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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:32 PM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders to Cut Hundreds of Staff Members and Turn to California

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by mcar (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: NYT

Senator Bernie Sanders is planning to lay off “hundreds” of campaign staffers across the country and focus much of his remaining effort on winning California, he said in an interview Wednesday.

The Vermont senator revealed the changes a day after losing four of the five states that voted Tuesday and falling further behind Hillary Clinton in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination. Despite the changes, Mr. Sanders said he would remain in the race through the party’s summer convention and stressed that he hoped to bring staff members back on board if his political fortunes improved.

“We want to win as many delegates as we can, so we do not need workers now in states around the country,” Mr. Sanders said in the interview. “We don’t need people right now in Connecticut. That election is over. We don’t need them in Maryland. So what we are going to do is allocate our resources to the 14 contests that remain, and that means that we are going to be cutting back on staff.”

“It will be hundreds of staff members,” Mr. Sanders said. “We have had a very large staff, which was designed to deal with 50 states in this country; 40 of the states are now behind us. So we have had a great staff, great people.”

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign.html?_r=0

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Bernie Sanders to Cut Hundreds of Staff Members and Turn to California (Original Post) azurnoir Apr 2016 OP
We'd slam a corporation that let that many loyal staff go so cold-heartedly. Hoyt Apr 2016 #1
Anyone who takes a campaign job knows it's probably temporary. He did what he needed to do. pnwmom Apr 2016 #3
That what the boss always says 72DejaVu Apr 2016 #7
I'll stick with the cold-heartedness. Hiring people and saying you don't need them sounds like what Hoyt Apr 2016 #9
What would a campaign worker from and in New York do now that JDPriestly Apr 2016 #34
And just like a CEO ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #43
lol 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #55
What happens when Hillary lets go of her campaign staffers? Thats the nature of the job, duh! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #61
With Hillary they get new jobs at the White House. RealAmericanDem Apr 2016 #66
Thats right. And jobs with private Election database and voting machine companies. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #68
BINGO. riversedge Apr 2016 #69
Keep it up. You're making yourself look fucking smart. Phlem Apr 2016 #63
Always finding that silver lining, I see RufusTFirefly Apr 2016 #4
Campaign jobs are by definition temporary democrattotheend Apr 2016 #6
So are corporate jobs in the 21st Century. Sanders is not much different from anyone else Hoyt Apr 2016 #10
If you want to help some of them keep their jobs, by all means, pitch in democrattotheend Apr 2016 #44
To fund Bernie's trip to Paris? No thanks. beastie boy Apr 2016 #48
Political campaign jobs are mostly temporary. redwitch Apr 2016 #18
So are most jobs nowadays. There's always an excuse. Hoyt Apr 2016 #20
It's not like productivity has plummented Plucketeer Apr 2016 #19
Great post! erlewyne Apr 2016 #35
It's a campaign. wildeyed Apr 2016 #23
if bernie can't keep his loyal workers employed .... MariaThinks Apr 2016 #37
If you are a singer or performer (as many are here in California) JDPriestly Apr 2016 #42
What a ridiculous, silly, asinine, stupid comment progree Apr 2016 #57
I heard Bernie is replacing them with overseas workers. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #2
LOL. Hoyt Apr 2016 #12
Like this? Plucketeer Apr 2016 #24
Thats the NAFTA, CAFTA, TPP way, Bernie did not vote for. Hillary fully supports them. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #62
In the meantime happynewyear Apr 2016 #5
Why doesn't he just transfer some of the laid off workers instead of hiring new ones? pnwmom Apr 2016 #8
Bernie is seeking workers w/specifc skills happynewyear Apr 2016 #14
Time to take advantage of the H1B visa program! beastie boy Apr 2016 #21
isn't that what corporations and BANKs do? MariaThinks Apr 2016 #38
They probably put that ad up a while ago democrattotheend Apr 2016 #45
Ahhh.... logistics maybe? Plucketeer Apr 2016 #27
We need campaign workers in California who know California politics, JDPriestly Apr 2016 #32
Well his big mistake TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #11
$10? I thought he was pushing $15/hr. Hoyt Apr 2016 #17
A $15 minimum wage would be phased in TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #22
Just getting clarification of his hypocrisy. Hoyt Apr 2016 #33
Hypocrisy is pushing a corporatist neocon while using Woody Guthrie as an avatar RufusTFirefly Apr 2016 #56
Well let's look at the minimum wage from 40 years ago TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #58
He paid the fat media moguls a lot more. beastie boy Apr 2016 #29
He did not have her name recognition. I'm sure his staff helped him JDPriestly Apr 2016 #31
Wow, more excuses! beastie boy Apr 2016 #36
As I explained, Hillary received fewer votes this year than she did JDPriestly Apr 2016 #41
You are making my point for me. beastie boy Apr 2016 #46
why not $15? MariaThinks Apr 2016 #39
He's not calling for a $15 minimum wage right away democrattotheend Apr 2016 #54
This is being a prudent steward of the money that was entrusted to his campaign colorado_ufo Apr 2016 #13
Sounds exactly what every employee ever laid off has heard. Hoyt Apr 2016 #16
A campaign job is always temporary n/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #26
Yeah, and I'm sure any business feels the same when things aren't looking good. Hoyt Apr 2016 #40
I've worked temp jobs TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #51
Oh, Go smoke your cigarette somewhere else. Doitnow Apr 2016 #52
If a job is temporary, and the employee knows that, then there is no room for complaint colorado_ufo Apr 2016 #47
His explanation seems to say that he doesn't expect to win the nomination. If he won.... George II Apr 2016 #15
Guam is mad because of that thing Sanders surrogate wildeyed Apr 2016 #28
Bernie is an excellent money-manager. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #30
Thanks a million to all of Bernie's staff. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #25
I will second that colorado_ufo Apr 2016 #50
Yes! Thank you! -from all of us who have been unpaid -but entusiasic- Bernie campaigners. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #67
Didn't he do this in each state once the primary xloadiex Apr 2016 #49
That would make sense wouldn't it? I can see phone bankers being retained but not actual field worke azurnoir Apr 2016 #53
Is Hillary still paying her Iowa and Vermont campaign workers? left-of-center2012 Apr 2016 #59
+1 FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #65
Camp Weathervane has hired and fired, since the beginning... SoapBox Apr 2016 #60
That new Path to Victory Cryptoad Apr 2016 #64
Locking mcar Apr 2016 #70
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. We'd slam a corporation that let that many loyal staff go so cold-heartedly.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:36 PM
Apr 2016

pnwmom

(110,260 posts)
3. Anyone who takes a campaign job knows it's probably temporary. He did what he needed to do.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:39 PM
Apr 2016

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
7. That what the boss always says
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:42 PM
Apr 2016
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. I'll stick with the cold-heartedness. Hiring people and saying you don't need them sounds like what
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:43 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders has been yelling against. And he supposedly has campaign funds, so it sounds like he's trying to hold on to it. Not to mention, you'd think his supporters would not want campaign workers to be treated shabbily.

I get conserving money for the greater good -- but Sanders can't even manage his staff and keep them employed. He's kind of treating them like pawns. He's just another cold-hearted business person. He and Trump are a lot a like.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
34. What would a campaign worker from and in New York do now that
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:02 PM
Apr 2016

primary is over?

In California, the political reality is very different from New York.

How many New Yorkers know who Kamala Harris really is?

Political work is temp work. That's the nature of it.

I've neer done it for pay, but I have worked as a volunteer for lots of campaigns. And when the campaign is over, you don't continue working to elect your candidate. You go home and rest. I suppose the paid staff have to find new jobs and expect that they will be laid off before long when they start a new job.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
43. And just like a CEO ...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:10 PM
Apr 2016

... he gave himself a bonus - a private jet getaway to Rome for himself and his family - before laying off staff.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
55. lol
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016

crock

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
61. What happens when Hillary lets go of her campaign staffers? Thats the nature of the job, duh!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:05 PM
Apr 2016

RealAmericanDem

(221 posts)
66. With Hillary they get new jobs at the White House.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:26 PM
Apr 2016

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
68. Thats right. And jobs with private Election database and voting machine companies.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:27 PM
Apr 2016

riversedge

(80,802 posts)
69. BINGO.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:31 PM
Apr 2016

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
63. Keep it up. You're making yourself look fucking smart.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:21 PM
Apr 2016

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
4. Always finding that silver lining, I see
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:39 PM
Apr 2016


If I carped this much and this shamelessly, I think I'd have to get rid of all my mirrors in order to make life just a bit more bearable.

democrattotheend

(12,011 posts)
6. Campaign jobs are by definition temporary
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

All campaign jobs end when the election is over, the candidate withdraws, or the election is mostly over (few states left) and fewer staff are needed. If he were to drop out, as many here have urged him to do, he would have to let his entire campaign staff go. By staying in until the end, at least some people stay employed longer.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. So are corporate jobs in the 21st Century. Sanders is not much different from anyone else
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:45 PM
Apr 2016

conserving money and treating loyal staff like crud.

democrattotheend

(12,011 posts)
44. If you want to help some of them keep their jobs, by all means, pitch in
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:12 PM
Apr 2016
 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
48. To fund Bernie's trip to Paris? No thanks.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:16 PM
Apr 2016

redwitch

(15,260 posts)
18. Political campaign jobs are mostly temporary.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:50 PM
Apr 2016

And at least he paid his staff!

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
20. So are most jobs nowadays. There's always an excuse.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
19. It's not like productivity has plummented
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016

or his product isn't se4lling well. ALL his money comes from guys and gals like lil ol me - retired an on SS and a small VA disability allowance. As an "investor", I'd want him to be fiscally frugal. Especially since I'm fixin' to send him a few more bucks!

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
35. Great post!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:03 PM
Apr 2016

Thank you Plucketeer!

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
23. It's a campaign.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

They knew it was a temporary job when they signed on and that he was losing. I can slam Sanders for a lot, but not this.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
37. if bernie can't keep his loyal workers employed ....
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:03 PM
Apr 2016

it's easy to criticize, but solutions are also needed.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
42. If you are a singer or performer (as many are here in California)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:07 PM
Apr 2016

you know that after you have done your gig, whether it lasts an evening or a year, you have to look for new work. Politics is the same way. It isn't a job. It is a short-term gig.

progree

(12,972 posts)
57. What a ridiculous, silly, asinine, stupid comment
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:42 PM
Apr 2016
We'd slam a corporation that let that many loyal staff go so cold-heartedly.


No campaign lasts more than a year or so. Everyone, literally everyone except a few silly dumb-ass bozos know that.

And I don't give a hoot in hell if this is hidden. Such asinine stupidity needs to be called out, whatever the consequence.

I haven't had a hide since 2012. But calling out your ridiculous, silly, asinine, stupid comment is well worth despoiling my almost pristine record. Now I will only be able to "brag" that I haven't had a hide since April 2016. Oh well. Very definitely worth it. Congratulations!!!!!!

 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
2. I heard Bernie is replacing them with overseas workers.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:38 PM
Apr 2016
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. LOL.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:45 PM
Apr 2016
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
24. Like this?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
62. Thats the NAFTA, CAFTA, TPP way, Bernie did not vote for. Hillary fully supports them.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:10 PM
Apr 2016

happynewyear

(1,724 posts)
5. In the meantime
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:39 PM
Apr 2016

Jobs with Bernie 2016
California

PDI Specialist
Regional Field Director
Field Organizer

https://berniesanders.com/jobswithbernie2016/



pnwmom

(110,260 posts)
8. Why doesn't he just transfer some of the laid off workers instead of hiring new ones?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:43 PM
Apr 2016

happynewyear

(1,724 posts)
14. Bernie is seeking workers w/specifc skills
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:46 PM
Apr 2016

Did you click on that link and check-out these jobs?

Would require relocating among other things.

Sanders 2016!

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
21. Time to take advantage of the H1B visa program!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
38. isn't that what corporations and BANKs do?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:04 PM
Apr 2016

democrattotheend

(12,011 posts)
45. They probably put that ad up a while ago
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:13 PM
Apr 2016

I doubt they are hiring right now.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
27. Ahhh.... logistics maybe?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:55 PM
Apr 2016

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
32. We need campaign workers in California who know California politics,
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:59 PM
Apr 2016

geography and mentality.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,202 posts)
11. Well his big mistake
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:45 PM
Apr 2016

is that HE PAID THEM. All of them! Even the lowliest intern was paid at least $10 an hour. All the other candidates have unpaid interns.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. $10? I thought he was pushing $15/hr.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:49 PM
Apr 2016

TexasBushwhacker

(21,202 posts)
22. A $15 minimum wage would be phased in
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

And $10 an hour is more than the ZERO that Clinton pays her interns.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
33. Just getting clarification of his hypocrisy.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:02 PM
Apr 2016

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
56. Hypocrisy is pushing a corporatist neocon while using Woody Guthrie as an avatar
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:33 PM
Apr 2016

He's rolling in his grave.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,202 posts)
58. Well let's look at the minimum wage from 40 years ago
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:50 PM
Apr 2016

and adjust it for inflation. It was $2.30 an hour on 1976 and adjusted for 40 years of inflation it would be $9.63 now.

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=2.30&year1=1976&year2=2016

So not only was Bernie paying $10.10/hr which is still 47 cents more per hour than $9.63, it's almost 40% higher than $7.25. My guess is that he used the $10 minimum wage in California and Massachusetts as a guideline.

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
29. He paid the fat media moguls a lot more.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:56 PM
Apr 2016

If he kept his media buys in Wisconsin and New York on par with Hillary's, he would have been left with a hell of a lot of $10 bills to pay his staff!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
31. He did not have her name recognition. I'm sure his staff helped him
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:58 PM
Apr 2016

make that decision to invest in media in those states. It was especially important in New York where he did better than Obama did in 2008 and where he kept her total number of votes to about 14,000 less than what she had in 2008.

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
36. Wow, more excuses!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:03 PM
Apr 2016

No name recognition in his home state? Pahleeze!

He paid tens of millions for a net loss of over 20 delegates in those two states. Sounds like mismanagement of millions of those $27 contributions to me...

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
41. As I explained, Hillary received fewer votes this year than she did
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:06 PM
Apr 2016

in 2008 in her home state. Enough is enough. Bernie did a great job in New York state. It is his childhood home state, but he has not be politically active there for maybe 50 years. She was the senator from that state from maybe 2001 until 2008.

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
46. You are making my point for me.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:14 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary got less votes than before, yet Bernie lost over 20 delegates to the carpetbagger while outspending her 2 to 1.

You want to call this embezzlement instead of mismanagement?...

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
39. why not $15?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:05 PM
Apr 2016

democrattotheend

(12,011 posts)
54. He's not calling for a $15 minimum wage right away
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:20 PM
Apr 2016

His plan calls for phasing it in over several years. Plus, he's the only candidate I have ever heard of who paid interns at all.

colorado_ufo

(6,251 posts)
13. This is being a prudent steward of the money that was entrusted to his campaign
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:46 PM
Apr 2016

through the donations of many people, many of whom have limited resources and to whom a campaign contribution represented a sacrifice.

Campaign workers have one objective: to get their candidate elected. That is the sum total of their job description. When the campaign is over, their job is over, and if they believe in the purpose of their job, then they will understand that this is a necessary strategy.

No one wants to be laid off work, but it is hopefully for a more long-term gain.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
16. Sounds exactly what every employee ever laid off has heard.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:49 PM
Apr 2016

TexasBushwhacker

(21,202 posts)
26. A campaign job is always temporary n/t
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:55 PM
Apr 2016
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
40. Yeah, and I'm sure any business feels the same when things aren't looking good.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:05 PM
Apr 2016

TexasBushwhacker

(21,202 posts)
51. I've worked temp jobs
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:18 PM
Apr 2016

I knew from the beginning they were temporary. I didn't expect them to last forever.

I've been laid off from permanent jobs too. I didn't like it, but in my situation I understood why they did it. It was a cost cutting measure that made sense for the company.

Working decades for the same company and getting a gold watch has been gone for a long time. For political campaigns it was never there to begin with.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
52. Oh, Go smoke your cigarette somewhere else.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:20 PM
Apr 2016

colorado_ufo

(6,251 posts)
47. If a job is temporary, and the employee knows that, then there is no room for complaint
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:15 PM
Apr 2016

unless they were promised a certain length of employment.

Do you know if they were promised a certain length of employment?

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. His explanation seems to say that he doesn't expect to win the nomination. If he won....
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:46 PM
Apr 2016

....the nomination he would need all those workers for the General Election.

"What we are going to do is allocate our resources to the 14 contests that remain". Who gets allocated to Guam?

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
28. Guam is mad because of that thing Sanders surrogate
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:55 PM
Apr 2016

Tim Robbins said, about how SC matters as much as Guam. Pretty sure SC was mad, too

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
30. Bernie is an excellent money-manager.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:56 PM
Apr 2016

There are only ten states left. Political aides know from the get-go that their work is temporary. I've never done political work other than as a volunteer, but I have always figured they must be very flexible in their job approach.

Bernie's staff has done a fantastic job bringing Bernie from virtually no even name recognition to being a real contender and possible candidate.

Feel the Bern!

California is the big one, and we are just starting to organize over the past couple of weeks.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
25. Thanks a million to all of Bernie's staff.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:54 PM
Apr 2016

Good luck in the future. You did a great job.

I bet you are tired, but still: Feel the Bern!

I'm also pretty sure it hurts when the work ends and you get laid off, but that is part of political work.

I've never done it professionally in any capacity, but I can imagine that it is not very dependable.

colorado_ufo

(6,251 posts)
50. I will second that
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:17 PM
Apr 2016

with another big "thank you." I hope that your excellent work will shine on your resume and help give you a step-up to even better jobs in the future. It will be very nice to be able to put a United States Senator, and hopefully future President, as a reference.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,605 posts)
67. Yes! Thank you! -from all of us who have been unpaid -but entusiasic- Bernie campaigners.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:26 PM
Apr 2016

xloadiex

(628 posts)
49. Didn't he do this in each state once the primary
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:17 PM
Apr 2016

in that state was over? I see this article as nothing more than to try and make it seem like Bernie is giving up.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
53. That would make sense wouldn't it? I can see phone bankers being retained but not actual field worke
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:20 PM
Apr 2016

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
59. Is Hillary still paying her Iowa and Vermont campaign workers?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:52 PM
Apr 2016

I think not.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,605 posts)
65. +1
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:22 PM
Apr 2016

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
60. Camp Weathervane has hired and fired, since the beginning...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:53 PM
Apr 2016

There have been numerous articles over the past months about her campaign bringing on and then letting go...many, many not even paid in the first place.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
64. That new Path to Victory
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:22 PM
Apr 2016

has been calculated. Bern now must win CAL three times. this is going to take all his focus,,,but plz keep those $27 a rolling in!

mcar

(46,055 posts)
70. Locking
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:47 PM
Apr 2016
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