #28
I'm just worried with Bernie leaving to go to Italy that he would be Duckfan Apr 2016 #7
Personally I think it will gain him votes. RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #19
So... how should he have LiberalElite Apr 2016 #20
He could have said Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #36
Cool! Kick and R. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #8
He's just being an opportunist deutsey Apr 2016 #11
More like 50,000 RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #15
Hey Rocco... choie Apr 2016 #26
I wasn't there. RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #27
It's not just his campaign "claiming" 27,000 - NYPD said 48,000 AND LiberalElite Apr 2016 #18
NYPD said 11,500 HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #23
NYPD said 48K Helen Borg Apr 2016 #32
Find a link anywhere from the NYPD to back that up? HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #34
Nader had a big crowd in NYC too. And he even charged admission. onehandle Apr 2016 #25
you're repeating yourself... choie Apr 2016 #29
You guys can keep believing the Clinton talking points but rynestonecowboy Apr 2016 #31
In the meanwhile... Helen Borg Apr 2016 #33
Im worried about her supporters reddread Apr 2016 #37
They may snap any day. Helen Borg Apr 2016 #38
We are pretty much ignoring the process. Darb Apr 2016 #39
Yep. #ImWithHer too. I don't watch any of the cable shows underthematrix Apr 2016 #40
Locking please post in GDP azurnoir Apr 2016 #41

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
1. At last!
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:12 AM
Apr 2016

Some positive media coverage.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
16. Meanwhile on TV
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:11 AM
Apr 2016

They only said "thousands." Not one said tens of thousands, because there were tens of thousands there.
When I saw Bernie under the monument, tears came to my eyes. That park is like an old home to me. We used to hang out there, play chess, play guitar, sing along with others, hold rallies, listen to poets. We would even go around the corner to Mamoun's Falafel, and get a falafel and a soda and sit in the park for lunch.

Lucky Luciano

(11,875 posts)
24. I had mamoun's yesterday! We have an office at Astor Place.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:43 AM
Apr 2016

Sometimes I will walk across the park to McDougal st for lunch. The nearest mamoun's to the office is on St marks though.

SunSeeker

(58,374 posts)
2. That 27,000 figure came from a Sanders press release. An independent estimate put it at 11,500.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:21 AM
Apr 2016

No one is providing a link for that 48k figure some on DU have been throwing around, and the 27k figure came straight from the Sanders campaign.

The only independent estimate I saw reported was 11,500:

Sanders held a rally in Washington Square Park, which was closed all day Wednesday at the request of the Secret Service. 6,500 people were estimated to be in the park for the rally with an additional 5,000 supporters outside the park for a total of 11,500.

http://abc7ny.com/politics/bernie-sanders-holds-big-rally-in-washington-square-park/1288865/

The rally was held at NYU, close to Sanders’s base. As is typical at Sanders rallies, most of the audience was young:

The crowd -- largely comprised of young people -- filled the park and crowded the adjacent streets. Many people -- visible from the windows -- also viewed the rally from apartments and New York University buildings surrounding the park.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/bernie-sanders-kicks-off-star-studded-massive-rally/story?id=38377917

The student population at New York University is 57,245. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University NYU is a huge University. So, I would imagine the bulk of the attendees were NYU students.




JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
3. I attended the Bernie rally in Los Angeles at the Sports Center.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:25 AM
Apr 2016

We stood in line for over an hour, and Bernie volunteers or staff came around and took our names. We filled out a form. I think the Bernie campaign's numbers are probably very reliable. They may know not just how many but who attended the rally. I'm just basing this on my experience at the Los Angeles rally some months ago.

They also sometimes do the cell phone thing where people call in on their cell phones. I don't know how that works because I don't have a smart phone.

Response to SunSeeker (Reply #2)

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
10. a friend of a friend who is voting for Hillary said it was only 500 people near a big mirror
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:59 AM
Apr 2016

and I think there was a chem trail or two

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
12. But in 2007 Hillary said...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 05:39 AM
Apr 2016

Back in November 2007, against then-Senator Obama

...Clinton tells CBS’ Katie Couric that SHE will be the Democratic nominee, and that the nomination will be sewn up by SuperTuesday...

And then...

(well, we all know what happened)

_____

Fast-Forward to 2016....

Jeff Berman, the Democratic front-runner's campaign’s consultant said he believes Hillary can effectively secure the Democratic presidential nomination as soon as the results from Super Tuesday are in.

But then...

...Robby Mook, her campaign manager, took the long view and declared the nomination would "very likely be won in March, not February".

But then...

... her campaign is now taking an even longer view, with April now being the month they hope to put Sanders away.

But then...



______________

Maybe that is why S.O.S. Clinton's logo is an arrow that keeps pointing ahead.... 'NEXT!!'
GOAL POSTS ANYONE????









tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
13. . . . – – – . . .
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 05:41 AM
Apr 2016

S.O.S.

hope they know morse code when the convention comes around



 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
17. Was that chemtrail or two
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:11 AM
Apr 2016

in your friend's head, or what?

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
21. I think the plane actually hit them
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:49 AM
Apr 2016

in the head

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
14. Yes, the HRC estimate is 11500.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 05:49 AM
Apr 2016

Shocking!

SunSeeker

(58,374 posts)
30. That's not HRC's estimate.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

Just like there weren't 48,000 people there. Nor even 27,000.

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
22. Well 27 does seem to be their go to number...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:05 AM
Apr 2016

$27 donations
27,000 crowd size

NYC police, whose job it is to estimate crowds and have adequate crowd control officers at the ready....they estimated 11,500. ABC News reported on it.

But y'know what? They say 27,000. Ok, whatevs...

MFM008

(20,042 posts)
5. Obama had 24 thousand plus in NY
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:35 AM
Apr 2016

and lost the state.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
35. So what? Oh, I get it!
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:04 PM
Apr 2016

msongs

(74,183 posts)
6. always to be remembered for what his surrogate called hillary, with his approval after the fact. nt
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:58 AM
Apr 2016

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
9. And what did this surrogate suposedly call her?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:43 AM
Apr 2016

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
7. I'm just worried with Bernie leaving to go to Italy that he would be
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:00 AM
Apr 2016

losing ground in NY. And he apparently won't get to meet the pope? I'm not so sure that is a good decision, though I realize it is a very prestigious invitation.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
19. Personally I think it will gain him votes.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:13 AM
Apr 2016

This is a once in a lifetime thing. They say that he is not meeting the pope, but that could change. One never knows.
If he does indeed meet the pope, that will most certainly bring at least 10% more votes.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
20. So... how should he have
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:13 AM
Apr 2016

turned down that invitation?

P.S. He has rallies scheduled in NYC on Sunday and Monday.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
36. He could have said
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

I'm currently in the middle of the New York state primary, which is of critical importance to me in my run for President of the United States. I'm sorry, but I'm sure you will understand.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
8. Cool! Kick and R.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:40 AM
Apr 2016

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
11. He's just being an opportunist
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 05:00 AM
Apr 2016

I mean, all those people are there in the park and, of course, he just has to show up and make a speech.



K&R

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
15. More like 50,000
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:05 AM
Apr 2016

That place is like my old home. Judging from the crowds, there was EASILY twice that and more, as people flowed out into the streets around the park. I have NEVER in my 61 years EVER seen the park that full. I have been to many rallies there in my lifetime, and seen the park jammed. NEVER has it been as jammed as it was last night.

choie

(6,991 posts)
26. Hey Rocco...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:02 AM
Apr 2016

(fellow Mike Malloy listener) I was there too - where were you located?

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
27. I wasn't there.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:12 AM
Apr 2016

I just know the place like the back of my hand. Used to hang out there back in the 70s all the time.
I can tell by the pics of the crowds, just what the crowds were.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
18. It's not just his campaign "claiming" 27,000 - NYPD said 48,000 AND
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:12 AM
Apr 2016

Clinton got 1,200 in a housing development where 70,000 live.

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
23. NYPD said 11,500
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:07 AM
Apr 2016

And they're in the business of estimating crowd size for safety reasons....but have at it. Enjoy!

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
32. NYPD said 48K
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:15 PM
Apr 2016
 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
34. Find a link anywhere from the NYPD to back that up?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:22 PM
Apr 2016

Because ABC News reported the NYPD said 6,000 within the closed perimeter of the park that Secret Service set up and 5,000 on the outer perimeter. I live in NY. I know that park very well. It's not big enough to hold 28,000 people. It's just not.

But you say 28,000? Ok, whatever....there are more important issues to disagree on.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
25. Nader had a big crowd in NYC too. And he even charged admission.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:43 AM
Apr 2016

President Nader's campaign went off without a hitch!

choie

(6,991 posts)
29. you're repeating yourself...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:15 AM
Apr 2016

Nader never won any primaries or caucuses, but keep on going...

 

rynestonecowboy

(76 posts)
31. You guys can keep believing the Clinton talking points but
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:08 PM
Apr 2016

it pretty obvious to anyone who has closely followed other campaigns that the Clinton campaign is increasingly nervous about her chances of sewing this thing up. If Bernie loses NY the narrative will be the same as it has been that he is done and should drop out to not hurt Hillary's image. If he wins the narrative will be that he ONLY won by a small margin and that the delegate math is still near IMPOSSIBLE for him to win. I'm interested in how they are going to spin it once it's obvious he will be the nominee?

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
33. In the meanwhile...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:16 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton looks and sounds more and more stressed out each passing day!

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
37. Im worried about her supporters
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

it has to be rough

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
38. They may snap any day.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:16 PM
Apr 2016

Imagine if the coronation does not happen!

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
39. We are pretty much ignoring the process.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:39 PM
Apr 2016

Heard enough of the bullshit from the Trumpies, the Cruzers, the bernies, etc. and are waiting for it to play out. We are not going to rallies. We are not going to see Hillary. We have heard all we need to hear. No more debates are needed. Just letting it play out.

No stress here. Not gonna snap.

Good luck with that meme.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
40. Yep. #ImWithHer too. I don't watch any of the cable shows
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:20 PM
Apr 2016

or listen to the daily dribble. However I do enjoy a funny read. Most of it is pretty silly. The MSM are treating this very important election like a reality TV show. The good news is I'm a registered voter and I vote in every election. Everyone in my family in NY is voting 4 HRC and the same is true for family in CA. So we're good

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
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Apr 2016

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