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tabasco

(22,974 posts)
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:56 AM May 2016

Pregnant Connecticut Teen Who Tested Positive for Zika Virus Says She Will Keep Her Baby

Source: People

Pregnant Connecticut Teen Who Tested Positive for Zika Virus Says She Will Keep Her Baby: 'God Has Given Me a Miracle'

A pregnant Connecticut teen who tested positive for the Zika virus has decided to carry her baby to full term despite the risks of birth defects. Mujica and her fiancé, Victor Cruz, 19, learned they were pregnant on March 14 – just four days after she started exhibiting symptoms of the Zika virus, which has been linked to severe birth defects, including microcephaly.

"I'm not happy that my baby is going to be born with Zika but God has given me a miracle," Sara Mujica tells PEOPLE.

The 17-year-old from Danbury, Connecticut, says that doctors told her she would never be able to conceive because she had meningitis at age 15.

"Doctors said that I would never get pregnant so this is a big miracle for me," she says.

Mujica and her fiancé, Victor Cruz, 19, learned they were pregnant on March 14 – just four days after she started exhibiting symptoms of the Zika virus, which has been linked to severe birth defects, including microcephaly.

Read more: http://www.people.com/article/sara-mujica-pregnant-connecticut-teen-zika-virus-will-keep-her-baby



Very sad.
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Pregnant Connecticut Teen Who Tested Positive for Zika Virus Says She Will Keep Her Baby (Original Post) tabasco May 2016 OP
Good luck to her and her baby. In_The_Wind May 2016 #1
I do hope she will have lots of support. riversedge May 2016 #2
Then I trust you've kicked in some $$$ to her gofundme account? EL34x4 May 2016 #5
Good catch. cheapdate May 2016 #7
I don't agree with this at all. Demit May 2016 #33
I don't either. cheapdate May 2016 #35
Ah. My sarcasm detector must need recharging. :) Demit May 2016 #36
I'm sure the fundy anti-choice groups are organizing efforts to take care of the child. Hassin Bin Sober May 2016 #12
If they can't afford the baby, then they shouldn't have it. FLPanhandle May 2016 #18
Pro-choice means her body, her choice. Shaming her for making her own decision to keep it is no 24601 May 2016 #21
Pro-choice does not mean have children even if you can't afford them. FLPanhandle May 2016 #29
By that logic, pro-education means not attending college unless you can pay for it yourself. 24601 May 2016 #45
Yes it does. Pro-choice means the pregnant person has the choice. It's not up to you to decide uppityperson May 2016 #55
So how much is this going to cost me? Nt daa May 2016 #78
If you want to send me money, that's neat. Thanks. But I don't usually charge people to reply to me. uppityperson May 2016 #79
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2016 #66
I don't see how expressing an opinion is "shaming her." Demit May 2016 #34
Willfully exposing a fetus to a high risk of major birth defects is child abuse - n/t lbrtbell May 2016 #51
It's not high risk womanofthehills May 2016 #61
I have not see the phrase "learned THEY were pregnant on March 14", I like it. LiberalArkie May 2016 #3
It's common among the younger generation. hamsterjill May 2016 #71
This is her "choice". old guy May 2016 #4
Come again? enlightenment May 2016 #15
Papa, don't preach. snort May 2016 #19
I'm not your papa and I don't preach. old guy May 2016 #27
Buh bye, daddy. snort May 2016 #48
old guy greymouse May 2016 #37
I think you miss my point folks. old guy May 2016 #39
I think I agree with you. This is a choice that I have to jwirr May 2016 #52
Accepted by me? Of course her choice, whether abort or not, is acceptable to me and many. uppityperson May 2016 #56
Some would accept it and some wouldn't nt LiberalElite May 2016 #63
They are so young, I hope they have thought this through.. apparently, they made their choice secondwind May 2016 #6
Religion means never needing to think. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #42
God "gave" you a miracle? Kelvin Mace May 2016 #8
Yup iandhr May 2016 #10
rofl CarrieLynne May 2016 #16
No kidding CountAllVotes May 2016 #24
How much is this "miracle from god" going to cost taxpayers? FLPanhandle May 2016 #9
oh i dunno....in good republican fashion there kid will be expected to pull himself up by bootstraps dembotoz May 2016 #13
Even if he... 3catwoman3 May 2016 #76
Why don't you reconsider your words as they come across as pro-abortion rather than pro-choice? 24601 May 2016 #23
well that is silly I am tired of trying to be pleasant to zealot antiabortion freaks dembotoz May 2016 #41
Look at the tree - I was not commenting on your post. 24601 May 2016 #44
i would extend my coverage to include the other post dembotoz May 2016 #64
Probably not womanofthehills May 2016 #54
I'm quite sure we all cost the taxpayers at one time or another. LanternWaste May 2016 #72
Nothing to see here... Moostache May 2016 #11
she had a choice. stonecutter357 May 2016 #14
i wish people would think more about the baby than themselves CarrieLynne May 2016 #17
That's actually an anti-choice POV Ineeda May 2016 #47
i see your point CarrieLynne May 2016 #70
I Disagree Completely RobinA May 2016 #80
Your opinion totally differs from mine. Ineeda May 2016 #81
If a mere 1% is too high a risk, what then is the number and on what is it that measure on? LanternWaste May 2016 #73
There is no guarantee the baby will be damaged. NutmegYankee May 2016 #20
she thought she would never be able to get pregnant JI7 May 2016 #22
Well hopefully she learned CountAllVotes May 2016 #26
learn what ? JI7 May 2016 #28
That she could get pregnant, that is what CountAllVotes May 2016 #30
it was a doctor that told her she could not because of meningitis JI7 May 2016 #32
I know a women in my town named "Miracle" womanofthehills May 2016 #60
I don't think that's the smart choice, but it ain't my choice. Iggo May 2016 #25
Very true. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #43
I respect her choice, but prognosis isn't good Warpy May 2016 #31
Columbia and Venezuela - not seeing a spike in microcephaly womanofthehills May 2016 #59
Here you go Warpy May 2016 #62
Make the doctor pay for everything TexasBushwhacker May 2016 #38
There is much we don't know about this virus B2G May 2016 #40
I do hope the baby is all right. I wish her the best. CTyankee May 2016 #68
What a stupid girl. Fuckin' religion. nt valerief May 2016 #46
Very shocked at the attitudes of some on this thread. Coventina May 2016 #49
I wish her luck cannabis_flower May 2016 #50
Meningitis causes infertility? Zoetrope May 2016 #53
I agree. LisaL May 2016 #57
That jumped out at me, too. 3catwoman3 May 2016 #77
She has a point. So might also her baby's head Blandocyte May 2016 #58
She's an idiot truthisfreedom May 2016 #65
I'm sure your bias compels you to allege as much LanternWaste May 2016 #74
The difference being, facts and logic are on my side. truthisfreedom May 2016 #75
She might think God has given her a miracle, but it could turn into a nightmare really fast. Vinca May 2016 #67
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2016 #69
 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
5. Then I trust you've kicked in some $$$ to her gofundme account?
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:09 AM
May 2016

She's only $80 towards her $50,000 goal.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
7. Good catch.
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:27 AM
May 2016

Expressions of sympathy not followed up with concrete action are hollow and disingenuous and must be called out every time!

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
33. I don't agree with this at all.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:53 PM
May 2016

You cannot possibly act on every situation you feel sympathy for, in this world. But that doesn't negate the emotion. It isn't a reason to suppress expressing it, either. You go too far.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
12. I'm sure the fundy anti-choice groups are organizing efforts to take care of the child.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:01 AM
May 2016

Although, I think the parents would have a better result if they claimed evil liberals were forcing the baby to bake a gay wedding cake.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
18. If they can't afford the baby, then they shouldn't have it.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:46 AM
May 2016

Even healthy children are extremely expensive.

24601

(3,959 posts)
21. Pro-choice means her body, her choice. Shaming her for making her own decision to keep it is no
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:16 PM
May 2016

different than shaming her for aborting it.

What you expressed is the kind of sentiment that enables the right to claim pro-choice = pro-abortion.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
29. Pro-choice does not mean have children even if you can't afford them.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:36 PM
May 2016

In fact, one of the best things about the option of abortion is people understanding they aren't in a position to have children at that time.

24601

(3,959 posts)
45. By that logic, pro-education means not attending college unless you can pay for it yourself.
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:21 PM
May 2016

Pro-choice means a decision freely made by the mother in consultation with her doctor without people arhuing that she will go to hell is she has an abortion or will suffer financially if she does not.

It means that it's her body and her choice.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
55. Yes it does. Pro-choice means the pregnant person has the choice. It's not up to you to decide
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:44 PM
May 2016

in what conditions someone should be allowed to have children.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
79. If you want to send me money, that's neat. Thanks. But I don't usually charge people to reply to me.
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:40 PM
May 2016
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
34. I don't see how expressing an opinion is "shaming her."
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:04 PM
May 2016

The poster didn't say anything remotely like "she should be ashamed!"

Lots of luck to her getting people to kick in $ for the baby, but having a baby at 17 is more romantic than sensible. Especially a baby that might have special needs. Her choice, all right, but then and forever after, her responsibility. Hope she accepts that.

womanofthehills

(8,697 posts)
61. It's not high risk
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:42 PM
May 2016

The only high risk numbers are in Brazil - Columbia had thousands of Zita cases and no rise in microcephaly.

Who knows - it could be a combo thing - Zito virus + the unknown = microcephaly.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
71. It's common among the younger generation.
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

I've heard it many times from my daughter's contemporaries. I like the idea that it is inclusive of the father in situations where a pregnancy is a positive event.

I don't like it because, in my opinion, it's not factual and it degrades the idea that choice is a woman's decision in situations where pregnancy might not be a positive event.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
15. Come again?
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:26 AM
May 2016

If she had chosen to abort, it would have also been her choice. That's the thing with choices; choosing one thing often precludes choosing something else - but whatever the end result, it was still a choice.

What a weird thing to say.

old guy

(3,283 posts)
39. I think you miss my point folks.
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:50 PM
May 2016

She had every right to make the choice she made, but if her choice was to abort would that choice be accepted? Not a chance.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
52. I think I agree with you. This is a choice that I have to
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:55 PM
May 2016

struggle with because my oldest daughter is severely disabled. But if she had chosen to abort there would have been a stigma. That is why I struggle and remind myself that it is none of my business. I am glad that I did not have that choice when I was carrying my daughter.


The world had better get busy finding an answer to this disease because this is going to cost a fortune - the same way that my daughter has cost the taxpayer a fortune. Now multiply my daughter time the number of babies this is going to produce.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
24. No kidding
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:21 PM
May 2016

Sad reality she will be facing, very sad. She'll be needing a lot more that $500,000 before this thing is over.



dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
13. oh i dunno....in good republican fashion there kid will be expected to pull himself up by bootstraps
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:11 AM
May 2016

seems the way we are heading and how special needs are being funded

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
41. well that is silly I am tired of trying to be pleasant to zealot antiabortion freaks
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:37 PM
May 2016

I have can more more forthcoming if you wish.....

womanofthehills

(8,697 posts)
54. Probably not
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:11 PM
May 2016

The last numbers I saw from Columbia, were 2 cases of Microcephaly among 5000 pregnant women with Zita. The numbers are way less than Brazil.

The chances of her baby being normal are very good.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
72. I'm quite sure we all cost the taxpayers at one time or another.
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:53 PM
May 2016

I'm quite sure we all cost the taxpayers at one time or another. No doubt though, many idiots pretend they have absolute knowledge of who is worth what, and imply as much...

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
11. Nothing to see here...
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:58 AM
May 2016

Unless they start making public appearances for rightwing nutjob anti-abortionists...

I loathe the Palins for a lot of reasons, but chief among them was the crass parading around of their son with Down's Syndrome and promotion of their choice as some sort of moral beacon. Congratulations on choosing a lifetime commitment to caring for someone else's needs, but stop thinking that its a public good deed.

Private choices should remain private or they become publicity stunts. Palin has proven over and over that she never was anything but a living and breathing publicity stunt and grifter. I hope these kids don't try to tap that same well, but after watching the GOP and rightwing nuts make Kim Davis a "star" for being a biogted hate monger, I have very little doubt how this is going to turn out as well...

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
80. I Disagree Completely
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:48 PM
May 2016

As a parent or potential parent, part (if not all) of your responsibility is to think about the child. Choice isn't all about me, me, me. It's about making a decision weighing what you believe to be best for all involved. People's mileage may differ as to what is best, but choice should never be, although it often is, What do *I* want?

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
81. Your opinion totally differs from mine.
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:17 PM
May 2016

You say "Choice isn't all about me, me, me. It's about making a decision weighing what you believe to be best for all involved." I would choose differently than this young woman, but in the most basic way, that choice would be about me, me, me and my evaluation of how I would deal with things. I'm honest enough to admit I would be unable to emotionally, financially and physically handle the lifelong challenges associated with having a severely disabled child. So call me selfish, but the "best" for that child would be debatable. We should not judge other people's choices, even when they differ from ours. That's what CHOICE is all about.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
73. If a mere 1% is too high a risk, what then is the number and on what is it that measure on?
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:56 PM
May 2016

Normally, microcephaly occurs in about 1 in 5,000 to 1 in 10,000 of all births. Scientists analyzing outbreaks of the Zika virus in French Polynesia and northeast Brazil have estimated that the incidence rose to nearly 1 in 100 births nine months after those outbreaks peaked.

If a mere 1% is too high a risk, what then is the number and on what is it that measure on?

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
20. There is no guarantee the baby will be damaged.
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

I thought I saw recently that the incidence of birth defects was still low.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
32. it was a doctor that told her she could not because of meningitis
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

That's why she is calling it a miracle

womanofthehills

(8,697 posts)
60. I know a women in my town named "Miracle"
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:38 PM
May 2016

Her mom was told she could not get pregnant.

I was told I probably could not get pregnant, but got pregnant 3 times. Dr. said you better start trying for a baby now because you might have a real hard time getting pregnant - I was pregnant the next month.

Anyway, Columbia is showing no rise in microcephaly despite thousands of cases of Zita.

Iggo

(47,549 posts)
25. I don't think that's the smart choice, but it ain't my choice.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:22 PM
May 2016

And yes. Very sad, no matter what choice she makes.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
31. I respect her choice, but prognosis isn't good
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

Early in the pregnancy seems to be when the virus is most dangerous, women either miscarrying or giving preterm birth to non viable infants.

I wish her the best and hope she's one of the exceptions.

womanofthehills

(8,697 posts)
59. Columbia and Venezuela - not seeing a spike in microcephaly
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:32 PM
May 2016
Both countries have reported thousands of Zika cases: In Colombia, officials estimate more than 40,000 people have been infected with the virus, including more than 6,000 women who contracted it during pregnancy. In Venezuela, officials claim there are a few thousand Zika cases, but doctors on the ground peg the number far higher, possibly in the hundreds of thousands.

What neither country is seeing so far, however, is a spike in microcephaly. That's what experts are really watching for, because a replication of what scientists believe happened in Brazil would be ominous for everyone.

“Colombia and Venezuela are really the places that will verify whether Brazil is unique, or if the pattern will repeat,” said Uriel Kitron, an expert in tropical infectious diseases at Emory University in Atlanta.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/04/04/zika-spreading-birth-defects-arent-yet/82607406/

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
62. Here you go
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:51 PM
May 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/02/02/why-isnt-zika-causing-birth-defects-in-colombia-it-may-only-be-a-matter-of-time/

Colombia will tell us a lot,” said Marcos Espinal, director of communicable diseases and health analysis for the Pan American Health Organization.

Authorities there are monitoring pregnant women who have already been diagnosed with Zika, he said.

But one challenge is that the birth defects don't typically appear in a fetus until the end of the second trimester or the beginning of the third, according to experts. Other types of damage can't be detected until birth, or even later, they say — and many of the Zika cases are fresh. Researchers only detected transmission of Zika in Colombia last October, while it had emerged in Brazil at least five months earlier.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
38. Make the doctor pay for everything
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:29 PM
May 2016

He/she is the one who told her she could never become pregnant.

I had a friend who was told she couldn't get pregnant because she had an inverted uterus. So she didn't bother with birth control. She got pregnant and gave the baby up for adoption.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
40. There is much we don't know about this virus
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:52 PM
May 2016

There's also a good chance the baby will be born healthy. Not every pregnant woman who has contracted the virus has a child with defects.

If a pregnant woman is exposed ◦We don’t know how likely she is to get Zika.

•If a pregnant woman is infected ◦We don’t know how the virus will affect her or her pregnancy.
◦We don’t know how likely it is that Zika will pass to her fetus.
◦We don’t know if the fetus is infected, if the fetus will develop birth defects.
◦We don’t know when in pregnancy the infection might cause harm to the fetus.
◦We don’t know whether her baby will have birth defects.
◦We don’t know if sexual transmission of Zika virus poses a different risk of birth defects than mosquito-borne transmission.

http://www.cdc.gov/zika/pregnancy/question-answers.html

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
49. Very shocked at the attitudes of some on this thread.
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:33 PM
May 2016

This young woman was told she would probably never be able to have a baby.

How can someone get on their high-horse and deny her this unexpected opportunity?

The baby might turn out to be perfectly healthy. It might not.

Every pregnancy has its risks.

This is her CHOICE and she's allowed to make it.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
50. I wish her luck
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:40 PM
May 2016

Not every baby born to a Zika infected woman is born with birth defects. Hoping her baby also is not.

Zoetrope

(1 post)
53. Meningitis causes infertility?
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:02 PM
May 2016

This claim sounds dubious. She is free to make any decision she chooses, but I don't think that this is a miracle, just unprotected sex.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
57. I agree.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:47 PM
May 2016

I wasn't able to find that meningitis is linked to infertility and so why would a doctor tell her she would be infertile?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
74. I'm sure your bias compels you to allege as much
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:58 PM
May 2016

I'm sure your bias compels you to allege as much, much as mine compels me to think that same of you.

truthisfreedom

(23,145 posts)
75. The difference being, facts and logic are on my side.
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:45 PM
May 2016

The Zika virus has been proven to deliver the most horrific of birth defects.

Only an idiot would wish this outcome on an unborn child, when there's an alternative.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
67. She might think God has given her a miracle, but it could turn into a nightmare really fast.
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:59 AM
May 2016

I can't begin to imagine being only 17 and suddenly responsible for a severely disabled child. Maybe a sonogram will rule things in or out at some point and she'll change her mind. I hope she's getting better advice than "it's a miracle."

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