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Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:46 PM May 2016

Deadlines loom for answers in Clinton email probe as U.S. judge sets discovery

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by In_The_Wind (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Washington Post

A federal judge on Wednesday directed State Department officials and top aides to Hillary Clinton to answer questions under oath by June 29 about whether they intentionally thwarted federal open-records laws by allowing Clinton’s use of a private email server throughout her tenure as secretary of state from 2009 to 2013.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan in Washington sets the stage for responses before July’s presidential nominating conventions — but does not ensure cooperation — from at least six current and former top officials, including Cheryl D. Mills, who was Clinton’s chief of staff at State; Huma Abedin, Mills’s deputy who now is vice chairman of Clinton’s Democratic presidential campaign; and Bryan Pagliano, a Clinton staff member during her 2008 presidential campaign who helped set up the private server.

While Sullivan did not permit questioning of Clinton herself for now, he wrote that the conservative legal watchdog group Judicial Watch may ask to do so later if it thinks “based on information learned during discovery, the deposition of Mrs. Clinton may be necessary.”

Sullivan’s 15-page written opinion and order came after lawyers for the government agreed to a narrowed scope of questions requested by Judicial Watch. The group filed a lawsuit over its 2013 public-records request for information concerning Abedin’s employment arrangement.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/deadlines-loom-for-answers-in-clinton-email-probe-as-us-judge-sets-discovery/2016/05/04/a661d4e2-121e-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html



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Deadlines loom for answers in Clinton email probe as U.S. judge sets discovery (Original Post) Land of Enchantment May 2016 OP
Here's her answer: no. She didn't. She knew that all her emails to and from .gov pnwmom May 2016 #1
Explains why the government had to ask her Press Virginia May 2016 #6
The state department had to repeatedly ask for Clinton's emails NWCorona May 2016 #14
No, they asked her once. She didn't resist. But it took a month to go through 55,000 emails. pnwmom May 2016 #15
Not true. They asked for them multiple times going back to June 2014 NWCorona May 2016 #16
Link, please. Here's mine. pnwmom May 2016 #21
And here's mine. NWCorona May 2016 #23
Yes she did. She had her lawyers stiff arm the State Department Ash_F May 2016 #18
Link, please. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #20
Here Ash_F May 2016 #24
. . . pnwmom May 2016 #25
Negotiations began in August Ash_F May 2016 #27
Whatever the heck that means. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #28
It means it did not take them "1 month" Ash_F May 2016 #29
It took them five weeks from the time the letter was sent. And there was no official pnwmom May 2016 #30
Right just State Department officials making a request Ash_F May 2016 #31
The only thing we know for sure is that an official written request was sent on October 28. pnwmom May 2016 #32
I don't think the Times was the only news source that reported on the Summer negotiations. Ash_F May 2016 #33
Nothing matters till the written letter was sent. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #36
To you maybe Ash_F May 2016 #38
How many do you send involving 55,000 pages of emails? pnwmom May 2016 #39
None, but those belonged to the government in the first place Ash_F May 2016 #43
Meh. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #44
After all, your source is Clinton's own website, and therefore completely trustworthy Android3.14 May 2016 #35
Please prove that it isn't accurate that the first written request was sent on October 28. pnwmom May 2016 #37
The same information is available from the National Archives. pnwmom May 2016 #40
judicial watch BHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! leftofcool May 2016 #2
let me guess.... JonLeibowitz May 2016 #9
And some Sanders supporters are lapping it up like water out of a dog bowl. Chicago1980 May 2016 #19
More like dogs lapping up water out of a toilet bowl. nt COLGATE4 May 2016 #42
where are supporters of Senator Sanders commenting at all? OwlinAZ May 2016 #45
No Hillary troll, truth teller. Chicago1980 May 2016 #46
Only a fool treats these guys like fools. Android3.14 May 2016 #47
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Skittles May 2016 #3
seems like the Clinton folks are good at closing their ears, with lots of zzzzzzzzzzz's tomm2thumbs May 2016 #4
i believe it's been demonstrated to the satisfaction of many mooseprime May 2016 #8
Indeed! Who needs any legally acceptable proof of guit when certain people are perfectly happy with beastie boy May 2016 #12
I am so sorry you agree with judicial watch over Huma's maternity leave. leftofcool May 2016 #34
first sentence tomm2thumbs May 2016 #41
Some here laugh at FOIA and I find that curious for liberals, very curious. haikugal May 2016 #5
Come on - you and I both know that those people aren't liberals. Maedhros May 2016 #17
Yeah, but I was being kind by calling them liberals, not correct. haikugal May 2016 #22
I thought the date was interesting. This part of the story Land of Enchantment May 2016 #7
Hell I probably would take the 5th as well especially considering what they went on to nail cstanleytech May 2016 #10
Yeah, I think he can plead the 5th in Land of Enchantment May 2016 #11
Unless its a blanket immunity for both state and federal crimes cstanleytech May 2016 #13
remember - this is not the FBI investigation grasswire May 2016 #26
Locking Duplicate Thread. Continue this discussion here: In_The_Wind May 2016 #48

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
1. Here's her answer: no. She didn't. She knew that all her emails to and from .gov
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:48 PM
May 2016

accounts would be saved, and available there; and the rest she retained on her server -- and provided as soon as it was requested.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
6. Explains why the government had to ask her
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:54 PM
May 2016

to return government property

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
14. The state department had to repeatedly ask for Clinton's emails
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:05 PM
May 2016

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
15. No, they asked her once. She didn't resist. But it took a month to go through 55,000 emails.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:10 PM
May 2016

Big deal.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
16. Not true. They asked for them multiple times going back to June 2014
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:19 PM
May 2016

And the state shouldn't have even had to ask for them.

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
21. Link, please. Here's mine.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:35 PM
May 2016
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/

Why did the State Department ask for assistance in collecting records? Why did the State Department need assistance in further meeting its requirements under the Federal Records Act?

The State Department formally requested the assistance of the four previous former Secretaries in a letter to their representatives dated October 28, 2014, to help in further meeting the Department’s requirements under the Federal Records Act.

The letter stated that in September 2013, the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) issued new guidance clarifying records management responsibilities regarding the use of personal email accounts for government business.

While this guidance was issued after all four former Secretaries had departed office, the Department decided to ensure its records were as complete as possible and sought copies of work emails sent or received by the Secretaries on their own accounts.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
23. And here's mine.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:47 PM
May 2016

"This article has been updated.

Throughout the controversy over her use of a private e-mail system while she was secretary of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton has described her decision last year to turn over thousands of work-related e-mails as a response to a routine-sounding records request.

“When we were asked to help the State Department make sure they had everything from other secretaries of state, not just me, I’m the one who said, ‘Okay, great, I will go through them again,’ ” Clinton said Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “And we provided all of them.”

But State Department officials provided new information Tuesday that undercuts Clinton’s characterization. They said the request was not simply about general rec­ord-keeping but was prompted entirely by the discovery that Clinton had exclusively used a private e-mail system. They also said they first contacted her in the summer of 2014, at least three months before the agency asked Clinton and three of her predecessors to provide their e-mails"




https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/state-departments-account-of-e-mail-request-differs-from-clintons/2015/09/22/54cd66bc-5ed9-11e5-8e9e-dce8a2a2a679_story.html


Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
18. Yes she did. She had her lawyers stiff arm the State Department
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:29 PM
May 2016

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
20. Link, please. n/t
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:35 PM
May 2016

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
25. . . .
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:54 PM
May 2016

The letter cited in your link below was dated October 28 and she provided the email on December 5 -- a very quick turn-around.


In October, the State Department sent a letter to Mrs. Clinton and all former secretaries of state back to Madeleine K. Albright, seeking emails and other documents in their possession that related to their government work.

Finally, in December, dozens of boxes filled with 50,000 pages of printed emails from Mrs. Clinton’s personal account were delivered to the State Department. Those documents were then examined by department lawyers, who found roughly 900 pages pertaining to the Benghazi attacks.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
27. Negotiations began in August
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:08 PM
May 2016

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
28. Whatever the heck that means. n/t
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:09 PM
May 2016

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
29. It means it did not take them "1 month"
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:10 PM
May 2016

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
30. It took them five weeks from the time the letter was sent. And there was no official
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:12 PM
May 2016

request till the letter was sent.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
31. Right just State Department officials making a request
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:16 PM
May 2016

...and then being told to meet with her lawyers.

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
32. The only thing we know for sure is that an official written request was sent on October 28.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:20 PM
May 2016

And that's also the bottom line.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
33. I don't think the Times was the only news source that reported on the Summer negotiations.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:24 PM
May 2016

I am pretty sure that is not made up.

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
36. Nothing matters till the written letter was sent. n/t
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:34 PM
May 2016

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
38. To you maybe
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:41 PM
May 2016

I submit a lot of FOIAs as part of my work. It is supposed to take no more than 20 days.

Now it is coming out anyway. She should have just complied instead of lawyering up.

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
39. How many do you send involving 55,000 pages of emails?
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:43 PM
May 2016

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
43. None, but those belonged to the government in the first place
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:39 PM
May 2016

They could not even begin to respond to the FOIA until they got their own stuff back. She subverted the whole process.

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
44. Meh. n/t
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:50 PM
May 2016
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
35. After all, your source is Clinton's own website, and therefore completely trustworthy
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:33 PM
May 2016

This thing is an albatross.

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
37. Please prove that it isn't accurate that the first written request was sent on October 28.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:35 PM
May 2016

Because this is a letter repeating that date that was issued by the National Archives.

https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2015/pdf/state-dept-response-to-wester-04-02-2015.pdf


As you know, NARA has been updating its guidance on the management of emails. In furtherance of that guidance and to ensure that our records are as complete as possible, on October 28, 2014, Under Secretary Kennedy sent a letter to the representatives of former Secretaries Clinton, Powell, Rice, and Albright to request that copies of federal records be made available to the Department (see1attachments 4-7).

pnwmom

(110,148 posts)
40. The same information is available from the National Archives.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:45 PM
May 2016
https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2015/pdf/state-dept-response-to-wester-04-02-2015.pdf


As you know, NARA has been updating its guidance on the management of emails. In furtherance of that guidance and to ensure that our records are as complete as possible, on October 28, 2014, Under Secretary Kennedy sent a letter to the representatives of former Secretaries Clinton, Powell, Rice, and Albright to request that copies of federal records be made available to the Department (see1attachments 4-7).

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. judicial watch BHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:48 PM
May 2016

These stupid right wing pigs still want to know why Huma got maternity leave.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
9. let me guess....
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:21 PM
May 2016

....she had a child?



These Republicans sure don't know much about women, pregnancies, or families!

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
19. And some Sanders supporters are lapping it up like water out of a dog bowl.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:34 PM
May 2016

COLGATE4

(14,883 posts)
42. More like dogs lapping up water out of a toilet bowl. nt
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:22 PM
May 2016
 

OwlinAZ

(410 posts)
45. where are supporters of Senator Sanders commenting at all?
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:02 AM
May 2016

(Hillary trolls)

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
46. No Hillary troll, truth teller.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:27 AM
May 2016

I see people continuously mentioning 'indictment' or email that have the Bernie avatar.

I've seen posts like that on DU an`d elsewhere.

Keep your eyes open and you'll see them too.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
47. Only a fool treats these guys like fools.
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:48 AM
May 2016

You may disagree with their choices of who to pursue, but these guys are effective and usually know they can win.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Watch#Major_investigations_and_lawsuits

Skittles

(168,576 posts)
3. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:49 PM
May 2016

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
4. seems like the Clinton folks are good at closing their ears, with lots of zzzzzzzzzzz's
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:52 PM
May 2016

I don't think general election voters will be so inclined

mooseprime

(475 posts)
8. i believe it's been demonstrated to the satisfaction of many
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:18 PM
May 2016

that laws don't apply to certain people. so bringing up that they may have broken the law is annoying and tiresome.

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
12. Indeed! Who needs any legally acceptable proof of guit when certain people are perfectly happy with
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:49 PM
May 2016

guilt by association! Screw the laws and due process!

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
34. I am so sorry you agree with judicial watch over Huma's maternity leave.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

That is what this is about you know?

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
41. first sentence
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:46 PM
May 2016

"A federal judge on Wednesday directed State Department officials and top aides to Hillary Clinton to answer questions under oath by June 29 about whether they intentionally thwarted federal open-records laws by allowing Clinton’s use of a private email server throughout her tenure as secretary of state from 2009 to 2013."

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
5. Some here laugh at FOIA and I find that curious for liberals, very curious.
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:53 PM
May 2016
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
17. Come on - you and I both know that those people aren't liberals.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:24 PM
May 2016

Not by a long shot.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
22. Yeah, but I was being kind by calling them liberals, not correct.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:37 PM
May 2016

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
7. I thought the date was interesting. This part of the story
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:02 PM
May 2016

is at least moving along faster than a snail's pace. I imagine Pagliano will take the 5th, as usual.


cstanleytech

(28,029 posts)
10. Hell I probably would take the 5th as well especially considering what they went on to nail
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:28 PM
May 2016

Bill for.

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
11. Yeah, I think he can plead the 5th in
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:47 PM
May 2016

this lawsuit but got immunity from the DoJ for the FBI investigation...OH--I meant 'security review'...

cstanleytech

(28,029 posts)
13. Unless its a blanket immunity for both state and federal crimes
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:00 PM
May 2016

I would probably tell them to go fuck themselves especially given how the Republicans have shown how spiteful they can be to go after someone for lying about a blowjob.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
26. remember - this is not the FBI investigation
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:04 PM
May 2016

This is a civil suit related to FOIA.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
48. Locking Duplicate Thread. Continue this discussion here:
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:32 AM
May 2016
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