Sat May 14, 2016, 10:55 AM

kadaholo (296 posts)

Baltimore’s Election Results Are Decertified as State Investigation Is Launched

Source: Truthdig by Emma Niles

Although Baltimore’s primary was held weeks ago, Maryland’s Board of Elections announced Thursday that it was rescinding certification of the election results. The Baltimore Sun reports:

Linda H. Lamone, the administrator of the State Board of Elections, said officials became concerned when city officials found 80 provisional ballots that had not been analyzed, and an unusually high discrepancy between the number of voters who checked in at polling places and the number of ballots cast. The number of ballots cast at the polls was higher than the number of check-ins at the polls, she said.

Lamone said state officials were working to determine the exact size of the problem. She expected the investigation to stretch into next week. “Baltimore City was not able to investigate and resolve these issues to our satisfaction,” Lamone said. “We are doing a precinct-level review. We are doing this in fairness to the candidates and the voters.”

Baltimore’s news comes at a time when voters around the country are alleging election fraud, and activists within the city have been voicing concerns about the election for months. “Eight data files went missing for about a day after the election, and some polling precincts opened late,” The Baltimore Sun reports, adding that “thirty-four released felons—eligible to vote under a new law—also received a Board of Elections letter before the election erroneously telling them they might not be able to vote.”

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Baltimore’s Election Results Are Decertified as State Investigation Is Launched (Original post)	kadaholo	May 2016	OP
Why are other countries so much better at conducting elections than we are?	Human101948	May 2016	#1
We need to start using purple ink on our thumbs.	Akicita	May 2016	#4
although they can trace one's prints	PatrynXX	May 2016	#11
Restroom fraud -- similarly not a problem until Republicans mucked it up with useless laws. . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	May 2016	#21
I agree. Low tech, 100% effective. Do it like they do in Africa: dip it into an ink bottle.	marble falls	May 2016	#31
Because we are a much larger country with 50 states with different standards. n/t	pnwmom	May 2016	#7
Not an excuse	LiberalLovinLug	May 2016	#48
Does Canada have 50 provinces now? Somehow I missed that.	pnwmom	May 2016	#61
This is an empty argument	Bangbangdem	May 2016	#71
It isn't an argument. I'm not justifying it. I'm pointing to its factual existence.	pnwmom	May 2016	#72
Copy that	Bangbangdem	May 2016	#95
Thats not a good reason then	LiberalLovinLug	May 2016	#94
We haven't examined our election process for a very long time, the others have.	apnu	May 2016	#35
Because we're an oligarchy with elections that don't mean anything. nt	valerief	May 2016	#45
Nail meet hammer.	Volaris	May 2016	#70
Sweden has the population of Michigan	yeoman6987	May 2016	#77
How can we accurately count the trillions of dollars spent each day	randr	May 2016	#90
republicans are going to be doing this kind of shit all over the country	certainot	May 2016	#2
Because noting screams "republican" like Baltimore.	Igel	May 2016	#8
I've worked at the polls in West Virginia for several years	Boomer	May 2016	#91
Republicans are doing this all over the country, and why you may ask.	L. Coyote	May 2016	#24
^this^ and that includes the Republicans with a D behind their name. eom	Betty Karlson	May 2016	#78
In 2009, Democrats in DC had an opportunity to protect our elections and voting rights.	Scuba	May 2016	#80
In 2010 and 2014 Democrats had an opportunity to vote in elections and they mostly passed.	L. Coyote	May 2016	#83
Maybe they were denied the right to vote because Dems didn't act in 2009.	Scuba	May 2016	#84
"It's up to politicians to give voters a reason to go to the polls." is bullshit.	L. Coyote	May 2016	#85
No, it's not bullshit.	Scuba	May 2016	#86
So, you are here to demean our political party.	L. Coyote	May 2016	#87
No, I'm here to help improve it.	Scuba	May 2016	#92
Politicians today do not need to worry	Thespian2	May 2016	#3
I just recently found out that elections have been rigged since the	FlatBaroque	May 2016	#5
Long before that. Back in the 1800's the ballot boxes used to get lost on the way to the	LiberalArkie	May 2016	#12
No doubt. I was writing within the context of electronic voting.	FlatBaroque	May 2016	#15
The electronic machines just moved the dishonesty to a different format. Honest	LiberalArkie	May 2016	#16
When the hell are we going to go back to paper ballots?	SmittynMo	May 2016	#6
Maryland went back to paper ballots starting with this election	Orangepeel	May 2016	#18
That is why they found that there was a problem.	JDPriestly	May 2016	#57
Precisely.	Enthusiast	May 2016	#59
Paper ballots	dynamo99	May 2016	#19
That is how Maryland does it now.	yellowcanine	May 2016	#47
for 2000 elections the radio stations were screaming hanging chads!!	certainot	May 2016	#49
Most of the time those who had hanging chads or dimpled ballots never knew.	Igel	May 2016	#58
"make people sign the paper." No more secret ballots?	FrodosPet	May 2016	#67
Is it REALLY secret?	SmittynMo	May 2016	#68
Election theft in the U.S. is real.	smiley	May 2016	#9
So says you.	L. Coyote	May 2016	#25
NY alone, had a 12 pt. deviation from exit polling, where more than 2 is fraud, by U.S. standards.	ViseGrip	May 2016	#30
You are wrong.	L. Coyote	May 2016	#36
The point is there is no way of knowing in far too many places.	stillwaiting	May 2016	#50
Then say that.	L. Coyote	May 2016	#51
I did say that. nt	stillwaiting	May 2016	#53
Thank you!	7962	May 2016	#37
Thread Winner!	Dont call me Shirley	May 2016	#66
HUGE! So...all the 'intel alphas' in that city CIA, DEA, etc.,thought they could get away with this?	ViseGrip	May 2016	#10
Good Grief!	blondie58	May 2016	#13
They are working it	-none	May 2016	#20
Worse! We send our military to countries with anything over 2pts in exit polling deviation.	ViseGrip	May 2016	#32
KICK TO PUT THE SPOTLIGHT RIGHT HERE.....	ViseGrip	May 2016	#14
I wonder if counting the provisional ballots (when they should have been scrutinized first)-	Rosa Luxemburg	May 2016	#17
Does Bernie have moobs in your gif?	cui bono	May 2016	#55
LOL!	Rosa Luxemburg	May 2016	#76
Provisional ballots are a nightmare.	Igel	May 2016	#56
Is Baltimore primarily a Republican voting city?	jalan48	May 2016	#22
No. It is a 2/3 black city. Republicans favor stealing black votes, part of the racism.	L. Coyote	May 2016	#26
So who was stealing from who in Baltimore?	jalan48	May 2016	#28
No one.	L. Coyote	May 2016	#39
Interesting.	jalan48	May 2016	#43
You're trying really hard to put Baltimore's trouble on the GOP. Its silly.	7962	May 2016	#40
You're trying really hard to say the Dems are rigging the primaries and "screwing things up"	L. Coyote	May 2016	#42
Boom. Nailed it.	Kingofalldems	May 2016	#54
"treasonous"? What a load. Who are you, Alex Jones?	7962	May 2016	#73
This Has Been A VERY VERY Disgusting Issue In This Country!	ChiciB1	May 2016	#23
Dirty tricks and propaganda combined, part of the new front in voter suppression.	L. Coyote	May 2016	#29
Do you predict the investigation will conclude "dirty tricks" were used?	Bacum	May 2016	#33
No.	L. Coyote	May 2016	#38
Truthdig, a pro-Sanders outlet, did not include this part of the article	Bacum	May 2016	#27
I seem to remember that, I think it was Florida, a poll worker was	libdem4life	May 2016	#34
"seem to remember" Well, that settles it, all elections are rigged then	L. Coyote	May 2016	#41
Oh, give it a rest. It wasn't even partisan. And cheap shots don't become	libdem4life	May 2016	#44
Thank you libdem	saidsimplesimon	May 2016	#46
Thanks...that is one of my very favorite songs. Pure talent.	libdem4life	May 2016	#60
Pay no attention to the rudeness. THIS may be what you remember:	7962	May 2016	#74
Yeah, that's the one. Thanks.	libdem4life	May 2016	#93
Paper ballots will not fix the problem. Election Fraud is a political tradition. See the link.	Agnosticsherbet	May 2016	#52
No, but it's better than not having paper ballots	Orangepeel	May 2016	#63
It is who counts the votes that matters.	Agnosticsherbet	May 2016	#64
This entire primary process has been a joke	TBF	May 2016	#62
See post #42. Apparently you & I are now "traitors".	7962	May 2016	#75
I painted strike signs with my dad when I was a little kid -	TBF	May 2016	#82
Pretty good way to put it. So I guess youve seen the videos from Nevada?	7962	May 2016	#88
I was pretty busy on Twitter last night	TBF	May 2016	#89
This message was self-deleted by its author	JEB	May 2016	#65
Millions of votes minus millions of votes	Kittycat	May 2016	#69
k n r	cui bono	May 2016	#79
So, precincts opening late and getting the math wrong?	MrMickeysMom	May 2016	#81

Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 11:04 AM

Human101948 (3,457 posts)

1. Why are other countries so much better at conducting elections than we are?

Other democracies are not so incompetent. Both Sweden and Australia, for example, manage to get more than 96 percent of their citizens on the books. The Swedes pull this off through virtually automatic enrollment. Instead of relying on its shiftless inhabitants (accustomed to luxuries like universal health care) to get their paperwork in order, the Swedes maintain a national database that includes the name, address, place of birth, and marital status of each individual. The Swedish Tax Administration is responsible for updates, but the police and the municipalities help provide details. (Individuals pitch in by informing the local tax office of alterations—like marriages, divorces, or a change of address.) Prior to every election, the Swedish Electoral Authority simply extracts information from this database to compile an electoral roll for each district. The Electoral Authority then sends proof of registration to each eligible voter, which contains the address of the correct polling station and its hours.

Australia's system is closer to ours. Individual Aussies must fill out their own registration forms and wait for an acknowledgment card. However, as in Sweden, a centralized authority maintains a single national registration database, which the states and territories use to compile local election rolls. And since voting is compulsory (there's a $20 penalty for those without a good excuse), the government feels it has a responsibility to help out with the process. It does this by getting in your face.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/how_they_do_it/2008/10/doing_democracy_right.html

Baltimore’s Election Results Are Decertified as State Investigation Is Launched

1. Why are other countries so much better at conducting elections than we are?

4. We need to start using purple ink on our thumbs.

11. although they can trace one's prints

21. Restroom fraud -- similarly not a problem until Republicans mucked it up with useless laws. . . nt

31. I agree. Low tech, 100% effective. Do it like they do in Africa: dip it into an ink bottle.

7. Because we are a much larger country with 50 states with different standards. n/t

48. Not an excuse

61. Does Canada have 50 provinces now? Somehow I missed that.

71. This is an empty argument

72. It isn't an argument. I'm not justifying it. I'm pointing to its factual existence.

95. Copy that

94. Thats not a good reason then

35. We haven't examined our election process for a very long time, the others have.

45. Because we're an oligarchy with elections that don't mean anything. nt

70. Nail meet hammer.

77. Sweden has the population of Michigan

90. How can we accurately count the trillions of dollars spent each day

2. republicans are going to be doing this kind of shit all over the country

8. Because noting screams "republican" like Baltimore.

91. I've worked at the polls in West Virginia for several years

24. Republicans are doing this all over the country, and why you may ask.

78. ^this^ and that includes the Republicans with a D behind their name. eom

80. In 2009, Democrats in DC had an opportunity to protect our elections and voting rights.

83. In 2010 and 2014 Democrats had an opportunity to vote in elections and they mostly passed.

84. Maybe they were denied the right to vote because Dems didn't act in 2009.

85. "It's up to politicians to give voters a reason to go to the polls." is bullshit.

86. No, it's not bullshit.

87. So, you are here to demean our political party.

92. No, I'm here to help improve it.

3. Politicians today do not need to worry

5. I just recently found out that elections have been rigged since the

12. Long before that. Back in the 1800's the ballot boxes used to get lost on the way to the

15. No doubt. I was writing within the context of electronic voting.

16. The electronic machines just moved the dishonesty to a different format. Honest

6. When the hell are we going to go back to paper ballots?

18. Maryland went back to paper ballots starting with this election

57. That is why they found that there was a problem.

59. Precisely.

19. Paper ballots

47. That is how Maryland does it now.

49. for 2000 elections the radio stations were screaming hanging chads!!

58. Most of the time those who had hanging chads or dimpled ballots never knew.

67. "make people sign the paper." No more secret ballots?

68. Is it REALLY secret?

9. Election theft in the U.S. is real.

25. So says you.

30. NY alone, had a 12 pt. deviation from exit polling, where more than 2 is fraud, by U.S. standards.

36. You are wrong.

50. The point is there is no way of knowing in far too many places.

51. Then say that.

53. I did say that. nt

37. Thank you!

66. Thread Winner!

10. HUGE! So...all the 'intel alphas' in that city CIA, DEA, etc.,thought they could get away with this?

13. Good Grief!

20. They are working it

32. Worse! We send our military to countries with anything over 2pts in exit polling deviation.

14. KICK TO PUT THE SPOTLIGHT RIGHT HERE.....

17. I wonder if counting the provisional ballots (when they should have been scrutinized first)-

55. Does Bernie have moobs in your gif?

76. LOL!

56. Provisional ballots are a nightmare.

22. Is Baltimore primarily a Republican voting city?

26. No. It is a 2/3 black city. Republicans favor stealing black votes, part of the racism.

28. So who was stealing from who in Baltimore?

39. No one.

43. Interesting.

40. You're trying really hard to put Baltimore's trouble on the GOP. Its silly.

42. You're trying really hard to say the Dems are rigging the primaries and "screwing things up"

54. Boom. Nailed it.

73. "treasonous"? What a load. Who are you, Alex Jones?

23. This Has Been A VERY VERY Disgusting Issue In This Country!

29. Dirty tricks and propaganda combined, part of the new front in voter suppression.

33. Do you predict the investigation will conclude "dirty tricks" were used?

38. No.

27. Truthdig, a pro-Sanders outlet, did not include this part of the article

34. I seem to remember that, I think it was Florida, a poll worker was

41. "seem to remember" Well, that settles it, all elections are rigged then

44. Oh, give it a rest. It wasn't even partisan. And cheap shots don't become