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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:46 PM May 2016

72-year-old woman becomes first time mom thanks to IVF

Source: SF GATE

A 72-year old woman in India became a first time mom thanks to a controversial fertility clinic that helps women well-past menopause age become pregnant through in vitro fertilization.

Whether or not new mom Daljinder Kaur is the oldest woman ever to give birth remains to be seen, as she's not really sure how old she is. Kaur says she is seven years younger than her husband, who is 79. The two have been married for 49 years, and have remained childless - until now.

"We will raise him and give him a proper education," Kaur told the Telegraph. "I had faith in Almighty that I will have my own baby, and Waheguru answered my prayers.&quot Waheguru is the Sikh term for God.)

After spotting an advertisement from the The National Fertility and Test Tube Baby Centre in Hisar, India, Kaur and her husband began to visit the clinic. With the help of their team at the clinic, the couple has been trying to conceive since 2013, and endured two failed IVF attempts before becoming pregnant last July. The fertility clinic has come under fire for encouraging older women to have babies.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/72-year-old-becomes-first-time-mom-thanks-to-IVF-7444457.php

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72-year-old woman becomes first time mom thanks to IVF (Original Post) Jesus Malverde May 2016 OP
Does the baby houston16revival May 2016 #1
Given that mother's decisions, the answer would clearly be "No". Nihil May 2016 #46
And if the parents live a normal life expectancy, the boy will be an orphan at age eight Doctor_J May 2016 #2
I agree MissDeeds May 2016 #4
And if they live a much longer life TexasMommaWithAHat May 2016 #8
Based on "normal" life expectancy, the kid will be on borrowed time from its birth. Xithras May 2016 #31
My grandpa remarried late & fathered a baby at 70 wordpix May 2016 #43
Ghad what a horrid idea... Boxerfan May 2016 #3
Exactly what I was thinking, Old Vet May 2016 #37
Who would want to die when their child is so young? FLPanhandle May 2016 #5
in India ? why not adopt ? JI7 May 2016 #6
Indian laws do not allow an adoption if the parents are older then 45 irisblue May 2016 #10
But they've been married 49 years? Blue_Tires May 2016 #47
Her body. And selfish. TexasMommaWithAHat May 2016 #7
Great, the poor kid is going to be stuck caring for elderly parents before he will smirkymonkey May 2016 #9
Sure they did. Me me me me me me me me me and finally mini me. You know, same as all the 72-yr-old valerief May 2016 #22
That seems a bit selfish. PersonNumber503602 May 2016 #11
I wouldn't want to be 94 years old going to my kid's college graduation (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #12
I am a healthy 72 and I cannot imagine beveeheart May 2016 #13
Sheesh and I thought I started late. Egnever May 2016 #14
Well Tony Randall fathered two whistler162 May 2016 #15
And died when they were young Liberal_in_LA May 2016 #23
Patton Oswalt mentioned this in one of his stand-up shows. Crowman1979 May 2016 #16
She must be nuts. Vinca May 2016 #17
Now, now Elmergantry May 2016 #18
Trump voters feel the same wordpix May 2016 #44
I think she is selfish Marrah_G May 2016 #19
Maybe that's what they had in mind Bayard May 2016 #36
I can't recall any man who fathered children at that age being called selfish. alarimer May 2016 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #21
No it's not sexist, it's because both parents are old FLPanhandle May 2016 #24
I'd rationalize it as such too if my bias depended on it. LanternWaste May 2016 #29
No rationalization needed. FLPanhandle May 2016 #33
Agreed. forkol May 2016 #35
I think the same rules apply. Throd May 2016 #34
It's because both parents are so old that it is selfish Marrah_G May 2016 #41
Maybe I am the only one who has a different take on this situation zalinda May 2016 #25
This! And super this! Silver_Witch May 2016 #27
I agree with your post. hamsterjill May 2016 #38
Ooh, Delphinus May 2016 #40
+10000 exactly ^^^^ wordpix May 2016 #45
She better hang tough!won't be easy going to a parent teacher conference at 89! peace13 May 2016 #26
But just think... KansDem May 2016 #30
I'm not sure she'll be up for the demands of rearing a child enid602 May 2016 #28
Sounds like a recipe for a tragedy. WhiteTara May 2016 #32
Why? Delphinus May 2016 #39
Humans don't like limits The2ndWheel May 2016 #42
 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
46. Given that mother's decisions, the answer would clearly be "No".
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:23 AM
May 2016

What a sick & disgustingly selfish pair of individuals (and what a tragic orphan in waiting).

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
2. And if the parents live a normal life expectancy, the boy will be an orphan at age eight
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:06 PM
May 2016

This act seems rather selfish

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
8. And if they live a much longer life
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:16 PM
May 2016

the child will be caring for them as a teenager and young man. Even with wealth, someone in the family has to be in charge.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
31. Based on "normal" life expectancy, the kid will be on borrowed time from its birth.
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:15 AM
May 2016

The average life expectancy in INDIA is 63.5 years. The average life expectancy in Haryana, the state where this couple lives, is 66.2. Factor in the gender gap in life expectancy in India, and the average woman is dead before her 68th birthday.

The HIGHEST average life expectancy in India is among women in Kerala, which is just short of 78 years old. That would make the kid an orphan at eight...but they don't live anywhere near Kerala.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
43. My grandpa remarried late & fathered a baby at 70
Thu May 12, 2016, 01:10 AM
May 2016

He died a few years later. Baby grew into a fine young man. Luckily wife #2 had lots of family and our side took him under wing, too.

Boxerfan

(2,533 posts)
3. Ghad what a horrid idea...
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:11 PM
May 2016

I can't imagine any ethical physician performing the IVF on a elderly patient....

The other implications are un fathomable from a caring person-They are selfish & stupid-and sadly cruel to a possible life.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
5. Who would want to die when their child is so young?
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:14 PM
May 2016

Sorry to be so judgmental, but these seem like very selfish people. More concerned about what they want instead of what's best for a child.

Pathetic people.

irisblue

(32,968 posts)
10. Indian laws do not allow an adoption if the parents are older then 45
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:16 PM
May 2016

I learned that from the BBC interview with the attending physician. I imagine the laws have not caught up with IVF yet.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
47. But they've been married 49 years?
Fri May 13, 2016, 09:01 AM
May 2016

perhaps they might have tried when they were still in their 30s?

Or does the baby not count if it isn't their genes?

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
7. Her body. And selfish.
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:15 PM
May 2016
Selfish. Selfish. Selfish. Selfish.

It's bad enough when an older guy has a child with a younger wife, but at least that child will likely grow up with one parent.

This is beyond lunacy, and should be against the law. I don't care what anyone says. It should be against the law.
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. Great, the poor kid is going to be stuck caring for elderly parents before he will
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:06 PM
May 2016

even be old enough to drive. These people are selfish idiots. Did they actually think this through?

valerief

(53,235 posts)
22. Sure they did. Me me me me me me me me me and finally mini me. You know, same as all the 72-yr-old
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:12 AM
May 2016

fathers that have ALWAYS been around. We now have more of them thanks to Viagra.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
15. Well Tony Randall fathered two
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:16 AM
May 2016

children after the age of 75. 'Though his second wife was much younger when she gave birth.

 

Elmergantry

(884 posts)
18. Now, now
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:21 AM
May 2016

Lets not be moralizing....stop being so judgmental.

....If it makes you happy, it cant be that bad...

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
19. I think she is selfish
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:27 AM
May 2016

There is a very good chance the child will be either an orphan or nursing his elderly parents before he can even vote.

Bayard

(22,061 posts)
36. Maybe that's what they had in mind
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:23 PM
May 2016

To have a built in caregiver, and someone to leave their fortune to.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
20. I can't recall any man who fathered children at that age being called selfish.
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:34 AM
May 2016

Don't the same rules apply? i mean, the kid would (presumably) have to care for an elderly father.

The criticism seems a big strong and pretty sexist.

Response to alarimer (Reply #20)

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
24. No it's not sexist, it's because both parents are old
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:20 AM
May 2016

If she was having a child with a 35 year old man, then the child wouldn't be a orphan before leaving elementary school.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. I'd rationalize it as such too if my bias depended on it.
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:44 AM
May 2016

I'd rationalize it as such too if my bias depended on it. No doubt, we all like to pretend we know what's best for others... and no doubt, we'll justify it as absurdly as possible to prevent the possibility that we're not as clever as we pretend to be.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
33. No rationalization needed.
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:33 AM
May 2016

There is no rationalization required to observe the fact the child will be an orphan at an early age.

Your post says more your thought process when confronted with that simple fact.

forkol

(113 posts)
35. Agreed.
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:08 PM
May 2016

How do we know it's not these younger wives that want the child?

I actually think that's the case more often than not. If they really didn't want a baby, then I think they know how to NOT have one. Hell, they can even lie!

"Uh, I can't seem to get pregnant. Could it be because of your age, honey?"

Throd

(7,208 posts)
34. I think the same rules apply.
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:39 AM
May 2016

I can think of lots of male celebrities who had children past their 60's. I always considered them selfish.

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
25. Maybe I am the only one who has a different take on this situation
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:34 AM
May 2016

Yes, I think it's selfish, but for a different reason. We don't need another child in this world. If they are wealthy enough to afford to have IVF, they are wealthy enough to travel to another country and adopt, if it is not allowed in India.

We need more people on this planet like we need another hole in our head. I know that there are some women who are so fertile that it becomes almost impossible, in the past. My mother could name each failed birth control method with each of her 6 kids, until the birth control pill was developed and she was done with child bearing. Today there is no reason why someone should have 19 or more kids and be celebrated for it. The days of having a lot of kids in the hopes of a couple of them making it to adulthood is long past.

Z

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
38. I agree with your post.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:08 PM
May 2016

How wonderful would it have been had they adopted a needy child? Perhaps an older child.

No, I don't think that someone having 19 or more kids should be celebrated.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
26. She better hang tough!won't be easy going to a parent teacher conference at 89!
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:37 AM
May 2016

Not sure this was well thought out but thankfully it's not my life to decide.

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
32. Sounds like a recipe for a tragedy.
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:31 AM
May 2016

Baby orphaned at an early age and an exhausted new mother in her 70s.

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