Clinton targets young voters with new fundraising group
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Source: Reuters
U.S. Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton launched a bid on Thursday to draw young voters and small donors to her campaign, targeting the strengths of her rival, Bernie Sanders, as she looks ahead to the general election.
Dubbed "for45" - for Clinton as the 45th president of the United States - the group will offer associate level membership for as low as $250, according to an invitation seen by Reuters for an April 25 Philadelphia event.
"We will have an opportunity to fundraise and host low-dollar events, speaking to what we are passionate about and why we support her," said Akilah Ensley, a 32-year-old Clinton supporter planning to join the group. "It's important that we engage."
The group held its "kick-off" conference call on Thursday, featuring the Clinton campaign's finance director, Dennis Cheng, other campaign officials, and actress Lena Dunham, according to an invitation to the call.
The group includes two other tiers, according to an information sheet seen by a "member" level with minimum fundraising of $2,500 and an "advisor" level for raising at least $10,000.
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-youngpeople-idUSKCN0XI2TB
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)The fix is in, as her cheating campaign has shown in so many states. Her real constituents are her corporate owners.
George II
(67,782 posts)Akicita
(1,196 posts)Why can't she just make an appeal to young voters to support her without the requirement that they pay her at least $250 to join the club? Everything about her seems to revolve around money.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)We must remember Hillary was young at one time, she had a few years to experience youth, knows the struggles.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)And bring more war in the process so the rest of us can be included in her plans as well.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)This talking point is not correct and it is worn out. Why not repeat over and over the fact she has worked hard in her life for the less fortunate. She does not need to work for the 1%, they have their needs met.
gordianot
(15,772 posts)$200 + eliminates all of those filthy kids who expect free stuff for $27.00 donations.
Dustlawyer
(10,539 posts)gordianot
(15,772 posts)I know quite a few that still reside at home. Those who made it out are paying off their life long debts. They do not owe these miserable politicians anything. The total lack of irony asking for this amount of money is stunning.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Edit- how are they even affording those devices at all?
Maybe smoke a little less weed?
Drink less at college?
I use an old flip phone that's 5 years old. Life is all about choices.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)HeartoftheMidwest
(309 posts)...their parents are paying for them. They work 60+ hours a week, to try to afford outrageously expensive, tiny apartments they share with other young people. Everything is hard for them, so as parents, we pay for their phones ( family plans help with the expense. )
They don't have the $250.00 to send to Hillary, but then they wouldn't.....they're all voting for Bernie.
adigal
(7,581 posts)Trying to pay off their students loans as the interest keeps rising, as my son's did last week.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Giving money to a rich lady to fund her personal ambition, or indulge in some small luxuries. You're not making a very strong argument here. I'd say the typical student is getting a lot more utility out of their smart phones.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)but she does it anyway. Self-serving, oops I mean self-sacrificing at its finest.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)We are all Americans.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Clinton's State Department declined to name Boko Haram a terrorist organization. The group could have been watched if designated a terrorist organization. No one knew where the girls were taken.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2623349/Hillary-Clintons-State-Department-refused-brand-girl-kidnap-group-Boko-Haram-terrorists.html
The terrorist even moved into Libya.
Support for the female students came from Michelle and Malala Obama-BringBackOurGirls movement.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)And their families.
glowing
(12,233 posts)I guess most people forgot 2008 campaign where she was shooting it up with her Dad and she didn't think people were "clinging to their guns and religions..."
She has also allowed for foreign countries to purchase arms at a greater rate than the Bush admin as SoS. Arming countries that have horrific human rights issues; especially for women. So, really she will say anything that polls well and triggers Americans emotions, but it doesn't have to be the truth.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Of compassion for the families who have lost loved ones to gun violence.
glowing
(12,233 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Voting to give immunity to one industry.
glowing
(12,233 posts)He has stated countless times that he doesn't believe that certain law suits should be allowed against a certain business for selling a legal product... NOW, if that shop owner is doing something that should raise everyone's red flag, yeah, sue away.. Kind of like the bar tender serving too much alcohol and the customer drunk driving, causing an accident.. yes, responsible.
Would you support people suing Budweiser? It is a known "bad" item. If drank too much, causes massive health issues, can cause dependency, impairs judgement when overly imbibed, has caused death for countless Americans, do they get sued? When discussing semantics of law and the nitty gritty details, it does matter.
So, say Bernie was President, and a House and Senate passed a bill banning assault rifles to be sold in America, then yes, he would sign the bill. No one goes hunting with an assault weapon unless they intend to hunt and kill other human beings, or in certain pea brains in America, it makes up for the size of one's dick being insufficient, kind of like jacked up trucks with those swinging nut sacks hanging off the tail hook, or because the gov'mint is coming for them and freedom or some such nonsense...
Many of our weapons, deadly assault riffles, end up in Mexico... Trade of weed for weapons. It is, for the most part, illegal to own guns in Mexico. So, our we produce weapons here, they move over the boarder to terrify locals and cause cartel war/ gang wars/ innocent people dying, and their police forces. In return, the Cartels move their product, mostly marijuana, into the USA. Could you imagine the amount of lives would be saved if we legalized marijuana in the USA? Could you imagine what it would mean to other people caught up at the border in this violence related to the Drug Wars, INC if assault weapons were illegal to purchase (other than military establisment approved for weapon procurement)?
AND no matter what, there will always be unstable people that reside among us. Limiting their access to assault weapons, high round clips that dispense lots of bullets without having to change out the magazine/ clip. Limiting maybe the amount of bullets one could purchase in a given year. Creating a real gun registration system and gun license for those who would like to own a weapon would make it easier for tracking and mandates that insist on gun owners procure a special gun license in order to own or purchase a weapon. A license would require taking gun safety classes and refresher classes every 5 yrs, insurance on the weapon in case you do f up and kill someone (there is monetary redress for your actions of killing someone), and that every gun is kept in a safe. I also think all new guns (especially hand guns) should be equipped with hand print access to allow the safety to come and for someway that the safety re-engages after a short amount of time when not being used to shoot. Using finger print technology programmed by a manufacturing specialist, should cut down child related gun accidents in the home.
When owning and maintaining a license and insurance, etc., becomes a highly regulated law AND weapons must be registered and updated upon any sale or inherited property, the database must be updated. A database should cut off the illegal gun sales from someone who is legally allowed to own a weapon and then sold to a criminal. If you want the awesome power of being able to kill someone so easily, then you should have to go through some hoops and loops to own those weapons. My sense is that gun ownership, in general, would decrease if a person had to maintain license, insurance, and register the weapons into a national gun tracking, govt maintained, tracking database. Most likely, only those with the tiny dick problems and people like my brother in law, who lives in VT, who hunt to help fill out the freezer, would be people who owned weapons... Many would just enter into a gun buy back from the govt, and get rid of the headache of the maintenance regarding firearms.
I bet Sanders would back something like that. We register our cars and have insurance and licenses; a gun should be looked upon similar to a vehicle. Regulate!!!! It would help to cut down on really shitty things. Regulate bullet buys. Regulate the types of items you can place on a weapon (like silencers - WTF does a normal, law abiding citizen need with a silencer?). Requiring safety classes would be a really good thing. Requiring insurance on a weapon or gun license would bring in an assorted number of extra requirements by the insurance company (this is a place where a corporation would help with gun safety and responsibility - they would require locked boxes, newest technology on finger print access to lift the safety - do a background check on who is living in the home with them and their ages and probably mental health... remember Sandy Hook killer stole his mom's weapons).
Standing on a political stage and evoking emotions works on people. It doesn't do a damned thing to fix the issue. AND seeing that she's shipped arms around the world and is the corporate candidate, I highly doubt she would push this issue and use any political capital in passing any meaningful gun regulations. Congress doesn't do a damned thing. They do pass the laws for the president to sign. So, saying she will be tougher is facetious at best, cynical at worst.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)The Brady Bill which was passed left the Charleston loophole, a short time frame to get the back ground check properly completed and if not the gun is sold, we know what happened in the Charleston case. I would accept registering weapons, providing liability insurance by the owners just as we have with vehicles. We also have liability insurance incase someone comes to you home and falls, a person can be sued, why can't homeowners and vehicle owners get immunity as with the gun industry. I would be happy to hear Sanders say his votes on these issues was not correct and he is willing to work on getting these laws reversed.
glowing
(12,233 posts)I think most people would be more than happy to insist on personal responsibility for a person owning a deadly weapon... Registration, licensing, and insuring oneself. These are pretty basic ideas for people who drive everyday. THE gun lobbying companies and the NRA are the agents against these types of regulations because it would drastically cut down on the amount of people buying weapons and cut down on manufacturing of weapons. This is why NOTHING is done in congress. They are on the take. This is why money in politics is bad. Most of America wants sensible gun regulation. AND believe me, anyone who is hunting to round out their freezer, is not your normal nutter, and do not mind having some responsibilities to make sure psychos aren't shooting up schools and movie theaters, that small children aren't accidentally shooting one another, or that guns aren't easily accessible to criminal elements (although, if those criminal elements couldn't kill one another with guns, I'm sure they would find other means to harm one another - at least by-standing innocents may be spared - gang violence changes by changing our drug laws and by increasing support into socioeconomic depressed areas via schools, programs, and JOBS that pay a real living with hope of upward mobility).
frylock
(34,825 posts)would have somehow helped to prevent Sandy Hook? Is that what you're contending?
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Saddam allowed no al-Qaeda in Iraq; no terrorist allowed there. So the US went in, shooting. Clinton voted to allow that. I do not believe that Iraqi families find that she has compassion.
Counting the Dead
http://childvictimsofwar.org.uk/get-informed/iraq/
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/03/2013315171951838638.html
Iraq: War's legacy of cancer
Two US-led wars in Iraq have left behind hundreds of tonnes of depleted uranium munitions and other toxic wastes.
more at link
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Back to the time Reagan was shot. Sanders voted FIVE times against the Brady Bill.
ananda
(35,141 posts)And now she's a corporate friend.
She will get my vote but absolutely nothing else.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)This appears to be a good link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Union_Party
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Sanders did, numerous times.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)And her whole career has been nothing but poor decisions.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)To one industry, who was Sanders listening?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)each politician naturally represents the interests of those who currently have a condition that the politician once also had.
That would indicate that every politician who was once poor, regardless of current financial condition, will 'work hard for' the interests of all currently poor people. This is generally contrary to observed reality.
I'm not trying to be mean to you here
- it's just that the OP is about the Clinton campaign courting 'young voters' who have, to this point, supported the candidacy of Bernie Sanders to a much greater extent then hers.
The proposition that Hillary Clinton was once young, just like everybody else currently alive and not young, and so, logically, considers the interests and needs of young voters just as much as people of any other age, is... dubious, at best. It's like asserting that, since, when she was young, she supported Barry Goldwater, she therefore values the perspectives of Republican voters as much as those of Democratic voters.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)getting her practice going, I would think she has experience as a young person, had the feelings of a young person. You could say she is an experienced young person.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,521 posts)and had experience and feelings as a young person. So that's a kind of pointless "credential." A lot of formerly young people are nasty old cranks who yell at young people to get off their lawns. Hillary and her mouthpieces have spent the last six months or so sneering at young people and calling them naive and foolish for wanting those ponies and unicorns because it's "unrealistic" to want genuine improvement in their lives. There is nothing about Hillary that seems sympathetic to young people in any way - she's one of those old people you can't even imagine being young because her attitude is so - old. And I say this as someone who's only a couple of years younger than she is.
When I was an undergrad I couldn't have come up with the then-equivalent of $250 to save my life, let alone to contribute to a political candidate who'd been sneering at me and my peers for the last six months.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)everyone's feelings. Speaking of nasty old cranks who yell at young people to get off the lawn, I don't like the same people shouting at anyone. Are you including Sanders as a nasty old crank?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,521 posts)for having a vision for the future, and tell them "No, we can't."
And yes, I am in a position to counsel young people; I teach at a university and therefore I'm in contact with them all the time. Since I actually see and communicate with ordinary young people who don't have $250 to throw at politicians I might have a pretty decent sense of what they're up against. The thing I've noticed the most is how worried they are about their futures and how tough it is to get any kind of a job.
gordianot
(15,772 posts)Parents help your young voters help Hillary.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Ooooookaaaaaay.....
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Red Knight
(704 posts)250 bucks is a LARGE donation for a lot of people.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)sarge43
(29,173 posts)Those people couldn't get a clue even if it followed them home.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,291 posts)People give an average of $27 to Bernie's campaign. Clinton's just proving the millennials' point (she's in cahoots with Big Money) when she says it takes a minimum of $250 to join her exclusive club. My guess is the result of her latest effort to "reach out to young people" will net her zero converts.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)And the whole proposition is... weird.
I'm certainly not young, and I've donated... a fair sum to Bernie's campaign. But I don't expect to get some kind of club membership or secret decoder card for my efforts.
Even if it was $20 to get you 'associate'-level 'membership,' it's something that the young people who have supported Bernie would would see right through. 'Give me a bit of money and you're in the club - and when you're in the club, you get the privilege of... being asked for more money and to get your friends to give money too!'
It's the sort of thing that only people accustomed to the 'adult-level' game of 'Bundlers, Lobbyists, PACs, Access!' would envision...
riversedge
(80,808 posts).....Steve Schale, a Democratic strategist in Florida who is not affiliated with the Clinton campaign, said for45 was a "smart way" to begin courting Sanders' supporters. He compared it with the "Gen44" group of young voters that supported President Barack Obama. ...................
Ruby the Liberal
(26,664 posts)That campaign honestly thinks that the people at Bernie's base have $250 burning a hole in their pocket, just looking for a politician to give it to? When their candidate charges more for a speech than many/most of them will make in a decade?
Awesome idea!
gordianot
(15,772 posts)Sanders is not responsible for this phenomenon but he uses it well. It is so reminiscent of early tea party delusional thinking.
BlueMTexpat
(15,689 posts)seems to include several people who have made one-time contributions that exceed the maximum $2700 allowable, so apparently these people have lots more than $250 burning holes in their pockets.
This has been an ongoing problem. There are also several others who have made several smaller contributions that total to more than the $2700 allowable. These also seem to have no problems finding cash.
Of course, the FEC must be in on the "conspiracy" ....
I know firsthand that some of Bernie's "millennials" have plenty of cash to burn on Bernie's behalf, largely because it is their parents and grandparents who were farsighted and fortunate enough to be able to set up trust funds to pay their college expenses for them. I also know firsthand that at least some of these see no irony whatsoever in that even though big bad Wall Street is the reason that they have that money to burn.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)I'm sure they'll find some couch cushion change to pile together after they've paid their student loans back in oh, 40 years.
sarge43
(29,173 posts)gordianot
(15,772 posts)ejbr
(5,892 posts)To dip into my trust fund or no?
rpannier
(24,924 posts)I think she or her advisors seriously missed something
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I bet they meant $25.00 was the starting point, not $250.0. You gotta give them a break on a typo, right?
rpannier
(24,924 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,976 posts)No one making $12. hr could afford that. That isn't low dollar. How out of touch can they be?
Vinca
(53,989 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I'm 36, and my wife and I make over $100,000 a year and live in a very expensive place to live. I can make ends meet and live halfway comfortably (as in I have a reliable car, can pay my bills without a problem, live in a modest house, and can take the family out to dinner once in a while), but I'm not living the "good life" by any means. I can't just throw $250 at a political campaign. I felt like I gave a lot when I donated $100 to the sanders campaign - and I feel like I can do more than most.
Where and who are these people?
pengu
(462 posts)They're so out of touch with normal people.
the group will offer associate level membership for as low as $250
What a deal! I think that's about the total I've scraped up for Sanders and I've been donating every month I could manage it. I think I've only missed 1 month since he declared (I was a first weekend donor). And I've MAYBE beat $250 by a little. Maybe.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Wow, more deafness.
Cobalt Violet
(9,976 posts)islandmkl
(5,275 posts)probably had to erase the comma and the other three zeroes on the first draft...
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)She thinks she's going to tap into the people donating to Bernie's campaign.
LS_Editor
(920 posts)Disgusting.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Anymore than "it's all about Obama" or "Kerry" or "Dean".
SammyWinstonJack
(44,316 posts)RATM435
(392 posts)Hey hillary i'm not a fucking walmart associate.
dr60omg
(283 posts)Sorry it just won't work. I guess Clintonites fail to recognize that young people are not going to be duped by someone who is both a neoliberal and a neoconservative
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)move on Hillary. They don't like you, they really don't like you.
bigworld
(1,813 posts)She thinks she's fighting for regular people, but she really doesn't interact with them at all except through focus groups or things she's read in the New York Times. She's completely lost touch with the common person.
Gamecock Lefty
(708 posts)Really?
I guess those were 80 year olds standing behind her cheering during her NY speech where she TROUNCED $27-per-person Bernie?
Newsflash: some of us older voters don't like Bernie and we're stronger in numbers than his texting diaper dandies.
bigworld
(1,813 posts)texting diaper dandies?
The polling shows that Hillary DOES have a problem with younger voters. Hopefully someone out there on her team is asking why and just not dismissing them like you did.
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)don't like her, most independents dislike her, and probably all Republicans hate her.
She doesn't have a chance if she wins the nomination.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I'm good for a c-note!
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)dembotoz
(16,922 posts)how brain dead absurd
I am sorry when your first response is to snicker......wtf is wrong with her
bluedigger
(17,437 posts)Hillary looks at her followers like a butcher sizes up a side of beef.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,521 posts)from which you can be dunned regularly for more contributions. Maybe you get a membership card and a free bumper sticker, too.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)I teach millennials at a community college who were devastated by Bernie's loss in New York and they claim the vote was "fixed" for Hillary.
She will have a tough time convincing them to vote for her.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I'll spread the word on the Tweeters.
tclambert
(11,193 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)It's about all the corrupt Clinton money.
Dumbest campaign ever.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Braindead. Low dollar? $250.00?? Low dollar for who? Not millennials, that's for fucking sure!!
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)You pay for membership and get nothing in return. Who is she taking advise from, the NRA?
Scion600
(3 posts)In 2020, it'll be "as low as $500."
In 2024, it'll be "as low as $1000."
In 2028, it'll be "as low as $2500."
And so on and so on, all the while poverty grows and grows and grows, and the young become angrier and angrier and angrier...
but keep those heads in the sand...
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)$250?!!!
Who the hell thought this was a good idea? Let's reach out to young voters by draining them even more with outrageous target level tiers.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)meanwhile 20 and 30somethings are racking up six-digit debt just to get a professional job while the uni milks them (oh, and bars the door to locals so they can exploit the Chinese and South Korean middle classes), have to delay surgery because their insurance sticks them with $1K copay and have to have MediCare pay for it, can't fix their car, work 60-90 hours, their parents can't retire AND are unemployable, their savings are an illusion, are trapped with 2-3 generations under one roof, and are looking at a job market that's been drained to China and India (oh, and you're called racist for pointing that out)
U.S. Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton launched a bid on Thursday to draw young voters and small donors to her campaign, targeting the strengths of her rival, Bernie Sanders, as she looks ahead to the general election.
Dubbed "for45" - for Clinton as the 45th president of the United States - the group will offer associate level membership for as low as $250, according to an invitation seen by Reuters for an April 25 Philadelphia event.
You're doing it wrong.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)It is the consensus of the hosts that this is better suited for GDP.