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MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:39 PM May 2016

Netanyahu lashes out at Iran for 'mocking' Holocaust in cartoon contest

Source: The Guardian

Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu lashed out at Iran Sunday for staging a Holocaust-themed cartoon contest that mocked the Nazi genocide of six million Jews during the second world war. The Islamic Republic was busy planning for another one, he said.

A State Department spokesman, traveling with Secretary of State John Kerry in Saudi Arabia, expressed US concern about the contest, saying it should be “condemned by the authorities and civil society leaders rather than encouraged”.

Iran has long backed armed groups committed to Israel’s destruction and its leaders have called for it to be wiped off the map. Israel fears that Iran’s nuclear program is designed to threaten its very existence.


Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/15/netanyahu-iran-cartoon-contest-mocks-holocaust

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Netanyahu lashes out at Iran for 'mocking' Holocaust in cartoon contest (Original Post) MariaThinks May 2016 OP
Iran did it in response to cartoons mocking Allah. Netanyahu didn't object then. BillZBubb May 2016 #1
The extermination of six million people... iandhr May 2016 #2
thanks for pointing that out for the terrorist apologists MariaThinks May 2016 #3
Muslims have killed more people over cartoons skepticscott May 2016 #6
agreed and telling MariaThinks May 2016 #7
+1 romanic May 2016 #11
some youceyec May 2016 #8
nice escalation there. So you're saying all think exactly like that? MariaThinks May 2016 #9
Perhaps you can point leftynyc May 2016 #19
Cartoon is cartoon. Redwoods Red May 2016 #17
The big difference is iandhr May 2016 #20
You don't see anyone here leftynyc May 2016 #34
Not to you. But, just maybe to Muslims it does. BillZBubb May 2016 #21
Let's compare how leftynyc May 2016 #18
To them mocking Allah is the ultimate evil. To you it is something else. BillZBubb May 2016 #22
And still leftynyc May 2016 #25
Iran's leader also leads chants of Death to Israel 6chars May 2016 #27
The really dangerous part of this Iranian stupidity sulphurdunn May 2016 #4
Why can't Israel just return to its borders StoneCarver May 2016 #5
Amen McKim May 2016 #10
If only the Palestinians leftynyc May 2016 #35
What the hell does this have to do with Iran's Holocaust denial? DavidDvorkin May 2016 #13
The armistice line was peaceful for Israel before 1967 6chars May 2016 #28
Isn't it amazing?! Behind the Aegis May 2016 #12
Mocking the Holocaust is disgusting and outrageous. BillZBubb May 2016 #24
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Behind the Aegis May 2016 #26
I give a lot of shit about what Netanyahu should have done. BillZBubb May 2016 #29
Of course you do. Behind the Aegis May 2016 #31
Well gosh aren't you smart! Netanyahu was named in the OP. BillZBubb May 2016 #33
"plays a part" Behind the Aegis May 2016 #36
what is this about mocking Allah? 6chars May 2016 #30
I don't agree with Netanyahu a lot of the time, but on this he's 100% correct. Archae May 2016 #14
if Iran was making threats of extermination, Angel Martin May 2016 #15
Nonsense. BillZBubb May 2016 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #16
Is this your response to his not liking the cartoon contest? 6chars May 2016 #32
How predictable leftynyc May 2016 #37

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
1. Iran did it in response to cartoons mocking Allah. Netanyahu didn't object then.
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

There are loons on both sides of this behavior.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
2. The extermination of six million people...
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:36 PM
May 2016

... doesn't compare to a cartoon making fun of religion.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
3. thanks for pointing that out for the terrorist apologists
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:57 PM
May 2016

6 million people killed.

cartoon.

how can anyone equate the two?

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
6. Muslims have killed more people over cartoons
Sun May 15, 2016, 09:08 PM
May 2016

that offend their religious sensibilities than Jews will kill people over this contest. Which should tell people something about religion, and about Islam in general.

 

youceyec

(394 posts)
8. some
Sun May 15, 2016, 09:09 PM
May 2016

might argue with your assertion that the prophet Muhammad was a terrorist. Actually, I have 1.5 Billion friends that would.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
9. nice escalation there. So you're saying all think exactly like that?
Sun May 15, 2016, 09:31 PM
May 2016

1. only Islam is the true religion.
2. gay people should be killed
3. people leaving islam should be killed
4. adulterers should be stoned to death.

are these the beliefs of 1.5 billion of your friends.
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
19. Perhaps you can point
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

out where the poster called muhammad a terrorist. It sure wasn't in the post you were responding to.

 

Redwoods Red

(137 posts)
17. Cartoon is cartoon.
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:22 PM
May 2016

No Iranian cartoon killed six million people.

Isn't it odd that a cartoon that offends Muslims must be defended, but one that offends Jews must be decried.

It's like "freedom to offend for me, but not for thee."

I think both sets of cartoons are pretty damned tacky and I wish people wouldn't do that, but some of these people are their high horses are being hypocritical.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
20. The big difference is
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:40 PM
May 2016

When someone draws a cartoon that offend Muslims people are murdered. That doesn't happen with anyone else.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
34. You don't see anyone here
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016

saying either cartoon is okay - that's quite simply a LIE. What we are pointing out is that only one side feels justified in KILLING the cartoonist for being insulting. I know that's an inconvenient fact but it's time to suck it up because it's the truth.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
18. Let's compare how
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:31 PM
May 2016

many people Muslims have killed because of a fucking cartoon versus Jews who have killed because of a holocaust denying cartoon. There is no comparison and shame on you for trying to create one.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
22. To them mocking Allah is the ultimate evil. To you it is something else.
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:44 PM
May 2016

That's the reason the Iranians chose the Holocaust--to make that point.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
25. And still
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:04 PM
May 2016

NOBODY is killed for mocking the holocaust. You're making my point for me but don't seem to realize it and the Iranians are only proving that being insulted isn't a cause to kill someone - not what they were expecting.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
27. Iran's leader also leads chants of Death to Israel
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:12 PM
May 2016

and they are always talking about annihilating Israel and actually write that on their new intercontinental missiles we are funding. and they fund continually terrorists to kill Jews etc. So at least they put their money where their mouth is.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
4. The really dangerous part of this Iranian stupidity
Sun May 15, 2016, 08:49 PM
May 2016

is that such use of the Holocaust gives the Israelis cover in their oppression of the Palestinians and aides the American Israeli lobby with further pretext to become even more hyperbolic and hysterical in its attempt to push the US into war with Iran.

 

StoneCarver

(249 posts)
5. Why can't Israel just return to its borders
Sun May 15, 2016, 08:53 PM
May 2016

And the US just stand behind Israel? For Gods sake we both have nuclear weapons! There is no chance Israel will disappear In the next 50 years.
Stonecarver

McKim

(2,412 posts)
10. Amen
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:09 PM
May 2016

Amen to that. If only Israel and its supporters in the US would spend their energy solving the problems in Israel and helping the Palestinians, instead of spending all that money, time and energy justifying their oppression of their neighbors, oppressing and bombing their neighbors and blaming and name calling against anyone who defends the Palestinians, we would all be better off!

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
35. If only the Palestinians
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016

would prove they have any interest whatsoever in peace, you would have a point. Given what happened when they were given a state in 1947 (war) and when they unilaterally pulled out of Gaza (more violence), you don't have a leg to stand on in whining about Israel not trusting the Palestinians. You know when we'd all be better off? When Palestinians denounce violence and sit down with the Israeli's to hammer out an agreement (that they should have accepted 68 years ago).

6chars

(3,967 posts)
28. The armistice line was peaceful for Israel before 1967
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:14 PM
May 2016

(The Arabs refused to recognize them as borders, though)

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
12. Isn't it amazing?!
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:22 AM
May 2016

An OP about a Holocaust "cartoon" contest devolves into finger-wagging and tut-tuts for Israel, but mocking the Holocaust, not so much. This is a prime example of how anti-Semitism and "criticism" of Israel get conflated, but doesn't get confronted because it isn't Jews doing the conflating.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
24. Mocking the Holocaust is disgusting and outrageous.
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:55 PM
May 2016

I certainly don't like what Iran has done. But, take off your pro-Israeli blinders and maybe you can see that's why they did it. Muslims consider cartoons mocking Allah in the same light. How better to retaliate than to choose something the West considers appalling? Israel was not the target of this stunt although the subject matter rightly disturbs them the most.

Netanyahu is a boob. He should have been in the forefront of those denouncing the mocking of Allah. That would have been good for Israel. And then he'd have some grounds to complain about this.

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
26. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

This has NOTHING to do with "pro-Israeli blinders", that would be your department, except not the "pro" part. How about they "mock" Apartheid? Slavery? Freedoms of the Press? You know, offenses to or Western values. No, the Holocaust is chosen for a very specific reason and if you think it is because they consider depictions of Mohammad (not Allah) equal to the Holocaust in terms of "mockery", then the issue lies with them and their defenders, and I am not talking about the 'general' ones, those like me who defend the right to do it, but those who find "parallels."

Who gives a shit what Netanyahu should have done. I can guarantee, had he done what you said, he still would have been pilloried, so what would be the point? I find this contest to be actually disgusting, not because it is PC or because it "scores" points as being something I am not.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
29. I give a lot of shit about what Netanyahu should have done.
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:16 PM
May 2016

Israel's overall situation would be far better if the Likud and fools like him never existed.

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
31. Of course you do.
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:17 PM
May 2016

That was the point of my original post. That is the primary concern for those like you, not the actual mockery of the Holocaust.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
30. what is this about mocking Allah?
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:17 PM
May 2016

do you mean mocking Muhammed? I don't think they are the same person.

Archae

(46,318 posts)
14. I don't agree with Netanyahu a lot of the time, but on this he's 100% correct.
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:19 AM
May 2016

This is just one of the stupid "cartoons" being shown in Iran:

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
15. if Iran was making threats of extermination,
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:14 AM
May 2016

and joking about it, against some leftist darling country...

all those on this board who mock the danger of a nuclear Iran would be screaming for instant war

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
23. Nonsense.
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:46 PM
May 2016

Most people on this board wouldn't scream for war in any situation short of a direct attack on the US. And even then, with reservations.

Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
37. How predictable
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:47 PM
May 2016

that so many of you ignore this repulsive contest and put the onus on the leader of Israel. Pathetically predictable for the far left. Thankfully the vast majority of Americans AND Democrats know better.

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