Texas Republicans Inch Closer to Secession

[apnu]

Source: MoJo

If the nationalists get their way, this November might be the last time Texans vote for a US president.

On Wednesday, the Platform Committee of the Texas Republican Party voted to put a Texas independence resolution up for a vote at this week's GOP convention, according to a press release from the pro-secession Texas Nationalist Movement. The resolution calls for allowing voters to decide whether the Lone Star State should become an independent nation.

Texas was, in fact, its own country for nine years before joining the United States in 1845, and while the idea of returning to independence has never been taken seriously by most people, it remains popular as a romantic notion and marketing hook. Lone Star beer is the "national beer of Texas." Texas Monthly is the "national magazine of Texas." In a 2009 rally, then-Governor Rick Perry hinted that the state could secede if "Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people." He later backed off of the idea. (Representatives of the state GOP and Texas Nationalist Movement could not be reached for comment.)

The Texas Nationalist Movement, once considered a quixotic fringe group, has added hundreds of members in the years since the election of Barack Obama. According to the Houston Chronicle's Dylan Baddour, at least 10 county GOP chapters are coming to the convention supporting independence resolutions. But this will be the first time in the state's 171-year history that they will actually vote on one. It's very unlikely to win. Then again, that's what people said about Donald Trump.

Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/texas-republicans-gop-secession-resolution

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Hey that's fine Texas, you can leave. But we want a refund for all the Federal money spent on you since Reconstruction. Oh, and we want all of our federal property back (military assets for example), and if you can't give it back (like national parks) then you have to pay us fair market value.

Do that and you can leave OK?

[hobbit709]

1. Ain't gonna happen. NO legal ground for doing so. Last time didn't work out so well in 1865.

The idiots can vote all they want but it isn't going to happen.

"National Beer of Texas" is an advertising slogan started in the 1970's.

[apnu]

4. Yes this is true. But history is hard for nut-bars. (nt)

[hobbit709]

6. Even here in TX they're a minority.

[awoke_in_2003]

56. Yep

the economy would collapse even more if this dumbass state seceded. Who would they sell their good (auto and military manufacturing ) to? The US is their largest customer.

[Lucky Luciano]

35. In 1865 blacks were slaves - now a black man is president! ZOMG!!!111!!!11 secede!!!1!!1

[Yupster]

50. Yeah - last time they voted to leave 80 % to 20 % and

it just got them squashed.

By the end of the war 25 % of the adult white men in Texas were dead or wounded and the frontier had been rolled back by as much as 100 miles.

[Reter]

64. But once it happens, it becomes legal

Breaking away from Great Britain was illegal for a minute.

[Darb]

2. Go ahead, then we can bring you to heel, again.

Cannot wait.

[Yupster]

51. A question though

Should there be a legal way for a state to secede?

Most organizations have a way to leave, especially if the organization changes dramatically from the one you originally joined.

[texstad79]

3. We'll keep Texas!

Conservative Texans on the other hand, can take a hike!

[apnu]

5. I like your thinking! (nt)

[silvershadow]

7. Let them go! Please! I'm begging. Let them prove to the world just how fucking stupid

they really are. Then, I say we go ahead and build that wall Trump wants, but we will start in around Texas. That, my friends, would be real fun!!!

[mpcamb]

37. Texas gets back ~$1.45 for each $1 sent to the Feds

Sounds like a good deal, if it wasn't illegal to secede.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

[silvershadow]

38. Oh, thanks for that moocher link! nt

[wryter2000]

8. Imagine their surprise when they don't get their mail

Or their Social Security. Idiots.

[Firebrand Gary]

53. Hahahahaha brilliant!

[hamsterjill]

9. Oh, these people are just idiots.

The few of us who remain even close to sane in Texas know this is complete bullshit. It gets embarrassing that these people get coverage.

[tonyt53]

10. The sane people of TX have hope

After HRC wins in November and a Democrat majority is seated in the Senate, a replacement SCOTUS will be seated. By 2020 another GOP appointed SCOTUS and possibly one Democrat appointment will retire. All of those gerrymandered congressional district will start disappearing in a couple of years and Citizens United will be a passing bad memory. The 2020 census will change many congressional districts, and the 2022 midterms will bring about a huge change in the make-up of Congress. Sanity will once again return to TX and those nuts can go gently into the night. Might as well because they will have no say anyway.

[meow2u3]

61. From your mouth to God's ears

Or more precisely, from your keyboard to God's monitor.

[left-of-center2012]

11. Would Cruz become President of Texas?

[KamaAina]

12. Somehow I don't think they'd cotton to a Canadian president.

[awoke_in_2003]

57. I think the only reason he won the Senate seat

is because people wanted rid of him

[left-of-center2012]

58. They couldn't send him back to Canada

so they sent him to Washington.

[awoke_in_2003]

60. Well...

Connecticut would take back Dunya, either

[world wide wally]

13. They can stay, but let's build a wall around Texas

[PSPS]

14. This feature piece doesn't belong in LBN.

[UpInArms]

39. yah - they better be prepared to have the papers - otherwise we don't want their

vehicles passing into our country and them to be undocumented aliens

[Angry Dragon]

15. They can be part of Mexico

easier for them to cross the border

[Scalded Nun]

16. Hate means never having to do the math

Having a black man in the White House has done wonders to bringing out the worst in this country. The really disheartening piece of all this is that the people of Texas, while being played for fools and blinded by hate, keep electing these evil charlatans.

This state and this country should be truly ashamed.

If somehow this does make the ballot initiative it will be interesting to see just how much detail will be paid to how much money Texas will be forfeiting.

Fuck the people, but the rich do not want to lose out on profit. Secession = reduction in bottom line.

[bvar22]

55. Texas has threatened to secede long before Obama became president.

While racism, fundamentalism, and poverty is BIG in the rural regions,
Texas has some pretty Liberal urban areas. Austin ROCKS.
I've traveled and worked in Texas. The state is beautiful and belongs to us all.
It would be a shame to just throw it away.

Like most places in the United States, you can find what you look for.
If it is bigotry, hate, and division you are looking for, you can find that.
If it is beauty, nature, and enlightenment you are looking for, you can find that too.
If is is great seafood, you can find that too in Galveston (yum).

My Liberal FDR New Deal Pro-LABOR roots are in rural Texas (my parents) close to where Bill Moyers grew up. Where would we be without greats like Molly Ivins, Jim Highlighter, Ann Richards, LBJ and other great Texans who have contributed so much to our country.

I've found Texas Liberals to be courageous, sharp tongued, intelligent, current, and unafraid to share their Liberal beliefs, like this guy:

[font size=1]Photo taken from across the street from the Governor's Mansion[/font]

There will always be those few crazies in Texas (or California, or The South, or The North, or Idaho) who want to secede, and their counterparts screaming for them to go.
I belong to none of these, and just shake my head.

I have been fortunate enough to have traveled, lived and worked in most areas of these United States (Except New England). I want to keep them all, and solve our problems together.

BTW: There are reliable predictions that Texas WILL "turn Blue" in the near future.
I wouldn't want to throw away those Blue votes.

http://www.salon.com/2016/01/31/turning_texas_blue_3_trends_could_undo_the_20_years_of_republican_rule_texas_has_endured_since_the_days_of_ann_richards/

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2016_01/could_texas_turn_blue_within_t059316.php

[truthisfreedom]

17. No biggie, just a little treason.

Round 'em up and put 'em in irons.

[SwankyXomb]

40. A fair trial, followed by a decent hanging?

As is Texas tradition

[Gothmog]

18. The GOP convention starts tomorrow with guns and craziness

[tom_kelly]

19. We should all donate a bit of cash

to the Texas National Movement to get them over the hump and really get this done!

[turbinetree]

20. This is what happens when you have hate being taught and by elected twits in Texas-------

and spewed, by a person that said that LBJ had sex with his own grandmother----------------Texas has no vetting in the state------------------------none-----------------------

So by all means leave, don't let the proverbial door hit you in the ******s, and while its doing that if you vote to do this this little thing, all of your votes for senate, house and yes even the racist fascist called drumpf will be nullified since you did just voted
yourselves to leave this country called the United States, and by the way, we want all of our money, military hardware, everything back, education money, everything, airport improvement money, radar installations everything-----------you are on your own------------------see ya -------------------hee haw

And when your done, build a wall, because we the sane will have to see how your passports requirements work, because Louis Gohmert and the other elected officials that I can't put on this thread will have to have a back ground check performed, and they will be the first one(s) to be refused access to this side of the line, because need to check for ID's because we will not know how many idiots want to cross the border .................

[BumRushDaShow]

21. "The Texas Nationalist Movement...has added hundreds of members"

in a state with the 2nd largest population in the U.S.

[kentauros]

44. I noticed that, too!

Isn't it interesting how so few on this thread noticed that fact? I helped them out with the number of counties in the state further down as well

[FighttheFuture]

22. Another welfare queen taker state... what a joke. Of course, look at their Governor!!

[LW1977]

41. And their two previous ones

[FighttheFuture]

46. Ughhh.... yeah. Perry and Bush. Braindead and Brainfart.

[olddad56]

23. The people of the US can only hope that Texas is able to seceed.

if so, Dingy Donald's wall will have to be moved a little north is some parts.

[keithbvadu2]

24. Pay your share of the national debt on your way out.

[nini]

25. Let them go

The union will be better off without them.

[Attorney in Texas]

26. Rick Perry said Texas would thumb its nose at America if "Washington continues to thumb their nose

at the American people."

I am so sorry that we Texans delivered this moron to the public stage and sorrier still that you selfish bastards sent him back to Texas.

[Faux pas]

27. Let 'em gooooooooooo

after they let all the liberals free, of course.

[Hoppy]

28. Dear, Sweet Jesus, I know I made a lot of fun of you in the past, but if you let Texas seceed,

I promise you, not only no more jokes, but I will give back the money that my mom gave me for the collection basket that I bought candy with.

H











No, Agnes, its not sarcasm. I really will give the collection basket money back. It was about $20.00. I don't know about not making any more fun of Jesus, but I will give back the money. Still, if he is God, he should be able to make his own money out of thin air but this isn't about the money, its about Texas.

[Kip Humphrey]

29. Oh, don't forget the $47 billion oil industry subsidy most of which you will have to assume.

[tabasco]

30. Texas republicans hate us for our freedoms.

Just like al-qaeda.

[larkrake]

31. sounds delightful

the only sane folks there are women and the rare male

[Sunlei]

32. Begging for donations to pay for those 'work vacations' at Republican Parties & Conventions.

paypal & bitcoin accepted

[Feeling the Bern]

33. Bye! Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

[Dustlawyer]

34. I get tired of this crap. "...and they added hundreds of new members..." Over some

long assed period of time. They are still fringe! Many Texans are proud to have fought for their COUNTRY, not their state (exception, the Texas NATIONAL GUARD)! Perry is just some RW asshole like many Texas politician, saying inflammatory shite about whatever he thinks will connect with Bubba. Most Texans love America, are very proud to be an American, and would not even think of secession.

A few conservative oilmen might shut off the pump to the U.S. of A, for a whole day in the most extreme protest though!

[Joey Liberal]

36. Let Texas Secede

Move all of the military bases and the border patrol out. I work with an idiot from Texas that has a "Secede" bumper sticker on his vehicle. Let em go. Maybe we can throw in Oklahoma for good measure!

[Doctor_J]

42. Wtf is taking so long?

Cutting loose the red states would save quite a bit of money overall.

[kentauros]

43. "10 county GOP chapters"

out of 254 counties statewide. That's not even one-half of one percent.

Yeah, not gonna happen

[sofa king]

45. I would love to see that.

I doubt they can foresee an independent Texan future but I can... and it speaks Spanish....

[Yavin4]

47. Then the Dallas Cowboys will no longer be America's team

Win. Win.

[Nac Mac Feegle]

48. Is there any way

We can just deport these SECDEE!!!11!!! idiots to someplace like Somalia??

No laws, no government, a perfect Libertarian Paradise(tm).

Just see how long they'd last. Hell, put it on pay-per-view. It would be great comedy.

[TwilightZone]

49. It's all for show. The public doesn't want secession. Not that it'll stop stories like this.

Support is rarely any higher than 25%, roughly the same percentage that still supported Cheney at the end of his second term. You can get 25% of the public to vote for anything.

Much ado about nothing.

[apcalc]

52. Can we pick and choose

Which ones we want to stay?

[onecaliberal]

54. All the roads and infrastructure the tax payers own, they can stop using all that too.

[CanonRay]

59. Then there will never be another GOP President

In my mind they'really already gone

[yellowcanine]

62. Maybe they could hook up with Alaska and Caribou Barbie could be President

[TexasBushwhacker]

65. I seem to remember when several southern states

tried to secede from the union. It didn't turn out well for them.