Hillary Clinton Declared Winner of Guam Democratic Caucuses

[onehandle]

Source: ABC News

[img][/img]

The Guam Democratic Party has declared Hillary Clinton the winner of the party's presidential caucuses in the U.S. territory.

Counting superdelegates, Clinton has amassed just over 93 percent of the necessary total to clinch the Democratic nomination, according to ABC News projections. To get to the magic number of 2,383, the former secretary of state needs to win 16 percent of all remaining delegates and 73 percent of pledged delegates.

Meanwhile, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders needs to win 97 percent of all remaining delegates. He cannot reach 2,383 on pledged delegates alone; to win the Democratic nomination, he would need the support of the superdelegates.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-declared-winner-guam-democratic-caucuses/story

[LiberalArkie]

1. So looking at all the popular vote the American people choose Trump thenHillary then Bernie.

It will be an interesting election.

[yallerdawg]

9. Wrong.

It's Hillary, followed by Trump.

Bernie is #3 in popular vote.

[LiberalArkie]

14. Great, that is better. Every state I looked at the number of Republican voters were more than the

number of Democratic voters.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

19. Trump can't claim those Republican voters

Many were drawn into the nomination process specifically to oppose him. I have a friend who is a mild Republican who will still vote against him doing just this.

So adding them into his total is completely silly.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[yallerdawg]

21. If you count the votes for the candidates...

Hillary - 12,438,491.

Trump - 10,647,150.

Bernie - 9,302,657.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_vote_count.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_vote_count.html

[LiberalArkie]

22. I was just really totaling all the Republican votes and all the Democratic separate.

Since generally the R's vote for the R and the D's for the D.

[brer cat]

40. Not necessarily true at all in open primaries/caucuses.

That is exactly how Cynthia McKinney lost her seat in Congress. She was despised by the republicans and they flocked to the democratic primary to vote for her opponent. That is the main reason I hate open primaries.

[onenote]

51. If you predict the outcome based on repub turnout v Democratic turnout

then Bernie loses too, as you must realize.

[JDPriestly]

31. And Bernie won more delegates in Washington State.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280192306

Hurrah for Bernie!


SHARE

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has cut into Hillary Clinton's lead by more than two dozen delegates, based on new data from Washington state, but his chances of winning the nomination haven't gotten much better. Clinton won the Guam caucus.

In Guam, the party said Clinton won 60 percent of the vote to earn four of the seven delegates at stake. Sanders will pick up three delegates.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/sanders-nets-31-delegates-washington-state-while-clinton-notches-guam-n569851

It's going to come down to Oregon and California, and Bernie will win our states.

[yallerdawg]

35. Don't get too excited!

Still, even with the additional delegates for Sanders, his mathematical chances of winning the nomination haven't improved.

Based on primaries and caucuses to date, Clinton now has 1,702 delegates while Sanders has 1,411 — or a lead of 291 delegates, according to the AP count.

If he hopes to overtake her based on just those primary and caucus delegates, he still must win 66 percent of the remaining delegates — a figure basically unchanged from before.

Clinton's lead is bigger when including superdelegates — party officials who can support any candidate.

She now has a total of 2,224 delegates, or 93 percent of the 2,383 delegates needed to win. Sanders has 1,450.

Just 159 delegates short, Clinton remains on track to clinch the nomination early next month.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/73425cea10e94ada8e17109031cacbc0/sanders-nets-31-delegates-washington-still-has-hard-road

[JDPriestly]

41. And then, she has to win the presidency.

Trump is very popular, and Hillary's supporters do not fathom the unwillingness among Bernie's supporters to vote for her in November.

If Hillary veers further to the right to appeal to Republicans, she will lose the Bernie voters.

All the unfairness and ugliness of her conduct of her campaign will backfire on her.

And it is all because she has a rather difficult personality.

In fact, if the contest in November is between Hillary and Trump, it will be a decision between two disliked candidates.

Bernie's big advantage is that people really like him much better than they do Hillary or Trump. Democrats, especially the super-delegates, need to consider that very carefully.

Trump's voters will come out to vote. Hillary does not excite that kind of affection, admiration or loyalty among as large a group of potential voters.

Bernie will probably do very well in Oregon and California, and it behooves Hillary and her supporters to be a lot more courteous and respectful of Bernie voters than they have been or are being. That's my advice after many, many years of watching campaigns.

In other words, if you believe you are winning, win gracefully. The premature gloating by Hillary supporters on DU is not a winning strategy.

Hillary is going to need more than the votes she has won in the primaries to win the White House. They are not going to come from Trump supporters. If they come at all, they have to come from Bernie supporters.

Same for Bernie supporters. Be gentle with the mislead and foolish Hillary supporters. Bernie will need them in November if he wins at the convention.

[riversedge]

54. Hillary will shatter that glass ceiling.....

Yes she will

[c588415]

55. I would like to see Hillary shatter Trump's jaw with her shoe

[beastie boy]

2. Only 97% of remaining delegates?

Totally doable!

Go Bernie!

[FarPoint]

6. Ha-ha

No, it is not...don't hold your breath any longer.. Sanders is done....lost.

[SkyIsGrey]

46. Awesome!

The public is going to have a choice between a narcissistic bigot and a sociopathic right wing war monger.

AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!

[The Second Stone]

15. That's no Hill for a climber

climber keep going till they get to the top.

[beastie boy]

18. Define "top".

Is it getting 1,000 out of remaining 1100 delegates?

Hey, no sweat, Bernie can do it in his sleep!

[The Second Stone]

20. All us Hillary bots are really nervous about the

impending 80 percentage point primary loses.

[beastie boy]

27. Suuure...

The hillary bots you hang out with are really delusional.

[Loudestlib]

25. Clinton needs 73 percent of pledged delegates.

Go Hillary!

(but seriously go)

[beastie boy]

26. No, Hillary needs 15% of pledged delegates.

Because superdelegates DO count in the total needed for nomination.

[Loudestlib]

36. Another new account. So many of you....

[beastie boy]

37. Are you replying to me or my account?

If you want to argue with my account and its age, let me step aside and watch the two of you duke it out...

[Loudestlib]

39. That depends.

How many people operate that account?

[beastie boy]

43. I am not sure. How many people operate DU?

That many plus one. And an occasional jury of seven.

So take your pick who or what you want to argue with. If it's my account you have issues with, I will step aside and enjoy the spectacle, thank you.

[riversedge]

45. You will enjoy this updated tracker for Delegates..

Los Angeles Times Verified account
?@latimes

Clinton wins Guam while Sanders picks up delegates in Washington state. An updated tracker: http://lat.ms/1NmVoA5

[JDPriestly]

28. Not necessary. It can be an open convention with no candidate having won enough

votes to prevail. That is when it will get interesting.

[beastie boy]

32. If Hillary gets zero delegates from all remaining states except California

and loses California by 10-15%, she still gets over the top before the convention.

Lots of luck to Bernie trying to convince over 700 superdelegates to switch sides...

[mahannah]

3. Guam ?

[annavictorious]

5. Don't make the same mistake

Sanders supporter Tim Robbins made.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/times-bernie-sanders-surrogate-trouble/story?id=38395592

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/04/tim-robbins-figures-that-clintons-south-carolina-win-is-about-as-important-as-winning-guam/

[Plucketeer]

4. This is exciting!

Do you 'spose she'll sweep eniwetok too???

[annavictorious]

7. You mean like she swept

New York, Massachusetts, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Maryland, and Texas?

How big and self-important of you to discount a small island that's only 7.1% white. Must be a confederate territory.

[msongs]

23. well we all know what bernie thinks about voters in the south...the south of the north pacific lol

[leftofcool]

8. Bernie could have had the Guam delegates but your buddy Robbins fucked it up for him.

Guam just assured Hillary of her 2383 mark.

[Surya Gayatri]

10. K & R most enthusiastically.

[SunSeeker]

11. Love trumps hate.

[Iliyah]

16. WOW, they lined up to cuss and harass HRC supporters

and the supporters took the high road and came out looking like the adults in the room - LOL

Go HRC supporters!

[JDPriestly]

29. They were in the free speech zone.

They were exercising their right to free speech as were the Hillary supporters.

If we believe in the First Amendment then we support the right of protestors to protest in the free speech areas. That is a California campus tradition.

[SunSeeker]

38. If these protesters believed in free speech they wouldn't try to shut down Hillary's speech. nt.

[JDPriestly]

58. With regard to the protestors inside the auditorium, that can be argued.

But as for the protestors outside, no. They did not stop Hillary from exercising her free speech.

This is a weak argument. Free speech is generally encouraged on campuses in certain areas in California. As I said, that is where you can go to register voters. I used the free speech areas to register voters for Obama.

[SunSeeker]

59. They were not registering voters, they were harassing them.

They were trying to intimidate Hillary supporters. They did manage to scare some kids. They were just hurling profanity and nonsensical chants. They should be ashamed of themselves.

[Metric System]

30. You have no idea how much I love this photo. Many other Hillary supporters obviously feel the same

way since I've seen it tweeted a lot.

[onehandle]

50. Loser jerks.

So glad they failed to get their unicorn.

President Hillary Clinton. Get used to it.

[DCBob]

52. What a bunch of jerks.

[Kingofalldems]

13. She cheated!!

Bill Clinton talked to someone in line!!!!1!!

[Fuddnik]

17. Guam doesn't count.

Just like Main.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

24. If I am not mistaken a lot of kids from Guam

Are in the military too.

They really do have skin in the game as to who they want leading the military

[wendylaroux]

33. lol,you mean the woman who will keep them in war?

that's funny.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

34. apparently they seem to prefer her to your guy.

[riversedge]

42. Congrats to Hillary and her Team.

[riversedge]

44. REC. and Thank you.

[OnlinePoker]

47. Guam's population is only 165,000

How can they have 5 superdelegates? Wyoming, with 3 times the population (and 3 times the ballots cast for the Democratic ticket in 2012) only has 4.

[Tarheel_Dem]

48. K&R!

[baldguy]

49. Came here to mock the CT peddlers. Too late.

[riversedge]

53. That is a very nice photo of Hillary--in the OP.

[fred v]

56. Kicking

Original Thread

[greatlaurel]

57. Kick!

Thank you to our Guam bothers and sisters!

Go Hillary!

[riversedge]

60. Congratulations. Hillary Clinton Declared Winner of Guam Democratic Caucuses -

Deborah Bingham and 1 other liked
Donna Brazile Verified account ?@donnabrazile 21h21 hours ago Daytona Beach, FL

Congratulations. Hillary Clinton Declared Winner of Guam Democratic Caucuses - ABC News - http://abcn.ws/1Xe7ei6 via @ABC.

[DesertRat]

61. Kick!