Wall Street Donors Flocking to Clinton

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Source: Commondreams by Lauren McCauley, Staff Writer

Now that Donald Trump has secured his position as the presumptive Republican nominee, Wall Street donors are fleeing the party and throwing their support behind Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton. A Wall Street Journal analysis published late Sunday found that the former secretary of state "has raised $4.2 million in total from Wall Street, $344,000 of which was contributed in March alone."In fact, Clinton has seen a surge in financial sector donations since business-friendly Republican candidates—namely former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio—dropped out of the race.

According to the newspaper's reporting on fundraising data provided by the Center for Responsive Politics, "the former secretary of state received 53 percent of the donations from Wall Street in March, up from 32 percent last year and 33 percent in January through February, as the nominating contests began." WSJ notes that "Trump, by contrast, hasn’t garnered more than 1 percent of Wall Street contributions in any month through March," although the New York billionaire is expected to be much more active in soliciting donations for the general election.

The report further cites an analysis by the nonpartisan crowdfunding resource Crowdpac, which found that "more than 500 donors, including many Wall Street executives, who gave more than $200 to a Republican who later dropped out, including Messrs. Bush and Rubio, have since given to Mrs. Clinton," WSJ wrote. In total, Clinton has received a full third of all money that business interests have donated to presidential campaigns on both sides of the aisle.The numbers represent a significant shift from the conventional wisdom that the GOP is beholden to big business while Democrats are supposed to represent the concerns of the people.

Politico reported last week that Clinton supporters have been aggressively courting top Bush family donors "to try to convince them that she represents their values better than Donald Trump." Those fundraising calls are part of an overall effort by the campaign to position Clinton as the standard bearer of neoconservative ideals. In response to the Politico report, Bernie Sanders' campaign manager Jeff Weaver sent an email to supporters on Saturday chiding Clinton for soliciting those funds, writing: "you cannot change a corrupt system by taking its money."
Indeed, as Republican lobbyist Ed Rogers told the WSJ, "Business interests are generally not sold on the notion that Trump will be a more business-friendly candidate; there’s a lot about Trump they don’t know," such as his positions on regulation and trade policy. "They know Hillary," Rogers added. "And they know that she is not antibusiness."

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[onehandle]

1. Well, she is our next President. Makes sense.

She'll need even more money, since so much was wasted backing a unicorn.

[Scootaloo]

3. Ours, or theirs?

[JDPriestly]

8. Best post of the year, Scootaloo.

[Plucketeer]

12. Perfect!

[Eleanors38]

27. heh.

[bigwillq]

39. Theirs

as pretty much most politicians are.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

54. Theirs, of course. You do realize other than Bernie Sanders no human being alive

in either party with enough popularity and power to be elected who isnt, right?

You do realize that basically all politicians in both parties, other than Bernie, are corrupted, right?

[Ohioblue22]

60. Yeah good one cause every sector of America gets it's own president

Jeez hilarious

[DonCoquixote]

14. let's not pretend

she would not have come crawling and kowtowing to them anyway; all Sanders was able to do was make her delay doing that in public.

[onehandle]

16. The tens of millions spent on him and the tens of millions she had to spend during the primary...

...could have been tens of millions if not hundreds of millions less she would need from Wall Street.

Let's not pretend that's not so.

[zalinda]

22. His supporters gave him tens of millions

they did not give the money to her. They don't support her. And, if the superdelegates were not involved, it would be a much more even race.

Crowning her to save money is one of the worse reasons I've heard for her to be the only Democrat running.

Z

[Eleanors38]

29. ...and money well spent in developing a permanent post-election organization.

[libdem4life]

30. OMG...the audacity of someone to oppose her.

It would have been so much cheaper if everyone had just stayed in their place...behind Hillary. Oh Bernie, such a rabble rouser. LOL

[DonCoquixote]

58. and do you think that would have stopped her

from going to wall street and asking for more more more...when has she NOT? IF bernie was not in this election, she would have gone straight to wall street, period.

[Kall]

61. The sense of entitlement is staggering.

[Kip Humphrey]

2. "Clinton as the standard bearer of neoconservative ideals."

[yallerdawg]

4. "A godless liberal Democrat...

or Hillary Clinton." -- Church Lady.

Thank you Bernie supporters for confusing the hell out of Republicans!

[lastone]

5. but but but she's a progressive right - wants to help the working people of this country!

Right?!



Hill, baby - where are the transcripts, what do you have hidden in them that you are SO AFRAID of?

Same ole same ole - another heir to the presidency selling out as soon as they smell power.

Makes me sick.

[NewImproved Deal]

6. Yep...

One big cozy Oligarchy...

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[Plucketeer]

10. The caption to the above photo....

"I don't know - that's what they were offering!"

[Thinkingabout]

9. Wall Street executives, yes, donors, employees are allowed to contribute to candidates of their

choice, happens Wall Street is located in NY and has large numbers of employees there. Good for Hillary. Donations are welcome.

[Plucketeer]

11. So - your laughable contention is that

if Wall St. was in any other state, there'd be a dearth of donations?

[Thinkingabout]

15. No, don't try to rewrite my post, Wall Street is located in NY, Hillary was their senator at one

time, she probably has many supporters from employees of Wall Street. Just as Sanders would have the support of employees of Lockheed Martin, would it be wrong for employees of Lockheed Martin to donate to Sanders?

[zalinda]

23. Hillary ONLY worked for wall street

when she was a Senator here. She did nothing for the rest of the state. If she had been so good, it wouldn't have been this close.

http://graphics.latimes.com/election-2016-new-york-results/

Z

[Thinkingabout]

25. Oh, really, then trying to increase the minumin wage was only going to help

Wall Street employees, also pushing to get ACA passed only helped employees from Wall Street. Denial of facts does not result in truth.

[zalinda]

35. If that's the only 2 things you've got in 8 years. LOL eom

[Thinkingabout]

45. No, just pointing out a couple of quick points showing the irony of your post.

[hughee99]

44. So if I understand correctly, your contention is that her support for the ACA and minimum wage while

serving as the Senator from New York shows her support for non-wall-street New Yorkers.

[Plucketeer]

24. So, Lockheed-Martin is a moving force in Vermont?

Whata they produce there? Stealth Syrup??

[Thinkingabout]

28. F-35, Bernie knows about the F-35, big cost over runs, now over one

Trillion and will probably grow more. All the looking into MIC's has been dropped.

[zalinda]

37. Says you. And, of course I believe everything you say. eom

[Thinkingabout]

42. Maybe these links will help.

Try some of these sources:

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/24583-bernie-sanders-doubles-down-on-f-35-support-days-after-runway-explosion


https://www.bluenationreview.com/bernie-sanders-backs-f-35/


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https://m.

There are more if you need them.

[Plucketeer]

38. And what...

Hillary's gonna ditch it?

[zalinda]

74. Yes, of course..........she, who can do no wrong. eom

[oldandhappy]

33. The election map was fascinating.

The whole state was Bernie except for Buffalo and NYC area. This tells me a lot about the population base in the state. Massive numbers of NY people live in the NYC area -- massive. And that is where people were disenfranchised. No complaints from the rest of the state. HMMMMMMM

[Eleanors38]

32. "Wallstreet... has large numbers of employees:" My god, the lumpenproletariat?!

[Akicita]

13. This is very disconcerting. That the Wall Street Masters realize that the candidate that can be

bought and paid for is the Democrat. Hoping even more for a Bernie upset now although I realize the deck is being stacked against him by the one percenters and their establishment Democrat servants.

[Thinkingabout]

17. Bought and paid for as NRA donation to defeat Sanders for his election to congress has resulted

in many votes which was to the NRA desires? Yep, bought and paid for.

[Akicita]

18. lol

[Thinkingabout]

19. Can you point to an incident where Hillary was bought and paid?

[Akicita]

21. Specific quid pro quo instances are hard to prove. Bribes are usually not paid in cash. Usually they

are campaign donations or donations to foundations controlled by the politician. Then the politician just denies the donations had anything to do with their decisions when they just happen to benefit the donor. Sometimes the quid pro quo is legal such as when President's reward their biggest donors with ambassadorships. Is it good for our country to have someone representing our foreign policy in a foreign country whose only qualification is that they are rich and were a big donated to the President? No. But it happens all the time.

Do disagree with the notion that Wall Streeter and the one percent in general have an undue influence over the governance of our country by using their money to control or influence politicians and the party elite of both parties? I imagine different politicians are controlled to different degrees. But it is a corrupt system. And now they appear to be giving all their money to Hillary.

[Thinkingabout]

34. Yoi just nailed down what has happened to Sanders. The NRA donated $18.000 to

Help defeat Sanders opponent when he was elected to congress, they were rewarded with five votes against the Brady Bill.

[Akicita]

46. $18k would get you a seat in the kitchen at some of Hillary's fundraisers.

She made ten times that amount just giving a speech to Wall Street. Many times over. The NRA just has huge influence on a single issue. Wall Street and the one percent control our entire government to some degree.

Nice try on the moral equivalency thing though.

[Thinkingabout]

47. But it will not buy five votes against the Brady Bill from Clinton.

[Akicita]

51. If you only care about a single issue and that issue is gun control you have a point.

If you care about the fate of the entire middle and lower classes in this country then your point is moot.

[Thinkingabout]

56. No, just one in which I posted, there are more. This is a point we know Sanders was

Influenced, we have not seen the same of Hillary getting influenced. Good possibility Sanders was influenced on other votes as well.

[Akicita]

57. We don't know that he was influenced by the NRA at all.. It is much more likely he was influenced by

by his constituency. Vermont has a pro-gun culture.

What other issues do you think Bernie has been bought off on that you think are more important than the fate of the entire middle and lower classes?

[Thinkingabout]

59. Then saying Hillary is influenced by whoever or whatever which has not happened,

And using your same reasoning, Wall Street is located in NY. What if she is responding to her constituents, by your reasoning it is ok.

[Akicita]

62. BINGO!! Once you realize Hillary's real constituents are Wall Street and the one percent it all

makes sense doesn't it. She hasn't officially represented Wall Street for years. Now she just represents them for the money.

[Thinkingabout]

64. Prove it.

[Akicita]

66. I don't have to prove it. See reply #21. I and most others in this country believe Wall Street, big

business, and the rest of the one percent, spend big bucks to influence politicians. I and many others believe that money has a corrupting effect on the pols who take it. All that money now seems to be going to Hillary. It's just common sense to think she plays the game. Why else would they be giving her all that money?

I think Jeb Bush also plays the game in a big way. That's why he received so much money from the one percent. The repub base defeated him in spite of all that money, or maybe because of it. That Hillary and her family set up a foundation to receive millions from the one percent is further evidence that she plays the game.

[Thinkingabout]

67. The word is believe, but it does not make it true.

[Akicita]

68. Correct. It is based on common sense not proof.

The more establishment a candidate is, the more likely they play the game. Both Bush and Hillary are as establishment as you can get so it makes sense that Jeb was getting by far the most money in his party and now that money is shifting to Hillary.

[Thinkingabout]

69. No, commom sense is not proof, common sense determines if something sounds too good to be true then

Probably isn't true.

Common sense tells me an unrealistic agenda is going to cost around $17 trillion dollars over ten years, others doesn't see the cost.

[Akicita]

70. I said common sense, not proof. I did not say common sense is proof. Reread my post.

[Thinkingabout]

75. I was agreeing, common sense is not proof

[Akicita]

76. If you were agreeing with me why did you preface your "common sense is not proof" with the word No?

Or to put it another way, if I said "It is based on common sense, not proof" and the first word of your reply is "No" how am I supposed to think you are agreeing with me?

Confusing.

[Akicita]

73. Common sense means if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like duck, you can be

pretty sure it is a duck.

Nice job trying to shift the discussion topic whenever your arguments are getting thin. Kind of obvious though. First it was guns, now it is 17 trillion. The topic of this post is Wall Street Donors Flocking to Hillary.

[Thinkingabout]

78. Ok, if you say so, yep, Sanders was influenced, plain and simple, give votes against the

Brady Bill, not the only problem but it weighs heavy on my decision.

[Akicita]

79. If you think Bernie was influenced, either by the NRA or his constinuency, and it weighs heavily on

your mind, that's fine. People differ on what issues are the most important to them and that issue is obviously very important to you.

[Plucketeer]

40. My goodness

your comedic side shines today!

[Eleanors38]

36. My goodness, the NRA does triple duty! When in doubt...nt

[Thinkingabout]

48. His voting record lasts forever.

[bjo59]

20. Yeah, Wall Street donors and the wealthiest of celebrities. People with bucketloads of

investments to protect from the horrors of taxation. Everyone knows that only the little people should have to pay taxes. That policy didn't work out so well for the Roman Empire in the end and it won't work out well for this empire either. Short sightedness is the surest way to ultimate defeat.

[FLPanhandle]

26. Since Trump would destroy the economy, it makes sense.

They and all of us would lose everything in a Trump economy and they know it.

[Salviati]

31. Indeed, every sane person in this country should be flocking to whoever the democratic nominee is.

I'm not going to begrudge Clinton for them pursuing her...

[ebayfool]

41. The money shot is ...

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In total, Clinton has received a full third of all money that business interests have donated to presidential campaigns on both sides of the aisle.The numbers represent a significant shift from the conventional wisdom that the GOP is beholden to big business while Democrats are supposed to represent the concerns of the people.

[Adrahil]

43. Yeah, they've HEARD The Donald talk about economic policy.

Not much a choice, really!

[Akicita]

49. You're right. They certainly wouldn't choose Bernie. But we still can.

[Adrahil]

50. Good luck with that! NT

[Akicita]

52. Thanks.

[Rass]

53. Like Coke vs Pepsi

[CobaltBlue]

55. Rass—I like Coke.

[Kingofalldems]

77. Pure nonsense.

[Ohioblue22]

63. Of course because Bernie is un-electable , Trump is unstable they would rather have her than trump

[0rganism]

65. yep, the new coalition is forming already

socially liberal, economically neo-liberal, foreign policy hawkish - the new Democratic center
i'm counting on Bernie to insert some economically progressive planks into the Democratic platform so the 90% don't get left behind completely. we're lucky he ran during a realignment primary.

[forest444]

71. Imagine that.

She's Ms. Status Quo as far as Wall Street banksters are concerned - more even than Trump.

[EndElectoral]

72. They are flocking to her because they don't want influence.

[tammywammy]

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