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Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:50 AM Apr 2016

Clinton targets young voters with new fundraising group

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by etherealtruth (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Reuters

U.S. Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton launched a bid on Thursday to draw young voters and small donors to her campaign, targeting the strengths of her rival, Bernie Sanders, as she looks ahead to the general election.

Dubbed "for45" - for Clinton as the 45th president of the United States - the group will offer associate level membership for as low as $250, according to an invitation seen by Reuters for an April 25 Philadelphia event.

"We will have an opportunity to fundraise and host low-dollar events, speaking to what we are passionate about and why we support her," said Akilah Ensley, a 32-year-old Clinton supporter planning to join the group. "It's important that we engage."

The group held its "kick-off" conference call on Thursday, featuring the Clinton campaign's finance director, Dennis Cheng, other campaign officials, and actress Lena Dunham, according to an invitation to the call.

The group includes two other tiers, according to an information sheet seen by a "member" level with minimum fundraising of $2,500 and an "advisor" level for raising at least $10,000.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-youngpeople-idUSKCN0XI2TB



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Clinton targets young voters with new fundraising group (Original Post) Lodestar Apr 2016 OP
Dog and pony, fig leaf, token effort Android3.14 Apr 2016 #1
But when Sanders does it it's "attracting new voters" (who don't vote anyway)? George II Apr 2016 #94
Why does everything have to revolve around fundraising with her? Akicita Apr 2016 #101
Hillary does not exclude any age group and will work hard for every age group. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #2
She'll work hard for the 1-percenters in every age group Android3.14 Apr 2016 #4
This is a wrong talking point, she has advocated for children for a very long time. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #6
Worn out and inconvenient I agree and actually an excellent point. gordianot Apr 2016 #8
How many young people can afford to pay $250? Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #40
None that I know personally. gordianot Apr 2016 #43
How are they affording the newest iphones or samsungs every year? KittyWampus Apr 2016 #66
Smoke a little less weed. That's the ticket. I think you just captured the Millennial vote. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #71
Well, I know how three young people are affording their smartphones..... HeartoftheMidwest Apr 2016 #93
Agreed. Every person under 30 who I know is working 50 to 60 hours a week. adigal Apr 2016 #99
Yes, life is all about choices Bradical79 Apr 2016 #95
She doesn't "need" to work for the 1% LiberalElite Apr 2016 #16
She works harder for those who are not in the 1%, yes she should be everyones advocate Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #23
She worked for this group of female students, or young persons, in a negative way. DhhD Apr 2016 #14
Oh, really, she does work and have great compassion for victims of gun violence Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #25
Maybe if it's convenient to in this country for political expediency... glowing Apr 2016 #30
Did i say any thing about getting rid of all of the guns? The problem is the lack Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #47
ARE you kidding me? Who doesn't have compassion for murdered victims? glowing Apr 2016 #51
Seems evident to me, Sanders still has not faced the facts of voting against sensible gun bills, Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #52
He believes that automatic weapons should be illegal... glowing Apr 2016 #64
Believing automatic weapons, especially military style weapons should be banned is a good thing. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #77
Actually, passing meaningful regulations that would work seems like a far off dream... glowing Apr 2016 #82
And people going bankrupt by filing losing suits against gun manufacturers.. frylock Apr 2016 #74
Figures on compassion for Iraqi children killed and injured in the Bush Privatiztion of Iraq. DhhD Apr 2016 #36
The eighty people killed daily by gun violence, add them up, just go Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #48
She was a Goldwater girl. ananda Apr 2016 #20
She never was a member if the Liberty Union Party. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #26
I had to look that up. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #75
Interesting huh. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #78
At least she never ran for office on the platform of seizing Rockefeller property. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #68
Hard work doesn't mean anything if you're judgment sucks. Dawgs Apr 2016 #45
Yes like judgement to vote against the Brady Bill and vote to give it mmunity Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #49
Sort of like Bernie voting against the Brady Bill leftofcool Apr 2016 #55
So... by your logic, RiverNoord Apr 2016 #72
The point is Hillary was a young 20 year old at one time, she was a young attorney at one time Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #76
Everybody who isn't young now was once young The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #80
Would you consider yourself in a position of counseling young people? If not, this is not, not Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #84
No. Nasty old cranks are people who demean young people The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #86
Just what your average undergraduate has laying around the dorm, cash. gordianot Apr 2016 #3
"As low as $250." SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #5
literally the funniest line of this whole OP. nt retrowire Apr 2016 #9
Shows how out of touch she is Red Knight Apr 2016 #10
I've NEVER given more than $100 at a time, and I'm not exactly a poor student. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #69
Isn't that about a week's wages at minimum wage? (40 hour week, if they're lucky.) sarge43 Apr 2016 #11
If they want young people to join up, then make the entry fee low LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2016 #60
It's all a sham, just a publicity stunt. If they get some money out of it so much the better. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #87
Yeah, that's a winner... RiverNoord Apr 2016 #73
I think it is a wise move also... riversedge Apr 2016 #7
How incredibly tone deaf Ruby the Liberal Apr 2016 #12
Those promoting Hillary including former progressives have lost all sense of irony. gordianot Apr 2016 #18
Per the FEC, Bernie's base BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #27
Some obviously have too much according to the FEC leftofcool Apr 2016 #56
Good Luck a$&&h$!? billhicks76 Apr 2016 #13
This is a joke, right? The Onion? LiberalElite Apr 2016 #15
"Some of these jokes write themselves," Dave Letterman n/t sarge43 Apr 2016 #17
That was my first take a stupid joke, go up thread they were serious gordianot Apr 2016 #19
Tough sell ejbr Apr 2016 #21
250.00 is the start rpannier Apr 2016 #22
Maybe it was a typo and they put the decimal in the wrong place? Victor_c3 Apr 2016 #31
Wish it were a typo rpannier Apr 2016 #32
wow just wow. Must be for young people with trust funds. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #24
It's a good illustration of how totally removed from "average" people she is. Vinca Apr 2016 #28
who has $250 laying to donate to a candidate? Victor_c3 Apr 2016 #29
Hahahahahahaha pengu Apr 2016 #33
So this is the way she courts Sanders supporters? davidpdx Apr 2016 #34
Her base is the " Have Mores". She just doesn't come out an say it like Bush did. n/t Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #35
Hillary just can't help herself....there just HAD to be at least ONE ZERO on the end of the amount.. islandmkl Apr 2016 #37
Sigh. deutsey Apr 2016 #38
new young Hillary contributor: "Mom, can i have $250.... islandmkl Apr 2016 #39
Isn't that precious! Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #41
Once again, it's all about her. for45? LS_Editor Apr 2016 #42
Yep. Thought it was a joke when I saw the name they choice. Dawgs Apr 2016 #44
Excuse me? It's a presidential election. Funny how the "it's all about Sanders" gets flown KittyWampus Apr 2016 #67
HUGE EGO! Quite disgusting . SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #98
This is pure orwellian corporate speak . RATM435 Apr 2016 #46
That won't work dr60omg Apr 2016 #50
Young voters hate her. 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #53
I'm not anti-Hillary; I rather like her. But she's completely distanced herself from the real world bigworld Apr 2016 #54
Young voters hate her? Gamecock Lefty Apr 2016 #57
Nice attitude. bigworld Apr 2016 #59
Young people don't like her, many Democrats nyabingi Apr 2016 #58
Are you taking bets yet? snooper2 Apr 2016 #81
Better save that to go with the other $150 so you can be an ASSociate! Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #88
so its called for 45 and entry level is not $45????????????????????????????????????????????????????? dembotoz Apr 2016 #61
What is she offering in exchange? bluedigger Apr 2016 #62
You get the privilege of being on a special email list The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #85
Clinton is such a phony. Can't you tell? Gregorian Apr 2016 #63
Good luck with that! Nedsdag Apr 2016 #65
This is super-cool and off the hook. We youths are going to love it. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #70
Is she going to accept donations in bitcoins? tclambert Apr 2016 #79
Don't you need to spend $250 on buying $250 worth of bitcoins? Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #90
Hey Camp Weathervane...it's not about age... SoapBox Apr 2016 #83
"We will have an opportunity to fundraise and host low-dollar events" Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #89
Is this liike Trump University? Geronimoe Apr 2016 #91
"As low as $250????????" Scion600 Apr 2016 #92
What happened to that $1 she wanted from Maddi??? Kittycat Apr 2016 #96
the tiers are $250, $2,500, and $10,000 and the headliner's the liberish girl version of the Duggars MisterP Apr 2016 #97
LOL Kall Apr 2016 #100
I am sorry, LOCKING etherealtruth Apr 2016 #102
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
1. Dog and pony, fig leaf, token effort
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:53 AM
Apr 2016

The fix is in, as her cheating campaign has shown in so many states. Her real constituents are her corporate owners.

George II

(67,782 posts)
94. But when Sanders does it it's "attracting new voters" (who don't vote anyway)?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
101. Why does everything have to revolve around fundraising with her?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

Why can't she just make an appeal to young voters to support her without the requirement that they pay her at least $250 to join the club? Everything about her seems to revolve around money.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Hillary does not exclude any age group and will work hard for every age group.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:54 AM
Apr 2016

We must remember Hillary was young at one time, she had a few years to experience youth, knows the struggles.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
4. She'll work hard for the 1-percenters in every age group
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:56 AM
Apr 2016

And bring more war in the process so the rest of us can be included in her plans as well.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. This is a wrong talking point, she has advocated for children for a very long time.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:04 AM
Apr 2016

This talking point is not correct and it is worn out. Why not repeat over and over the fact she has worked hard in her life for the less fortunate. She does not need to work for the 1%, they have their needs met.

gordianot

(15,772 posts)
8. Worn out and inconvenient I agree and actually an excellent point.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:15 AM
Apr 2016

$200 + eliminates all of those filthy kids who expect free stuff for $27.00 donations.

Dustlawyer

(10,539 posts)
40. How many young people can afford to pay $250?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:27 AM
Apr 2016

gordianot

(15,772 posts)
43. None that I know personally.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:50 AM
Apr 2016

I know quite a few that still reside at home. Those who made it out are paying off their life long debts. They do not owe these miserable politicians anything. The total lack of irony asking for this amount of money is stunning.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
66. How are they affording the newest iphones or samsungs every year?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:20 AM
Apr 2016

Edit- how are they even affording those devices at all?

Maybe smoke a little less weed?

Drink less at college?

I use an old flip phone that's 5 years old. Life is all about choices.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
71. Smoke a little less weed. That's the ticket. I think you just captured the Millennial vote.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:29 AM
Apr 2016

HeartoftheMidwest

(309 posts)
93. Well, I know how three young people are affording their smartphones.....
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:02 PM
Apr 2016

...their parents are paying for them. They work 60+ hours a week, to try to afford outrageously expensive, tiny apartments they share with other young people. Everything is hard for them, so as parents, we pay for their phones ( family plans help with the expense. )
They don't have the $250.00 to send to Hillary, but then they wouldn't.....they're all voting for Bernie.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
99. Agreed. Every person under 30 who I know is working 50 to 60 hours a week.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

Trying to pay off their students loans as the interest keeps rising, as my son's did last week.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
95. Yes, life is all about choices
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:22 PM
Apr 2016

Giving money to a rich lady to fund her personal ambition, or indulge in some small luxuries. You're not making a very strong argument here. I'd say the typical student is getting a lot more utility out of their smart phones.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
16. She doesn't "need" to work for the 1%
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:33 AM
Apr 2016

but she does it anyway. Self-serving, oops I mean self-sacrificing at its finest.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
23. She works harder for those who are not in the 1%, yes she should be everyones advocate
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:50 AM
Apr 2016

We are all Americans.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
14. She worked for this group of female students, or young persons, in a negative way.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:28 AM
Apr 2016

Clinton's State Department declined to name Boko Haram a terrorist organization. The group could have been watched if designated a terrorist organization. No one knew where the girls were taken.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2623349/Hillary-Clintons-State-Department-refused-brand-girl-kidnap-group-Boko-Haram-terrorists.html


The terrorist even moved into Libya.

Support for the female students came from Michelle and Malala Obama-BringBackOurGirls movement.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
25. Oh, really, she does work and have great compassion for victims of gun violence
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:52 AM
Apr 2016

And their families.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
30. Maybe if it's convenient to in this country for political expediency...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:02 AM
Apr 2016

I guess most people forgot 2008 campaign where she was shooting it up with her Dad and she didn't think people were "clinging to their guns and religions..."

She has also allowed for foreign countries to purchase arms at a greater rate than the Bush admin as SoS. Arming countries that have horrific human rights issues; especially for women. So, really she will say anything that polls well and triggers Americans emotions, but it doesn't have to be the truth.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
47. Did i say any thing about getting rid of all of the guns? The problem is the lack
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:04 AM
Apr 2016

Of compassion for the families who have lost loved ones to gun violence.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
51. ARE you kidding me? Who doesn't have compassion for murdered victims?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:11 AM
Apr 2016

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
52. Seems evident to me, Sanders still has not faced the facts of voting against sensible gun bills,
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:14 AM
Apr 2016

Voting to give immunity to one industry.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
64. He believes that automatic weapons should be illegal...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:12 AM
Apr 2016

He has stated countless times that he doesn't believe that certain law suits should be allowed against a certain business for selling a legal product... NOW, if that shop owner is doing something that should raise everyone's red flag, yeah, sue away.. Kind of like the bar tender serving too much alcohol and the customer drunk driving, causing an accident.. yes, responsible.

Would you support people suing Budweiser? It is a known "bad" item. If drank too much, causes massive health issues, can cause dependency, impairs judgement when overly imbibed, has caused death for countless Americans, do they get sued? When discussing semantics of law and the nitty gritty details, it does matter.

So, say Bernie was President, and a House and Senate passed a bill banning assault rifles to be sold in America, then yes, he would sign the bill. No one goes hunting with an assault weapon unless they intend to hunt and kill other human beings, or in certain pea brains in America, it makes up for the size of one's dick being insufficient, kind of like jacked up trucks with those swinging nut sacks hanging off the tail hook, or because the gov'mint is coming for them and freedom or some such nonsense...

Many of our weapons, deadly assault riffles, end up in Mexico... Trade of weed for weapons. It is, for the most part, illegal to own guns in Mexico. So, our we produce weapons here, they move over the boarder to terrify locals and cause cartel war/ gang wars/ innocent people dying, and their police forces. In return, the Cartels move their product, mostly marijuana, into the USA. Could you imagine the amount of lives would be saved if we legalized marijuana in the USA? Could you imagine what it would mean to other people caught up at the border in this violence related to the Drug Wars, INC if assault weapons were illegal to purchase (other than military establisment approved for weapon procurement)?

AND no matter what, there will always be unstable people that reside among us. Limiting their access to assault weapons, high round clips that dispense lots of bullets without having to change out the magazine/ clip. Limiting maybe the amount of bullets one could purchase in a given year. Creating a real gun registration system and gun license for those who would like to own a weapon would make it easier for tracking and mandates that insist on gun owners procure a special gun license in order to own or purchase a weapon. A license would require taking gun safety classes and refresher classes every 5 yrs, insurance on the weapon in case you do f up and kill someone (there is monetary redress for your actions of killing someone), and that every gun is kept in a safe. I also think all new guns (especially hand guns) should be equipped with hand print access to allow the safety to come and for someway that the safety re-engages after a short amount of time when not being used to shoot. Using finger print technology programmed by a manufacturing specialist, should cut down child related gun accidents in the home.

When owning and maintaining a license and insurance, etc., becomes a highly regulated law AND weapons must be registered and updated upon any sale or inherited property, the database must be updated. A database should cut off the illegal gun sales from someone who is legally allowed to own a weapon and then sold to a criminal. If you want the awesome power of being able to kill someone so easily, then you should have to go through some hoops and loops to own those weapons. My sense is that gun ownership, in general, would decrease if a person had to maintain license, insurance, and register the weapons into a national gun tracking, govt maintained, tracking database. Most likely, only those with the tiny dick problems and people like my brother in law, who lives in VT, who hunt to help fill out the freezer, would be people who owned weapons... Many would just enter into a gun buy back from the govt, and get rid of the headache of the maintenance regarding firearms.

I bet Sanders would back something like that. We register our cars and have insurance and licenses; a gun should be looked upon similar to a vehicle. Regulate!!!! It would help to cut down on really shitty things. Regulate bullet buys. Regulate the types of items you can place on a weapon (like silencers - WTF does a normal, law abiding citizen need with a silencer?). Requiring safety classes would be a really good thing. Requiring insurance on a weapon or gun license would bring in an assorted number of extra requirements by the insurance company (this is a place where a corporation would help with gun safety and responsibility - they would require locked boxes, newest technology on finger print access to lift the safety - do a background check on who is living in the home with them and their ages and probably mental health... remember Sandy Hook killer stole his mom's weapons).

Standing on a political stage and evoking emotions works on people. It doesn't do a damned thing to fix the issue. AND seeing that she's shipped arms around the world and is the corporate candidate, I highly doubt she would push this issue and use any political capital in passing any meaningful gun regulations. Congress doesn't do a damned thing. They do pass the laws for the president to sign. So, saying she will be tougher is facetious at best, cynical at worst.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
77. Believing automatic weapons, especially military style weapons should be banned is a good thing.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:35 AM
Apr 2016

The Brady Bill which was passed left the Charleston loophole, a short time frame to get the back ground check properly completed and if not the gun is sold, we know what happened in the Charleston case. I would accept registering weapons, providing liability insurance by the owners just as we have with vehicles. We also have liability insurance incase someone comes to you home and falls, a person can be sued, why can't homeowners and vehicle owners get immunity as with the gun industry. I would be happy to hear Sanders say his votes on these issues was not correct and he is willing to work on getting these laws reversed.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
82. Actually, passing meaningful regulations that would work seems like a far off dream...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

I think most people would be more than happy to insist on personal responsibility for a person owning a deadly weapon... Registration, licensing, and insuring oneself. These are pretty basic ideas for people who drive everyday. THE gun lobbying companies and the NRA are the agents against these types of regulations because it would drastically cut down on the amount of people buying weapons and cut down on manufacturing of weapons. This is why NOTHING is done in congress. They are on the take. This is why money in politics is bad. Most of America wants sensible gun regulation. AND believe me, anyone who is hunting to round out their freezer, is not your normal nutter, and do not mind having some responsibilities to make sure psychos aren't shooting up schools and movie theaters, that small children aren't accidentally shooting one another, or that guns aren't easily accessible to criminal elements (although, if those criminal elements couldn't kill one another with guns, I'm sure they would find other means to harm one another - at least by-standing innocents may be spared - gang violence changes by changing our drug laws and by increasing support into socioeconomic depressed areas via schools, programs, and JOBS that pay a real living with hope of upward mobility).

frylock

(34,825 posts)
74. And people going bankrupt by filing losing suits against gun manufacturers..
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

would have somehow helped to prevent Sandy Hook? Is that what you're contending?

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
36. Figures on compassion for Iraqi children killed and injured in the Bush Privatiztion of Iraq.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:21 AM
Apr 2016

Saddam allowed no al-Qaeda in Iraq; no terrorist allowed there. So the US went in, shooting. Clinton voted to allow that. I do not believe that Iraqi families find that she has compassion.

Counting the Dead
http://childvictimsofwar.org.uk/get-informed/iraq/


http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/03/2013315171951838638.html
Iraq: War's legacy of cancer
Two US-led wars in Iraq have left behind hundreds of tonnes of depleted uranium munitions and other toxic wastes.
more at link

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
48. The eighty people killed daily by gun violence, add them up, just go
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:06 AM
Apr 2016

Back to the time Reagan was shot. Sanders voted FIVE times against the Brady Bill.

ananda

(35,141 posts)
20. She was a Goldwater girl.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:42 AM
Apr 2016

And now she's a corporate friend.

She will get my vote but absolutely nothing else.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
26. She never was a member if the Liberty Union Party.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:53 AM
Apr 2016

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
75. I had to look that up.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:12 AM
Apr 2016

This appears to be a good link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Union_Party

Senator Bernie Sanders, a self described democratic socialist and 2016 candidate for US President in the Democratic Primary, joined Liberty Union in 1971. Sanders was a candidate for several offices on their ticket before deciding to run as an independent. He was their US Senate candidate in a special US Senator race in 1971 nominated at the first meeting he attended. At the January 1972 election, Sanders took third with 2% of the vote.[8] Sanders was the party's candidate for Vermont governor in 1976 where he received 6.1% of the vote. At the time of his resignation from the party in October 1977, he was party chairman.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
78. Interesting huh.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:36 AM
Apr 2016
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
68. At least she never ran for office on the platform of seizing Rockefeller property.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders did, numerous times.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
45. Hard work doesn't mean anything if you're judgment sucks.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:53 AM
Apr 2016

And her whole career has been nothing but poor decisions.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
49. Yes like judgement to vote against the Brady Bill and vote to give it mmunity
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:08 AM
Apr 2016

To one industry, who was Sanders listening?

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
55. Sort of like Bernie voting against the Brady Bill
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:23 AM
Apr 2016
 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
72. So... by your logic,
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:31 AM
Apr 2016

each politician naturally represents the interests of those who currently have a condition that the politician once also had.

That would indicate that every politician who was once poor, regardless of current financial condition, will 'work hard for' the interests of all currently poor people. This is generally contrary to observed reality.

I'm not trying to be mean to you here - it's just that the OP is about the Clinton campaign courting 'young voters' who have, to this point, supported the candidacy of Bernie Sanders to a much greater extent then hers.

The proposition that Hillary Clinton was once young, just like everybody else currently alive and not young, and so, logically, considers the interests and needs of young voters just as much as people of any other age, is... dubious, at best. It's like asserting that, since, when she was young, she supported Barry Goldwater, she therefore values the perspectives of Republican voters as much as those of Democratic voters.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
76. The point is Hillary was a young 20 year old at one time, she was a young attorney at one time
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:29 AM
Apr 2016

getting her practice going, I would think she has experience as a young person, had the feelings of a young person. You could say she is an experienced young person.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,521 posts)
80. Everybody who isn't young now was once young
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:00 PM
Apr 2016

and had experience and feelings as a young person. So that's a kind of pointless "credential." A lot of formerly young people are nasty old cranks who yell at young people to get off their lawns. Hillary and her mouthpieces have spent the last six months or so sneering at young people and calling them naive and foolish for wanting those ponies and unicorns because it's "unrealistic" to want genuine improvement in their lives. There is nothing about Hillary that seems sympathetic to young people in any way - she's one of those old people you can't even imagine being young because her attitude is so - old. And I say this as someone who's only a couple of years younger than she is.

When I was an undergrad I couldn't have come up with the then-equivalent of $250 to save my life, let alone to contribute to a political candidate who'd been sneering at me and my peers for the last six months.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
84. Would you consider yourself in a position of counseling young people? If not, this is not, not
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:15 PM
Apr 2016

everyone's feelings. Speaking of nasty old cranks who yell at young people to get off the lawn, I don't like the same people shouting at anyone. Are you including Sanders as a nasty old crank?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,521 posts)
86. No. Nasty old cranks are people who demean young people
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:17 PM
Apr 2016

for having a vision for the future, and tell them "No, we can't."

And yes, I am in a position to counsel young people; I teach at a university and therefore I'm in contact with them all the time. Since I actually see and communicate with ordinary young people who don't have $250 to throw at politicians I might have a pretty decent sense of what they're up against. The thing I've noticed the most is how worried they are about their futures and how tough it is to get any kind of a job.

gordianot

(15,772 posts)
3. Just what your average undergraduate has laying around the dorm, cash.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:55 AM
Apr 2016

Parents help your young voters help Hillary.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
5. "As low as $250."
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:00 AM
Apr 2016

Ooooookaaaaaay.....

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
9. literally the funniest line of this whole OP. nt
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:20 AM
Apr 2016

Red Knight

(704 posts)
10. Shows how out of touch she is
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:21 AM
Apr 2016

250 bucks is a LARGE donation for a lot of people.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
69. I've NEVER given more than $100 at a time, and I'm not exactly a poor student.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:27 AM
Apr 2016

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
11. Isn't that about a week's wages at minimum wage? (40 hour week, if they're lucky.)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:24 AM
Apr 2016

Those people couldn't get a clue even if it followed them home.

60. If they want young people to join up, then make the entry fee low
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:35 AM
Apr 2016

People give an average of $27 to Bernie's campaign. Clinton's just proving the millennials' point (she's in cahoots with Big Money) when she says it takes a minimum of $250 to join her exclusive club. My guess is the result of her latest effort to "reach out to young people" will net her zero converts.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
87. It's all a sham, just a publicity stunt. If they get some money out of it so much the better.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:17 PM
Apr 2016
 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
73. Yeah, that's a winner...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:40 AM
Apr 2016

And the whole proposition is... weird.

I'm certainly not young, and I've donated... a fair sum to Bernie's campaign. But I don't expect to get some kind of club membership or secret decoder card for my efforts.

Even if it was $20 to get you 'associate'-level 'membership,' it's something that the young people who have supported Bernie would would see right through. 'Give me a bit of money and you're in the club - and when you're in the club, you get the privilege of... being asked for more money and to get your friends to give money too!'

It's the sort of thing that only people accustomed to the 'adult-level' game of 'Bundlers, Lobbyists, PACs, Access!' would envision...

riversedge

(80,808 posts)
7. I think it is a wise move also...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:10 AM
Apr 2016



.....Steve Schale, a Democratic strategist in Florida who is not affiliated with the Clinton campaign, said for45 was a "smart way" to begin courting Sanders' supporters. He compared it with the "Gen44" group of young voters that supported President Barack Obama. ...................

Ruby the Liberal

(26,664 posts)
12. How incredibly tone deaf
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:26 AM
Apr 2016

That campaign honestly thinks that the people at Bernie's base have $250 burning a hole in their pocket, just looking for a politician to give it to? When their candidate charges more for a speech than many/most of them will make in a decade?

Awesome idea!

gordianot

(15,772 posts)
18. Those promoting Hillary including former progressives have lost all sense of irony.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:36 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders is not responsible for this phenomenon but he uses it well. It is so reminiscent of early tea party delusional thinking.

BlueMTexpat

(15,689 posts)
27. Per the FEC, Bernie's base
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:55 AM
Apr 2016

seems to include several people who have made one-time contributions that exceed the maximum $2700 allowable, so apparently these people have lots more than $250 burning holes in their pockets.

This has been an ongoing problem. There are also several others who have made several smaller contributions that total to more than the $2700 allowable. These also seem to have no problems finding cash.

Of course, the FEC must be in on the "conspiracy" ....

I know firsthand that some of Bernie's "millennials" have plenty of cash to burn on Bernie's behalf, largely because it is their parents and grandparents who were farsighted and fortunate enough to be able to set up trust funds to pay their college expenses for them. I also know firsthand that at least some of these see no irony whatsoever in that even though big bad Wall Street is the reason that they have that money to burn.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
56. Some obviously have too much according to the FEC
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:23 AM
Apr 2016
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
13. Good Luck a$&&h$!?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:27 AM
Apr 2016

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
15. This is a joke, right? The Onion?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:31 AM
Apr 2016

I'm sure they'll find some couch cushion change to pile together after they've paid their student loans back in oh, 40 years.

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
17. "Some of these jokes write themselves," Dave Letterman n/t
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:35 AM
Apr 2016

gordianot

(15,772 posts)
19. That was my first take a stupid joke, go up thread they were serious
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:40 AM
Apr 2016

ejbr

(5,892 posts)
21. Tough sell
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:45 AM
Apr 2016

To dip into my trust fund or no?

rpannier

(24,924 posts)
22. 250.00 is the start
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:47 AM
Apr 2016

I think she or her advisors seriously missed something

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
31. Maybe it was a typo and they put the decimal in the wrong place?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:05 AM
Apr 2016

I bet they meant $25.00 was the starting point, not $250.0. You gotta give them a break on a typo, right?

rpannier

(24,924 posts)
32. Wish it were a typo
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:08 AM
Apr 2016

Cobalt Violet

(9,976 posts)
24. wow just wow. Must be for young people with trust funds.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:52 AM
Apr 2016

No one making $12. hr could afford that. That isn't low dollar. How out of touch can they be?

Vinca

(53,989 posts)
28. It's a good illustration of how totally removed from "average" people she is.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:02 AM
Apr 2016

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
29. who has $250 laying to donate to a candidate?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:02 AM
Apr 2016

I'm 36, and my wife and I make over $100,000 a year and live in a very expensive place to live. I can make ends meet and live halfway comfortably (as in I have a reliable car, can pay my bills without a problem, live in a modest house, and can take the family out to dinner once in a while), but I'm not living the "good life" by any means. I can't just throw $250 at a political campaign. I felt like I gave a lot when I donated $100 to the sanders campaign - and I feel like I can do more than most.

Where and who are these people?

pengu

(462 posts)
33. Hahahahahahaha
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:09 AM
Apr 2016

They're so out of touch with normal people.

the group will offer associate level membership for as low as $250


What a deal! I think that's about the total I've scraped up for Sanders and I've been donating every month I could manage it. I think I've only missed 1 month since he declared (I was a first weekend donor). And I've MAYBE beat $250 by a little. Maybe.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
34. So this is the way she courts Sanders supporters?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:10 AM
Apr 2016

Wow, more deafness.

Cobalt Violet

(9,976 posts)
35. Her base is the " Have Mores". She just doesn't come out an say it like Bush did. n/t
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:17 AM
Apr 2016

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
37. Hillary just can't help herself....there just HAD to be at least ONE ZERO on the end of the amount..
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:21 AM
Apr 2016

probably had to erase the comma and the other three zeroes on the first draft...

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
38. Sigh.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:23 AM
Apr 2016

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
39. new young Hillary contributor: "Mom, can i have $250....
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:23 AM
Apr 2016
just take it out of my allowance."

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
41. Isn't that precious!
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:29 AM
Apr 2016

She thinks she's going to tap into the people donating to Bernie's campaign.

LS_Editor

(920 posts)
42. Once again, it's all about her. for45?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:39 AM
Apr 2016

Disgusting.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
44. Yep. Thought it was a joke when I saw the name they choice.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:51 AM
Apr 2016
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
67. Excuse me? It's a presidential election. Funny how the "it's all about Sanders" gets flown
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:23 AM
Apr 2016

Anymore than "it's all about Obama" or "Kerry" or "Dean".

SammyWinstonJack

(44,316 posts)
98. HUGE EGO! Quite disgusting .
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016
 

RATM435

(392 posts)
46. This is pure orwellian corporate speak .
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:56 AM
Apr 2016

Hey hillary i'm not a fucking walmart associate.

dr60omg

(283 posts)
50. That won't work
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:09 AM
Apr 2016

Sorry it just won't work. I guess Clintonites fail to recognize that young people are not going to be duped by someone who is both a neoliberal and a neoconservative

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
53. Young voters hate her.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:15 AM
Apr 2016

move on Hillary. They don't like you, they really don't like you.

bigworld

(1,813 posts)
54. I'm not anti-Hillary; I rather like her. But she's completely distanced herself from the real world
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:15 AM
Apr 2016

She thinks she's fighting for regular people, but she really doesn't interact with them at all except through focus groups or things she's read in the New York Times. She's completely lost touch with the common person.

Gamecock Lefty

(708 posts)
57. Young voters hate her?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:25 AM
Apr 2016

Really?

I guess those were 80 year olds standing behind her cheering during her NY speech where she TROUNCED $27-per-person Bernie?

Newsflash: some of us older voters don't like Bernie and we're stronger in numbers than his texting diaper dandies.

bigworld

(1,813 posts)
59. Nice attitude.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:29 AM
Apr 2016

texting diaper dandies?

The polling shows that Hillary DOES have a problem with younger voters. Hopefully someone out there on her team is asking why and just not dismissing them like you did.

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
58. Young people don't like her, many Democrats
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:27 AM
Apr 2016

don't like her, most independents dislike her, and probably all Republicans hate her.

She doesn't have a chance if she wins the nomination.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
81. Are you taking bets yet?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

I'm good for a c-note!

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
88. Better save that to go with the other $150 so you can be an ASSociate!
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:24 PM
Apr 2016
 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
61. so its called for 45 and entry level is not $45?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:54 AM
Apr 2016

how brain dead absurd

I am sorry when your first response is to snicker......wtf is wrong with her

bluedigger

(17,437 posts)
62. What is she offering in exchange?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:07 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary looks at her followers like a butcher sizes up a side of beef.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,521 posts)
85. You get the privilege of being on a special email list
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:15 PM
Apr 2016

from which you can be dunned regularly for more contributions. Maybe you get a membership card and a free bumper sticker, too.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
63. Clinton is such a phony. Can't you tell?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:09 AM
Apr 2016

Nedsdag

(2,437 posts)
65. Good luck with that!
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:12 AM
Apr 2016

I teach millennials at a community college who were devastated by Bernie's loss in New York and they claim the vote was "fixed" for Hillary.

She will have a tough time convincing them to vote for her.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
70. This is super-cool and off the hook. We youths are going to love it.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:27 AM
Apr 2016

I'll spread the word on the Tweeters.

tclambert

(11,193 posts)
79. Is she going to accept donations in bitcoins?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016
 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
90. Don't you need to spend $250 on buying $250 worth of bitcoins?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
83. Hey Camp Weathervane...it's not about age...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:14 PM
Apr 2016

It's about all the corrupt Clinton money.

Dumbest campaign ever.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
89. "We will have an opportunity to fundraise and host low-dollar events"
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

Braindead. Low dollar? $250.00?? Low dollar for who? Not millennials, that's for fucking sure!!

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
91. Is this liike Trump University?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:41 PM
Apr 2016

You pay for membership and get nothing in return. Who is she taking advise from, the NRA?

Scion600

(3 posts)
92. "As low as $250????????"
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016

In 2020, it'll be "as low as $500."
In 2024, it'll be "as low as $1000."
In 2028, it'll be "as low as $2500."
And so on and so on, all the while poverty grows and grows and grows, and the young become angrier and angrier and angrier...
but keep those heads in the sand...

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
96. What happened to that $1 she wanted from Maddi???
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:29 PM
Apr 2016

$250?!!!

Who the hell thought this was a good idea? Let's reach out to young voters by draining them even more with outrageous target level tiers.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
97. the tiers are $250, $2,500, and $10,000 and the headliner's the liberish girl version of the Duggars
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:36 PM
Apr 2016

meanwhile 20 and 30somethings are racking up six-digit debt just to get a professional job while the uni milks them (oh, and bars the door to locals so they can exploit the Chinese and South Korean middle classes), have to delay surgery because their insurance sticks them with $1K copay and have to have MediCare pay for it, can't fix their car, work 60-90 hours, their parents can't retire AND are unemployable, their savings are an illusion, are trapped with 2-3 generations under one roof, and are looking at a job market that's been drained to China and India (oh, and you're called racist for pointing that out)

Kall

(615 posts)
100. LOL
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016
U.S. Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton launched a bid on Thursday to draw young voters and small donors to her campaign, targeting the strengths of her rival, Bernie Sanders, as she looks ahead to the general election.

Dubbed "for45" - for Clinton as the 45th president of the United States - the group will offer associate level membership for as low as $250, according to an invitation seen by Reuters for an April 25 Philadelphia event.


You're doing it wrong.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
102. I am sorry, LOCKING
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:06 PM
Apr 2016

It is the consensus of the hosts that this is better suited for GDP.

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