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Message auto-removed (Original Post) Name removed Apr 2016 OP
Oh ya right. lamp_shade Apr 2016 #1
Meanwhile at the Hillary campaign,,,, Geronimoe Apr 2016 #5
That was $15 M for DOWN TICKET Democrats, so we can have a Dem Congress. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #7
Ain't going to happen Geronimoe Apr 2016 #8
that and any Democrat PatrynXX Apr 2016 #35
Go back to your right wing troll site Democat Apr 2016 #38
well I wouldn't donate to Conservadems either PatrynXX Apr 2016 #33
If we followed your purity retrictions, we would never get a Dem majority. nt SunSeeker Apr 2016 #42
payback pangaia Apr 2016 #49
FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY Gomez163 Apr 2016 #43
Hillary would have made a campaign ad about it. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #20
Probably with kids PatrynXX Apr 2016 #36
Oh that Bernie. Zorro Apr 2016 #2
It wasn't political for the pope - OhZone Apr 2016 #3
A multi-million dollar political stunt. George II Apr 2016 #10
LOL nini Apr 2016 #4
Looks like Sanders groupie-stalked the Pope. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #6
I wonder how Bernie knew the Pope was going to be there? LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #19
LOL! The Pope lives there~~~~IMO the light complements Bernie quite nicely EvieM Apr 2016 #21
The Pope's travel schedule was widely reported - and told to Academy attendees. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #23
Stalking the Pope? LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #31
Not that he didn't want it to be. Here's EXACTLY what transpired, in the Pope's own words: George II Apr 2016 #9
Phoney baloney from CRUX Geronimoe Apr 2016 #12
Check the CBS report then, except for a word or two (probably due to translation), it was.... George II Apr 2016 #13
So what. sus453 Apr 2016 #18
20-hour round trip flight costing a million or two to "meet the pope"? I'd pass. I wonder... George II Apr 2016 #24
Roughly about the same amount... afertal Apr 2016 #28
He didn't go *just* to meet the pope, but he was hoping to have that opportunity while there. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #39
You wouldn't pass. 840high Apr 2016 #46
"We didn't want anyone to think this was political," Sanders said. salinsky Apr 2016 #11
The jaded Hillary supporters Geronimoe Apr 2016 #15
The FEC might want to know why Sanders paid for this "nonpolitical" trip with campaign cash. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #26
Well, it's two different questions... thesquanderer Apr 2016 #40
I'm sure Sanders will get another FEC warning letter to add to his collection. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #44
You got it, and absolutely NO SHAME whatsoever. All $$$$$, Craven Avarice and Greed. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #45
Then why did he tell the press? 33taw Apr 2016 #34
Maybe to shut up those who said there's no way he's meeting the pope... thesquanderer Apr 2016 #41
Awareness of drastic, rising wealth inequality and concentration recently has filled appalachiablue Apr 2016 #14
Oh, screw that! afertal Apr 2016 #32
I believe him thelasthope Apr 2016 #16
Bullshit. (nt) Paladin Apr 2016 #17
I wonder why Hillary fans seem so bitter. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #22
Just in case anyone tried to make it political... yallerdawg Apr 2016 #25
There issue is not whether the pope was meddling in politics beastie boy Apr 2016 #47
It's pretty obvious what Hillary's propaganda squad will say about this AZ Progressive Apr 2016 #27
I Saw the Pope in Toronto Canada gordyfl Apr 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #30
How is this LBN? Shouldn't this be in GDP? WhiteTara Apr 2016 #37
Locking tammywammy Apr 2016 #48

lamp_shade

(15,481 posts)
1. Oh ya right.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:24 PM
Apr 2016
 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
5. Meanwhile at the Hillary campaign,,,,
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton Snags $15M+ From George Clooney-Hosted SF & LA Fundraisers

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
7. That was $15 M for DOWN TICKET Democrats, so we can have a Dem Congress.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:50 PM
Apr 2016

Something Sanders has not contributed one dime to during his campaign.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
8. Ain't going to happen
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:59 PM
Apr 2016

The Clintons lost both Houses of Congress in the 90s. The American people will want the Republicans to oppose Hillary giving America away for pennies on the dollar. You'll have exactly the same grid-lock of the past 50 years. Each political party blaming each other as they pass K Street legislation.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
35. that and any Democrat
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

who gets tied to Hillary will likely lose it in November. I'd stay closer to Obama. You'll have Republicans out in droves locally.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
38. Go back to your right wing troll site
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:53 PM
Apr 2016

You sound like a Trump supporter.

No matter which candidate you support, attacking and bashing Democratic candidates is not the purpose of this site.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
33. well I wouldn't donate to Conservadems either
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:45 PM
Apr 2016

we want real Democrats in. something we should have learned during our drubbing in 2014 but I guess it takes more than one hand in the fire to lean our lesson. say when you say he hasn't contributed one dime what a load of BS. Neither has she. Her $$$$ donors have and nobody cares about them. The Rich fund the Rich. hence Rigged. Glad to see the pope is making things interesting. You just foolhardely fell for the argument Bernie is making. get money out.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
42. If we followed your purity retrictions, we would never get a Dem majority. nt
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:08 PM
Apr 2016

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
49. payback
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:33 PM
Apr 2016
 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
43. FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:10 PM
Apr 2016
 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
20. Hillary would have made a campaign ad about it.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:17 PM
Apr 2016

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
36. Probably with kids
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

all around her from SH . disgusting.

Zorro

(18,692 posts)
2. Oh that Bernie.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

Such a sincere liar.

OhZone

(3,216 posts)
3. It wasn't political for the pope -
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

but it was 100% political stunt for Sanders. IMHO

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. A multi-million dollar political stunt.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:03 PM
Apr 2016

nini

(16,830 posts)
4. LOL
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
6. Looks like Sanders groupie-stalked the Pope.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016

As the Pope described it:

"When I was leaving (Casa Santa Marta) Senator Sanders was there, he came to the meeting on Centesimus Annus, and he knew that I was leaving at that time, and he had the courtesy to greet me," Pope Francis said. "I greeted him and his wife and another couple that was with him."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/2016-elections-bernie-sanders-briefly-meets-pope-francis/

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
19. I wonder how Bernie knew the Pope was going to be there?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:16 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie is not putting himself in a good light with that tactic.

 

EvieM

(6 posts)
21. LOL! The Pope lives there~~~~IMO the light complements Bernie quite nicely
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:21 PM
Apr 2016

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
23. The Pope's travel schedule was widely reported - and told to Academy attendees.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:22 PM
Apr 2016

Looks like Sanders staked out the Pope's residence at 4 AM and cornered him as he was leaving for Greece.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
31. Stalking the Pope?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Not that he didn't want it to be. Here's EXACTLY what transpired, in the Pope's own words:
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:02 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/04/16/pope-francis-calls-sanders-greeting-only-common-courtesy/

This happened at approximately 4AM, Sanders just happened to be in the lobby in the middle of the night!

“This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there,” Francis said. “He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me.”

“When I came down, he introduced himself, I greeted him with a handshake, and nothing more,” the pope added. “It’s common courtesy, this is called common courtesy.
 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
12. Phoney baloney from CRUX
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

These are the people that gave us the fake stories about Saint Kim Davis's meeting with the pope.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Check the CBS report then, except for a word or two (probably due to translation), it was....
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:07 PM
Apr 2016

....an identical report.

sus453

(164 posts)
18. So what.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:13 PM
Apr 2016

If you had an opportunity to meet the pope wouldn't you?

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. 20-hour round trip flight costing a million or two to "meet the pope"? I'd pass. I wonder...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:26 PM
Apr 2016

...how many of the poor that he claims to be championing could have been fed with the money he frittered away on that trip?

 

afertal

(148 posts)
28. Roughly about the same amount...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:40 PM
Apr 2016

....as a few of Hillary's paid speeches.

thesquanderer

(13,006 posts)
39. He didn't go *just* to meet the pope, but he was hoping to have that opportunity while there.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:01 PM
Apr 2016

also, re: "round trip flight costing a million or two" - what's your source for that figure? Geek Tragedy said it's $100k for a charter flight to Rome, so assuming he flew that way both directions, it would be $200k. (Charter flights are for the plane, not per person.)

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
46. You wouldn't pass.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:31 PM
Apr 2016

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
11. "We didn't want anyone to think this was political," Sanders said.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:05 PM
Apr 2016
 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
15. The jaded Hillary supporters
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:07 PM
Apr 2016

think no decency exists, only the worship of the almighty dollar.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
26. The FEC might want to know why Sanders paid for this "nonpolitical" trip with campaign cash.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:34 PM
Apr 2016
The trip was organized and paid for by Sanders’ campaign.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-brings-family-trip-vatican/story?id=38416805

thesquanderer

(13,006 posts)
40. Well, it's two different questions...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

...whether the trip has a political component, vs. whether meeting with the pope was political. Either way, I guess you could report it to the FEC and see what they say, but since it was rather highly publicized, I suspect they know about it.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
44. I'm sure Sanders will get another FEC warning letter to add to his collection.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

He's already had to pay back donations. This trip must have cost 6 figures. They chartered a Delta Boeing 767 and he took his wife and 10 relatives, various campaign staff, a Secret Service detail and members of the press. And he staked out the Pope's residence with Jeffrey Sachs, who was lead speaker at the Academy conference and got Sanders the Academy invite. Jeffrey Sachs is the Sanders campaign "foreign policy advisor."

appalachiablue

(44,022 posts)
45. You got it, and absolutely NO SHAME whatsoever. All $$$$$, Craven Avarice and Greed.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

33taw

(3,343 posts)
34. Then why did he tell the press?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

thesquanderer

(13,006 posts)
41. Maybe to shut up those who said there's no way he's meeting the pope...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:06 PM
Apr 2016

...and that therefore he lied when he said he would. See? No lie. That's all. That doesn't make it political.

appalachiablue

(44,022 posts)
14. Awareness of drastic, rising wealth inequality and concentration recently has filled
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:07 PM
Apr 2016

the news this year and previously like the major reports issued by the Pew Research Foundation and the Davos summit to name just two sources. As well, major conferences and discussions sponsored by leading institutions like the Vatican, Oxfam and others have focused on this global danger and also pressing Climate Change around the world. For those who care at least.
It's the times, not the presidential primary campaign as Bernie's critics are want to think. Ssh, and get real. The Clooney's megabucks, posh CA fundraiser is a 'campaign opportunity' though, not the Vatican conference.

 

afertal

(148 posts)
32. Oh, screw that!
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

We don't need no stinkin' worldview! It's all about "US." (sarcasm)

 

thelasthope

(18 posts)
16. I believe him
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

I take Sanders' word for it

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
17. Bullshit. (nt)
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:12 PM
Apr 2016
 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
22. I wonder why Hillary fans seem so bitter.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:21 PM
Apr 2016

Is it because they were so damn sure (and hopeful) that Bernie wouldn't be meeting the Pope?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
25. Just in case anyone tried to make it political...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:31 PM
Apr 2016

Pope Francis says:

The pope told reporters about the meeting with Sanders in his own words Saturday, describing his greeting as simple "politeness" and denying that he was "meddling in politics."

"When I was leaving (Casa Santa Marta) Senator Sanders was there, he came to the meeting on Centesimus Annus, and he knew that I was leaving at that time, and he had the courtesy to greet me," Pope Francis said. "I greeted him and his wife and another couple that was with him."

"So when I went down, I said hello, a shake of the hand and nothing more," he continued. "This is politeness. This is called good manners, not meddling in politics. And if anyone thinks that to greet someone means to meddle in politics, then I suggest that they find a psychiatrist."

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
47. There issue is not whether the pope was meddling in politics
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:32 PM
Apr 2016

The question is whether Bernie dragged the pope into his politics.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
27. It's pretty obvious what Hillary's propaganda squad will say about this
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:35 PM
Apr 2016

gordyfl

(598 posts)
29. I Saw the Pope in Toronto Canada
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

It Wasn't political.

Not for me or the hundreds of thousands of attendees. I did not shake his hand or speak at a Vatican conference. I wasn't as fortunate , as Bernie, to be given that opportunity.

He was given the opportunity. He took it. Good for him!

I'm sure he is glad he went, regardless of the negativity coming from his opponents.

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WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
37. How is this LBN? Shouldn't this be in GDP?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
48. Locking
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:33 PM
Apr 2016
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