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Kingofalldems

(38,441 posts)
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:39 PM May 2016

Clinton calls for making DC the 51st state, blasts Trump for no position on issue of voting rights

Source: Washington Post

Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton called for making the country's capital the country's 51st state on Wednesday, promising to be a "vocal champion" of DC statehood.

She blasted presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump for failing to say whether DC residents should have the same voting rights as other Americans.



Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/clinton-calls-for-making-dc-the-51st-state-blasts-trump-for-no-position-on-issue-of-voting-rights/2016/05/11/daa63d16-1781-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html?tid=sm_tw



Calling out the racist GOP and their leader---Donald Trump.

And as a DC native I support statehood 100%.
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Clinton calls for making DC the 51st state, blasts Trump for no position on issue of voting rights (Original Post) Kingofalldems May 2016 OP
Oh dear...this again? I support it, and all, but really? She's just pandering now. nt silvershadow May 2016 #1
Do you do this all day? Kingofalldems May 2016 #2
Sounds like it ronnykmarshall May 2016 #44
so you support it but when she supports it is pandering? nt msongs May 2016 #3
Yep. Exactly. Every time a politician needs to pull in a few more votes, here comes the issue. silvershadow May 2016 #4
So you are for it but if a politician even mentions it, Kingofalldems May 2016 #7
Well quiz me all you want. Not really sure that's the best use of your time, but hey- silvershadow May 2016 #9
Seems to me you would want 2 more Senators supporting Kingofalldems May 2016 #14
Mine is to oppose Sec. Clinton all the way to convention. nt silvershadow May 2016 #15
Odd you have nothing to say about racist Donald Trump. Kingofalldems May 2016 #31
I am completely ignoring general election candidates while we are in the midst of silvershadow May 2016 #33
It's only mentioned pmorlan1 May 2016 #29
You know, you might be right... beastie boy May 2016 #11
Thank you!! for pointing out that Bernie has been calling for this for years! Long before he silvershadow May 2016 #13
Oops. Kingofalldems May 2016 #16
Hey we can make a game of it...you post the earliest you can find her calling for this, silvershadow May 2016 #18
You said years. Link was from June 2015. Not even a year. Kingofalldems May 2016 #19
For year, not years. beastie boy May 2016 #20
For him it is a real issue. Also, he's been calling for this for literally years. nt silvershadow May 2016 #22
So was Bernie pandering? Kingofalldems May 2016 #21
No, he's been calling for this for literally years. nt silvershadow May 2016 #23
Years? Post the link where he called for it then? leftofcool May 2016 #42
New Columbia (DC) admission as 51st State... Raster May 2016 #52
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #25
This link will fix everything. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #28
Aww shucks. ^ Kingofalldems May 2016 #38
No that's just sounds coming out of your ass. ronnykmarshall May 2016 #45
You really can't help yourself can you? hrmjustin May 2016 #24
No. I oppose her, strenuously, all the way to convention. Thanks. nt silvershadow May 2016 #26
Is it okay if we oppose you right out the door after she wins the nomination? leftofcool May 2016 #43
I'll help clean up after. ronnykmarshall May 2016 #46
Remember the DC "Taxation Without Representation" license plates that were created in 2000? LisaM May 2016 #30
You don't want a place with a larger population than two states to have a voice? onehandle May 2016 #35
That'll get her far. elleng May 2016 #5
And she and her fanatics accuse Bernie of unrealistic "promises". BillZBubb May 2016 #6
She didn;t promise anything other than being a champion for the cause. Adrahil May 2016 #62
That was my point, Advil. BillZBubb May 2016 #63
Is D.C. another of her 'home states'? left-of-center2012 May 2016 #8
Well, she lived there for 8 years and worked there Arkansas Granny May 2016 #37
Five minutes longer than however long she was there.... TwilightZone May 2016 #49
Two more Democratic Senators? Yes, please. tinrobot May 2016 #10
You are correct. Which is why, of course, this will never happen under a Republican congress. silvershadow May 2016 #27
The DLC will always take more Democrats TwilightZone May 2016 #47
Maybe I'd move back! elleng May 2016 #53
All Democrats must blast from now until Election Day houston16revival May 2016 #12
High priorities, eh? TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #17
Many priorities -- as in, more than three issues on the table. Buzz Clik May 2016 #32
Yeah, statehood is high on everyone's list these days. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #34
It was four sentences at the end of an op-ed discussing voting rights and restrictions on them. NYC Liberal May 2016 #50
Instantly creating a Solid Blue State. onehandle May 2016 #36
So it's "unrealistic" when Sanders proposes to increase taxes on corporations and the ultra-wealthy Attorney in Texas May 2016 #39
No idea what you are talking about. Kingofalldems May 2016 #40
Promising to do something personally and calling for it to be done and acting as an advocate for it TwilightZone May 2016 #64
"Someone should do something about this." CanadaexPat May 2016 #41
If Bernie had proposed it .... ronnykmarshall May 2016 #48
The District of Columbia should be the State of Columbia. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #51
hmmm 8 years in the white house and now??? oldandhappy May 2016 #54
Would it be possible to separate the residential area from the seat of government. One_Life_To_Give May 2016 #55
That's been proposed before. Kingofalldems May 2016 #58
A version of that giving it back to Maryland has also been proposed. Xithras May 2016 #61
I wouldn't oppose this -nt Bradical79 May 2016 #56
Bernie Sanders is also for DC statehood and co-sponsored Eric J in MN May 2016 #57
I thought EdwardBernays May 2016 #59
Well one has to be first. Looks like a little nitpicking from here. Kingofalldems May 2016 #60
 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
4. Yep. Exactly. Every time a politician needs to pull in a few more votes, here comes the issue.
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:45 PM
May 2016

Trotted out again, on cue...I can almost hear the theme music in the background...

Kingofalldems

(38,441 posts)
7. So you are for it but if a politician even mentions it,
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:51 PM
May 2016

especially Hillary Clinton, it's pandering.

Reads like you are not really for it from here.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
9. Well quiz me all you want. Not really sure that's the best use of your time, but hey-
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:53 PM
May 2016

it is your time I just pointed out the obvious pandering. I can do it in other threads, when appropriate, if you think it would be better? Not sure you point in all this...

Kingofalldems

(38,441 posts)
14. Seems to me you would want 2 more Senators supporting
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:57 PM
May 2016

a Democratic agenda.

Speaking of points, I don't know what yours is either but have a hunch.

Mine was to post a news story about my home town and how the potential Democratic nominee favors statehood.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
33. I am completely ignoring general election candidates while we are in the midst of
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:24 PM
May 2016

an epic primary. It is a complete distraction.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
13. Thank you!! for pointing out that Bernie has been calling for this for years! Long before he
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:55 PM
May 2016

decided to run for President! See the difference, everyone?

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
18. Hey we can make a game of it...you post the earliest you can find her calling for this,
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:02 PM
May 2016

and I will do the same. Let's meet back up...say, a few hours from now? We can compare notes. I can't do it right now, because tracking her many actual investigations and scandals takes precedence...

beastie boy

(9,278 posts)
20. For year, not years.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:04 PM
May 2016

The pandering started two months after he announced his run.

Might not be a good idea to call attention to this.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
52. New Columbia (DC) admission as 51st State...
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:24 PM
May 2016
https://the51st.org/2012/10/24/15-friends-in-the-us-senate/

<snip>

In addition to the aforementioned Senators there is one Senator, Bernie Sanders (I-VT), who cosponsored the House Bill (H.R. 51) back in 1993 and voted for it and another seven present-day Senators (Richard Durbin (D-IL), Ben Cardin (D-MD), Robert Menendez (D-NJ), Charles Schumer (D-NY), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Ron Wyden (D-OR), & Maria Cantwell (D-WA)) who at the time voted for the statehood bill on the House floor.

Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #21)

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
30. Remember the DC "Taxation Without Representation" license plates that were created in 2000?
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

Bill Clinton liked them and had them put on the White House limousines. Bush had them taken off, of course. Obama eventually put them back on.

I don't know what Hillary's position was in 2000, but this seems like something both Clintons would agree on and I think it's fair to say that they were on board with the concept of DC getting more representation at least as early as 2000.

I'm pretty sure Bill got a laugh putting all those plates on knowing Bush would have to drive around in them at least at first!

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
35. You don't want a place with a larger population than two states to have a voice?
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:39 PM
May 2016

Is that because there are so many Democrats there?

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
6. And she and her fanatics accuse Bernie of unrealistic "promises".
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

Statehood for DC isn't going to happen for a long time. We'll have single payer health care before that happens.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
62. She didn;t promise anything other than being a champion for the cause.
Thu May 12, 2016, 01:05 PM
May 2016

Bernie supports this position too, by the way.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
63. That was my point, Advil.
Thu May 12, 2016, 01:47 PM
May 2016

Bernie's promise is to fight night and day for his agenda. He isn't making any promises on free tuition and single payer healthcare. Yet the Hillary fanatics claim he is unrealistic, naïve, and a dreamer because he can't immediately keep his "promises".

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
27. You are correct. Which is why, of course, this will never happen under a Republican congress.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:15 PM
May 2016

Or even a DLC-heavy one, for that matter.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
32. Many priorities -- as in, more than three issues on the table.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

Sanders can only talk about one thing at a time, but others are quite capable of handling more.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
34. Yeah, statehood is high on everyone's list these days.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:32 PM
May 2016

Of course scarfing up a few votes along the way isn't all bad, either.

She is the ultimate politician.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
50. It was four sentences at the end of an op-ed discussing voting rights and restrictions on them.
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:12 PM
May 2016

Here's the main portion of her op-ed:

Ever since the Supreme Court struck down a key provision of the Voting Rights Act in 2013, many states that used to face special scrutiny because of their history of racial discrimination have passed new voting restrictions. In the last three years, 17 states have made voting more difficult by requiring proof of citizenship, ending same-day registration and restricting early and mail-in ballots.

One of the worst offenders is North Carolina, where Republican Gov. Pat McCrory signed a bill that does all this and more. It even includes a harsh new voter photo ID requirement. That only serves to create another unnecessary obstacle for low-income voters and communities of color to have their voices heard.

Make no mistake: These kinds of restrictions don’t come about by accident. They’re a blast from the Jim Crow past, and it’s just one of many other examples of a sustained effort to disenfranchise communities of color across the country.

I believe that we should be making it easier to vote — not harder. And there are several steps we should take immediately to restore trust in our democracy.

First, I believe Congress must move quickly to pass legislation to restore the full protections of the Voting Rights Act that American voters need and deserve.

Second, we should implement the recommendations of the bipartisan presidential commission to improve voting. These are commonsense reforms – agreed upon by lawyers from the Obama and Romney campaigns – that include expanding early, absentee, and mail voting, and ensuring no one has to wait more than 30 minutes to cast their ballot.

Third, we should set a new national standard of at least 20 days of early in-person voting everywhere – including on weekends and evenings. Early voting isn’t just convenient; it’s also more secure, more reliable and more affordable than absentee voting.

And finally I’m calling for universal, automatic voter registration. I believe the ability to vote should be our society’s default setting. That means every citizen should be automatically registered to vote when they turn 18 unless they actively choose to opt out.


And here's the very end where she mentions DC:

But enfranchisement isn’t solely a matter of individual rights. In the case of our nation’s capital, we have an entire populace that is routinely denied a voice in its own democracy.

Washington, D.C., is home to nearly 700,000 Americans – more than the entire population of several states. Washingtonians serve in the military, serve on juries and pay taxes just like everyone else. And yet they don’t even have a vote in Congress.


But, hey, voting and disenfranchisement shouldn't be a priority.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
39. So it's "unrealistic" when Sanders proposes to increase taxes on corporations and the ultra-wealthy
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:54 PM
May 2016

in order to fund improved access to health care, but Hillary's promise to make a new state is totally realistic and not pandering.

Gotcha.

TwilightZone

(25,454 posts)
64. Promising to do something personally and calling for it to be done and acting as an advocate for it
Thu May 12, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

are two completely different things.

This isn't difficult.

ronnykmarshall

(35,356 posts)
48. If Bernie had proposed it ....
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:42 PM
May 2016

there would be a fucking parade thrown. Or maybe a photo shop of a concert in Russia claiming to be Bernie supporters taking to the streets.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
55. Would it be possible to separate the residential area from the seat of government.
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:36 PM
May 2016

That is to have Capital Hill and the WhiteHouse still be in a Stateless Federal District. But establish a State for the residents?

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
61. A version of that giving it back to Maryland has also been proposed.
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:47 PM
May 2016

The proposal was to carve out a small portion for the federal district and give the rest to Maryland, coupled with an increase to the size of the House to compensate.

I've gone back and forth on DC as a state, personally. While I like the possibility of having two more liberals in the Senate, there's something slightly offensive about giving one relatively small east coast city the same number of Senators as the entire state of California. Why should DC get something that New York or Los Angeles have no right to, when those cities are inarguably FAR more important to the nations economy, culture and political scene?

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