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jpak

(41,760 posts)
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:22 AM May 2016

Best-paid U.S. hedge fund managers take home $13 billion

Source: Business Insider

BOSTON (Reuters) - Hedge funds lost money for their investors last year but the industry's top-paid managers had a banner year, with five men earning more than $1 billion each in 2015, an industry survey released on Tuesday showed. (See the survey http://www.institutionalinvestorsalpha.com/HedgeFundRichList.html)

Together, the 25 best-paid hedge fund managers took home $13 billion, 10 percent more than the previous year. For many, computer models played a critical role in their success, according to Institutional Investor's Alpha's 15th annual ranking of the industry's highest-earning managers. (See the top-10 highest compensated hedge fund managers )

Citadel's Kenneth Griffin, who started trading from his Harvard dormitory in the 1980s, and Renaissance Technologies' James Simons, a former code breaker who launched his fund in 1982, each took home $1.7 billion in 2015 to tie for top honors. In 2014, they also took home 10 figures each but slightly less than in 2015, to claim the No. 1 and No. 2 spots.

Bridgewater's Raymond Dalio, Appaloosa Management's David Tepper and Millennium Management's Israel (Izzy) Englander rounded out the top five spots, with each man making more than an $1 billion in 2015, the survey shows.

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Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/r-best-paid-us-hedge-fund-managers-take-home-13-billion--2016-5



These delicate flowers needs a Trump tax cut!!1111

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Best-paid U.S. hedge fund managers take home $13 billion (Original Post) jpak May 2016 OP
I'm pretty sure Clinton is the one owing them favors. onecaliberal May 2016 #1
... GummyBearz May 2016 #3
Why would you think so mrr303am May 2016 #8
They're the ones giving her money scscholar May 2016 #26
And 8 years after the crash My Good Babushka May 2016 #2
Hey come on now GummyBearz May 2016 #4
I obviously picked the wrong profession eom LittleGirl May 2016 #5
We should start a Democratic Hedge Fund houston16revival May 2016 #6
I bet the worst paid ones aren't hurting, either. bluedigger May 2016 #7
Where I come from I Bought the Law May 2016 #9
I don't get it. JohnnyRingo May 2016 #10
as long as they pay a fair tax rate, i dont have a problem. mopinko May 2016 #12
I agree. JohnnyRingo May 2016 #14
Its not so much about how much money they swept d_legendary1 May 2016 #22
They must be really brilliant and hard working milestogo May 2016 #11
i know a little bit about citadel. mopinko May 2016 #13
Warren Buffett Phil1934 May 2016 #15
Do you realize that if you had just 1 billion dollars when you were 30... Kablooie May 2016 #16
What concerns me is - packman May 2016 #17
worth every penny Demonaut May 2016 #18
Sounds great to me! Victor_c3 May 2016 #19
If memory serves, sulphurdunn May 2016 #20
The funds LOST money, but the managers made out like bandits? intrepidity May 2016 #21
We used to call that fraud d_legendary1 May 2016 #23
Heroes of capitalism moondust May 2016 #24
What a waste of resources. nt valerief May 2016 #25
 

mrr303am

(159 posts)
8. Why would you think so
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:58 AM
May 2016

Could it be all the speaking fees she received from them, can't be that she told us so.
Maybe she just wants to make sure her son-in-law is able to provide for her daughter, since he's employed at a hedge fund firm, can't fault her there we'd all do the same for our children if we could.

My Good Babushka

(2,710 posts)
2. And 8 years after the crash
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:31 AM
May 2016

We continue to reward pump and dump capitalists that get rich on market manipulations. They do nothing, add nothing, and extract all the resources out of the economy.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
4. Hey come on now
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:34 AM
May 2016

Shuffling paper around on your desk counts as doing something. TBH these guys are literally robbing the rich blind (though it is for their own selfish reasons, they are not modern day robin hoods). The fees they charge and the typically less than market return they deliver is hilarious. Rich people give them tons of money to lose their money... mind boggling

houston16revival

(953 posts)
6. We should start a Democratic Hedge Fund
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:01 AM
May 2016

Hedge fund managers are simply good traders with contacts

Good traders without contacts can do well too, just likely not $Billion well

Proprietary trader is an actual profession that trains hedge fund managers

All of this has grown up over the last 30 years with internet, computer
number crunching, technical analysis

bluedigger

(17,088 posts)
7. I bet the worst paid ones aren't hurting, either.
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:52 AM
May 2016

Unless you get caught by the Feds it's a no fail business.

JohnnyRingo

(18,670 posts)
10. I don't get it.
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:09 PM
May 2016

Are they overpaid, and if so, what is wrong with that? If they do a job in a way that no one else can, why should there be a cap on what they're compensated? They aren't baseball players.

Warren Buffet is probably the most prolific investor in the world and that earned him a spot as one of the wealthiest men in the world. That's how it's supposed to work in the private sector.

That doesn't mean regular working people aren't underpaid, they are, but cutting the pay of hedge fund managers wouldn't improve the lives of the working class one iota. Who's next, are we going to complain about how much money Bruce Springsteen takes home?

This article is meant as a piece on the country's top investors but is being used here as a prime example of the evil wage gap. Raise the floor, don't lower the ceiling.

JohnnyRingo

(18,670 posts)
14. I agree.
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:21 PM
May 2016

But the overall response seems to be that they're greedy for sweeping up so much money. The team owners use the same logic to enact salary caps on sports figures.

Indeed, the very next reply behind this one could be right out of an NFL team owner's mouth.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
22. Its not so much about how much money they swept
Tue May 10, 2016, 02:39 PM
May 2016

but how they are sweeping it. The housing crisis occurred because of NINJA Loans (No Income, No Job or Assets) that went largely unregulated. The Financial Crisis (credit default swaps based on NINJA Loans that were sold to retirement funds) assured them a guaranteed pay day that cost people their retirements. Not only did they take money from our 401(k)s, they also insured a bad product (NINJA Loans) and caused AIG to fail. Though several financial institutions failed (Countrywide, Lehman Bros.) as a result they were quickly bought out by the competition that saw what was going on (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase). In short they created assets out of thin air, sold them to us, and got paid with real money when their assets became liabilities to the asset holders.

It should be no surprise to anyone how they make hundreds of billions of dollars while the working class investments continue to shrivel up.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
11. They must be really brilliant and hard working
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:10 PM
May 2016

to be worth so much more money than the rest of us.


mopinko

(70,276 posts)
13. i know a little bit about citadel.
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

they are based here in chi. they have a rep for paying top computer people great wages, but they work them to death. the people that i knew who worked for them all burned out in a couple of years.
my ex could have worked for them, they offered him long dough. but he knew too many people who thought griffen was one of the worst tyrants in a tie ever.

 

Phil1934

(49 posts)
15. Warren Buffett
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:22 PM
May 2016

bet a hedge fund manager $1 million to go to charity he could pick a market index fund and outperform a hedge fund after one year. He is winning.

Kablooie

(18,644 posts)
16. Do you realize that if you had just 1 billion dollars when you were 30...
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:42 PM
May 2016

You'd have a guaranteed income of well over 16 million dollars a year until you were 100 years old.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
17. What concerns me is -
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:44 PM
May 2016

"earning" that much - where does it come from? Eventually, someone, somewhere has to pay for it.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
19. Sounds great to me!
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:27 PM
May 2016

I don't see the problem. Why are people being shamed for being rich? They obviously work harder than the rest of us.

Everyone in America can be rich if they are willing to work hard enough. Instead of begging for a livable wage of $15 an hour all of those minimum wage workers need to get jobs being billionaire hedge fund managers.

Fuck the poor! If they want their vote to count then they should own corporations and donate to a super pack.

poor people don't deserve a livable wage and healthcare. Those worthless eaters would be better off dead!

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
20. If memory serves,
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:32 PM
May 2016

the year the economy crashed the top 12 or so of these 'entrepreneurs' took in more than the combined deficits of all 50 states. Millions of people lost their homes, livelihoods and life savings. Many lost their families, their minds, and even their lives. The hedge fund gamblers were largely successful creating that investment opportunity because they bet on the global economic collapse they helped engineer.

moondust

(20,017 posts)
24. Heroes of capitalism
Tue May 10, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

seemingly do absolutely nothing to benefit anybody other than themselves. The guy who picked up my trash a couple hours ago would seem to have more intrinsic value than a hedge fund manager, yet is only paid a tiny fraction of what the hedge fund Gods extract.

I'll take "Insider Trading" for a billion, Alex.

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