'This is America' air traveler says guilty of yanking Muslim's scarf
Source: Reuters
'This is America' air traveler says guilty of yanking Muslim's scarf
By Eric M. Johnson
May 13, 2016
(Reuters) - A North Carolina man admitted on Friday that he ripped off a Muslim woman's head scarf during a flight to New Mexico last December after saying, "Take it off! This is America!"
Gill Payne, 37, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in New Mexico to one count of using force to intentionally obstruct the woman from freely exercising her religious beliefs, prosecutors said.
"No matter one's faith, all Americans are entitled to peacefully exercise their religious beliefs free from discrimination and violence," said Vanita Gupta, head of the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division.
An attorney for Payne said by e-mail: "Mr. Payne has taken responsibility for his actions and is sorry for them. He is ready to begin the healing process and move forward."
Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/america-air-traveler-says-guilty-yanking-muslims-scarf-212458000.html?nhp=1
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SheilaT
(23,156 posts)He needs some sort of commensurate punishment, like, I don't know, being forced to be in public without any clothes, something like that.
I happen to think that the scarf-wearing is not entirely voluntary, despite so many claims that it is, but even so, if that's what a woman says she wants to wear, then NO ONE has any right to pull off her scarf. Period.
cynzke
(1,254 posts)Having to scrub floors and toilets in a Mosque for a year!
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)While there are various things I don't personally agree with, like the headscarves, I try very hard to understand that others have a very different take on this, and that I need to respect their positions.
Even if I'm not crazy about the entire headscarf thing, I would NEVER pull one off. I once engaged a woman wearing a headscarf in a conversation about being more fashion forward, as in matching the headscarf to the rest of her clothing, but it was NOT in an attitude of "you shouldn't be wearing a headscarf" but in a woman-to-woman conversation about fashion.
In any case, regardless of how I feel about a headscarf, or how anyone else feels about them, it is up to the women who decide to wear them to set the standard.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)still a form of assault for this guy to be invading the personal space of another and grabbing at their clothing, hair, or body. There is no justification for it - period, end of story.
Perhaps Im quibbling over language - but yall are qualifying your support for her with "if" statements - eg "IF that's what a woman wants to wear"
Mister Ed
(5,930 posts)I believe this assault would have left this woman feeling as violated and exposed as most other women would feel if a stranger yanked up their skirts, or pulled down their tops in public.
For the record, you can count me among those who worry inwardly that the required headscarf may be a way of shaming and subjugating women. And, just as you say: my inward feelings on that subject are absolutely irrelevant in this matter.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)geez.
Ford_Prefect
(7,895 posts)HuskiesHowls
(711 posts)His knuckles would probably STILL be hurting!!!
moriah
(8,311 posts)Person 2713
(3,263 posts)They will step out of a nuns way not grab her head and yell in her ear
Yet it is suppose to all about the garb which is the same with formal strict and modern versions in both religions
Oh and no concern on a nuns choice to wear it either
Gumboot
(531 posts)... He should spend his time knocking these off the heads of his fellow runts.
Socal31
(2,484 posts)I expect much more journalistic integrity.
The real quote was "This is Murikkkka!"
BumRushDaShow
(128,905 posts)when many many "American" women wore scarves tied under the chin and men wore fedoras...and God forbid you didn't walk into a Catholic Church (and other denominations) without a head covering of some kind. Guess he'd go after some nuns too.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)Hey iam old enough to remember Catholics not so liked but never like the islamphobia of today
It really is scary
But yes heaven forbid you not have a head covering
The nuns would walk down the aisles and slap them on your head plop like mm you forgot your veil or scarf
Too many people today are very sick and paranoid
jpak
(41,757 posts)yup
13Dogs
(45 posts)The sad part is that Trump is empowering these fools to come out of the woodwork. Granted it doesn't take much encouragement for ignorant, racist (sorry that's redundant) people to show their true selves, which they've had to hide because of that damn political correctness.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)Someone should yank on his orange prison issued undies and give him a good wedgie he wont forget.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,339 posts)... if someone ripped the NASCAR cap off his head and said, "This is America, don't wear a hat in a restaurant".
I would do no such thing, but my grandmother ...
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,453 posts)Paladin
(28,254 posts)He looks like most of the guys at any given Trump rally. The Smart People have to save the nation from all the Stupid People this election, more so now than ever before.
TonyPDX
(962 posts)rockfordfile
(8,702 posts)Loki
(3,825 posts)did anyone on that flight stand up for that woman? I wish I'd been there. Mr. ButtHead redneck would be using the sit-down urinal for a long time.
Coventina
(27,115 posts)By physically assaulting her!
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)windy days. To think people would now believe her to be a Muslim is now three hoots.
Warpy
(111,254 posts)the right to touch any woman he does not know and especially to rip items of clothing off her body?
Asshole.
He's a prime example of why I fled NC for Boston as soon as I'd saved enough money to get there. Now he's going to spend time in the can here in NM. Ugh.
At least this state takes a dim view of cults and the religious bullies they produce.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)louis-t
(23,292 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Needs to make a sincere apology to the woman.
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)Stupid fuckwad! This kind of thing makes me angry.
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)May 14, 2016 4:37 PM
NC man pleads guilty to pulling off Muslim womans hijab during flight
Highlights
By Anne Blythe
ablythe@newsobserver.com
A 37-year-old man from Gastonia pleaded guilty on Friday in New Mexico federal court to using force or threat of force to intentionally obstruct a Muslim woman in the free exercise of her religious beliefs.
Gill Parker Payne, who is awaiting sentencing, was on a Southwest Airlines flight on Dec. 11, when, according to court documents, he confronted a woman wearing a hijab.
Payne had been sitting several rows behind the woman, identified only as K.A., on the flight from Chicago to Albuquerque and did not know her.
During the flight, according to a release from the U.S. Justice Department, Payne stopped in the aisle next to her seat and pulled at the head scarf that Muslim women wear as part of their religious practice. Take it off! This is America! federal prosecutors contend Payne said.
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article77672737.html#storylink=cpy